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  • Dorati in Detroit - Complete Decca Recordings

    From Jon Bell@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 14 08:36:36 2023
    I just came across this on Presto Music. Available for pre-order, release on January 20.

    https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/9396296--dorati-in-detroit-complete-decca-recordings

    Decca Classics lists the contents of the 18 CDs.

    https://store.deccaclassics.com/*/Box-Sets/Dor-ti-in-Detroit-Complete-Decca-Recordings/7ODF16YX000

    Looks like they mirror the original releases, with original artwork, as is the custom nowadays.

    I was in nearby Ann Arbor during most of Dorati's time in Detroit, so I bought all these recordings as they came out, mostly on cassettes. Later I replaced them with CDs, except for the "Rhapsody!" album (CD2) which as far as I know was never reissued as-
    is on CD. I digitized the cassette 23 years ago. Two of its items (Dvorak and Enescu) are on an Eloquence "Bohemian Rhapsody" set, but I have not seen the Ravel and Liszt on CD anywhere.

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  • From mswdesign@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 14 09:33:16 2023
    I was just discussing this with a friend and we (modern shoppers we be) thought the price a bit steep for 18 CDs. What about the contents? I've found his Decca Detroit recordings not really as interesting as Mercury when I've had a chance to compare. But
    I haven't had many chances. What I really want is a chance to grab his Haydn cycle. And a Mercury box would be tempting.

    Any other opinions on how attractive this material is?

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  • From MELMOTH@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 14 20:21:41 2023
    Le 14/01/2023, mswd...@gmail.com a supposé :
    I was just discussing this with a friend and we (modern shoppers we be) thought the price a bit steep for 18 CDs. What about the contents? I've found his Decca Detroit recordings not really as interesting as Mercury when I've had a chance to compare. But I haven't had many chances. What I really want is a chance to grab his Haydn cycle. And a Mercury box would be tempting.

    Any other opinions on how attractive this material is?

    I have almost all the Dorati recordings (especially Mercury and
    Decca)...
    Personally, I have always preferred the Mercury versions...But that's
    just my choice !...

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  • From MELMOTH@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 14 20:25:13 2023
    MELMOTH avait écrit le 14/01/2023 :
    Any other opinions on how attractive this material is?

    I have almost all the Dorati recordings (especially Mercury and Decca)... Personally, I have always preferred the Mercury versions...But that's just my choice !...

    But for Haydn, of course, the complete symphonies and operas can be
    found on Decca...Even if I think that his vision of the symphonies has
    aged well...

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  • From mswdesign@gmail.com@21:1/5 to MELMOTH on Sat Jan 14 12:25:33 2023
    On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 1:25:16 PM UTC-6, MELMOTH wrote:
    But for Haydn, of course, the complete symphonies and operas can be
    found on Decca...Even if I think that his vision of the symphonies has
    aged well...

    The Haydn symphonies are out of print and I'm not paying $300 for them. https://www.amazon.com/Haydn-Symphonies-Joseph/dp/B0000042DP/ref=sr_1_3?crid=24JBBD2AHV5Y8&keywords=dorati+haydn&qid=1673727880&sprefix=dorati%2520haydn%2Caps%2C94&sr=8-3

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  • From raymond.hallbear1@gmail.com@21:1/5 to MELMOTH on Sat Jan 14 13:18:04 2023
    On Sunday, 15 January 2023 at 06:25:16 UTC+11, MELMOTH wrote:
    MELMOTH avait écrit le 14/01/2023 :
    Any other opinions on how attractive this material is?

    I have almost all the Dorati recordings (especially Mercury and Decca)... Personally, I have always preferred the Mercury versions...But that's just my
    choice !...
    But for Haydn, of course, the complete symphonies and operas can be
    found on Decca...Even if I think that his vision of the symphonies has
    aged well...

    ??
    Did you mean has NOT aged well?

    Ray Hall, Taree

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to MELMOTH on Sat Jan 14 14:22:30 2023
    On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 2:19:52 PM UTC-8, MELMOTH wrote:
    raymond....@gmail.com a écrit :
    ??
    Did you mean has NOT aged well?
    Yes, of course !...

    Strategic ambiguity?

    dk

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  • From MELMOTH@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 14 23:19:47 2023
    raymond....@gmail.com a écrit :
    ??
    Did you mean has NOT aged well?

    Yes, of course !...

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  • From Bob Harper@21:1/5 to raymond....@gmail.com on Mon Jan 16 10:41:34 2023
    On 1/14/23 1:18 PM, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, 15 January 2023 at 06:25:16 UTC+11, MELMOTH wrote:
    MELMOTH avait écrit le 14/01/2023 :
    Any other opinions on how attractive this material is?

    I have almost all the Dorati recordings (especially Mercury and Decca)... >>> Personally, I have always preferred the Mercury versions...But that's just my
    choice !...
    But for Haydn, of course, the complete symphonies and operas can be
    found on Decca...Even if I think that his vision of the symphonies has
    aged well...

    ??
    Did you mean has NOT aged well?

    Ray Hall, Taree

    I suppose it hasn't, but I have yet to hear a version of #64 that is as satisfying to me as the Dorati.

    Bob Harper

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  • From Lawrence Chalmers@21:1/5 to Bob Harper on Mon Jan 16 11:35:41 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:41:39 AM UTC-8, Bob Harper wrote:
    On 1/14/23 1:18 PM, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, 15 January 2023 at 06:25:16 UTC+11, MELMOTH wrote:
    MELMOTH avait écrit le 14/01/2023 :
    Any other opinions on how attractive this material is?

    I have almost all the Dorati recordings (especially Mercury and Decca)...
    Personally, I have always preferred the Mercury versions...But that's just my
    choice !...
    But for Haydn, of course, the complete symphonies and operas can be
    found on Decca...Even if I think that his vision of the symphonies has
    aged well...

    ??
    Did you mean has NOT aged well?

    Ray Hall, Taree
    I suppose it hasn't, but I have yet to hear a version of #64 that is as satisfying to me as the Dorati.

    Bob Harper

    Eloquence is releasing his Mono and Stereo Mercury boxes pretty soon.

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  • From Jon Bell@21:1/5 to Jon Bell on Thu Jan 19 16:06:30 2023
    On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:36:39 AM UTC-5, Jon Bell wrote:
    I just came across this on Presto Music. Available for pre-order, release on January 20.

    Now Presto says February 3. And they raised their price from $87.50 to $90, which is still a lot better than Amazon's $147.

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  • From Frank Berger@21:1/5 to Jon Bell on Thu Jan 19 20:24:52 2023
    On 1/19/2023 7:06 PM, Jon Bell wrote:
    On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:36:39 AM UTC-5, Jon Bell wrote:
    I just came across this on Presto Music. Available for pre-order, release on January 20.

    Now Presto says February 3. And they raised their price from $87.50 to $90, which is still a lot better than Amazon's $147.

    FWIW, Europa disk has it listed for $79.80 plus about $8 shipping to the U.S. That's $15 less than Presto. I've ordered several times without problem from Europdisc.

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  • From furrybear57@21:1/5 to Frank Berger on Sun Jan 22 19:56:19 2023
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 7:25:00 PM UTC-6, Frank Berger wrote:
    On 1/19/2023 7:06 PM, Jon Bell wrote:
    On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:36:39 AM UTC-5, Jon Bell wrote:
    I just came across this on Presto Music. Available for pre-order, release on January 20.

    Now Presto says February 3. And they raised their price from $87.50 to $90, which is still a lot better than Amazon's $147.
    FWIW, Europa disk has it listed for $79.80 plus about $8 shipping to the U.S. That's $15 less than Presto. I've ordered several times without problem from Europdisc.


    Thank you Europadisc!!

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