• Re: "Emperor" redux

    From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Mon Oct 31 15:28:55 2022
    On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 3:15:50 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:

    https://www.gramophone.co.uk/features/article/the-best-recordings-of-beethoven-s-piano-concerto-no-5-emperor

    As usual, the Gramophoney is full of it!

    There are at least a dozen recorded
    performances of Der kaiser that are
    MUCH "better" than those shortlisted
    by the Gramophoney.

    For starters, listen to this one:

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/79ynibqxa60m9uw/AABDz6oZ1LjoQyXQ2vjJEJWja?dl=0

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Bozo on Mon Oct 31 15:15:47 2022
    On Sunday, December 3, 2017 at 9:51:27 AM UTC-8, Bozo wrote:
    Sokolov at age 35 , live . Not as satisfying for me as others, but well worth the listen :

    Beethoven, Concerto pour piano en mi bémol majeur opus 73
    
Grigory Sokolov, piano
    
Orchestre philharmonique de Leningrad dir. par Mariss Jansons
    
Concert donné le donné le 23 mai 1985 au Palais des congrès, à Paris

    https://www.francemusique.fr/emissions/le-meilleur-des-concerts-radio-france/grigory-sokolov-j-1-h-30-38369

    Per Wiki, Sokolov in a 2006 interview with Jessica Duchen :

    “Sokolov has significantly reduced the number of his concerto performances, for the following reason: ' It's very simple. For piano is written an ocean of music, and during your lifetime you are not able to play even a small part of it. Then with
    orchestra it's not easy to find enough time to rehearse, or to find an orchestra which is interested in the final product and not looking at their watch. It's also not easy with conductors, because you must find the combination of a very good musician
    who has this special talent to follow and to understand the music in the same way as you. It's very seldom, I must say! And then maybe the worst: if you play a solo piece several times over several days you will develop, going to another level with it,
    but with a concerto you play this piece more and more, but with each orchestra and conductor you must start again at the first rehearsal. So, if you spend so much energy that you could use much more effectively for recitals, why do you do it? I very much
    like the fact that everything I make depends only on me. With a hundred people it's almost impossible. You have not the responsibility.'"

    Recent article by Peter Gutmann about “Emperor “ , reviewing several recordings :

    http://www.classicalnotes.net/classics6/emperor.html

    https://www.gramophone.co.uk/features/article/the-best-recordings-of-beethoven-s-piano-concerto-no-5-emperor

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  • From HT@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 1 08:16:28 2022
    Op maandag 31 oktober 2022 om 23:28:57 UTC+1 schreef dan....@gmail.com:
    On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 3:15:50 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:

    https://www.gramophone.co.uk/features/article/the-best-recordings-of-beethoven-s-piano-concerto-no-5-emperor

    As usual, the Gramophoney is full of it!

    There are at least a dozen recorded
    performances of Der kaiser that are
    MUCH "better" than those shortlisted
    by the Gramophoney.

    For starters, listen to this one:

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/79ynibqxa60m9uw/AABDz6oZ1LjoQyXQ2vjJEJWja?dl=0

    Voting is by mail only -- send
    postcards directly to Jaune
    Tom. His last known address
    was:

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    Jaune Tom
    Chief Mischief Officer,
    Rodent Consultants, Int.
    Main and Wall Streets
    Catskill, NY 12414, USA
    Jaun...@CatsYahoo.Com
    phone: 1-800-FOR-CATS
    fax: 1-800-FOR-RATS

    The ones on the list I heard, aren't bad at all. Since there are so many recordings of the piece, it wouldn't be difficult to name 12 that are as interesting or even (slightly) better.

    Henk

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