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  • HELL AND DAMNATION...

    From MELMOTH@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 30 09:24:51 2023
    https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/087995-001-A/orphee-aux-enfers/

    Delightful!...Jubilant!...What a staging!...
    LONG LIVE FRANCE!...

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  • From Andrew Clarke@21:1/5 to MELMOTH on Mon Jan 30 08:46:45 2023
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 7:24:57 PM UTC+11, MELMOTH wrote:
    https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/087995-001-A/orphee-aux-enfers/

    Delightful!...Jubilant!...What a staging!...
    LONG LIVE FRANCE!...

    "Cette video n'est pas disponible dans votre pays." Sadly, a large percentage of videos from Arte Concert cannot be seen in Australia, presumably for contractual reasons. It is all very frustrating. I shall have to make do with Natalie Dessay and Laurent
    Naouri. Vive la France, mort aux CGT etc.

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra
    who remembers the anti-Jupp'e demonstrations under Chirac and was also very glad when 1999 turned into 2000 because it made dates in French a whole lot easier ....

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  • From Mandryka@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 30 09:21:07 2023
    "Compositeurs français - Quatre siècles de musique française de Lully à Ravel." N'importe quoi, quid de Barraqué et de Machaut? De toute façon c'est pas accessible à Londres.

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to andrewc...@gmail.com on Mon Jan 30 11:07:37 2023
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 8:46:50 AM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 7:24:57 PM UTC+11, MELMOTH wrote:
    https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/087995-001-A/orphee-aux-enfers/

    Delightful!...Jubilant!...What a staging!...
    LONG LIVE FRANCE!...

    "Cette video n'est pas disponible dans votre pays." Sadly, a large percentage of
    videos from Arte Concert cannot be seen in Australia, presumably for contractual
    reasons. It is all very frustrating. I shall have to make do with Natalie Dessay and
    Laurent Naouri. Vive la France, mort aux CGT etc.

    Trivial problem easily solved. VPN yourself anywhere suitable.

    dk

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  • From Andrew Clarke@21:1/5 to dan....@gmail.com on Mon Jan 30 21:17:40 2023
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 6:07:40 AM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 8:46:50 AM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 7:24:57 PM UTC+11, MELMOTH wrote:
    https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/087995-001-A/orphee-aux-enfers/

    Delightful!...Jubilant!...What a staging!...
    LONG LIVE FRANCE!...

    "Cette video n'est pas disponible dans votre pays." Sadly, a large percentage of
    videos from Arte Concert cannot be seen in Australia, presumably for contractual
    reasons. It is all very frustrating. I shall have to make do with Natalie Dessay and
    Laurent Naouri. Vive la France, mort aux CGT etc.
    Trivial problem easily solved. VPN yourself anywhere suitable.

    dk

    Major problem. The Arte website was created by Alexandre and Julien of Bona Pagailles. The video of Lakme, which I was briefly able to access, is now marked as unavailable in my country even though my VPN is using a server in Paris. Some videos you can
    chromecast to your television, some you cannot, the latter being problematic when it comes to family viewing. Some videos you can download to the storage card on your phone, but so far I have been unable to find any files I have supposedly downloaded ...

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

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  • From Andrew Clarke@21:1/5 to MELMOTH on Mon Jan 30 21:21:00 2023
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 7:24:57 PM UTC+11, MELMOTH wrote:
    https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/087995-001-A/orphee-aux-enfers/

    Delightful!...Jubilant!...What a staging!...
    LONG LIVE FRANCE!...

    Malheureusement ce video 'n'est pas disponible a ce moment', selon Arte, meme par VPN ...

    Amicalement,

    Andrew Clarke
    rosbif australien

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to andrewc...@gmail.com on Mon Jan 30 21:58:20 2023
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:17:43 PM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 6:07:40 AM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 8:46:50 AM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 7:24:57 PM UTC+11, MELMOTH wrote:
    https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/087995-001-A/orphee-aux-enfers/

    Delightful!...Jubilant!...What a staging!...
    LONG LIVE FRANCE!...

    "Cette video n'est pas disponible dans votre pays." Sadly, a large percentage of
    videos from Arte Concert cannot be seen in Australia, presumably for contractual
    reasons. It is all very frustrating. I shall have to make do with Natalie Dessay and
    Laurent Naouri. Vive la France, mort aux CGT etc.
    Trivial problem easily solved. VPN yourself anywhere suitable.

    Major problem. The Arte website was created by Alexandre and Julien of Bona Pagailles.
    The video of Lakme, which I was briefly able to access, is now marked as unavailable in
    my country even though my VPN is using a server in Paris.

    Then one has to resort to a double VPN. NordVPN supports this feature.

    dk

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  • From Andrew Clarke@21:1/5 to dan....@gmail.com on Tue Jan 31 01:01:29 2023
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:58:23 PM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:17:43 PM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 6:07:40 AM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 8:46:50 AM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 7:24:57 PM UTC+11, MELMOTH wrote:
    https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/087995-001-A/orphee-aux-enfers/

    Delightful!...Jubilant!...What a staging!...
    LONG LIVE FRANCE!...

    "Cette video n'est pas disponible dans votre pays." Sadly, a large percentage of
    videos from Arte Concert cannot be seen in Australia, presumably for contractual
    reasons. It is all very frustrating. I shall have to make do with Natalie Dessay and
    Laurent Naouri. Vive la France, mort aux CGT etc.
    Trivial problem easily solved. VPN yourself anywhere suitable.

    Major problem. The Arte website was created by Alexandre and Julien of Bona Pagailles.
    The video of Lakme, which I was briefly able to access, is now marked as unavailable in
    my country even though my VPN is using a server in Paris.
    Then one has to resort to a double VPN. NordVPN supports this feature.

    dk

    Fortunately I have been able to install NordVPM on my Google Library/Chromecast device which means I don't have to worry as much about casting from my phone to the TV. So I've just been able to watch Lakhme with Sab and Raph, and very, very good it is
    too. Sadly, Arte is still telling me that Orphee dans les Enfers is'n available right now, although I can find it if I copy and paste the URL Melmoth posted into a browser. The whole thing is more than a little unpredictable, sadly, because there are
    some great things there. I shall have another go at trying to download those programmes that are downloadable ... except that I just have tried and this time I can't find the "Download" links, rogntudjuuuuuuuuu!

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra
    m'enfin ....

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to andrewc...@gmail.com on Tue Jan 31 01:05:18 2023
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 1:01:32 AM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:

    The whole thing is more than a little unpredictable,

    Software .....

    dk

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  • From Andrew Clarke@21:1/5 to MELMOTH on Wed Feb 1 05:15:46 2023
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 7:24:57 PM UTC+11, MELMOTH wrote:
    https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/087995-001-A/orphee-aux-enfers/

    Delightful!...Jubilant!...What a staging!...
    LONG LIVE FRANCE!...

    Grande reussite! j'ai telecharg'ee le bidule NordVPN sur mon ordinateur Fenetres Onze, et "Orpheo aux enfers" marche, et quant a mois, je suis aux pommes. Lea Desandre est partout maintenant .... Malheureusement, chez Android, le bidule encore ne marche
    pas pour cette realisation.

    Amicalement,

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

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  • From Andrew Clarke@21:1/5 to MELMOTH on Thu Feb 2 04:39:26 2023
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 7:24:57 PM UTC+11, MELMOTH wrote:
    https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/087995-001-A/orphee-aux-enfers/

    Delightful!...Jubilant!...What a staging!...
    LONG LIVE FRANCE!...

    Actually, France and Germany because the dialogues are in German while the arias are in French: the Arte subtitles are in French only, and I could not find any English subtitles. The production was by self-proclaimed gay Jewish kangaroo Barrie Kotsky,
    and quite a lot of this very German Expressionist production resembles a performance of "Lulu" into which bits of "Orphee aux enfers" have been spliced for comic effect ....

    I think, Melmoth, that this performance is not meant to be visible on Arte, which is not known for keeping videos available for a few months and this production originally appeared at the Salzberg Festival in 2019. This would explain why the Arte search
    engine said that it wasn't available. Perhaps it got stuck in a cache somewhere?

    But yes, brilliantly done.

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

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  • From Andrew Clarke@21:1/5 to Mandryka on Thu Feb 2 04:51:25 2023
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:21:09 AM UTC+11, Mandryka wrote:
    "Compositeurs français - Quatre siècles de musique française de Lully à Ravel." N'importe quoi, quid de Barraqué et de Machaut? De toute façon c'est pas accessible à Londres.

    C'est plus la, malheureusement. Il faut un VPN pour regarder la plupart d'Arte Concert. J'ai install'e NordVPN pour employer un server a Paris. Pour Lakme etc, sans probleme avec VPN. Autrement, ca ne marche pas.

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

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  • From Andrew Clarke@21:1/5 to Andrew Clarke on Thu Feb 2 14:26:12 2023
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 11:51:28 PM UTC+11, Andrew Clarke wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:21:09 AM UTC+11, Mandryka wrote:
    "Compositeurs français - Quatre siècles de musique française de Lully à Ravel." N'importe quoi, quid de Barraqué et de Machaut? De toute façon c'est pas accessible à Londres.
    C'est plus la, malheureusement. Il faut un VPN pour regarder la plupart d'Arte Concert. J'ai install'e NordVPN pour employer un server a Paris. Pour Lakme etc, sans probleme avec VPN. Autrement, ca ne marche pas.

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

    And now Orphee dans les Enfers / Orpheus in der Unterwelt have turned up on Arte, as has the list of Compositeurs français, but only if I use my Windows desktop or laptop. It remains irretrievable through the Android app.

    I do recommend Lakme.

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to andrewc...@gmail.com on Fri Feb 3 02:33:49 2023
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 2:26:15 PM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote

    I do recommend Lakme.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTG9oinUOGE

    dk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Fri Feb 3 03:16:16 2023
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 2:33:52 AM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 2:26:15 PM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote

    I do recommend Lakme.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTG9oinUOGE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzR1_nYESvE

    dk

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  • From number_six@21:1/5 to andrewc on Fri Feb 3 16:51:38 2023
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 2:26:15 PM UTC-8, andrewc wrote:
    I do recommend Lakme.

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

    Delibes it or not!

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  • From Andrew Clarke@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 3 19:30:15 2023
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 11:51:41 AM UTC+11, number_six wrote:
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 2:26:15 PM UTC-8, andrewc wrote:
    I do recommend Lakme.

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra
    Delibes it or not!

    Croreme is a hundred times better (I think) ...

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

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  • From number_six@21:1/5 to andrewc...@gmail.com on Sat Feb 4 21:06:12 2023
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 7:30:18 PM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 11:51:41 AM UTC+11, number_six wrote:
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 2:26:15 PM UTC-8, andrewc wrote:
    I do recommend Lakme.

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra
    Delibes it or not!
    Croreme is a hundred times better (I think) ...

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra
    Huh??
    Well Lakme up and throw away the key.

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 4 21:45:50 2023
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 9:06:14 PM UTC-8, number_six wrote:

    Well Lakme up and throw away the key.

    Looking for ways to be
    alone with a coloratura?

    dk

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  • From Andrew Clarke@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 5 01:44:11 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 4:06:14 PM UTC+11, number_six wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 7:30:18 PM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 11:51:41 AM UTC+11, number_six wrote:
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 2:26:15 PM UTC-8, andrewc wrote:
    I do recommend Lakme.

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra
    Delibes it or not!
    Croreme is a hundred times better (I think) ...

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra
    Huh??
    Well Lakme up and throw away the key.

    1 crore (10 million) = 100 lakh (10, 000) in the Indian numbering system, I think but I often get muddled.

    Hey lakh me over, lend me an ear ...

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

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  • From Andrew Clarke@21:1/5 to dan....@gmail.com on Sun Feb 5 01:47:34 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 4:45:53 PM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 9:06:14 PM UTC-8, number_six wrote:

    Well Lakme up and throw away the key.
    Looking for ways to be
    alone with a coloratura?

    dk

    In point of fact, Lakme (Sabine Devieilhe) arrives in a sort of cage in the production now showing in Arte. As I said, well worth watching.

    Her name rhymes with "ale" I've just discovered ...

    Andrew Clarke
    Canberra

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