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    From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Roland van Gaalen on Wed Dec 21 13:41:05 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:18:37 PM UTC-8, Roland van Gaalen wrote:

    https://youtu.be/Z8aTv-NAUyo


    I raise you Bernstein/VPO:

    https://youtu.be/609D5R-dEGY

    The VPO is a true Haydn orchestra,
    unlike the BPO which is primarily a
    7B orchestra. ;-)

    dk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Wed Dec 21 13:53:39 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:42:58 PM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:18:37 PM UTC-8, Roland van Gaalen wrote:

    https://youtu.be/Z8aTv-NAUyo

    I raise you Bernstein/VPO:

    https://youtu.be/609D5R-dEGY

    Clever/Szell:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z45VSlMTTUg

    Munch/Celi:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVtbLKbc_rw

    Martha & Nelson:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk1YeAO0Ybc

    No shortage of great performances.

    dk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Roland van Gaalen on Wed Dec 21 13:42:56 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:18:37 PM UTC-8, Roland van Gaalen wrote:

    https://youtu.be/Z8aTv-NAUyo


    I raise you Bernstein/VPO:

    https://youtu.be/609D5R-dEGY

    dk

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  • From Roland van Gaalen@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Wed Dec 21 14:21:19 2022
    Dan Koren wrote
    [...]
    I raise you Bernstein/VPO:

    https://youtu.be/609D5R-dEGY

    dk

    Thank you -- an elegant, but also exciting and powerful interpretation; a pleasure to listen to.
    The faster, lighter variations (3, 5 and 6, I believe) and their contrast with the slower, heavier ones made me think of the Nutcracker by Tchaikovsky.
    Very refined. Perfect, actually, in my opinion.
    --
    Roland van Gaalen
    Amsterdam

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Roland van Gaalen on Wed Dec 21 14:44:08 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 2:21:22 PM UTC-8, Roland van Gaalen wrote:
    Dan Koren wrote
    [...]
    I raise you Bernstein/VPO:

    https://youtu.be/609D5R-dEGY

    Thank you -- an elegant, but also exciting and
    powerful interpretation; a pleasure to listen to.
    The faster, lighter variations (3, 5 and 6, I believe)
    and their contrast with the slower, heavier ones
    made me think of the Nutcracker by Tchaikovsky.
    Very refined. Perfect, actually, in my opinion.

    Thanks for listening so promptly!

    This version is considered by "many"
    to be the finest one on record. I do
    not entirely agree, however it is
    indeed one of the finest ones.

    Szell's recording with Cleveland is
    also often praised as "the best".
    To my ears, am ideal version
    would be somewhere in the
    middle: less boisterous than
    Bernstein, and less dry than
    Szell.

    dk

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  • From Roland van Gaalen@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Wed Dec 21 14:49:52 2022
    Dan Koren wrote:
    [...]
    Martha & Nelson:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk1YeAO0Ybc
    [...]

    Wow!
    --
    Roland van Gaalen
    Amsterdam

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Roland van Gaalen on Wed Dec 21 15:25:34 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 2:49:54 PM UTC-8, Roland van Gaalen wrote:
    Dan Koren wrote:
    [...]
    Martha & Nelson:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk1YeAO0Ybc
    [...]

    Wow!

    It was one of their signature pieces.
    Martha has performed in duos with
    quite a few pianists, however there
    can be no question Nelson Freire
    was her best matching partner.

    dk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 21 15:57:13 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 3:54:10 PM UTC-8, Notsure01 wrote:
    I've always been fond of the Klemperer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOfWeYtsrj8

    It's well played with character throughout,

    HEAVY!

    and makes quite an impact in the finale.

    It is becoming increasingly clear you are
    part of the problem rather than part of
    the solution!

    dk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 21 16:39:58 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 4:26:42 PM UTC-8, Notsure01 wrote:
    On 12/21/22 6:57 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 3:54:10 PM UTC-8, Notsure01 wrote:
    I've always been fond of the Klemperer:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOfWeYtsrj8

    It's well played with character throughout,

    HEAVY!

    and makes quite an impact in the finale.

    It is becoming increasingly clear you are
    part of the problem rather than part of
    the solution!

    There didn't seem to be a problem, but if
    Klemps is too heavy, I raise (or should I
    say, lower) you Norrington:

    Any mention of Norrington, Marriner, Gardiner,
    Hogwood, Pinnock, Koopman, Bruggen, Biondi,
    Goebel, etc... will trigger an instantaneous
    nuclear attack! ;-)

    dk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Roland van Gaalen on Fri Dec 23 13:29:14 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:18:37 PM UTC-8, Roland van Gaalen wrote:

    https://youtu.be/Z8aTv-NAUyo


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcobxmwCTys

    Not bad.

    dk

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