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    From raymond.hallbear1@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 18 18:07:58 2023
    https://youtu.be/pjZPHW0qVvo

    A clip showing de la Parra conducting a very popular piece. She is in the Dudes territory, but this sounds excellent to me.

    There is a fair bit of Parra and this Paris orchestra on YT, and especially in Revueltas, circa 2015. Workout for the flutes and percussion etc.

    Sensemaya (Revueltas) and Sinfonia India (Chavez) I imprinted on from Bernstein, NYPO.

    Ray Hall, Taree

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  • From number_six@21:1/5 to raymond....@gmail.com on Mon Feb 20 17:12:59 2023
    On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 6:08:01 PM UTC-8, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
    https://youtu.be/pjZPHW0qVvo

    A clip showing de la Parra conducting a very popular piece. She is in the Dudes territory, but this sounds excellent to me.

    There is a fair bit of Parra and this Paris orchestra on YT, and especially in Revueltas, circa 2015. Workout for the flutes and percussion etc.

    Sensemaya (Revueltas) and Sinfonia India (Chavez) I imprinted on from Bernstein, NYPO.

    Ray Hall, Taree

    In the danzon style, Rotterdam Conservatory recorded a superb disk for Nimbus.

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  • From number_six@21:1/5 to raymond....@gmail.com on Mon Feb 20 17:22:15 2023
    On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 6:08:01 PM UTC-8, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
    https://youtu.be/pjZPHW0qVvo

    A clip showing de la Parra conducting a very popular piece. She is in the Dudes territory, but this sounds excellent to me.

    I see this program also included the Moncayo Huapango -- will have to see some more later.

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  • From raymond.hallbear1@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 20 19:48:58 2023
    On Tuesday, 21 February 2023 at 12:22:18 UTC+11, number_six wrote:
    On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 6:08:01 PM UTC-8, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
    https://youtu.be/pjZPHW0qVvo

    A clip showing de la Parra conducting a very popular piece. She is in the Dudes territory, but this sounds excellent to me.

    I see this program also included the Moncayo Huapango -- will have to see some more later.

    Here is de la Parra's La Noche de los mayos by Revueltas of the same program. Her facial expressions from 19.50 on are frightening :-

    https://youtu.be/uenaA6djuzQ

    Also Moncayo's Huapango :-

    https://youtu.be/LF8OgAuYHmA

    Ray Hall, Taree

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  • From raymond.hallbear1@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 23 18:02:01 2023
    On Friday, 24 February 2023 at 12:17:07 UTC+11, number_six wrote:
    On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 7:49:00 PM UTC-8, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, 21 February 2023 at 12:22:18 UTC+11, number_six wrote:
    On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 6:08:01 PM UTC-8, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
    https://youtu.be/pjZPHW0qVvo

    A clip showing de la Parra conducting a very popular piece. She is in the Dudes territory, but this sounds excellent to me.

    I see this program also included the Moncayo Huapango -- will have to see some more later.
    Here is de la Parra's La Noche de los mayos by Revueltas of the same program. Her facial expressions from 19.50 on are frightening :-

    https://youtu.be/uenaA6djuzQ

    Also Moncayo's Huapango :-

    https://youtu.be/LF8OgAuYHmA

    Ray Hall, Taree
    Thanks -- she's very good in this repertoire.

    Yes. I have just listened to her with the Cologne orchestra, and it is a complete plod to these ears. So in this work, Prokofiev's 1st, she fails utterly. This work should sparkle.

    https://youtu.be/M8WB6KGNGJA

    Ray Hall, Taree

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  • From number_six@21:1/5 to raymond....@gmail.com on Thu Feb 23 17:17:04 2023
    On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 7:49:00 PM UTC-8, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, 21 February 2023 at 12:22:18 UTC+11, number_six wrote:
    On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 6:08:01 PM UTC-8, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
    https://youtu.be/pjZPHW0qVvo

    A clip showing de la Parra conducting a very popular piece. She is in the Dudes territory, but this sounds excellent to me.

    I see this program also included the Moncayo Huapango -- will have to see some more later.
    Here is de la Parra's La Noche de los mayos by Revueltas of the same program. Her facial expressions from 19.50 on are frightening :-

    https://youtu.be/uenaA6djuzQ

    Also Moncayo's Huapango :-

    https://youtu.be/LF8OgAuYHmA

    Ray Hall, Taree
    Thanks -- she's very good in this repertoire.

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  • From Music Lover@21:1/5 to raymond....@gmail.com on Fri Feb 24 16:14:20 2023
    On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 6:02:04 PM UTC-8, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, 24 February 2023 at 12:17:07 UTC+11, number_six wrote:
    On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 7:49:00 PM UTC-8, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, 21 February 2023 at 12:22:18 UTC+11, number_six wrote:
    On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 6:08:01 PM UTC-8, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
    https://youtu.be/pjZPHW0qVvo

    A clip showing de la Parra conducting a very popular piece. She is in the Dudes territory, but this sounds excellent to me.

    I see this program also included the Moncayo Huapango -- will have to see some more later.
    Here is de la Parra's La Noche de los mayos by Revueltas of the same program. Her facial expressions from 19.50 on are frightening :-

    https://youtu.be/uenaA6djuzQ

    Also Moncayo's Huapango :-

    https://youtu.be/LF8OgAuYHmA

    Ray Hall, Taree
    Thanks -- she's very good in this repertoire.
    Yes. I have just listened to her with the Cologne orchestra, and it is a complete plod to these ears. So in this work, Prokofiev's 1st, she fails utterly. This work should sparkle.

    https://youtu.be/M8WB6KGNGJA

    Ray Hall, Taree


    Marquez is a real snooze fest. Dudamel keeps trotting it out. Huapango is a great listen for me and someone
    like Herrera de la Fuente makes it come alive. Dudamel not so much.

    Someone here said she was encroaching
    Dudamel territory. Pleasssseeeee.

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  • From raymond.hallbear1@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Music Lover on Fri Feb 24 19:01:08 2023
    On Saturday, 25 February 2023 at 11:14:23 UTC+11, Music Lover wrote:
    On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 6:02:04 PM UTC-8, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, 24 February 2023 at 12:17:07 UTC+11, number_six wrote:
    On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 7:49:00 PM UTC-8, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, 21 February 2023 at 12:22:18 UTC+11, number_six wrote:
    On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 6:08:01 PM UTC-8, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
    https://youtu.be/pjZPHW0qVvo

    A clip showing de la Parra conducting a very popular piece. She is in the Dudes territory, but this sounds excellent to me.

    I see this program also included the Moncayo Huapango -- will have to see some more later.
    Here is de la Parra's La Noche de los mayos by Revueltas of the same program. Her facial expressions from 19.50 on are frightening :-

    https://youtu.be/uenaA6djuzQ

    Also Moncayo's Huapango :-

    https://youtu.be/LF8OgAuYHmA

    Ray Hall, Taree
    Thanks -- she's very good in this repertoire.
    Yes. I have just listened to her with the Cologne orchestra, and it is a complete plod to these ears. So in this work, Prokofiev's 1st, she fails utterly. This work should sparkle.

    https://youtu.be/M8WB6KGNGJA

    Ray Hall, Taree
    Marquez is a real snooze fest. Dudamel keeps trotting it out. Huapango is a great listen for me and someone
    like Herrera de la Fuente makes it come alive. Dudamel not so much.

    Someone here said she was encroaching
    Dudamel territory. Pleasssseeeee.

    I think I said something similar, but made no judgement about the musical results. For me, Bernstein ruled in Revueltez and Chavez, at least as recorded. After hearing de la Parra's plodding Prokofiev, my estimation of her has gone down. I am not
    absolutely convinced about her Revueltas etc., either. Seems very well played but on reflection a little too polite and polished maybe?

    Ray Hall, Taree

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