• OT - 2023 As if we didn't have ENOUGH to worry about

    From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 4 12:16:29 2023
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/04/new-covid-strain-xbb-00076320

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 7 21:42:08 2023
    On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 12:16:32 PM UTC-8, wrote:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/04/new-covid-strain-xbb-00076320

    https://news.yahoo.com/former-russian-president-calls-warships-122211786.html

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 7 22:01:26 2023
    On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 12:16:32 PM UTC-8, wrote:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/04/new-covid-strain-xbb-00076320

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/chinese-jet-in-south-china-sea-nearly-collided-with-us-plane/ar-AA15Ngs5

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Wed Mar 1 18:09:59 2023
    On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:04:31 PM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:01:29 PM UTC-8, wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 12:16:32 PM UTC-8, wrote:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/04/new-covid-strain-xbb-00076320
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/chinese-jet-in-south-china-sea-nearly-collided-with-us-plane/ar-AA15Ngs5
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1aAuWDokYk

    Will we soon be at the mercy of the technology we created to serve us?:

    https://news.yahoo.com/ford-wants-allow-car-lock-213620813.html

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 1 18:04:26 2023
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:01:29 PM UTC-8, wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 12:16:32 PM UTC-8, wrote:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/04/new-covid-strain-xbb-00076320
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/chinese-jet-in-south-china-sea-nearly-collided-with-us-plane/ar-AA15Ngs5

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1aAuWDokYk

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Wed Mar 1 18:28:34 2023
    On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:10:02 PM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:04:31 PM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:01:29 PM UTC-8, wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 12:16:32 PM UTC-8, wrote:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/04/new-covid-strain-xbb-00076320
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/chinese-jet-in-south-china-sea-nearly-collided-with-us-plane/ar-AA15Ngs5
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1aAuWDokYk
    Will we soon be at the mercy of the technology we created to serve us?:

    https://news.yahoo.com/ford-wants-allow-car-lock-213620813.html

    Will we soon be at the mercy of a war spiraling out of control?:

    https://bigthink.com/the-future/hyperwar-ai-military-warfare/

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 3 07:46:12 2023
    On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 12:16:32 PM UTC-8, wrote:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/04/new-covid-strain-xbb-00076320

    https://weather.com/health/news/2023-03-02-breathing-harder-natural-pollution-sources-climate-change

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  • From Andy Evans@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Fri Mar 3 08:04:44 2023
    On Friday, 3 March 2023 at 15:46:15 UTC, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 12:16:32 PM UTC-8, wrote:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/04/new-covid-strain-xbb-00076320
    https://weather.com/health/news/2023-03-02-breathing-harder-natural-pollution-sources-climate-change

    Thank you gggg. Your posts are carefully chosen and free from garbage about antisemitism. You have a friend here.

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  • From Frank Berger@21:1/5 to Andy Evans on Mon Mar 6 09:34:53 2023
    On 3/3/2023 11:04 AM, Andy Evans wrote:
    On Friday, 3 March 2023 at 15:46:15 UTC, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 12:16:32 PM UTC-8, wrote:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/04/new-covid-strain-xbb-00076320
    https://weather.com/health/news/2023-03-02-breathing-harder-natural-pollution-sources-climate-change

    Thank you gggg. Your posts are carefully chosen and free from garbage about antisemitism. You have a friend here.

    Boring, boring, boring.

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  • From Andy Evans@21:1/5 to Frank Berger on Mon Mar 6 08:55:29 2023
    On Monday, 6 March 2023 at 14:35:06 UTC, Frank Berger wrote:
    Boring, boring, boring.

    People say talking to yourself is the first sign of madness......

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  • From Frank Berger@21:1/5 to Andy Evans on Mon Mar 6 16:55:44 2023
    On 3/6/2023 11:55 AM, Andy Evans wrote:
    On Monday, 6 March 2023 at 14:35:06 UTC, Frank Berger wrote:
    Boring, boring, boring.

    People say talking to yourself is the first sign of madness......

    On a roll. The more borings the more madness, do you think?

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  • From Andy Evans@21:1/5 to Frank Berger on Mon Mar 6 13:59:44 2023
    On Monday, 6 March 2023 at 21:55:58 UTC, Frank Berger wrote:
    On 3/6/2023 11:55 AM, Andy Evans wrote:
    On Monday, 6 March 2023 at 14:35:06 UTC, Frank Berger wrote:
    Boring, boring, boring.

    People say talking to yourself is the first sign of madness......
    On a roll. The more borings the more madness, do you think?

    Absolutely! We should reach barking by page 5.

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 9 15:18:09 2023
    On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 12:16:32 PM UTC-8, wrote:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/04/new-covid-strain-xbb-00076320

    (2023 Y. upload):

    "America predicts war with China in 2025"

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  • From HT@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 9 15:57:48 2023
    Op vrijdag 10 maart 2023 om 00:18:12 UTC+1 schreef gggg gggg:
    On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 12:16:32 PM UTC-8, wrote:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/04/new-covid-strain-xbb-00076320
    (2023 Y. upload):

    "America predicts war with China in 2025"

    There is already war with China, as there is a war with Russia. The question is how long is will take the US to force China to use military means - as it did force Russia.

    The war against China already costs the EU billions of dollars. IIRC, one pundit estimated that a full-fledged war would cost the EU trillions of dollars even if we weren't physically involved.

    Presently, six in ten households do not make ends meet or have difficulty making ends meet in the Netherlands.
    It's not difficult to imagine what the consequences will be of an open war with China.

    Henk

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 9 16:31:33 2023
    On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 12:16:32 PM UTC-8, wrote:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/04/new-covid-strain-xbb-00076320

    Could something like this become the death of us?:

    https://news.yahoo.com/scientists-revived-zombie-virus-frozen-190900438.html

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  • From Frank Berger@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 9 21:15:49 2023
    On 3/9/2023 6:57 PM, HT wrote:
    Op vrijdag 10 maart 2023 om 00:18:12 UTC+1 schreef gggg gggg:
    On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 12:16:32 PM UTC-8, wrote:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/04/new-covid-strain-xbb-00076320
    (2023 Y. upload):

    "America predicts war with China in 2025"

    There is already war with China, as there is a war with Russia. The question is how long is will take the US to force China to use military means - as it did force Russia.

    The war against China already costs the EU billions of dollars. IIRC, one pundit estimated that a full-fledged war would cost the EU trillions of dollars even if we weren't physically involved.

    Presently, six in ten households do not make ends meet or have difficulty making ends meet in the Netherlands.`

    Source of this? It's hard to believe and inconsistent with poverty statistics I found.



    It's not difficult to imagine what the consequences will be of an open war with China.


    You mean the radioactive cloud covering the cold, dead planet?

    Henk

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  • From raymond.hallbear1@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Frank Berger on Thu Mar 9 18:38:21 2023
    On Friday, 10 March 2023 at 13:15:59 UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote:
    On 3/9/2023 6:57 PM, HT wrote:
    Op vrijdag 10 maart 2023 om 00:18:12 UTC+1 schreef gggg gggg:
    On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 12:16:32 PM UTC-8, wrote:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/04/new-covid-strain-xbb-00076320 >> (2023 Y. upload):

    "America predicts war with China in 2025"

    There is already war with China, as there is a war with Russia. The question is how long is will take the US to force China to use military means - as it did force Russia.

    The war against China already costs the EU billions of dollars. IIRC, one pundit estimated that a full-fledged war would cost the EU trillions of dollars even if we weren't physically involved.

    Presently, six in ten households do not make ends meet or have difficulty making ends meet in the Netherlands.`

    Source of this? It's hard to believe and inconsistent with poverty statistics I found.

    Having difficulty making ends meet, and poverty, are different things, according to as many different definitions of poverty.

    Globally, and including here in Australia, people are having to reach further into their pockets for the basics, but that doesn't necessarily indicate more poverty, although it could.

    Ray Hall, Taree

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  • From HT@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 10 01:53:32 2023
    Op vrijdag 10 maart 2023 om 03:38:23 UTC+1 schreef raymond....@gmail.com:

    Having difficulty making ends meet, and poverty, are different things, according to as many different definitions of poverty.

    Globally, and including here in Australia, people are having to reach further into their pockets for the basics, but that doesn't necessarily indicate more poverty, although it could.

    Exactly.

    Henk

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  • From HT@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 10 13:33:52 2023
    There is already war with China, as there is a war with Russia. The question is how long is will take the US to force China to use military means - as it did force Russia.

    The war against China already costs the EU billions of dollars. IIRC, one pundit estimated that a full-fledged war would cost the EU trillions of dollars even if we weren't physically involved.

    Presently, six in ten households do not make ends meet or have difficulty making ends meet in the Netherlands.
    It's not difficult to imagine what the consequences will be of an open war with China.

    Henk
    "force" ?

    Bob Harper

    Yes, as happened with Russia.

    Henk

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  • From Bob Harper@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 10 13:29:50 2023
    On 3/9/23 3:57 PM, HT wrote:
    Op vrijdag 10 maart 2023 om 00:18:12 UTC+1 schreef gggg gggg:
    On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 12:16:32 PM UTC-8, wrote:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/04/new-covid-strain-xbb-00076320
    (2023 Y. upload):

    "America predicts war with China in 2025"

    There is already war with China, as there is a war with Russia. The question is how long is will take the US to force China to use military means - as it did force Russia.

    The war against China already costs the EU billions of dollars. IIRC, one pundit estimated that a full-fledged war would cost the EU trillions of dollars even if we weren't physically involved.

    Presently, six in ten households do not make ends meet or have difficulty making ends meet in the Netherlands.
    It's not difficult to imagine what the consequences will be of an open war with China.

    Henk

    "force" ?

    Bob Harper

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  • From Bob Harper@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 10 19:37:47 2023
    On 3/10/23 1:33 PM, HT wrote:

    There is already war with China, as there is a war with Russia. The question is how long is will take the US to force China to use military means - as it did force Russia.

    The war against China already costs the EU billions of dollars. IIRC, one pundit estimated that a full-fledged war would cost the EU trillions of dollars even if we weren't physically involved.

    Presently, six in ten households do not make ends meet or have difficulty making ends meet in the Netherlands.
    It's not difficult to imagine what the consequences will be of an open war with China.

    Henk
    "force" ?

    Bob Harper

    Yes, as happened with Russia.

    Henk

    Again, "force"? So we should rather have forced Ukraine not to respond
    to Russian aggression? Remember, Russia is the aggressor here. To argue otherwise is simply silly; we are not obligated to buy into Russian
    paranoia or its desire to recreate the old Soviet Union.

    Bob Harper

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  • From HT@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 11 03:31:06 2023
    Op zaterdag 11 maart 2023 om 04:37:52 UTC+1 schreef Bob Harper:

    Again, "force"? So we should rather have forced Ukraine not to respond
    to Russian aggression? Remember, Russia is the aggressor here. To argue otherwise is simply silly; we are not obligated to buy into Russian
    paranoia or its desire to recreate the old Soviet Union.

    Since 2016, I have been following developments around Russia almost daily. The situation in Poland and Ukraine strongly reminds me of what is happening in Taiwan these days (supplying weapons, posting American troops, influencing political leaders,
    pressuring allies, imposing sanctions, ...).

    America as a champion of peace, freedom and democracy - how credible would that be after Vietnam, ..., and most recently Afghanistan?

    I don't blame America for being what it is. It is the strongest kid in the class, it would be too much to ask not to take advantage of that.

    But whether it imposes its hegemony by force, yes it does.

    Henk

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 4 10:03:55 2023
    On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 12:16:32 PM UTC-8, wrote:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/04/new-covid-strain-xbb-00076320

    https://www.sfgate.com/news/world/article/new-images-from-inside-fukushima-reactor-spark-17877443.php

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  • From Andy Evans@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 4 12:39:11 2023
    On Saturday, 11 March 2023 at 11:31:08 UTC, HT wrote:
    America as a champion of peace, freedom and democracy - how credible would that be after Vietnam, ..., and most recently Afghanistan? >
    I don't blame America for being what it is. It is the strongest kid in the class, it would be too much to ask not to take advantage of that. But whether it imposes its hegemony by force, yes it does.
    Henk

    Sounds about right. After the next election, however, it will depend on "which America". America under Democrats might be very different from America under Trump or Ron De Santis, both of whom are very right wing and liable to steer America into
    collision courses particularly on action on climate change.

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  • From HT@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 4 13:30:06 2023
    Op dinsdag 4 april 2023 om 21:39:14 UTC+2 schreef Andy Evans:

    Sounds about right. After the next election, however, it will depend on "which America". America under Democrats might be very different from America under Trump or Ron De Santis, both of whom are very right wing and liable to steer America into
    collision courses particularly on action on climate change.

    These days I have no preferences. It's politics for politics’ sake, as it is over here. If it made him president again, Trump would become the pope of climate change. Paris vaut bien une messe.

    Henk

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 4 13:42:43 2023
    On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 3:31:08 AM UTC-8, HT wrote:
    Op zaterdag 11 maart 2023 om 04:37:52 UTC+1 schreef Bob Harper:
    Again, "force"? So we should rather have forced Ukraine not to respond
    to Russian aggression? Remember, Russia is the aggressor here. To argue otherwise is simply silly; we are not obligated to buy into Russian paranoia or its desire to recreate the old Soviet Union.
    Since 2016, I have been following developments around Russia almost daily. The situation in Poland and Ukraine strongly reminds me of what is happening in Taiwan these days (supplying weapons, posting American troops, influencing political leaders,
    pressuring allies, imposing sanctions, ...).

    America as a champion of peace, freedom and democracy - how credible would that be after Vietnam, ..., and most recently Afghanistan?

    I don't blame America for being what it is. It is the strongest kid in the class, it would be too much to ask not to take advantage of that.

    But whether it imposes its hegemony by force, yes it does.

    Henk

    https://countercurrents.org/2023/04/the-tragic-u-s-choice-to-prioritize-war-over-peacemaking/

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Andy Evans on Thu Apr 20 14:28:10 2023
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 8:55:31 AM UTC-8, Andy Evans wrote:
    On Monday, 6 March 2023 at 14:35:06 UTC, Frank Berger wrote:
    Boring, boring, boring.

    People say talking to yourself is the first sign of madness......

    https://giphy.com/gifs/thegoodfilms-robert-de-niro-taxi-driver-movie-CYUDHVmioGETu

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