• Re: Great Pianists - Characteristic Performances - Your Turn

    From Herman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 28 19:38:15 2023
    On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 4:30:31 AM UTC+1, Notsure01 wrote:

    (2) The thread "Characteristic Recordings - Celibidache et. al." has
    been going since October!! (Yes,I know..)

    it's basically a solitary confinement thread.
    gggg has got a couple of those too.

    I'm guessing Kissin was too young to be accorded a GPOC?

    Did Zoltan Kocsis have one?

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  • From Notsure01@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 28 22:30:25 2023
    As the proud originator(1) of the longest running thread on RMCR(2), and inspired by the current thread about the GPOC, I thought it might be interesting to find out what folks here would choose for an imaginary
    "Great Recordings" volume of a favorite pianist.

    For those familiar with the term, we could have a "Fantasy Baseball" of
    music, or a "Virtual Competition", but with no strict rules about who to include or how many works. (Except we might want to avoid personal
    insults(3))

    (1) I should probably insert a smiley
    (2) The thread "Characteristic Recordings - Celibidache et. al." has
    been going since October!! (Yes,I know..)
    (3) Here is something Einstein might have said: "You Never Fail Until
    You Stop Trying"

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  • From Notsure01@21:1/5 to Herman on Tue Feb 28 23:34:57 2023
    On 2/28/23 10:38 PM, Herman wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 4:30:31 AM UTC+1, Notsure01 wrote:

    (2) The thread "Characteristic Recordings - Celibidache et. al." has
    been going since October!! (Yes,I know..)

    it's basically a solitary confinement thread.
    gggg has got a couple of those too.

    I'm guessing Kissin was too young to be accorded a GPOC?

    Did Zoltan Kocsis have one?

    Sure - I meant the mention of that thread in a humorous way - like my
    use of the phrase "Distinguished Career", nothing I post here should be
    taken seriously!

    As for Kissin and Kocsis, my thought is that anyone could be included,
    the only limitation being that just a few characteristic performances
    would be mentioned. It would be interesting to see debates here about
    the pianist's interpretations - and what makes them distinctive and
    special...

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Herman on Tue Feb 28 20:42:37 2023
    On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 7:38:18 PM UTC-8, Herman wrote:

    I'm guessing Kissin was too
    young to be accorded a GPOC?

    He actually has a set in GPOC.

    Did Zoltan Kocsis have one?

    Yes

    dk

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  • From Mandryka@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 28 21:12:29 2023
    On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 3:30:31 AM UTC, Notsure01 wrote:
    As the proud originator(1) of the longest running thread on RMCR(2), and inspired by the current thread about the GPOC, I thought it might be interesting to find out what folks here would choose for an imaginary
    "Great Recordings" volume of a favorite pianist.

    For those familiar with the term, we could have a "Fantasy Baseball" of music, or a "Virtual Competition", but with no strict rules about who to include or how many works. (Except we might want to avoid personal insults(3))

    (1) I should probably insert a smiley
    (2) The thread "Characteristic Recordings - Celibidache et. al." has
    been going since October!! (Yes,I know..)
    (3) Here is something Einstein might have said: "You Never Fail Until
    You Stop Trying"
    John Bingham

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  • From Herman@21:1/5 to Marc S on Tue Feb 28 23:55:41 2023
    On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:23:49 AM UTC+1, Marc S wrote:
    I'd be very interested to hear what piano performances Herman would consider to be great - just for laughs.

    No need for that, we've got this thread Notsure alluded to, in which you momentously change your views about Mozart every day, as if anyone cares - a futile attempt at sounding like a connoisseur.

    And "connoisseur" is a phony concept anyway, as the Hatto debacle demonstrated.

    Also, I don't have this piano fetish.

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  • From Marc S@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 28 23:23:47 2023
    I'd be very interested to hear what piano performances Herman would consider to be great - just for laughs.

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  • From JohnGavin@21:1/5 to Herman on Wed Mar 1 03:20:46 2023
    On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 2:55:44 AM UTC-5, Herman wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:23:49 AM UTC+1, Marc S wrote:
    I'd be very interested to hear what piano performances Herman would consider to be great - just for laughs.
    No need for that, we've got this thread Notsure alluded to, in which you momentously change your views about Mozart every day, as if anyone cares - a futile attempt at sounding like a connoisseur.

    And "connoisseur" is a phony concept anyway, as the Hatto debacle demonstrated.

    Also, I don't have this piano fetish.

    One delight in the set is Michelangeli’s performance of Gaspard de La Nuit . The surprise is in the outstanding sound quality. Consider that none of the various Gaspards from ABM are studio recordings. They are radio broadcasts or pirates.

    A frustration for me is that the greatest of all Gaspards IMO is from a 1968 Carnegie Hall recital by Michelangeli (it’s on YouTube). It is, however clearly recorded by someone in the audience, and therefore not in very good sound. That entire
    recital is on a transcendental level, by the way.

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  • From HT@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 1 04:17:41 2023
    Op woensdag 1 maart 2023 om 04:30:31 UTC+1 schreef Notsure01:
    As the proud originator(1) of the longest running thread on RMCR(2), and inspired by the current thread about the GPOC, I thought it might be interesting to find out what folks here would choose for an imaginary
    "Great Recordings" volume of a favorite pianist.

    For those familiar with the term, we could have a "Fantasy Baseball" of music, or a "Virtual Competition", but with no strict rules about who to include or how many works. (Except we might want to avoid personal insults(3))

    (1) I should probably insert a smiley
    (2) The thread "Characteristic Recordings - Celibidache et. al." has
    been going since October!! (Yes,I know..)
    (3) Here is something Einstein might have said: "You Never Fail Until
    You Stop Trying"

    Tagliaferro

    Concerto: Hahn and Saint-Saëns #5

    Solo:
    Debussy: Jardin sous la pluie, Toccata (or the complete Pour le piano, if there is room)
    Hahn: Le Rossignol éperdu, Sonatine
    Mompou: Jeunes filles au Jardin and La Rue; Le Guitariste et le Vieux Cheval Schumann: Sonate Op. 11
    Villa-Lobos: Bachanias Brasileiras #8, Ciclo Brasileiro #1-3

    Henk

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  • From Marc S@21:1/5 to Herman on Wed Mar 1 06:44:01 2023
    Herman schrieb am Mittwoch, 1. März 2023 um 08:55:44 UTC+1:
    On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:23:49 AM UTC+1, Marc S wrote:
    I'd be very interested to hear what piano performances Herman would consider to be great - just for laughs.
    No need for that, we've got this thread Notsure alluded to, in which you momentously change your views about Mozart every day, as if anyone cares - a futile attempt at sounding like a connoisseur.

    I'm not trying to sound like a connoisseur, man - haha; I'm just trying to figure out which recordings I like best.


    And "connoisseur" is a phony concept anyway, as the Hatto debacle demonstrated.

    Seems as if you are the real connoisseur.


    Also, I don't have this piano fetish.

    Me neither.

    How about staying on topic for once dear Herman; let us know what you consider to be the Greatest Piano POC (this or the last), or "characteristic performances" as Notsure put it. You don't need to have a piano fetish for this.

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  • From Mandryka@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 1 08:47:19 2023
    On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 12:17:43 PM UTC, HT wrote:
    Op woensdag 1 maart 2023 om 04:30:31 UTC+1 schreef Notsure01:
    As the proud originator(1) of the longest running thread on RMCR(2), and inspired by the current thread about the GPOC, I thought it might be interesting to find out what folks here would choose for an imaginary "Great Recordings" volume of a favorite pianist.

    For those familiar with the term, we could have a "Fantasy Baseball" of music, or a "Virtual Competition", but with no strict rules about who to include or how many works. (Except we might want to avoid personal insults(3))

    (1) I should probably insert a smiley
    (2) The thread "Characteristic Recordings - Celibidache et. al." has
    been going since October!! (Yes,I know..)
    (3) Here is something Einstein might have said: "You Never Fail Until
    You Stop Trying"
    Tagliaferro

    Concerto: Hahn and Saint-Saëns #5

    Solo:
    Debussy: Jardin sous la pluie, Toccata (or the complete Pour le piano, if there is room)
    Hahn: Le Rossignol éperdu, Sonatine
    Mompou: Jeunes filles au Jardin and La Rue; Le Guitariste et le Vieux Cheval Schumann: Sonate Op. 11
    Villa-Lobos: Bachanias Brasileiras #8, Ciclo Brasileiro #1-3

    Henk

    https://www.amazon.it/Magda-Tagliaferro-Granados-Villa-Lobos-Schumann/dp/B019GR8FM2/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1468139916&sr=8-5&keywords=magda+tagliaferro

    I have a recording of her playing the Schumann sonata, on this disc -- I don't know if it's the same. It's certainly special.

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  • From HT@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 1 09:10:50 2023
    Op woensdag 1 maart 2023 om 17:47:22 UTC+1 schreef Mandryka:

    https://www.amazon.it/Magda-Tagliaferro-Granados-Villa-Lobos-Schumann/dp/B019GR8FM2/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1468139916&sr=8-5&keywords=magda+tagliaferro

    I have a recording of her playing the Schumann sonata, on this disc -- I don't know if it's the same. It's certainly special.

    The version I referred to was from 1951.

    Henk

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  • From HT@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 1 10:06:25 2023
    Op woensdag 1 maart 2023 om 18:16:40 UTC+1 schreef Mandryka:
    On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 5:10:53 PM UTC, HT wrote:
    Op woensdag 1 maart 2023 om 17:47:22 UTC+1 schreef Mandryka:
    https://www.amazon.it/Magda-Tagliaferro-Granados-Villa-Lobos-Schumann/dp/B019GR8FM2/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1468139916&sr=8-5&keywords=magda+tagliaferro

    I have a recording of her playing the Schumann sonata, on this disc -- I don't know if it's the same. It's certainly special.
    The version I referred to was from 1951.

    Henk
    This then -- I'll check later if it is the same

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pia3bEhlnqs&ab_channel=Ot%C3%A1vioFerreira

    Yes, this is the version. As you say, it's special ...

    Henk

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  • From Mandryka@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 1 09:16:37 2023
    On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 5:10:53 PM UTC, HT wrote:
    Op woensdag 1 maart 2023 om 17:47:22 UTC+1 schreef Mandryka:
    https://www.amazon.it/Magda-Tagliaferro-Granados-Villa-Lobos-Schumann/dp/B019GR8FM2/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1468139916&sr=8-5&keywords=magda+tagliaferro

    I have a recording of her playing the Schumann sonata, on this disc -- I don't know if it's the same. It's certainly special.
    The version I referred to was from 1951.

    Henk

    This then -- I'll check later if it is the same

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pia3bEhlnqs&ab_channel=Ot%C3%A1vioFerreira

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