• Re: Bob Dylan wins Nobel prize in Literature

    From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Herman on Sun Oct 9 13:55:24 2022
    On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 10:28:33 AM UTC-7, Herman wrote:
    On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 6:07:33 PM UTC+2, Raymond Hall wrote:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/arts/music/bob-dylan-nobel-prize-literature.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=photo-spot-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

    There are bound to be some comments, but as a Dylan fan for musical merit (I possess most of his output), this award comes as a mild shock.

    Ray Hall, Taree
    It's a yuge shock to me. It's a massive, monumental middle finger to the entire literary world (of which, of course, the jury is a part, to a degree).

    It goes without saying that Bob Dylan is an epochal singer and songwriter, although in my mind that epoch closed about thirty years ago, or more. But he does not write poetry. He writes songs.

    Off the top of my head I can name dozens of poets who deserve the Nobel, after working for decades on their craft and mining their vision. To name one from the US, Louise Gluck.

    And there were rumors that the Albanian novelist Ismael Kadare was close, and some people are still thinking Philip Roth has a shot.

    All these writers, and many more who will never ever get close to international prizes, but do belong to the literary food chain, have now been told a guy who plays his songs to stadiums and has an alleged net worth of 75 million dollar needs the prize
    more.

    We're back to unkowns.

    (2022 Y. upload):

    "Who is Annie Ernaux? 2022 Winner of Nobel Prize in Literature"

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Herman on Sun Oct 9 14:03:50 2022
    On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 10:28:33 AM UTC-7, Herman wrote:
    On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 6:07:33 PM UTC+2, Raymond Hall wrote:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/arts/music/bob-dylan-nobel-prize-literature.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=photo-spot-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

    There are bound to be some comments, but as a Dylan fan for musical merit (I possess most of his output), this award comes as a mild shock.

    Ray Hall, Taree
    It's a yuge shock to me. It's a massive, monumental middle finger to the entire literary world (of which, of course, the jury is a part, to a degree).

    It goes without saying that Bob Dylan is an epochal singer and songwriter, although in my mind that epoch closed about thirty years ago, or more. But he does not write poetry. He writes songs.

    Off the top of my head I can name dozens of poets who deserve the Nobel, after working for decades on their craft and mining their vision. To name one from the US, Louise Gluck.

    And there were rumors that the Albanian novelist Ismael Kadare was close, and some people are still thinking Philip Roth has a shot.

    All these writers, and many more who will never ever get close to international prizes, but do belong to the literary food chain, have now been told a guy who plays his songs to stadiums and has an alleged net worth of 75 million dollar needs the prize
    more.

    "...The times they are a-changin'" back to unknowns?

    (2022 Y. upload):

    "Who is Annie Ernaux? 2022 Winner of Nobel Prize in Literature"

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