Today I had a lot of fun listening to Hurwitz' 45 minute vid about Bruckner's 6th symphony. Some criticism on my part of Hurwitz's videos has occurred in the past, so it's no more than fair that I post a positive post on his work.the unorthodox opinion that nr 6 is not some kinky outlier in Bruckners symphonic oeuvre, but his structurally and musically most satisfying symphony of all.
The B6 appears to be a favorite of DH, as it is for me, and his enthusiasm is winning, and his singing is really something else this time around. I kind of liked his 'animal, vegetable, mineral' arranging of the thematic material. I fully concur with
I fully disagree with his weird choice of the New Zealand Symphony as the best recording (seriously?) but what does it matter. I have been a fan of Dresden in this symphony. The olde Eugen Jochum recording for EMI and the live Haitink from 2003 onProfil.
Today I had a lot of fun listening to Hurwitz' 45 minute vid about Bruckner's 6th symphony. Some criticism on my part of Hurwitz's videos has occurred in the past, so it's no more than fair that I post a positive post on his work.the unorthodox opinion that nr 6 is not some kinky outlier in Bruckners symphonic oeuvre, but his structurally and musically most satisfying symphony of all.
The B6 appears to be a favorite of DH, as it is for me, and his enthusiasm is winning, and his singing is really something else this time around. I kind of liked his 'animal, vegetable, mineral' arranging of the thematic material. I fully concur with
I fully disagree with his weird choice of the New Zealand Symphony as the best recording (seriously?) but what does it matter. I have been a fan of Dresden in this symphony. The olde Eugen Jochum recording for EMI and the live Haitink from 2003 onProfil.
Today I had a lot of fun listening to Hurwitz' 45 minute vid about Bruckner's 6th symphony. Some criticism on my part of Hurwitz's videos has occurred in the past, so it's no more than fair that I post a positive post on his work.the unorthodox opinion that nr 6 is not some kinky outlier in Bruckners symphonic oeuvre, but his structurally and musically most satisfying symphony of all.
The B6 appears to be a favorite of DH, as it is for me, and his enthusiasm is winning, and his singing is really something else this time around. I kind of liked his 'animal, vegetable, mineral' arranging of the thematic material. I fully concur with
I fully disagree with his weird choice of the New Zealand Symphony as the best recording (seriously?)
On 2023-01-15 10:19 a.m., Herman wrote:the unorthodox opinion that nr 6 is not some kinky outlier in Bruckners symphonic oeuvre, but his structurally and musically most satisfying symphony of all.
Today I had a lot of fun listening to Hurwitz' 45 minute vid about Bruckner's 6th symphony. Some criticism on my part of Hurwitz's videos has occurred in the past, so it's no more than fair that I post a positive post on his work.
The B6 appears to be a favorite of DH, as it is for me, and his enthusiasm is winning, and his singing is really something else this time around. I kind of liked his 'animal, vegetable, mineral' arranging of the thematic material. I fully concur with
I fully disagree with his weird choice of the New Zealand Symphony as the best recording (seriously?)
ISTR that Georg Tintner recorded all the Bruckner symphonies for Naxos
and they were generally favourably reviewed.
I fully disagree with his weird choice of the New Zealand Symphony
as the best recording (seriously?) but what does it matter. I have been
a fan of Dresden in this symphony. The olde Eugen Jochum recording
for EMI and the live Haitink from 2003 on Profil.
On 1/15/2023 5:27 PM, Graham wrote:
On 2023-01-15 10:19 a.m., Herman wrote:
Today I had a lot of fun listening to Hurwitz' 45 minute vid about
Bruckner's 6th symphony. Some criticism on my part of Hurwitz's
videos has occurred in the past, so it's no more than fair that I
post a positive post on his work.
The B6 appears to be a favorite of DH, as it is for me, and his
enthusiasm is winning, and his singing is really something else this
time around. I kind of liked his 'animal, vegetable, mineral'
arranging of the thematic material. I fully concur with the
unorthodox opinion that nr 6 is not some kinky outlier in Bruckners
symphonic oeuvre, but his structurally and musically most satisfying
symphony of all.
I fully disagree with his weird choice of the New Zealand Symphony as
the best recording (seriously?)
ISTR that Georg Tintner recorded all the Bruckner symphonies for Naxos
and they were generally favourably reviewed.
Not clear if you realize that the New Zealand recording recommended by Hurwitz is conducted by Tintner.
This recording appears to have been widely praised, Herman's casual
dismissal of the New Zealanders notwithstanding.
On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 9:19:31 AM UTC-8, Herman wrote:
I fully disagree with his weird choice of the New Zealand Symphony
as the best recording (seriously?) but what does it matter. I have been
a fan of Dresden in this symphony. The olde Eugen Jochum recording
for EMI and the live Haitink from 2003 on Profil.
Inbal + FRSO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxjVJTq-mUQ
Horenstein + LSO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tQJdy91jDk
Today I had a lot of fun listening to Hurwitz' 45 minute vid about Bruckner's 6th symphony. Some criticism on my part of Hurwitz's videos has occurred in the past, so it's no more than fair that I post a positive post on his work.Profil.
I fully disagree with his weird choice of the New Zealand Symphony as the best recording (seriously?) but what does it matter. I have been a fan of Dresden in this symphony. The olde Eugen Jochum recording for EMI and the live Haitink from 2003 on
Today I had a lot of fun listening to Hurwitz' 45 minute vid about Bruckner's 6th symphony. Some
criticism on my part of Hurwitz's videos has occurred in the past, so it's no more than fair that I post
a positive post on his work.
The B6 appears to be a favorite of DH, as it is for me, and his enthusiasm is winning, and his singing
is really something else this time around. I kind of liked his 'animal, vegetable, mineral' arranging of the
thematic material. I fully concur with the unorthodox opinion that nr 6 is not some kinky outlier in
Bruckners symphonic oeuvre, but his structurally and musically most satisfying symphony of all.
I fully disagree with his weird choice of the New Zealand Symphony as the best recording (seriously?)
but what does it matter. I have been a fan of Dresden in this symphony. The olde Eugen Jochum
recording for EMI and the live Haitink from 2003 on Profil.
And Klemperer + NPO if one can tolerate the outdated sound:
And Klemperer + NPO if one can tolerate the outdated sound:
Likewise Keilberth + BPO
On 1/16/23 1:36 AM, Christopher Howell wrote:
And Klemperer + NPO if one can tolerate the outdated sound:
Likewise Keilberth + BPO
Thanks, Mr Howell, for your uncommonly interesting essay on the 6th:
http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2018/Jan/Bruckner_sy6_article_CH.pdf
I was wondering if you have a favorite among more recent versions with better sound??
TIA
And Klemperer + NPO if one can tolerate the outdated sound:
Likewise Keilberth + BPO
Haitink, BRSO, 2017, live recording on BR-Klassik works for me.
http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2017/Nov/Bruckner_sy6_900147.htm
CD seems to be available.
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:43:56 AM UTC-8, Frank Berger wrote:
Haitink, BRSO, 2017, live recording on BR-Klassik works for me.
http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2017/Nov/Bruckner_sy6_900147.htm
CD seems to be available.
"Live" ?!? What part of Bernie was ever "live"?
Here is a live Bruckner 6 for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lJSFukezEw
Op maandag 16 januari 2023 om 23:30:07 UTC+1 schreef dan....gmail.com:that added some jazzy elements. It sounded the way I imagine Haggis must taste.
Here is a live Bruckner 6 for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lJSFukezEwModern arrangers and composers have a talent for making the bad sound even worse. Dutch classical radio has a rubric where artists are invited to create a new version of a famous piece. Today it was Schumann's 'Traumerei', played by a string ensemble
BTW, this Bruckner 6 is even worse.
Henk
Henk
Bruckner is the anti-matter particle of
the jazz particle. They do not co-exist.
Op maandag 16 januari 2023 om 23:30:07 UTC+1 schreef dan....@gmail.com:
Here is a live Bruckner 6 for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lJSFukezEw
Modern arrangers and composers have a talent for
making the bad sound even worse. Dutch classical
radio has a rubric where artists are invited to create
a new version of a famous piece. Today it was
Schumann's 'Traumerei', played by a string
ensemble that added some jazzy elements.
It sounded the way I imagine Haggis must
taste.
BTW, this Bruckner 6 is even worse.
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 3:43:23 PM UTC-8, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
Bruckner is the anti-matter particle of
the jazz particle. They do not co-exist.
But they can produce exciting explosions!
"Live" ?!? What part of Bernie was ever "live"?
dk
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:00:34 PM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 3:43:23 PM UTC-8, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
Bruckner is the anti-matter particle of
the jazz particle. They do not co-exist.
But they can produce exciting explosions!
https://www.abruckner.com/store/abrucknercomexclus/exclusiveandhardto/symphonies-5--7-jazz-arrangements--thomas-mandel--/
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:27:52 PM UTC+1, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
"Live" ?!? What part of Bernie was ever "live"?
You know NOTHING.
Hatink recorded several exciting Bruckner 6ths.
One with the Dresden, and one with the BRSO.
If you have never seen him in live concert,
just shut the fuck up, you ignorant racist
moron.
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 3:43:23 PM UTC-8, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
Bruckner is the anti-matter particle of
the jazz particle. They do not co-exist.
But they can produce exciting explosions!
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:00:34 PM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 3:43:23 PM UTC-8, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
Bruckner is the anti-matter particle of
the jazz particle. They do not co-exist.
But they can produce exciting explosions!
https://www.abruckner.com/editorsnote/features/breakdown/
On 1/16/2023 9:15 PM, Frank Berger wrote:
On 1/16/2023 8:41 PM, Herman wrote:
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:27:52 PM UTC+1, dan....@gmail.com wrote: >>
"Live" ?!? What part of Bernie was ever "live"?
You know NOTHING.
Hatink recorded several exciting Bruckner 6ths.
One with the Dresden, and one with the BRSO.
If you have never seen him in live concert, just
shut the fuck up, you ignorant racist moron.
Please explain your remark that because everyone
in Israel is Jewish (which isn't remotely true, anyway)
that there is no diversity there.
Never mind, that was Gerard's remark.
Perhaps he will explain it. I often have
trouble telling the two of you apart.
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:27:52 PM UTC+1, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
"Live" ?!? What part of Bernie was ever "live"?
dk
You know NOTHING.
Hatink recorded several exciting Bruckner 6ths.
One with the Dresden, and one with the BRSO.
If you have never seen him in live concert, just shut the fuck up, you ignorant racist moron.
On 1/16/2023 8:41 PM, Herman wrote:
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:27:52 PM UTC+1, dan....@gmail.com wrote: >>
"Live" ?!? What part of Bernie was ever "live"?
dk
You know NOTHING.
Hatink recorded several exciting Bruckner 6ths.
One with the Dresden, and one with the BRSO.
If you have never seen him in live concert, just shut the fuck up, you ignorant racist moron.
Please explain your remark that because everyone in Israel is Jewish (which isn't remotely true, anyway) that there is no diversity there.
Please explain your remark that because everyone in Israel is Jewish (which isn't remotely true, anyway) that there is no diversity there.
I often have trouble telling the two of you apart.
On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 3:16:06 AM UTC+1, Frank Berger wrote:
Please explain your remark that because everyone in Israel is Jewish (which isn't remotely true, anyway) that there is no diversity there.Frank, is it okay with you if this topic is not about Israel, but rather about Bruckner?
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If you have never seen him in live concert,I have. He was even more boring than HB.
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:27:52 PM UTC+1, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
"Live" ?!? What part of Bernie was ever "live"?
dkYou know NOTHING.
Hatink recorded several exciting Bruckner 6ths.
One with the Dresden, and one with the BRSO.
If you have never seen him in live concert, just shut the fuck up, you ignorant racist moron.
there was this time you were boasting about
two concerts on different continents you were
attending simultaneously...
I was wondering if you have a favorite among more recent versions with
better sound??
TIA
Have you ever tried some? Or just speculating?
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:41:25 PM UTC-8, Herman wrote:
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:27:52 PM UTC+1, dan....@gmail.com wrote: >>
"Live" ?!? What part of Bernie was ever "live"?
You know NOTHING.
Same as you.
Hatink recorded several exciting Bruckner 6ths.
Exciting to whom?
One with the Dresden, and one with the BRSO.
I am well aware.
If you have never seen him in live concert,
I have. He was even more boring than HB.
just shut the fuck up, you ignorant racist
moron.
You do too.
dk
On Mon, 16 Jan 2023, Dan Koren wrote:
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:41:25 PM UTC-8, Herman wrote:
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:27:52 PM UTC+1, dan....@gmail.com wrote: >>>
"Live" ?!? What part of Bernie was ever "live"?
You know NOTHING.
Same as you.
Hatink recorded several exciting Bruckner 6ths.
Exciting to whom?
One with the Dresden, and one with the BRSO.
I am well aware.
If you have never seen him in live concert,
I have. He was even more boring than HB.
just shut the fuck up, you ignorant racist
moron.
You do too.
dk
The "conversations" between Dan and Herman somehow remind me of the
early-SNL Point/Counterpoint segment with Jane Curtin and Dan Aykroyd.
A sort of self-parody, amusing but not particularly enlightening.
On Mon, 16 Jan 2023, Dan Koren wrote:
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:41:25 PM UTC-8, Herman wrote:
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:27:52 PM UTC+1, dan....@gmail.com wrote: >>>
"Live" ?!? What part of Bernie was ever "live"?
You know NOTHING.
Same as you.
Hatink recorded several exciting Bruckner 6ths.
Exciting to whom?
One with the Dresden, and one with the BRSO.
I am well aware.
If you have never seen him in live concert,
I have. He was even more boring than HB.
just shut the fuck up, you ignorant racist
moron.
You do too.
dk
The "conversations" between Dan and Herman somehow remind me of the
early-SNL Point/Counterpoint segment with Jane Curtin and Dan Aykroyd.
A sort of self-parody, amusing but not particularly enlightening.
The "conversations" between Dan and Herman somehow remind me of
the early-SNL Point/Counterpoint segment with Jane Curtin and Dan
Aykroyd. A sort of self-parody, amusing but not particularly
enlightening.
i.e. Herman is becoming more
like DK. (I told him it rubs off!)
Not a chance. No one can "become
more" like me -- I am unique! ;-)
The problem is that Dan called Herman an antisemite. Rather than just deny it and explain away whatever he said that caused Dan to label him such, Herman went psychotic.
On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 11:55:04 PM UTC+1, Frank Berger wrote:
The problem is that Dan called Herman an antisemite. Rather than just deny it and explain away whatever he said that caused Dan to label him such, Herman went psychotic.
Frank, at first I did not respond. Fact.
Only when DK started turning it into a campaign, and when his lil acolyte Marc joined in, I responded.
And you indeed said something to the tune of, well, we'll have to look into this. Maybe DK's got a point.
There is no "explaining away" when you're being called an antisemite just for saying one admiring thing about a non-Jewish violinist.
When I said I admired the Juilliard's violist Rapheael Hillyer very much, the response was this was anti-semitic, too, because he played the viola.
There is no arguing with an out and out racist.
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