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dan....@gmail.com schrieb am Mittwoch, 23. November 2022 um 17:32:40 UTC+1:
https://www.hrdive.com/news/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-theyre-less-likely-to-hire-jewish-applicants/637281/
Jews: the one minority that
does not have minority status.
https://www.hrdive.com/news/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-theyre-less-likely-to-hire-jewish-applicants/637281/
On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:43:44 PM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:32:40 AM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.hrdive.com/news/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-theyre-less-likely-to-hire-jewish-applicants/637281/
My recommendation is that, like aspiringUnfortunately that does not work well for
American musicians, they move to the UK
or Germany.
US tech people. The explanation is quite
obvious, so I will leave it as an exercise
for the readet.
dk
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:32:40 AM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.hrdive.com/news/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-theyre-less-likely-to-hire-jewish-applicants/637281/
My recommendation is that, like aspiring
American musicians, they move to the UK
or Germany.
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:45:51 PM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:43:44 PM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:32:40 AM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.hrdive.com/news/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-theyre-less-likely-to-hire-jewish-applicants/637281/
My recommendation is that, like aspiringUnfortunately that does not work well for
American musicians, they move to the UK
or Germany.
US tech people. The explanation is quite
obvious, so I will leave it as an exercise
for the readet.
The answer is far from obvious, as nobody in
post-Shoah Europe wants to be suspected of
antisemitism. What about Ireland, plenty of
IT there, but less opportunity for American
musicians unless you're in Riverdance.
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:45:51 PM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:43:44 PM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:32:40 AM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:Unfortunately that does not work well for
https://www.hrdive.com/news/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-theyre-less-likely-to-hire-jewish-applicants/637281/
My recommendation is that, like aspiring
American musicians, they move to the UK
or Germany.
US tech people. The explanation is quite
obvious, so I will leave it as an exercise
for the readet.
dk
The answer is far from obvious, as nobody in post-Shoah Europe wants to be suspected of antisemitism.
Andrew Clarke
Canberra
On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 10:20:17 AM UTC-8, Marc S wrote:
dan....@gmail.com schrieb am Mittwoch, 23. November 2022 um 17:32:40 UTC+1:
https://www.hrdive.com/news/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-theyre-less-likely-to-hire-jewish-applicants/637281/
Jews: the one minority thatVery aptly put. Did you figure
does not have minority status.
this out on your own, or are
you quoting someone else?
dk
And - if you are interested - a very good article about the failed covid-policy:intentionally spread “misinformation or disinformation” about COVID risks and prevention, as well as the safety and efficacy of COVID vaccines. In the U.K. and Sweden, by contrast, COVID vaccines are no longer offered to healthy children under 12,
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/vaccines-never-prevented-transmission-covid-alex-gutentag
Alex Gutentag (https://twitter.com/galexybrane):
"Censorship of medical dissent is now being expanded in California, where Gov. Gavin Newsom has signed Assembly Bill 2098 into law, officially granting the California Medical Board the authority to penalize and suspend the licenses of doctors who
https://www.hrdive.com/news/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-theyre-less-likely-to-hire-jewish-applicants/637281/
dan....@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 24. November 2022 um 03:16:04 UTC+1:
On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 10:20:17 AM UTC-8, Marc S wrote:
dan....@gmail.com schrieb am Mittwoch, 23. November 2022 um 17:32:40 UTC+1:
https://www.hrdive.com/news/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-theyre-less-likely-to-hire-jewish-applicants/637281/
Jews: the one minority that
does not have minority status.
Very aptly put. Did you figure
this out on your own, or are
you quoting someone else?
What are you saying here? Do you think I'm too stupid to have figured this out by myself? ;D
I have figured this out by myself years ago, but the quote is indeed not from me.
It's from William Kolbrener:
https://twitter.com/OMTorah/status/1590688654741364737
Another fine Twitter Page - Arsen Ostrovsky:
https://twitter.com/Ostrov_A/status/1590705516719783936
And - if you are interested - a very good article about the failed covid-policy:
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/vaccines-never-prevented-transmission-covid-alex-gutentag
Alex Gutentag (https://twitter.com/galexybrane):
Marc S schrieb am Donnerstag, 24. November 2022 um 07:32:20 UTC+1:
The covid policy was outright inhumane - it
was an attack on human rights and human
dignity.
And so many people got fooled
or even brainwashed. Even you ;)
https://www.hrdive.com/news/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-theyre-less-likely-to-hire-jewish-applicants/637281/
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:02:40 AM UTC+10:30, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.hrdive.com/news/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-theyre-less-likely-to-hire-jewish-applicants/637281/
Why does Israel refuse to have a black president?
Why do Jewish business managers give the best paying positions to other Jews? Why do Jews make up stories about not being hired because they are Jewish? Why do Jews discourage marriage between non-Jews and Jews?
Why do Jews display their hatred of non-Jews by endlessly falsely accusing them of antisemitism?
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 4:57:29 AM UTC-8, Marc S wrote:
Marc S schrieb am Donnerstag, 24. November 2022 um 07:32:20 UTC+1:
The covid policy was outright inhumane - it
was an attack on human rights and human
dignity.
Isn't it somewhat unreasonable to
expect viruses to respect human
rights and human dignity? ;-)
And so many people got fooled
or even brainwashed. Even you ;)
I wash my brain every day. In case
you don't remember, this is called
"basic hygiene".
Happy Thanksgiving! Don't waste
your time and your unwashed brain
trying to understand viruses. Listen
to Buxtehude and Telemann, they
will kill your brain faster than any
viruses.
dk
On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 18:50:33 -0800, Manypeopletrytosee99 wrote:
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:02:40 AM UTC+10:30, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.hrdive.com/news/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-theyre-less-likely-to-hire-jewish-applicants/637281/
Why does Israel refuse to have a black president?Because they know that other Jews will always back them up.
Why do Jewish business managers give the best paying positions to other Jews?
Why do Jews make up stories about not being hired because they are Jewish? Why do Jews discourage marriage between non-Jews and Jews?
Why do Jews display their hatred of non-Jews by endlessly falsely accusing them of antisemitism?
On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 6:25:48 PM UTC+10:30, Pluted Pup wrote:What initial praise?
On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 18:50:33 -0800, Manypeopletrytosee99 wrote:
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:02:40 AM UTC+10:30, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.hrdive.com/news/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-theyre-less-likely-to-hire-jewish-applicants/637281/
Ah Yes, It was amusing how the initial praise for Bernie Madoff and hisWhy does Israel refuse to have a black president?Because they know that other Jews will always back them up.
Why do Jewish business managers give the best paying positions to other Jews?
Why do Jews make up stories about not being hired because they are Jewish?
Why do Jews discourage marriage between non-Jews and Jews?
Why do Jews display their hatred of non-Jews by endlessly falsely accusing them of antisemitism?
Ponzi Scheme disappeared when the Jewish community discovered that most of his victims were Jewish just like him lol
On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 8:53:33 PM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:45:51 PM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:43:44 PM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:32:40 AM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.hrdive.com/news/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-theyre-less-likely-to-hire-jewish-applicants/637281/
My recommendation is that, like aspiringUnfortunately that does not work well for
American musicians, they move to the UK
or Germany.
US tech people. The explanation is quite
obvious, so I will leave it as an exercise
for the readet.
The answer is far from obvious, as nobody inMany (most?) US software engineers are
post-Shoah Europe wants to be suspected of
antisemitism. What about Ireland, plenty of
IT there, but less opportunity for American
musicians unless you're in Riverdance.
underqualified relative to their European
counterparts. In addition, Europeans in
general tend to look down on Americans
in general. Does this add up now? I find
it rather surprising you did not figure it
out on your own.
Happu Turkey Day!
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:02:40 AM UTC+10:30, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.hrdive.com/news/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-theyre-less-likely-to-hire-jewish-applicants/637281/
Why does Israel refuse to have a black president?
Why do Jewish business managers give the best paying positions to other Jews? Why do Jews make up stories about not being hired because they are Jewish? Why do Jews discourage marriage between non-Jews and Jews?
Why do Jews display their hatred of non-Jews by endlessly falsely accusing them of antisemitism?
On 11/24/22 6:50 PM, Manypeopletrytosee99 wrote:Ah Yes, It was amusing how the initial praise for Bernie Madoff and his
On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 5:04:59 PM UTC-6, Bob Harper wrote:
On 11/24/22 6:50 PM, Manypeopletrytosee99 wrote:Ah Yes, It was amusing how the initial praise for Bernie Madoff and his
Ponzi Scheme disappeared when the Jewish community discovered that most of his victims were Jewish just like him lol
Again: What initial praise for Madoff? Why would there be any from any quarter. Are there Ponzi Scheme aficionados?
LK
On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 5:04:59 PM UTC-6, Bob Harper wrote:
On 11/24/22 6:50 PM, Manypeopletrytosee99 wrote:Ah Yes, It was amusing how the initial praise for Bernie Madoff and his
Ponzi Scheme disappeared when the Jewish community discovered that most of his victims were Jewish just like him lol
Again: What initial praise for Madoff? Why would there be any from any quarter. Are there Ponzi Scheme aficionados?
LK
On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 6:25:48 PM UTC+10:30, Pluted Pup wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 18:50:33 -0800, Manypeopletrytosee99 wrote:
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:02:40 AM UTC+10:30, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.hrdive.com/news/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-theyre-less-likely-to-hire-jewish-applicants/637281/
Why does Israel refuse to have a black president?Because they know that other Jews will always back them up.
Why do Jewish business managers give the best paying positions to other Jews?
Why do Jews make up stories about not being hired because they are Jewish?
Why do Jews discourage marriage between non-Jews and Jews?
Why do Jews display their hatred of non-Jews by endlessly falsely accusing them of antisemitism?
Ah Yes, It was amusing how the initial praise for Bernie Madoff and his
Ponzi Scheme disappeared when the Jewish community discovered that most of his victims were Jewish just like him lol
On Fri, 25 Nov 2022 08:52:19 -0800, Manypeopletrytosee99 wrote:
On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 6:25:48 PM UTC+10:30, Pluted Pup wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 18:50:33 -0800, Manypeopletrytosee99 wrote:
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:02:40 AM UTC+10:30, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.hrdive.com/news/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-theyre-less-likely-to-hire-jewish-applicants/637281/
Why does Israel refuse to have a black president?Because they know that other Jews will always back them up.
Why do Jewish business managers give the best paying positions to other Jews?
Why do Jews make up stories about not being hired because they are Jewish?
Why do Jews discourage marriage between non-Jews and Jews?
Why do Jews display their hatred of non-Jews by endlessly falsely accusing them of antisemitism?
Ah Yes, It was amusing how the initial praise for Bernie Madoff and his Ponzi Scheme disappeared when the Jewish community discovered that most of his victims were Jewish just like him lolJews will defend Jews from non-Jews no matter whether it
is Madoff, Fogle or Epstein.
Larry, it's useless to expect a coherent answer from this guy.
Bob Harper
On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 9:58:23 PM UTC+1, Bob Harper wrote:
Larry, it's useless to expect a coherent answer from this guy.
Looking at the timing my guess is that trivial chatter here about anti-semitism (does liking Isabelle Faust make one an anti-semite,
for instance?)
In fairness to you, much of what I wrote is based on statistical
speculation -- which is par for the course for this ng as so many
people indulge in it. I would be happy to be proven wrong, and if
you deserve an apology, one will be offered. The ball is in your
court.
On 11/23/2022 11:53 PM, Andrew Clarke wrote:
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:45:51 PM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:43:44 PM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:32:40 AM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:Unfortunately that does not work well for
https://www.hrdive.com/news/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-theyre-less-likely-to-hire-jewish-applicants/637281/
My recommendation is that, like aspiring
American musicians, they move to the UK
or Germany.
US tech people. The explanation is quite
obvious, so I will leave it as an exercise
for the readet.
dk
The answer is far from obvious, as nobody in post-Shoah Europe wants to be suspected of antisemitism.Overly simplistic. It may be that political leaders are shy of being "suspected" of antisemitism. But regular folks are not so shy. And regular folks do the hiring.
What about Ireland, plenty of IT there, but less opportunity for American musicians unless you're in Riverdance.
Some Jews, I have no idea what percent, would be averse to living in a place that has been hostile to Israel, as Ireland has been in recent years.
Andrew Clarke
Canberra
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 4:18:44 PM UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote:Oliver Cromwell to ask us back. Jewish immigration to Britain was severely limited in the 1930s, as was immigration to British-controlled Palestine. Even so, Anglo-Jewry was – a handful of casualties from the occupied Channel Islands aside – the only
On 11/23/2022 11:53 PM, Andrew Clarke wrote:
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:45:51 PM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:Overly simplistic. It may be that political leaders are shy of being "suspected" of antisemitism. But regular folks are not so shy. And regular folks do the hiring.
On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:43:44 PM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:32:40 AM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:Unfortunately that does not work well for
https://www.hrdive.com/news/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-theyre-less-likely-to-hire-jewish-applicants/637281/
My recommendation is that, like aspiring
American musicians, they move to the UK
or Germany.
US tech people. The explanation is quite
obvious, so I will leave it as an exercise
for the readet.
dk
The answer is far from obvious, as nobody in post-Shoah Europe wants to be suspected of antisemitism.
What about Ireland, plenty of IT there, but less opportunity for American musicians unless you're in Riverdance.
Some Jews, I have no idea what percent, would be averse to living in a place that has been hostile to Israel, as Ireland has been in recent years.
Andrew Clarke
Canberra
There are a lot of people who criticise Israel who are (a) not antisemitic and (b) Jewish themselves. Meanwhile, here is a point to ponder:
"f all the European countries that Jews have lived in, none has been so welcoming as Britain. There is a caveat: the first blood libel was in Norwich, of all places, in 1144, and after Edward I expelled us in 1290 we had to wait almost 400 years for
If we exist here in our fullness, it doesn’t always feel that way. Perhaps this is our fullness, because what have we done with this security? Warsaw and Vilnius were lodestars of Jewish culture in a way that Golders Green has never managed – but,to be fair, they had the numbers.
What are we, beyond lucky? Harry Freedman’s task is to describe what we internalise – faith and trauma – and, though they are impossible to fully impart, his survey is detailed and fair. He explains our disparate tribes, our communal structuresand our contradictory struggles: to integrate (for security) and not to integrate (for identity). We are model immigrants – we have the practice – and many fall away.
His central point is that there is no single Jewish community in Britain, though the appearance of one is a deliberate thing. Are we afraid that too many Jewish voices – there are only 250,000 of us, why worry? – will incite a pogrom? The last anti-Jewish riots were in 1947 in Glasgow, Manchester and Liverpool, a response to Jewish terrorists killing British soldiers in Palestine. We are a patchwork from liberal Judaism (gays, non-Jewish partners and Jews of patrilineal descent welcome, plus female
But the face we show the world smiles to the point of muteness. We fund political parties; we are noted philanthropists; the Chief Rabbi is having a sleepover with the King the night before the coronation. Our most famous synagogue, Bevis Marks in theCity of London, looks like a church."
This is the beginning of a review in the London weekly "The Spectator" of "Britain’s Jews: Confidence, Maturity, Anxiety", a new book by Harry Freedman. The author of the review is Tanya Gold, herself Jewish. You would have thought that is the UK wasa hotbed of antisemitism, as some here have suggested, she might have noticed.
Andrew Clarke
Canberra
On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 9:58:23 PM UTC+1, Bob Harper wrote:see where it takes them.
Larry, it's useless to expect a coherent answer from this guy.
Bob Harper
Looking at the timing my guess is that trivial chatter here about anti-semitism (does liking Isabelle Faust make one an anti-semite, for instance?) has attracted one or two posters who just came here because they google "jews" or "anti-semitism" and
On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 2:18:12 AM UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote:Oliver Cromwell to ask us back. Jewish immigration to Britain was severely limited in the 1930s, as was immigration to British-controlled Palestine. Even so, Anglo-Jewry was – a handful of casualties from the occupied Channel Islands aside – the only
On 11/27/2022 7:32 AM, Andrew Clarke wrote:
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 4:18:44 PM UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote: >>>> On 11/23/2022 11:53 PM, Andrew Clarke wrote:
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:45:51 PM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:Overly simplistic. It may be that political leaders are shy of being "suspected" of antisemitism. But regular folks are not so shy. And regular folks do the hiring.
On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:43:44 PM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:32:40 AM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:Unfortunately that does not work well for
https://www.hrdive.com/news/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-theyre-less-likely-to-hire-jewish-applicants/637281/
My recommendation is that, like aspiring
American musicians, they move to the UK
or Germany.
US tech people. The explanation is quite
obvious, so I will leave it as an exercise
for the readet.
dk
The answer is far from obvious, as nobody in post-Shoah Europe wants to be suspected of antisemitism.
What about Ireland, plenty of IT there, but less opportunity for American musicians unless you're in Riverdance.
Some Jews, I have no idea what percent, would be averse to living in a place that has been hostile to Israel, as Ireland has been in recent years.
Andrew Clarke
Canberra
There are a lot of people who criticise Israel who are (a) not antisemitic and (b) Jewish themselves. Meanwhile, here is a point to ponder:
"f all the European countries that Jews have lived in, none has been so welcoming as Britain. There is a caveat: the first blood libel was in Norwich, of all places, in 1144, and after Edward I expelled us in 1290 we had to wait almost 400 years for
to be fair, they had the numbers.
If we exist here in our fullness, it doesn’t always feel that way. Perhaps this is our fullness, because what have we done with this security? Warsaw and Vilnius were lodestars of Jewish culture in a way that Golders Green has never managed – but,
and our contradictory struggles: to integrate (for security) and not to integrate (for identity). We are model immigrants – we have the practice – and many fall away.
What are we, beyond lucky? Harry Freedman’s task is to describe what we internalise – faith and trauma – and, though they are impossible to fully impart, his survey is detailed and fair. He explains our disparate tribes, our communal structures
anti-Jewish riots were in 1947 in Glasgow, Manchester and Liverpool, a response to Jewish terrorists killing British soldiers in Palestine. We are a patchwork from liberal Judaism (gays, non-Jewish partners and Jews of patrilineal descent welcome, plus
His central point is that there is no single Jewish community in Britain, though the appearance of one is a deliberate thing. Are we afraid that too many Jewish voices – there are only 250,000 of us, why worry? – will incite a pogrom? The last
the City of London, looks like a church."
But the face we show the world smiles to the point of muteness. We fund political parties; we are noted philanthropists; the Chief Rabbi is having a sleepover with the King the night before the coronation. Our most famous synagogue, Bevis Marks in
was a hotbed of antisemitism, as some here have suggested, she might have noticed.
This is the beginning of a review in the London weekly "The Spectator" of "Britain’s Jews: Confidence, Maturity, Anxiety", a new book by Harry Freedman. The author of the review is Tanya Gold, herself Jewish. You would have thought that is the UK
Israel is engaged in an existential battle with the Palestinians, which is of the latter's making. To say the Israel should up and leave the West Bank (as they did in Gaza), and not engage in defensive military operations (intercepting ships, raidingNot sure what I said that provoked this response. The government of Ireland has adopted positions re the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that IMO are harmful to the state of Israel. I didn't say anything about the general Jewish experience in the Uk.
Andrew Clarke
Canberra
Frank, on more than one occasion I have written that the UK is not, generally speaking, an antisemitic country, and various people here, including yourself, have said that it is.
Andrew Clarke
Canberra
On 11/27/2022 7:32 AM, Andrew Clarke wrote:Oliver Cromwell to ask us back. Jewish immigration to Britain was severely limited in the 1930s, as was immigration to British-controlled Palestine. Even so, Anglo-Jewry was – a handful of casualties from the occupied Channel Islands aside – the only
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 4:18:44 PM UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote:
On 11/23/2022 11:53 PM, Andrew Clarke wrote:
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:45:51 PM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:Overly simplistic. It may be that political leaders are shy of being "suspected" of antisemitism. But regular folks are not so shy. And regular folks do the hiring.
On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:43:44 PM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:32:40 AM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:Unfortunately that does not work well for
https://www.hrdive.com/news/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-theyre-less-likely-to-hire-jewish-applicants/637281/
My recommendation is that, like aspiring
American musicians, they move to the UK
or Germany.
US tech people. The explanation is quite
obvious, so I will leave it as an exercise
for the readet.
dk
The answer is far from obvious, as nobody in post-Shoah Europe wants to be suspected of antisemitism.
What about Ireland, plenty of IT there, but less opportunity for American musicians unless you're in Riverdance.
Some Jews, I have no idea what percent, would be averse to living in a place that has been hostile to Israel, as Ireland has been in recent years.
Andrew Clarke
Canberra
There are a lot of people who criticise Israel who are (a) not antisemitic and (b) Jewish themselves. Meanwhile, here is a point to ponder:
"f all the European countries that Jews have lived in, none has been so welcoming as Britain. There is a caveat: the first blood libel was in Norwich, of all places, in 1144, and after Edward I expelled us in 1290 we had to wait almost 400 years for
to be fair, they had the numbers.If we exist here in our fullness, it doesn’t always feel that way. Perhaps this is our fullness, because what have we done with this security? Warsaw and Vilnius were lodestars of Jewish culture in a way that Golders Green has never managed – but,
and our contradictory struggles: to integrate (for security) and not to integrate (for identity). We are model immigrants – we have the practice – and many fall away.What are we, beyond lucky? Harry Freedman’s task is to describe what we internalise – faith and trauma – and, though they are impossible to fully impart, his survey is detailed and fair. He explains our disparate tribes, our communal structures
anti-Jewish riots were in 1947 in Glasgow, Manchester and Liverpool, a response to Jewish terrorists killing British soldiers in Palestine. We are a patchwork from liberal Judaism (gays, non-Jewish partners and Jews of patrilineal descent welcome, plusHis central point is that there is no single Jewish community in Britain, though the appearance of one is a deliberate thing. Are we afraid that too many Jewish voices – there are only 250,000 of us, why worry? – will incite a pogrom? The last
the City of London, looks like a church."But the face we show the world smiles to the point of muteness. We fund political parties; we are noted philanthropists; the Chief Rabbi is having a sleepover with the King the night before the coronation. Our most famous synagogue, Bevis Marks in
was a hotbed of antisemitism, as some here have suggested, she might have noticed.This is the beginning of a review in the London weekly "The Spectator" of "Britain’s Jews: Confidence, Maturity, Anxiety", a new book by Harry Freedman. The author of the review is Tanya Gold, herself Jewish. You would have thought that is the UK
Israel is engaged in an existential battle with the Palestinians, which is of the latter's making. To say the Israel should up and leave the West Bank (as they did in Gaza), and not engage in defensive military operations (intercepting ships, raidingAndrew Clarke
Canberra
Not sure what I said that provoked this response. The government of Ireland has adopted positions re the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that IMO are harmful to the state of Israel. I didn't say anything about the general Jewish experience in the Uk.
I don't know why you are defending the
UK against something I never said.
Frank, on more than one occasion I have written that the UK is
not, generally speaking, an antisemitic country, and various
people here, including yourself, have said that it is.
On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 3:19:49 PM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
Frank, on more than one occasion I have written that the UK isPrince William agrees with you! ;-)
not, generally speaking, an antisemitic country, and various
people here, including yourself, have said that it is.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/11/uk/prince-william-response-racism-harry-meghan-intl-gbr/index.html
simply
Seriously, why are you so keen on
defending the UK and its royals?
dk
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 8:29:58 AM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:and neither is the House of Windsor.
On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 3:19:49 PM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
Prince William agrees with you! ;-)
Frank, on more than one occasion I have written that the UK is
not, generally speaking, an antisemitic country, and various
people here, including yourself, have said that it is.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/11/uk/prince-william-response-racism-harry-meghan-intl-gbr/index.html
simply
Seriously, why are you so keen on
defending the UK and its royals?
dk
I am similarly keen to argue that the product of 2 and 7 is not 4.37 recurring, that the red giant Betelgueuse is not to be found in Ursa Major, and that Berlin was not the capital of Germany in 1869. The United Kingdoms isn't intrinsically antisemitic,
If someone were to argue that the good citizens of South Dakota are intrinsically racist with no creditable evidence to support this allegation, I would be similarly prepared to support the good citizens of South Dakota.
Andrew Clarke
Canberra
On 11/30/2022 7:20 PM, Andrew Clarke wrote:antisemitic, and neither is the House of Windsor.
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 8:29:58 AM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 3:19:49 PM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
Prince William agrees with you! ;-)
Frank, on more than one occasion I have written that the UK is
not, generally speaking, an antisemitic country, and various
people here, including yourself, have said that it is.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/11/uk/prince-william-response-racism-harry-meghan-intl-gbr/index.html
simply
Seriously, why are you so keen on
defending the UK and its royals?
dk
I am similarly keen to argue that the product of 2 and 7 is not 4.37 recurring, that the red giant Betelgueuse is not to be found in Ursa Major, and that Berlin was not the capital of Germany in 1869. The United Kingdoms isn't intrinsically
in Ireland was about the government of Ireland's policies toward Israel.If someone were to argue that the good citizens of South Dakota are intrinsically racist with no creditable evidence to support this allegation, I would be similarly prepared to support the good citizens of South Dakota.
Andrew ClarkeAndrew, you did not respond to my statement that I never said the UK was antisemitic. Someone else may have, but not me. I may gave said something like antisemitism is present there, as it is everywhere. And my comment on some Jews not wanting to live
Canberra
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 12:41:39 PM UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote:antisemitic, and neither is the House of Windsor.
On 11/30/2022 7:20 PM, Andrew Clarke wrote:
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 8:29:58 AM UTC+11, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 3:19:49 PM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
Prince William agrees with you! ;-)
Frank, on more than one occasion I have written that the UK is
not, generally speaking, an antisemitic country, and various
people here, including yourself, have said that it is.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/11/uk/prince-william-response-racism-harry-meghan-intl-gbr/index.html
simply
Seriously, why are you so keen on
defending the UK and its royals?
dk
I am similarly keen to argue that the product of 2 and 7 is not 4.37 recurring, that the red giant Betelgueuse is not to be found in Ursa Major, and that Berlin was not the capital of Germany in 1869. The United Kingdoms isn't intrinsically
in Ireland was about the government of Ireland's policies toward Israel.Andrew, you did not respond to my statement that I never said the UK was antisemitic. Someone else may have, but not me. I may gave said something like antisemitism is present there, as it is everywhere. And my comment on some Jews not wanting to live
If someone were to argue that the good citizens of South Dakota are intrinsically racist with no creditable evidence to support this allegation, I would be similarly prepared to support the good citizens of South Dakota.
Andrew Clarke
Canberra
I didn't Frank, because this is an increasingly sterile argument which keeps going round in circles, and I didn't want to prolong it. Meanwhile, enjoy these lovely Lancashire accents ...
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1JLv5txMw4&t=2s>
Andrew Clarke
Canberra
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