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  • Re: Does this also apply to the greatest music?

    From HT@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 17 08:10:56 2023
    Op vrijdag 17 februari 2023 om 17:00:54 UTC+1 schreef gggg gggg:
    - If I have a criterion for choosing the greatest films, it's an emotional one. These are films that moved me deeply in one way or another.

    https://movieweb.com/greatest-films-roger-ebert/

    What does "moved me deeply" mean in this context? What does "greatest" mean? How is deep related to great? Or is it a tautology: deepest = greatest?

    Henk

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 17 08:00:49 2023
    - If I have a criterion for choosing the greatest films, it's an emotional one. These are films that moved me deeply in one way or another.

    https://movieweb.com/greatest-films-roger-ebert/

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  • From Andy Evans@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 17 15:28:43 2023
    I don't want to be "deeply moved" when I listen to music. I just want to like the music and listen to something that's in tune with my mood at the time.

    The idea of being "deeply moved" all day sounds rather psychiatric to me.....

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Andy Evans on Fri Feb 17 15:47:03 2023
    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 3:28:45 PM UTC-8, Andy Evans wrote:

    I don't want to be "deeply moved" when I listen to music. I
    just want to like the music and listen to something that's
    in tune with my mood at the time.

    No moodal counterpoint? ;-)

    The idea of being "deeply moved" all day sounds rather
    psychiatric to me.....

    I like to experience some flavor of emotional engagement
    and intellectual excitement. I would not go as far at to be
    specific about the flavor. It all depends on the situation.

    I prefer to listen to jazz while driving. It improves my
    attention and my mileage -- sometimes by as much
    as 30 mph! There are very few classical works I can
    listen to while driving -- the most notable exception
    being Iberia. I can listen to Iberia non stop all the
    time every time of the day or the night, no matter
    what else I am doing at the same time.

    dk

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  • From Todd M. McComb@21:1/5 to performanceandmedia@gmail.com on Fri Feb 17 23:32:58 2023
    In article <047c6cee-3355-4cee-a4c5-fe0081034aadn@googlegroups.com>,
    Andy Evans <performanceandmedia@gmail.com> wrote:
    The idea of being "deeply moved" all day sounds rather psychiatric
    to me.....

    Something I seek of music these days is something to clear my head.

    I don't like having tunes "stuck" in my head, so music that'll clear
    that out, without leaving anything behind itself, is great. Very
    practical for the 21st century.

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  • From Al Eisner@21:1/5 to Todd M. McComb on Sat Feb 18 20:50:23 2023
    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023, Todd M. McComb wrote:

    In article <047c6cee-3355-4cee-a4c5-fe0081034aadn@googlegroups.com>,
    Andy Evans <performanceandmedia@gmail.com> wrote:
    The idea of being "deeply moved" all day sounds rather psychiatric
    to me.....

    Something I seek of music these days is something to clear my head.

    I don't like having tunes "stuck" in my head, so music that'll clear
    that out, without leaving anything behind itself, is great. Very
    practical for the 21st century.


    You can really listen to the Schubert E-flat trio without any of it
    sticking in your head?
    --
    Al Eisner

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  • From Todd M. McComb@21:1/5 to eisner@slac.stanford.edu on Sun Feb 19 05:18:05 2023
    In article <alpine.LRH.2.00.2302182049020.1125@iris02.slac.stanford.edu>,
    Al Eisner <eisner@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
    You can really listen to the Schubert E-flat trio without any of
    it sticking in your head?

    No. That music does not serve such a purpose.

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  • From Todd M. McComb@21:1/5 to Todd M. McComb on Sun Feb 19 18:44:33 2023
    In article <tssbed$u0b$1@hope.eyrie.org>,
    Todd M. McComb <mccomb@medieval.org> wrote:
    In article <alpine.LRH.2.00.2302182049020.1125@iris02.slac.stanford.edu>,
    Al Eisner <eisner@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
    You can really listen to the Schubert E-flat trio without any of
    it sticking in your head?
    No. That music does not serve such a purpose.

    Perhaps to be more clear, while there are some "tunes" that I don't
    want in my head at all, ever -- e.g. commercial jingles -- there's
    other "tuneful" music that I do enjoy. Even then, it might overstay
    its welcome, and I'll seek to evict. Likely to be invited back at
    some point....

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  • From Al Eisner@21:1/5 to Todd M. McComb on Mon Feb 20 21:59:30 2023
    On Sun, 19 Feb 2023, Todd M. McComb wrote:

    In article <tssbed$u0b$1@hope.eyrie.org>,
    Todd M. McComb <mccomb@medieval.org> wrote:
    In article <alpine.LRH.2.00.2302182049020.1125@iris02.slac.stanford.edu>,
    Al Eisner <eisner@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
    You can really listen to the Schubert E-flat trio without any of
    it sticking in your head?
    No. That music does not serve such a purpose.

    Perhaps to be more clear, while there are some "tunes" that I don't
    want in my head at all, ever -- e.g. commercial jingles -- there's
    other "tuneful" music that I do enjoy. Even then, it might overstay
    its welcome, and I'll seek to evict. Likely to be invited back at
    some point....

    Oh, good. I actually found your initial response incomprehensible.
    It's not just tunes, at least for me, but some feeling of underlying
    harmony, etc., even if I could not articulate what it is.
    --
    Al Eisner

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  • From Todd M. McComb@21:1/5 to eisner@slac.stanford.edu on Tue Feb 21 07:38:39 2023
    In article <alpine.LRH.2.00.2302202154120.32073@iris02.slac.stanford.edu>,
    Al Eisner <eisner@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
    It's not just tunes, at least for me, but some feeling of underlying
    harmony, etc., even if I could not articulate what it is.

    That's actually why I say tunes, rather than melodies or something
    more technically monophonic, but yes.

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 25 18:26:27 2023
    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 8:00:54 AM UTC-8, wrote:
    - If I have a criterion for choosing the greatest films, it's an emotional one. These are films that moved me deeply in one way or another.

    https://movieweb.com/greatest-films-roger-ebert/

    The following begins:

    - Whether AI will one day create art containing emotional content is one of the most controversial debates that have sparked since the birth of artificial intelligence. Will a machine be able to create art?

    https://ai.plainenglish.io/why-ai-can-generate-art-we-can-understand-a-jungian-approach-bab576d09517

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