• WAYLTL - February 2023

    From Gerard@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 4 03:36:09 2023
    Vivaldi: concertos (concerti con molti instrumenti) - titled "Il Mondo al rovescio".
    with Amandine Beyer and Gli Incogniti, harmonia mundi 2022

    Very nice. The "molti instrumenti" (or "molti strumenti") are mainly different woodwinds (including chalumeau, or salmoe), violins and sometimes a mandolin or horn or trumpet. The diversity makes this an agreeable program.
    These concertos are not the most popular Vivaldi works, but they have been recorded before quite a few times. Some of these concertos by Biondi, Pinnock, Savall, Goltz and a few others. More complete by Spinosi and the Ensemble Matheus, on Arion (
    disques Pierre Verany), on 2 disks - these are recommended for those who like more of this kind of concertos.

    The subtitle of this disk "concerti con molti instrumenti" however is not correct. There are a few concertos for solo instruments like violin of flute, or a concerto for 2 oboes. The real concerti con molti instrumenti -- and nothing but concerti con
    molti instrumenti -- can be found on the twofer by Spinosi and the Ensemble Matheus.

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  • From Al Eisner@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 4 16:25:50 2023
    On the radio: Anne-Marie McDermott playing Mozart's Piano Concerto #16
    in D, with the Odense Symphony Orchestra under Kenneth Montgomery.
    McDermott plays with both weight and flexibility; I found her
    performance quite impressive. The orchestra/conductor matched this,
    although perhaps a bit too "free" in a few places. So far 4 CDs in
    this series have been released on Bridge; the nine concerti have five
    different conductors (this the only one with Montgomery). This seems
    highky promising; Presto quotes some very favorable reviews of various
    disks from ARG, Fanfare, etc.

    On youtube (with conductor Sebastian Lang-Lessing, who seems quite solid):
    K466 (i) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48cIfr8M5Lg
    K595 (i) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjm9L_9gGz0
    and at least several more movements I have not listened to.

    Also an interview/demo with her from a year ago (focusing on Bach and Prokofiev) rather interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LHYBgXg0OI

    --
    Al Eisner

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Gerard on Sun Feb 5 00:01:42 2023
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 3:36:11 AM UTC-8, Gerard wrote:
    Vivaldi: concertos (concerti con molti instrumenti) - titled "Il Mondo al rovescio".
    with Amandine Beyer and Gli Incogniti, harmonia mundi 2022

    Very nice. The "molti instrumenti" (or "molti strumenti") are mainly different woodwinds (including chalumeau, or salmoe), violins and sometimes a mandolin or horn or trumpet. The diversity makes this an agreeable program.
    These concertos are not the most popular Vivaldi works, but they have been recorded before quite a few times. Some of these concertos by Biondi, Pinnock, Savall, Goltz and a few others. More complete by Spinosi and the Ensemble Matheus, on Arion (
    disques Pierre Verany), on 2 disks - these are recommended for those who like more of this kind of concertos.

    The subtitle of this disk "concerti con molti instrumenti" however is not correct. There are a few concertos for solo instruments like violin of flute, or a concerto for 2 oboes. The real concerti con molti instrumenti -- and nothing but concerti con
    molti instrumenti -- can be found on the twofer by Spinosi and the Ensemble Matheus.

    Are the following singers singing the same lyrics? And if so, are the lyrics anywhere online?:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPWCvC9ZL0I

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Dx-lvd4Zo

    (For the following, start at 0:55):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pf_NYVMnB4

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Gerard on Sun Feb 5 01:26:49 2023
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 3:36:11 AM UTC-8, Gerard wrote:
    Vivaldi: concertos (concerti con molti instrumenti) - titled "Il Mondo al rovescio".
    with Amandine Beyer and Gli Incogniti, harmonia mundi 2022
    Very nice. The "molti instrumenti" (or "molti strumenti") are
    mainly different woodwinds (including chalumeau, or salmoe),
    violins and sometimes a mandolin or horn or trumpet. The
    diversity makes this an agreeable program. These concertos
    are not the most popular Vivaldi works, but they have been
    recorded before quite a few times. Some of these concertos
    by Biondi, Pinnock, Savall, Goltz and a few others. More complete
    by Spinosi and the Ensemble Matheus, on Arion (disques Pierre
    Verany), on 2 disks - these are recommended for those who like
    more of this kind of concertos.
    The subtitle of this disk "concerti con molti instrumenti" however
    is not correct. There are a few concertos for solo instruments like
    violin of flute, or a concerto for 2 oboes. The real concerti con molti instrumenti -- and nothing but concerti con molti instrumenti -- can
    be found on the twofer by Spinosi and the Ensemble Matheus.

    You seem to be listening to antique music most (all?) of the time!
    Why not try some Richard Strauss? What's wrong with you, man?

    dk

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  • From Herman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 5 02:19:42 2023
    Shut up. This is WAYLTL
    If Gerard wants to listen to relatively unfamiliar Vivaldi concertos rather than same old Chopin, it's his business.

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  • From Andrew Clarke@21:1/5 to Gerard on Sun Feb 5 04:56:28 2023
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 10:36:11 PM UTC+11, Gerard wrote:
    Vivaldi: concertos (concerti con molti instrumenti) - titled "Il Mondo al rovescio".
    with Amandine Beyer and Gli Incogniti, harmonia mundi 2022

    Very nice. The "molti instrumenti" (or "molti strumenti") are mainly different woodwinds (including chalumeau, or salmoe), violins and sometimes a mandolin or horn or trumpet. The diversity makes this an agreeable program.
    These concertos are not the most popular Vivaldi works, but they have been recorded before quite a few times. Some of these concertos by Biondi, Pinnock, Savall, Goltz and a few others. More complete by Spinosi and the Ensemble Matheus, on Arion (
    disques Pierre Verany), on 2 disks - these are recommended for those who like more of this kind of concertos.

    The subtitle of this disk "concerti con molti instrumenti" however is not correct. There are a few concertos for solo instruments like violin of flute, or a concerto for 2 oboes. The real concerti con molti instrumenti -- and nothing but concerti con
    molti instrumenti -- can be found on the twofer by Spinosi and the Ensemble Matheus.

    Verdi. Falstaff. Glyndebourne 2009, streaming on Glyndebourne Encore. The only individual I've ever heard of connected with this performance is the conductor, Vladimir Jurowski, but it's brilliant. The action takes place in a small provincial town in the
    Thames Valley ca. 1941 (there is a GI in the cast). Costumes and decor are wonderfully of the period. There is a painting of King George VI in Falstaff's tavern.

    The production was later revived with Laurent Naouri as the portly person, despite being the wrong shape, unless he's put on a bit in recent years ...

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

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  • From Gerard@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 5 05:25:55 2023
    Op zondag 5 februari 2023 om 11:19:45 UTC+1 schreef Herman:
    Shut up. This is WAYLTL
    If Gerard wants to listen to relatively unfamiliar Vivaldi concertos rather than same old Chopin, it's his business.

    Well, everybody here is free to write what he or she likes (according to that pool attendant), as long as it is about music played by HJ Lim of course.

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  • From Lewis Perin@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 5 21:03:18 2023
    Saturday night, Jeremy Denk in concert in New York: Schubert’s 4
    impromptus; 3 short pieces by Samuel Coleridge-Taylor, Blind Tom
    Wiggins, and Scott Joplin; Rzewski’s Winnsboro Cotton Mill Blues;
    Beethoven Op. 111.

    One of the things I like about Denk is his thoughtfulness, as in not
    doing things just because everyone else does them. At the end of
    Op. 111 he had the audience in the palm of his hand (certainly me!) The
    first thought that popped into my head after he finished was, “I hope he doesn’t play an encore, he should just let the mood sink in.” And
    that’s what he did, even though the applause went on for a few minutes.
    I don’t know for sure whether others in the audience felt the way I did,
    but there were lots of people standing and applauding and not putting on
    their coats; nobody shouted “encore!”

    /Lew
    ---
    Lew Perin / perin@acm.org
    https://babelcarp.org

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  • From Todd M. McComb@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 11 01:09:16 2023
    _The Basketweave Elegies_ by Peter Garland, a solo vibraphone cycle
    performed by William Winant.

    https://peteergarland-coldbluemusic.bandcamp.com/album/the-basketweave-elegies

    A sort of study in consonance.... (Winant is very well-known in
    some circles, but maybe not here. Garland was new to me. For those
    who wonder, I did not "find" this on Bandcamp originally. It was
    a promo from Naxos distribution.)

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  • From Notsure01@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 12 02:15:35 2023
    I've been continuing to go through my CD collection, to reacquaint
    myself with the less common works.

    I've now been listening to Varese - I'm not sure why he doesn't get a
    lot of mentions these days. I particularly enjoy Arcana - my imprint
    version was Martinon and the CSO, and I also listened to Chailly. But my favorite now is the earlier Boulez version with the NYP - this was the
    era where he achieved clarity but also expressiveness, while his DG
    remakes seem more routine.

    And I tried to appreciate Weinberg - I listened several times to the
    Chamber Symphony No. 1 - Misha Rachlevsky with the Kremlin Chamber
    Orchestra.

    The music seemed to be perfectly pleasant, but just not memorable. I've
    seen Weinberg mentioned as one of the "Big 3" of Soviet music but not
    sure yet about that...

    I don't know whether it is lowbrow or highbrow, and folks may raise an
    eyebrow about this, but I think the music from Candide is really great.
    I've long enjoyed the suite from Candide by the Minnesota Orchestra
    conducted by Eiji Oue, but I found another version that is even better: Orchestre Lamoureux with Yutaka Sado. It is just full of vigor and pizazz!

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  • From Herman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 12 00:01:49 2023
    After reading a review of a Midori solo recital at Carnegie Hall I listened to John Zorn's Passagen, for violin solo - a wild twelve minute piece. Zorn is originally a saxophonist, a NY downtown composer and performer.
    The violinist in this vid, Pauline Kim Harris is part of the violin duo String Noise.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6dLxe8mxr4

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 13 03:11:56 2023
    Messy Messiaen

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Mon Feb 13 08:05:59 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 12:01:44 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 3:36:11 AM UTC-8, Gerard wrote:
    Vivaldi: concertos (concerti con molti instrumenti) - titled "Il Mondo al rovescio".
    with Amandine Beyer and Gli Incogniti, harmonia mundi 2022

    Very nice. The "molti instrumenti" (or "molti strumenti") are mainly different woodwinds (including chalumeau, or salmoe), violins and sometimes a mandolin or horn or trumpet. The diversity makes this an agreeable program.
    These concertos are not the most popular Vivaldi works, but they have been recorded before quite a few times. Some of these concertos by Biondi, Pinnock, Savall, Goltz and a few others. More complete by Spinosi and the Ensemble Matheus, on Arion (
    disques Pierre Verany), on 2 disks - these are recommended for those who like more of this kind of concertos.

    The subtitle of this disk "concerti con molti instrumenti" however is not correct. There are a few concertos for solo instruments like violin of flute, or a concerto for 2 oboes. The real concerti con molti instrumenti -- and nothing but concerti con
    molti instrumenti -- can be found on the twofer by Spinosi and the Ensemble Matheus.
    Are the following singers singing the same lyrics? And if so, are the lyrics anywhere online?:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPWCvC9ZL0I

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Dx-lvd4Zo

    (For the following, start at 0:55):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pf_NYVMnB4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Aar_l2IpWA

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  • From Todd M. McComb@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 14 02:32:11 2023
    New double album on Ondine of Schubert piano trios (+ Arpeggione
    Sonata, etc.) by the Tetzlaffs & the late Lars Vogt....

    Enjoying the Eb Trio so far... one of my favorite pieces.

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  • From Peter@21:1/5 to Todd M. McComb on Tue Feb 14 17:14:55 2023
    I'd be interested in critical reactions, yours and others'. For completes, I have Florestan and Stuttgart, neither of which quite hit the spot for me. I've had limited exposure to Vogt; I saw him once in concert in a fairly intimate setting, and he
    came across as mannered. Shouldn't generalize from a single night though.

    The story behind completing the trio project is moving, and I wonder if the performances themselves convey it in some way.

    Peter

    On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:32:15 PM UTC-8, Todd M. McComb wrote:
    New double album on Ondine of Schubert piano trios (+ Arpeggione
    Sonata, etc.) by the Tetzlaffs & the late Lars Vogt....

    Enjoying the Eb Trio so far... one of my favorite pieces.

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  • From Todd M. McComb@21:1/5 to dormanp@gmail.com on Wed Feb 15 01:32:29 2023
    In article <f4ccc861-b82b-401c-981f-786ae1b58e3en@googlegroups.com>,
    Peter <dormanp@gmail.com> wrote:
    I'd be interested in critical reactions, yours and others'. For
    completes, I have Florestan and Stuttgart, neither of which quite hit
    the spot for me. I've had limited exposure to Vogt; I saw him once in >concert in a fairly intimate setting, and he came across as mannered. >Shouldn't generalize from a single night though.

    Well I've continued to enjoy it. I read the notes too -- where the
    Tetzlaffs talk about Vogt feeling unwell during the sessions, but
    not having been diagnosed yet, how he felt the Eb Trio was a
    big/summary sort of piece for him....

    Anyway, they do talk about him being an emotional guy, so your reaction
    is probably right....

    I recently re-surveyed the Brahms trios (including inquring here),
    and the Op.101 by this group was my favorite, so there's a clear
    precdent in my case, and a similar sort of sound....

    My reaction is quite positive, but it's only been a couple of
    hearings.

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  • From HT@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 17 07:18:35 2023
    The VOXBOX with the complete piano works by Saint-Saens. Performers Marylène Dosse and Annie Petit.
    The sound leaves much to be desired but most performances are as easy to listen to as the music.

    The études, at least some of them, sound far more modern than I expected from Duchable's and Piers Lane's versions.

    Does anyone know Annie d'Arco's set?

    Henk

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  • From Todd M. McComb@21:1/5 to dormanp@gmail.com on Fri Feb 17 18:25:43 2023
    In article <f4ccc861-b82b-401c-981f-786ae1b58e3en@googlegroups.com>,
    Peter <dormanp@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:32:15 PM UTC-8, Todd M. McComb wrote:
    New double album on Ondine of Schubert piano trios (+ Arpeggione
    Sonata, etc.) by the Tetzlaffs & the late Lars Vogt....
    Enjoying the Eb Trio so far... one of my favorite pieces.
    I'd be interested in critical reactions, yours and others'. For
    completes, I have Florestan and Stuttgart, neither of which quite hit
    the spot for me. I've had limited exposure to Vogt; I saw him once in >concert in a fairly intimate setting, and he came across as mannered. >Shouldn't generalize from a single night though.

    I guess no one else is interested? Nothing obvious to hate,
    perhaps....

    Anyway, it's a bit of a "rough" performance (& I'm just talking
    about the Eb here... liked the Op.99 performance well enough...
    Arpeggione I'd probably prefer more like a song cycle...), but I
    mean that in a good way. I've pretty much been resisting those
    smooth, Schenkerian, mid-20th century interpretations my whole
    life... not that I mean to condemn them, just that being born in
    the 1960s (young for this group, I suppose...), I've always wanted
    a different approach.... So I don't have old performances of any
    of the big Schubert pieces that I really love.... Anyway, Vogt &
    the Tetzlaffs... rough, bristling even, searing at times... tenderness
    too.... Still enjoying it overall. If one is looking for ideal
    fingerings or perfect articulation in every moment, there're things
    to fault here, though.... (Bend but don't break?)

    It gets to be way too easy to fault performances.... Anyway, it's
    also true that there're undoubtedly hundreds or thousands of
    performances of core repertory works such as this that I have not
    heard, which is one reason I don't dive into a discussion of
    individual performances with more enthusiasm. On the other hand,
    I'm comfortable saying what I enjoy.

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  • From Al Eisner@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 27 11:19:47 2023
    This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text,
    while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

    I've started to go systematically through the 8 CD's Kocsis recorded
    of Bartk piano music (about half-way so far). I'm impressed with
    how consistently interesting the music is (much like anything else
    by this composer), even the CD-length 80-piece "For Children" (new
    to me). (The only work I can do without is he 14-minute "First term
    at the piano", which is exactly as its title describes.) Soon:
    Mikrokosmos, which I've not listened to much of in the past.

    Available on an 8-CD Philips set and in the 26-CD Decca Kocsis Edition.

    What also amazes me is how little I've encountered most of the
    many great works in recitals.
    --
    Al Eisner

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