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  • The greatest 3rd symphony ever!

    From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 11 00:46:49 2023
    https://youtu.be/aw3lZmANpGw?t=3457

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Sun Feb 12 20:55:51 2023
    On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 12:46:52 AM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:

    https://youtu.be/aw3lZmANpGw?t=3457

    Very nice... but this one...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWPB3pjX_UU&t=5s

    ... is on virtually every "greatest" list that is out there. I also have versions with Biggs & Ormandy and Chorzempa-Bern-Maag, and they all have their good points. I have yet to hear "any" version that I do not like... but then, I am pretty easy to
    please... which is my own good luck!

    You, no doubt, will find fault with all of them... am I right?

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Sun Feb 12 22:04:32 2023
    On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 8:55:54 PM UTC-8, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 12:46:52 AM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:

    https://youtu.be/aw3lZmANpGw?t=3457

    Very nice... but this one...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWPB3pjX_UU

    ... is on virtually every "greatest" list that is out there. I
    also have versions with Biggs & Ormandy and Chorzempa-
    Bern-Maag, and they all have their good points. I have yet
    to hear "any" version that I do not like... but then, I am pretty
    easy to please... which is my own good luck!

    You, no doubt, will find fault with all of them... am I right?

    No, why should I? Some older recordings have obvious
    sonic flaws. And it is difficult to find any recordings
    where the oragsn doesn't overpower the orchestra.

    My favorites are (not surprisingly) Georges Prêtre,
    versions with Maurice Duruflé or Marie-Claire Alain:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAojGKF0esI

    and Paul Paray with Marcel Dupré:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YgLVQ5W9Ts

    dk

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  • From Oscar@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 12 22:59:52 2023
    Rach Symphony No.3.

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Oscar on Sun Feb 12 23:10:54 2023
    On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 10:59:55 PM UTC-8, Oscar wrote:

    Rach Symphony No.3.

    Hhmmm..... IMHO the 2nd is his finest.

    I wouldn't object if someone named
    Brahms' 3rd as the "best 3rd". Just
    no Havergal Brian! ;-)

    dk

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  • From raymond.hallbear1@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Oscar on Sun Feb 12 23:35:15 2023
    On Monday, 13 February 2023 at 17:59:55 UTC+11, Oscar wrote:
    Rach Symphony No.3.

    Roy Harris.

    Ray Hall, Taree

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  • From Oscar@21:1/5 to Ray Hall on Mon Feb 13 15:11:52 2023
    On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 11:35:17 PM, Ray Hall wrote:

    Roy Harris.

    Ooo, good call, Ray Hall! Nice one, indeed.

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  • From Kerrison@21:1/5 to Oscar on Tue Feb 14 15:07:23 2023
    On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:11:54 PM UTC, Oscar wrote:
    On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 11:35:17 PM, Ray Hall wrote:

    Roy Harris.

    Ooo, good call, Ray Hall! Nice one, indeed.


    I almost mis-read Rach 3 for Raff 3 ... :) ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkPwk9AeABk

    When did you last hear that "live" or even on the radio?

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  • From Bob Harper@21:1/5 to Kerrison on Sun Feb 19 11:15:00 2023
    On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 3:07:26 PM UTC-8, Kerrison wrote:
    On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:11:54 PM UTC, Oscar wrote:
    On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 11:35:17 PM, Ray Hall wrote:

    Roy Harris.

    Ooo, good call, Ray Hall! Nice one, indeed.
    I almost mis-read Rach 3 for Raff 3 ... :) ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkPwk9AeABk

    When did you last hear that "live" or even on the radio?
    All those mentioned are good (don't know the Raff, but I'll take your word for it), but aren't we ignoring the gigantic elephant in the room? I mean the Eroica, of course, Dan's perverse Beethoven-phobic shtick notwithstanding.

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Bob Harper on Sun Feb 19 15:59:52 2023
    On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:15:02 AM UTC-8, Bob Harper wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 3:07:26 PM UTC-8, Kerrison wrote:
    On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:11:54 PM UTC, Oscar wrote:
    On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 11:35:17 PM, Ray Hall wrote:

    Roy Harris.

    Ooo, good call, Ray Hall! Nice one, indeed.
    I almost mis-read Rach 3 for Raff 3 ... :) ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkPwk9AeABk

    When did you last hear that "live" or even on the radio?

    All those mentioned are good (don't know the Raff, but I'll
    take your word for it), but aren't we ignoring the gigantic
    elephant in the room? I mean the Eroica, of course,

    We are deliberately ignoring marches and military music.

    dk

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  • From raymond.hallbear1@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Bob Harper on Sun Feb 19 18:03:13 2023
    On Monday, 20 February 2023 at 06:15:02 UTC+11, Bob Harper wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 3:07:26 PM UTC-8, Kerrison wrote:
    On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:11:54 PM UTC, Oscar wrote:
    On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 11:35:17 PM, Ray Hall wrote:

    Roy Harris.

    Ooo, good call, Ray Hall! Nice one, indeed.
    I almost mis-read Rach 3 for Raff 3 ... :) ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkPwk9AeABk

    When did you last hear that "live" or even on the radio?
    All those mentioned are good (don't know the Raff, but I'll take your word for it), but aren't we ignoring the gigantic elephant in the room? I mean the Eroica, of course, Dan's perverse Beethoven-phobic shtick notwithstanding.

    Of course, but we were trying to be original. Actually in thinking about it, Prokofiev's 3rd "Fiery Angel" has gradually accumulated more critical plaudits. It can be harsh listening but the orchestration is uniquely Prokofiev.

    Ray Hall, Taree

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  • From Bob Harper@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Mon Feb 20 10:54:11 2023
    On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 3:59:54 PM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:15:02 AM UTC-8, Bob Harper wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 3:07:26 PM UTC-8, Kerrison wrote:
    On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:11:54 PM UTC, Oscar wrote:
    On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 11:35:17 PM, Ray Hall wrote:

    Roy Harris.

    Ooo, good call, Ray Hall! Nice one, indeed.
    I almost mis-read Rach 3 for Raff 3 ... :) ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkPwk9AeABk

    When did you last hear that "live" or even on the radio?

    All those mentioned are good (don't know the Raff, but I'll
    take your word for it), but aren't we ignoring the gigantic
    elephant in the room? I mean the Eroica, of course,
    We are deliberately ignoring marches and military music.

    dk
    Fine, but you are still ignoring the gigantic elephant in the room, even if your characterization of that music is accurate--which it isn't.

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  • From JohnGavin@21:1/5 to Bob Harper on Mon Feb 20 12:12:08 2023
    On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 1:54:14 PM UTC-5, Bob Harper wrote:
    On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 3:59:54 PM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:15:02 AM UTC-8, Bob Harper wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 3:07:26 PM UTC-8, Kerrison wrote:
    On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:11:54 PM UTC, Oscar wrote:
    On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 11:35:17 PM, Ray Hall wrote:

    Roy Harris.

    Ooo, good call, Ray Hall! Nice one, indeed.
    I almost mis-read Rach 3 for Raff 3 ... :) ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkPwk9AeABk

    When did you last hear that "live" or even on the radio?

    All those mentioned are good (don't know the Raff, but I'll
    take your word for it), but aren't we ignoring the gigantic
    elephant in the room? I mean the Eroica, of course,
    We are deliberately ignoring marches and military music.

    dk
    Fine, but you are still ignoring the gigantic elephant in the room, even if your characterization of that music is accurate--which it isn't.

    Mendelssohn #3 - Scottish

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  • From HT@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 20 13:24:40 2023
    Op maandag 20 februari 2023 om 21:12:10 UTC+1 schreef JohnGavin:
    On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 1:54:14 PM UTC-5, Bob Harper wrote:
    On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 3:59:54 PM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:15:02 AM UTC-8, Bob Harper wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 3:07:26 PM UTC-8, Kerrison wrote:
    On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:11:54 PM UTC, Oscar wrote:
    On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 11:35:17 PM, Ray Hall wrote:

    Roy Harris.

    Ooo, good call, Ray Hall! Nice one, indeed.
    I almost mis-read Rach 3 for Raff 3 ... :) ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkPwk9AeABk

    When did you last hear that "live" or even on the radio?

    All those mentioned are good (don't know the Raff, but I'll
    take your word for it), but aren't we ignoring the gigantic
    elephant in the room? I mean the Eroica, of course,
    We are deliberately ignoring marches and military music.

    dk
    Fine, but you are still ignoring the gigantic elephant in the room, even if your characterization of that music is accurate--which it isn't.
    Mendelssohn #3 - Scottish

    Roussel #3 Celibidace 1974

    Henk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Bob Harper on Mon Feb 20 14:29:29 2023
    On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 10:54:14 AM UTC-8, Bob Harper wrote:
    On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 3:59:54 PM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:15:02 AM UTC-8, Bob Harper wrote:

    All those mentioned are good (don't know the Raff, but I'll
    take your word for it), but aren't we ignoring the gigantic
    elephant in the room? I mean the Eroica, of course,
    We are deliberately ignoring marches and military music.

    Fine, but you are still ignoring the gigantic elephant
    in the room, even if your characterization of that
    music is accurate--which it isn't.

    How not so? Is the march not a march?

    dk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 21 09:01:11 2023
    On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 1:24:43 PM UTC-8, HT wrote:
    Op maandag 20 februari 2023 om 21:12:10 UTC+1 schreef JohnGavin:

    Mendelssohn #3 - Scottish

    Roussel #3 Celibidache 1974

    I raise you Martinu:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffiNUvQvQ_I

    dk

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  • From HT@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 21 10:00:43 2023
    Op dinsdag 21 februari 2023 om 18:01:14 UTC+1 schreef Dan Koren:
    On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 1:24:43 PM UTC-8, HT wrote:
    Op maandag 20 februari 2023 om 21:12:10 UTC+1 schreef JohnGavin:

    Mendelssohn #3 - Scottish

    Roussel #3 Celibidache 1974

    I raise you Martinu:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffiNUvQvQ_I

    What about Honegger?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvOuDe4uHR4

    Henk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 21 10:14:00 2023
    On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 10:00:47 AM UTC-8, HT wrote:
    Op dinsdag 21 februari 2023 om 18:01:14 UTC+1 schreef Dan Koren:
    On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 1:24:43 PM UTC-8, HT wrote:
    Op maandag 20 februari 2023 om 21:12:10 UTC+1 schreef JohnGavin:

    Mendelssohn #3 - Scottish

    Roussel #3 Celibidache 1974

    I raise you Martinu:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffiNUvQvQ_I

    What about Honegger?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvOuDe4uHR4

    KO! One of my favorites! Also one of the
    earliest symphonies I heard as a kid:
    D.417, D.759, K.550, TH.30, FWV.48,
    WAB.104, WAB.107.

    dk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Oscar on Sat Feb 25 02:30:55 2023
    On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 10:59:55 PM UTC-8, Oscar wrote:

    Rach Symphony No.3.

    I raise you Ruth Gipps:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdOTjpBCnT4

    dk

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