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  • Re: Heinrich Schuetz. Was: Recording contracts...?

    From Andy Evans@21:1/5 to Chris J. on Tue Feb 14 05:06:24 2023
    On Tuesday, 14 February 2023 at 12:58:54 UTC, Chris J. wrote:
    More Heinrich Schütz there:
    <https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/111703-000-A/heinrich-schuetz-christmas-
    oratorio/>
    Perhaps an underrated composer?
    Chris

    Not having any interest whatever in music of this old vintage, I find it very hard to work out if Schütz was underrated or what.

    How do you tell with such old culture? Sorry for being so lowbrow here.

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  • From Chris J.@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 14 12:58:50 2023
    On 12 Feb 2023 Andrew Clarke wrote:

    Incidentally, lovers of Heinrich Schutz might like to listen to a
    concert currently on Arte from Les Cris de Paris.

    <https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/104543-000-A/heinrich-schuetz-polyphonies- sacrees-par-les-cris-de-paris/>

    More Heinrich Schütz there:

    <https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/111703-000-A/heinrich-schuetz-christmas- oratorio/>

    Perhaps an underrated composer?

    Chris

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  • From Andrew Clarke@21:1/5 to Chris J. on Tue Feb 14 13:21:25 2023
    On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 11:58:54 PM UTC+11, Chris J. wrote:
    On 12 Feb 2023 Andrew Clarke wrote:

    Incidentally, lovers of Heinrich Schutz might like to listen to a
    concert currently on Arte from Les Cris de Paris.

    <https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/104543-000-A/heinrich-schuetz-polyphonies- sacrees-par-les-cris-de-paris/>

    More Heinrich Schütz there:

    <https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/111703-000-A/heinrich-schuetz-christmas- oratorio/>

    Perhaps an underrated composer?

    Chris

    I don't know how other people rate Heinrich Schuetz, but I rate him very highly indeed. He's bit of a paradox I suppose - solid German Lutheran meets florid Italian Renaissance - he was a student of Gabrieli. Lots of stuff for double choir and soloists
    as a result, not to mention sackbuts, cornetts, blockfloete, dolcians &c. His output was enormous. I was first won over by his settings of the Psalms of David, especially 'Ich freue mich dass' (I was glad, c.f. Parry - and the wonderfully named "Herr,
    unser Herscher, wie Herrlich ist dein Nam in alle Laender". Then there's the 'Weihnachtshistorie' or Christmas Story, which I play every Christmas, and the deeply moving 'Musikalische Exequien' or Funeral Music, written for an actual funeral of a German
    count, and which includes a wonderful setting of the 'Nunc Dimittis' or Song of Simeon if you prefer. Then there's the three (?) books of 'Sinfoniae sacrae' ...

    A complete edition has been recorded in Dresden by the Dresdner Kammerchor, under Hans-Christoph Rademann.

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

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  • From Al Eisner@21:1/5 to Andy Evans on Wed Feb 15 14:41:46 2023
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    On Tue, 14 Feb 2023, Andy Evans wrote:

    On Tuesday, 14 February 2023 at 12:58:54 UTC, Chris J. wrote:
    More Heinrich Schütz there:
    <https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/111703-000-A/heinrich-schuetz-christmas-
    oratorio/>
    Perhaps an underrated composer?
    Chris

    Not having any interest whatever in music of this old vintage, I find it very hard to work out if Schütz was underrated or what.

    How do you tell with such old culture? Sorry for being so lowbrow here.

    "Underrated" is not a correct or useful term here. Schütz was one of
    the greatest composers of the early Baroque, but most listeners to
    classical music do not listen to music of that period at all. So they
    do not "rate" composers of that period. (I personally do not know
    his music anywhere close to well enough; I ought to remedy that.)
    --
    Al Eisner

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  • From Andrew Clarke@21:1/5 to Al Eisner on Wed Feb 15 16:10:54 2023
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:41:55 AM UTC+11, Al Eisner wrote:
    On Tue, 14 Feb 2023, Andy Evans wrote:

    On Tuesday, 14 February 2023 at 12:58:54 UTC, Chris J. wrote:
    More Heinrich Schütz there:
    <https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/111703-000-A/heinrich-schuetz-christmas- >> oratorio/>
    Perhaps an underrated composer?
    Chris

    Not having any interest whatever in music of this old vintage, I find it very hard to work out if Schütz was underrated or what.

    How do you tell with such old culture? Sorry for being so lowbrow here.
    "Underrated" is not a correct or useful term here. Schütz was one of
    the greatest composers of the early Baroque, but most listeners to
    classical music do not listen to music of that period at all. So they
    do not "rate" composers of that period. (I personally do not know
    his music anywhere close to well enough; I ought to remedy that.)
    --
    Al Eisner

    Yes, indeed, Al, but a word of warning - some of his late works cast off the glories of Venice and revert to a very austere almost plainchant style, which could be disappointing. As a matter of interest, do most listeners to classical music not listen to
    the music of Monteverdi or, from a little later, Marc-Antoine Charpentier?

    Here is a little bit of heaven:

    < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQmVnKyrf6Q&t=19s >

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

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  • From Notsure01@21:1/5 to Andrew Clarke on Wed Feb 15 22:01:06 2023
    On 2/15/23 7:10 PM, Andrew Clarke wrote:

    Here is a little bit of heaven:

    < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQmVnKyrf6Q&t=19s >

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

    Buxtehude was another really great composer who doesn't seem to be much
    in fashion now. I particularly enjoy his Membra Jesu Nostri:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWbBK2poJlE

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  • From Al Eisner@21:1/5 to Andrew Clarke on Wed Feb 15 18:45:05 2023
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    On Wed, 15 Feb 2023, Andrew Clarke wrote:

    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:41:55 AM UTC+11, Al Eisner wrote:
    On Tue, 14 Feb 2023, Andy Evans wrote:

    On Tuesday, 14 February 2023 at 12:58:54 UTC, Chris J. wrote:
    More Heinrich Schütz there:
    <https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/111703-000-A/heinrich-schuetz-christmas- >>>> oratorio/>
    Perhaps an underrated composer?
    Chris

    Not having any interest whatever in music of this old vintage, I find it very hard to work out if Schütz was underrated or what.

    How do you tell with such old culture? Sorry for being so lowbrow here.
    "Underrated" is not a correct or useful term here. Schütz was one of
    the greatest composers of the early Baroque, but most listeners to
    classical music do not listen to music of that period at all. So they
    do not "rate" composers of that period. (I personally do not know
    his music anywhere close to well enough; I ought to remedy that.)
    --
    Al Eisner

    Yes, indeed, Al, but a word of warning - some of his late works cast off the glories of Venice and revert to a very austere almost plainchant style, which could be disappointing. As a matter of interest, do most listeners to classical music not listen
    to the music of Monteverdi or, from a little later, Marc-Antoine Charpentier?

    Here is a little bit of heaven:

    < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQmVnKyrf6Q&t=19s >

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

    Thanks for that link. Those are two other composers I would rank
    similarly; there may be more that I simply don't know enough about,
    so a caveat emptor is in order. Perhaps nitpicking, but I would not
    call Charpentier "early" baroque. Still, I doubt if he is more
    listened to than Schütz. Mointeverdi may be a special case, since
    his operas (and Vespers) get performed, and the madrigals are in a
    semi-popular style. I could easily be wrong about any of this.
    --
    Al Eisner

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 15 19:55:23 2023
    On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 7:01:11 PM UTC-8, Notsure01 wrote:
    On 2/15/23 7:10 PM, Andrew Clarke wrote:

    Here is a little bit of heaven:

    < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQmVnKyrf6Q&t=19s >

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

    Buxtehude was another really great composer who
    doesn't seem to be much in fashion now. I particularly
    enjoy his Membra Jesu Nostri:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWbBK2poJlE

    He hasn't been in fashion for well over 2 centuries.

    dk

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  • From Andrew Clarke@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Wed Feb 15 20:04:12 2023
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 2:55:26 PM UTC+11, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 7:01:11 PM UTC-8, Notsure01 wrote:
    On 2/15/23 7:10 PM, Andrew Clarke wrote:

    Here is a little bit of heaven:

    < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQmVnKyrf6Q&t=19s >

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

    Buxtehude was another really great composer who
    doesn't seem to be much in fashion now. I particularly
    enjoy his Membra Jesu Nostri:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWbBK2poJlE
    He hasn't been in fashion for well over 2 centuries.

    dk

    Except among organists.

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

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  • From Andrew Clarke@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 15 20:04:20 2023
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 2:01:11 PM UTC+11, Notsure01 wrote:
    On 2/15/23 7:10 PM, Andrew Clarke wrote:

    Here is a little bit of heaven:

    < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQmVnKyrf6Q&t=19s >

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra
    Buxtehude was another really great composer who doesn't seem to be much
    in fashion now. I particularly enjoy his Membra Jesu Nostri:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWbBK2poJlE

    Lots of other great motets, plus some very agreeable sonatas. Not to mention the organ works ...

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Andrew Clarke on Wed Feb 15 20:14:29 2023
    On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 8:04:14 PM UTC-8, Andrew Clarke wrote:
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 2:55:26 PM UTC+11, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 7:01:11 PM UTC-8, Notsure01 wrote:
    On 2/15/23 7:10 PM, Andrew Clarke wrote:

    Here is a little bit of heaven:

    < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQmVnKyrf6Q&t=19s >

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

    Buxtehude was another really great composer who
    doesn't seem to be much in fashion now. I particularly
    enjoy his Membra Jesu Nostri:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWbBK2poJlE
    He hasn't been in fashion for well over 2 centuries.

    Except among organists.

    Obviously. However I
    prefer Cesar Franck.

    dk

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  • From Andrew Clarke@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Wed Feb 15 21:45:47 2023
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 3:14:31 PM UTC+11, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 8:04:14 PM UTC-8, Andrew Clarke wrote:
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 2:55:26 PM UTC+11, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 7:01:11 PM UTC-8, Notsure01 wrote:
    On 2/15/23 7:10 PM, Andrew Clarke wrote:

    Here is a little bit of heaven:

    < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQmVnKyrf6Q&t=19s >

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

    Buxtehude was another really great composer who
    doesn't seem to be much in fashion now. I particularly
    enjoy his Membra Jesu Nostri:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWbBK2poJlE
    He hasn't been in fashion for well over 2 centuries.

    Except among organists.

    Obviously. However I
    prefer Cesar Franck.

    dk

    That must be a very painful affliction, Dan, and I do feel for you ...

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Andrew Clarke on Wed Feb 15 23:26:54 2023
    On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 9:45:50 PM UTC-8, Andrew Clarke wrote:
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 3:14:31 PM UTC+11, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 8:04:14 PM UTC-8, Andrew Clarke wrote:

    Except among organists.

    Obviously. However I
    prefer Cesar Franck.

    That must be a very painful
    affliction, Dan, and I do feel
    for you ...

    ?!? No pain at all !!!

    dk

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