From The Guardian article cited in orig. post:west. Barenboim said the move would “not destroy the building … but the people inside”, as well as the Staatskapelle’s unique sound developed under its former artistic director Richard Strauss.
<< [Barenboim] also built a reputation as a staunch defender of culture in Germany, fighting politicians tooth and nail on many occasions – most notably opposing a threat to merge the Staatsoper in the east of Berlin with the Deutsche Oper in the
He described that sound as being “based on a set of values that have gone slightly out of fashion today … of harmony [and] legato, over the values of brilliance … a more spiritual and less athletic way of playing.”
On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:11:10 PM UTC-8, Oscar wrote:west. Barenboim said the move would “not destroy the building … but the people inside”, as well as the Staatskapelle’s unique sound developed under its former artistic director Richard Strauss.
From The Guardian article cited in orig. post:
<< [Barenboim] also built a reputation as a staunch defender of culture in Germany, fighting politicians tooth and nail on many occasions – most notably opposing a threat to merge the Staatsoper in the east of Berlin with the Deutsche Oper in the
He described that sound as being “based on a set of values that have gone slightly out of fashion today … of harmony [and] legato, over the values of brilliance … a more spiritual and less athletic way of playing.”Is there any historical recording, or better yet, Youtube upload where one can hear that?
When he says "brilliance", is he criticizing Karajan?
On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:11:10 PM UTC-8, Oscar wrote:west. Barenboim said the move would “not destroy the building … but the people inside”, as well as the Staatskapelle’s unique sound developed under its former artistic director Richard Strauss.
From The Guardian article cited in orig. post:
<< [Barenboim] also built a reputation as a staunch defender of culture in Germany, fighting politicians tooth and nail on many occasions – most notably opposing a threat to merge the Staatsoper in the east of Berlin with the Deutsche Oper in the
He described that sound as being “based on a set of values that have gone slightly out of fashion today … of harmony [and] legato, over the values of brilliance … a more spiritual and less athletic way of playing.”Is there any historical recording, or better yet, Youtube upload where one can hear that?
When he says "brilliance", is he criticizing Karajan?
From The Guardian article cited in orig. post:west. Barenboim said the move would “not destroy the building … but the people inside”, as well as the Staatskapelle’s unique sound developed under its former artistic director Richard Strauss.
<< [Barenboim] also built a reputation as a staunch defender of culture in Germany, fighting politicians tooth and nail on many occasions – most notably opposing a threat to merge the Staatsoper in the east of Berlin with the Deutsche Oper in the
He described that sound as being “based on a set of values that have gone slightly out of fashion today … of harmony [and] legato, over the values of brilliance … a more spiritual and less athletic way of playing.”same way western Germans had taken over companies, universities and almost every other aspect of the former German Democratic Republic. In the end he won the fight. >>
In an interview with the Guardian in 2000, an incandescent Barenboim said politicians who backed the merger were carrying out nothing less than a “western takeover” of the Staatsoper, one of east Germany’s most valuable cultural assets, in the
Amen.
Why is this even a topic here? Barenboim was no musician, he was a palestinian politician ;)
Op zondag 8 januari 2023 om 07:49:10 UTC+1 schreef Marc S:Israeli or Palestinian.
Why is this even a topic here? Barenboim was no musician, he was a palestinian politician ;)
Maybe it's a good thing we don't have a moderator. We can now read both Ray's and Marc's post. And I can state that Barenboim is a great musician (albeit not a great pianist) with an impressive track record and more common sense than most politicians,
Henk
Op 2023-01-08 om 13:28 schreef HT:Israeli or Palestinian.
Op zondag 8 januari 2023 om 07:49:10 UTC+1 schreef Marc S:
Why is this even a topic here? Barenboim was no musician, he was a palestinian politician ;)
Maybe it's a good thing we don't have a moderator. We can now read both Ray's and Marc's post. And I can state that Barenboim is a great musician (albeit not a great pianist) with an impressive track record and more common sense than most politicians,
HenkThere is nothing wrong with Ray's post !
Op zondag 8 januari 2023 om 16:20:04 UTC+1 schreef Gerard:Israeli or Palestinian.
Op 2023-01-08 om 13:28 schreef HT:
Op zondag 8 januari 2023 om 07:49:10 UTC+1 schreef Marc S:
Why is this even a topic here? Barenboim was no musician, he was a palestinian politician ;)
Maybe it's a good thing we don't have a moderator. We can now read both Ray's and Marc's post. And I can state that Barenboim is a great musician (albeit not a great pianist) with an impressive track record and more common sense than most politicians,
There is nothing wrong with Ray's post !
Henk
There is also nothing wrong with Marc's post. He is free to post whatever he wants on RMCR.
Like you, I find it obvious that Ray should mention Barenboim's farewell. He is one of the giants in the world of classical music.
That some hate him for being an advocate of reconciliation and peace is indicative of these times.
Henk
I can state that Barenboim is a great musician (albeit not
a great pianist) with an impressive track record and more
common sense than most politicians, Israeli or Palestinian.
Wow! No one saw fit to reply to Mr. Hall's post? This is big news.
No one hates him for advocating reconciliation and peace. One could characterize his politics as advocating existential Israeli concessions to the Palestinians. It has nothing to do with hate.
No one hates him for advocating reconciliation and peace. One could characterize his politics as advocating existential Israeli concessions to the Palestinians. It has nothing to do with hate.
You may be right. The actual situation looks promising. The West Bank is up for grabs, no matter what Jordan and the UN say. Materially, Israel has nothing to gain from peace and much to lose.
Henk
On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 4:28:09 AM UTC-8, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
Boringboim conducted the worst La Mer I ever heard, in a
venue that was perfect in every respect:
https://embassies.gov.il/london/culture/IsraeliCulture/Music/Pages/The-Roman-Theater-of-Caesarea.aspx
From The Guardian article cited in orig. post:west. Barenboim said the move would “not destroy the building … but the people inside”, as well as the Staatskapelle’s unique sound developed under its former artistic director Richard Strauss.
<< [Barenboim] also built a reputation as a staunch defender of culture in Germany, fighting politicians tooth and nail on many occasions – most notably opposing a threat to merge the Staatsoper in the east of Berlin with the Deutsche Oper in the
He described that sound as being “based on a set of values that have gone slightly out of fashion today … of harmony [and] legato, over the values of brilliance … a more spiritual and less athletic way of playing.”same way western Germans had taken over companies, universities and almost every other aspect of the former German Democratic Republic. In the end he won the fight. >>
In an interview with the Guardian in 2000, an incandescent Barenboim said politicians who backed the merger were carrying out nothing less than a “western takeover” of the Staatsoper, one of east Germany’s most valuable cultural assets, in the
Amen.Wasn't DB infamous for leading the IP in a piece by Wagner against their wishes?
The Left (including the Israeli Left) is hypnotized or brainwashed or something into thinking that all Israel has to do vacate the WB and
peace will reign. I can't even imagine how anyone could think that.
On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 1:33:38 PM UTC-8, Frank Berger wrote:
The Left (including the Israeli Left) is hypnotized or brainwashed or
something into thinking that all Israel has to do vacate the WB and
peace will reign. I can't even imagine how anyone could think that.
There is no single instance of multiple religions living peacefully
side by side within the boundaries of a single nation in Asia or in
the Middle East. Sectarian violence is wide spread from Egypt to
Lebanon to Syria to Iraq to Pakistan to India to Bangladesh to
Myanmar to Thailand to Malaysia to Indonesia. Separating the
Muslim from the Hindus in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh did
not remove sectarial conflicts nearly enough. Anyone claiming
with a straight face that Palestinian statehood would bring
peace to the Middle East is either deceitful or delusional.
dk
On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 1:11:10 AM UTC-5, Oscar wrote:west. Barenboim said the move would “not destroy the building … but the people inside”, as well as the Staatskapelle’s unique sound developed under its former artistic director Richard Strauss.
From The Guardian article cited in orig. post:
<< [Barenboim] also built a reputation as a staunch defender of culture in Germany, fighting politicians tooth and nail on many occasions – most notably opposing a threat to merge the Staatsoper in the east of Berlin with the Deutsche Oper in the
same way western Germans had taken over companies, universities and almost every other aspect of the former German Democratic Republic. In the end he won the fight. >>
He described that sound as being “based on a set of values that have gone slightly out of fashion today … of harmony [and] legato, over the values of brilliance … a more spiritual and less athletic way of playing.”
In an interview with the Guardian in 2000, an incandescent Barenboim said politicians who backed the merger were carrying out nothing less than a “western takeover” of the Staatsoper, one of east Germany’s most valuable cultural assets, in the
Wasn't DB infamous for leading the IP in a piece by Wagner against their wishes?
Amen.
Op zondag 8 januari 2023 om 19:16:53 UTC+1 schreef dan....@gmail.com:
On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 4:28:09 AM UTC-8, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
Boringboim conducted the worst La Mer I ever heard, in a
venue that was perfect in every respect:
https://embassies.gov.il/london/culture/IsraeliCulture/Music/Pages/The-Roman-Theater-of-Caesarea.aspxIn a confrontation with nature (La Mer versus the sea at Caesarea) art cannot survive. Even the greatest version of Liszt's Orage eclipses in a real thunderstorm.
I'm not a great fan of Barenboim but haven't yet heard a musician who handles climaxes often as well as he does, even as a solo pianist. It's something youngsters like Makela don't seem to have mastered yet.
Henk
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