https://www.dropbox.com/s/8vlkyw909z5jgr6/Here%20Comes%20Mephisto%21.mp3?dl=0Holy jumping J.C. What power. And intense involvement in the piece as music, not as a vehicle for display.
What do you think?
dk
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 12:48:35 PM UTC-6, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8vlkyw909z5jgr6/Here%20Comes%20Mephisto%21.mp3?dl=0
What do you think?
Holy jumping J.C. What power. And intense involvement
in the piece as music, not as a vehicle for display.
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 7:57:14 PM UTC-8, ljk...@aol.com wrote:
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 12:48:35 PM UTC-6, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8vlkyw909z5jgr6/Here%20Comes%20Mephisto%21.mp3?dl=0
What do you think?
Holy jumping J.C. What power. And intense involvement
in the piece as music, not as a vehicle for display.
BTW this is the Busoni version.
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 12:48:35 PM UTC-6, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8vlkyw909z5jgr6/Here%20Comes%20Mephisto%21.mp3?dl=0
What do you think?
Holy jumping J.C. What power. And intense involvement
in the piece as music, not as a vehicle for display.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8vlkyw909z5jgr6/Here%20Comes%20Mephisto%21.mp3?dl=0
What do you think?
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 2:12:04 AM UTC-8, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
Op woensdag 11 januari 2023 om 19:48:35 UTC+1 schreef dan....@gmail.com:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8vlkyw909z5jgr6/Here%20Comes%20Mephisto%21.mp3?dl=0
What do you think?
A not so clean performance of one of Busoni's less successful transcriptions.
The performer seems to be carried away by her own performance, that's what makes this version of the Dance in the Village Inn interesting.
?!? "her" ?!?
Op woensdag 11 januari 2023 om 19:48:35 UTC+1 schreef dan....@gmail.com:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8vlkyw909z5jgr6/Here%20Comes%20Mephisto%21.mp3?dl=0
What do you think?
A not so clean performance of one of Busoni's less successful transcriptions. The performer seems to be carried away by her own performance, that's what makes this version of the Dance in the Village Inn interesting.
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 2:29:15 AM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 2:12:04 AM UTC-8, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
Op woensdag 11 januari 2023 om 19:48:35 UTC+1 schreef dan....@gmail.com:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8vlkyw909z5jgr6/Here%20Comes%20Mephisto%21.mp3?dl=0
What do you think?
A not so clean performance of one of Busoni's less successful transcriptions.
The performer seems to be carried away by her own performance, that's what
makes this version of the Dance in the Village Inn interesting.
?!? "her" ?!?"Not so clean" for a live performance ?!?
Do you know anyone besides Volodos
who could play it "cleanly" in front of
a live audience?
dl
Threads like this one remind me, for some reason, of a bullfighter waving a big red cape. Then when the bull runs toward the cape the waver sticks a spear into the bull
Do you know anyone besides Volodos
who could play it "cleanly" in front of
a live audience?
?!? "her" ?!?
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 5:37:19 AM UTC-5, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 2:29:15 AM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 2:12:04 AM UTC-8, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
Op woensdag 11 januari 2023 om 19:48:35 UTC+1 schreef dan....@gmail.com:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8vlkyw909z5jgr6/Here%20Comes%20Mephisto%21.mp3?dl=0
What do you think?
A not so clean performance of one of Busoni's less successful transcriptions.
The performer seems to be carried away by her own performance, that's what
makes this version of the Dance in the Village Inn interesting.
?!? "her" ?!?"Not so clean" for a live performance ?!?
Do you know anyone besides Volodos
who could play it "cleanly" in front of
a live audience?
dlThreads like this one remind me, for some reason, of a bullfighter waving a big red cape. Then when the bull runs toward the cape the waver sticks a spear into the bull.
Do you know anyone besides VolodosI don't know anyone who would play this version. The original is far better, imho.
who could play it "cleanly" in front of
a live audience?
Henk
Henk, as usual, you don't address the points made - be it Dan, Frank or myself etc.
Do you know anyone besides VolodosI don't know anyone who would play this version. The original is far better, imho.
who could play it "cleanly" in front of
a live audience?
Henk
We need a point of reference for your nonsense.
hvt...@xs4all.nl schrieb am Donnerstag, 12. Januar 2023 um 13:15:49 UTC+1:
Do you know anyone besides VolodosI don't know anyone who would play this version. The original is far better, imho.
who could play it "cleanly" in front of
a live audience?
HenkSince you made the point that it wasn't played cleanly, how about you list some live performances that made you think that this performance wasn't cleany played.
We need a point of reference for your nonsense.
We need a point of reference for your nonsense.Isn't that a contradiction?
Henk
We need a point of reference for your nonsense.Isn't that a contradiction?
Henk
Marc S schrieb am Donnerstag, 12. Januar 2023 um 13:39:21 UTC+1:self righteous, lacking in self awareness etc.
hvt...@xs4all.nl schrieb am Donnerstag, 12. Januar 2023 um 13:15:49 UTC+1:
Do you know anyone besides VolodosI don't know anyone who would play this version. The original is far better, imho.
who could play it "cleanly" in front of
a live audience?
HenkSince you made the point that it wasn't played cleanly, how about you list some live performances that made you think that this performance wasn't cleany played.
We need a point of reference for your nonsense.*a point of reference to decide whether your point has any value.
I am not interested anyway, since I don't care for this piece. But oh god... is this place populated by absolute idiots (Dan, Frank, Bob and Oscar are the only ones I can think of right now, that are in one way or the other reasonable)... smug guys,
self righteous, lacking in self awareness etc.I am not interested anyway, since I don't care for this piece. But oh god... is this place populated by absolute idiots (Dan, Frank, Bob and Oscar are the only ones I can think of right now, that are in one way or the other reasonable)... smug guys,
*count mswd among Dan etc ;D forgot about him
Op donderdag 12 januari 2023 om 11:29:15 UTC+1 schreef dan....@gmail.com:
?!? "her" ?!?
<g> I thought I recognized 'her' performance. My mistake.
Henk
Do you know anyone besides VolodosI don't know anyone who would play this version. The original is far better, imho.
who could play it "cleanly" in front of
a live audience?
Henk
I still think though, that in some cases you have a smug attitude (wrt to Israel and Antisemitism etc) and I really have a problem with such attitude.
self righteous, lacking in self awareness etc.I am not interested anyway, since I don't care for this piece. But oh god... is this place populated by absolute idiots (Dan, Frank, Bob and Oscar are the only ones I can think of right now, that are in one way or the other reasonable)... smug guys,
*count mswd among Dan etc ;D forgot about himI'll leave it to you to decide whether this version is clearer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlRFj_OjUEU
Henk
On 2023-01-12 12:28:05 +0000, HT said:
Op donderdag 12 januari 2023 om 11:29:15 UTC+1 schreef dan....@gmail.com:
?!? "her" ?!?
<g> I thought I recognized 'her' performance. My mistake.
HenkThere was a time where, if the gender of some unknown or hypothetical
person were to be mentioned, they would use 'she/her' instead of the 'he/him' to raise awareness of toxic patriarchy.
That seems to be passé now, with adoption of "preferred pronouns," and perhaps neutral pronouns, so, I suppose, Henk should have said: I
thought I recognized 'its' performance.
-Owen, Gender Police.
I still think though, that in some cases you have a smug attitude (wrt to Israel and Antisemitism etc) and I really have a problem with such attitude.
I appreciate that you have whittled down your objections to these points. We'll speak to each other again, later, in another thread - perhaps?
Henk
Do you know anyone besides Volodos
who could play it "cleanly" in front of
a live audience?
I don't know anyone who would play this
version. The original is far better, imho.
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 4:15:49 AM UTC-8, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
Do you know anyone besides Volodos
who could play it "cleanly" in front of
a live audience?
I don't know anyone who would play thisIMHO Busoni's version has dimensions
version. The original is far better, imho.
the original does not. It sounds more
"orchestral" than the original to my ears.
Egon Petri and Gunnar Johansen used to
perform the Busoni version, and Horowitz
made his own version of it, which I do not
like as much as the one I posted earlier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsuauWuh_nI
There is another version derived from
the Busoni version by Leonid Egorov.
Here is a link to a better recording of
the Horowitz version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um1OmSQi_P4
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