• Chopin - Simonov

    From raymond.hallbear1@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 16 18:57:33 2023
    https://youtu.be/smKXYSEI9MY

    Seriously, Yuri Simonov shows here a musicality the present bunch of hopefuls can only guess at. Worth watching for his performance alone.

    Ray Hall, Taree

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  • From HT@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 17 01:43:38 2023
    Op vrijdag 17 februari 2023 om 03:57:36 UTC+1 schreef raymond....@gmail.com:
    https://youtu.be/smKXYSEI9MY

    Seriously, Yuri Simonov shows here a musicality the present bunch of hopefuls can only guess at. Worth watching for his performance alone.

    Ray Hall, Taree

    Fascinating. A perfect impersonation of the 'soul' of the military. I don't understand why they added the orchestra and music.

    Henk

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  • From raymond.hallbear1@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 17 01:56:54 2023
    On Friday, 17 February 2023 at 20:43:41 UTC+11, HT wrote:
    Op vrijdag 17 februari 2023 om 03:57:36 UTC+1 schreef raymond....gmail.com:
    https://youtu.be/smKXYSEI9MY

    Seriously, Yuri Simonov shows here a musicality the present bunch of hopefuls can only guess at. Worth watching for his performance alone.

    Ray Hall, Taree
    Fascinating. A perfect impersonation of the 'soul' of the military. I don't understand why they added the orchestra and music.

    Henk

    Yes, depends on how you view it. I see it as an example of Simonov gooning about a bit, but in a very musical way.

    Ray Hall, Taree

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  • From Notsure01@21:1/5 to raymond....@gmail.com on Fri Feb 17 06:52:45 2023
    On 2/16/23 9:57 PM, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
    https://youtu.be/smKXYSEI9MY

    Seriously, Yuri Simonov shows here a musicality the present bunch of hopefuls can only guess at. Worth watching for his performance alone.

    Ray Hall, Taree

    Ray, thanks for sharing two interesting videos. Both Simonov and
    Nishimoto have a vigorous way of conducting that seems to be less common.

    Over the years I've frequently heard the comment "the musicians are not
    even looking at the conductor!" so how much do those gestures really accomplish? The real work is probably done in rehearsals - the gestures
    are for the audience? I'm not a musician so wonder about people's
    thoughts...

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  • From raymond.hallbear1@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 17 05:01:09 2023
    On Friday, 17 February 2023 at 22:52:50 UTC+11, Notsure01 wrote:
    On 2/16/23 9:57 PM, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
    https://youtu.be/smKXYSEI9MY

    Seriously, Yuri Simonov shows here a musicality the present bunch of hopefuls can only guess at. Worth watching for his performance alone.

    Ray Hall, Taree
    Ray, thanks for sharing two interesting videos. Both Simonov and
    Nishimoto have a vigorous way of conducting that seems to be less common.

    Over the years I've frequently heard the comment "the musicians are not
    even looking at the conductor!" so how much do those gestures really accomplish? The real work is probably done in rehearsals - the gestures
    are for the audience? I'm not a musician so wonder about people's thoughts...

    This video clearly shows that the orchestra are too busy looking at their music sheets, and playing. Clearly 95% of the work is done in rehearsal. In any case, I am sure for most good orchestras that a conductor isn't essential to play most pieces very
    competently. But is competence enough? The musicians in good orchestras have already proved their competence or they wouldn't be holding their positions. They listen to each other, and it is true that conductor-less orchestras like the Orpheus are
    successful. But this doesn't do it for me.

    Where the conductor comes in, is in presenting a unique musical vision as seen by one person. A sole point of contact, a focus, for better or for worse. It could even be said that there are a few too many conductors who act detrimentally on the final
    result, and it is only when you get a master conductor, that musical sparks can fly.

    Simonov is one of the better conductors and he often clowns around showing off, especially in the lighter pieces. His musicality is clearly evident at least to me. He has recorded a heap of stuff with the RPO and especially a very good Mahler 1st.

    Ray Hall, Taree

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  • From Herman@21:1/5 to raymond....@gmail.com on Fri Feb 17 07:53:59 2023
    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 3:57:36 AM UTC+1, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
    https://youtu.be/smKXYSEI9MY

    Seriously, Yuri Simonov shows here a musicality the present bunch of hopefuls can only guess at. Worth watching for his performance alone.

    Ray Hall, Taree

    My God, you're easily impressed.

    On occasions like this, one misses M Forever....

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  • From raymond.hallbear1@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Herman on Fri Feb 17 18:50:53 2023
    On Saturday, 18 February 2023 at 02:54:01 UTC+11, Herman wrote:
    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 3:57:36 AM UTC+1, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
    https://youtu.be/smKXYSEI9MY

    Seriously, Yuri Simonov shows here a musicality the present bunch of hopefuls can only guess at. Worth watching for his performance alone.

    Ray Hall, Taree
    My God, you're easily impressed.

    On occasions like this, one misses M Forever....

    I have made it clear that he isn't in my top tier. But making comparisons with some of the new hopefuls, many of whom choke the music bar by bleeding bar, like boa constrictors, strangling every last sense of musical line from orchestras, at least
    Simonov has character, even if it is misplaced quite often. Fedoseyev is a much better conductor.

    Ray Hall, Taree

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