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  • Re: Michelangeli-Carnival

    From Kolya Fokhin@21:1/5 to Neil on Fri Oct 7 19:33:23 2022
    On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 2:20:41 AM UTC-8, Neil wrote:
    - Lugano (Teatro Apollo), 21 May 1973 (Aura AUR 222-2; Music and Arts CD 817)
    This is on youtube.
    I stumbled across this thread while looking for information on the Altus version. I was familiar with the Testament and BBC versions from 1957 and the EMI version from 1975 and always liked the BBC best of the three, but the EMI, though it had the
    cleanest recorded sound, was so mannered that, with the opening and closing being framed by pieces from Album fur die Jugend, it almost felt like someone looking back over a work of youthful emotionality, that now only evokes regret, or perhaps more
    aptly, bitterness. To my great surprise and delight, the Tokyo version on Altus is, to my ears, wonderful! And the sound is clean without any obtrusive audience noise!

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  • From Andy Evans@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 8 02:58:36 2022
    I just listened to the 1973 Lugano performance on YT and enjoyed it. The sound was fine on my system, though there were some odd splice noises in it between numbers. I imprinted on Rachmaninov, but also enjoy Myra Hess, De Larrocha, Davidovich, Cortot
    etc.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Uozp_5JiQ&t=174s

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Andy Evans on Sat Oct 8 03:27:43 2022
    On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 2:58:38 AM UTC-7, Andy Evans wrote:

    I just listened to the 1973 Lugano performance on YT
    and enjoyed it. The sound was fine on my system,
    though there were some odd splice noises in it
    between numbers. I imprinted on Rachmaninov,
    but also enjoy Myra Hess, De Larrocha, Davidovich,
    Cortot etc.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Uozp_5JiQ

    ABM fans generally agree his 1957 London Carnaval
    is the "best":

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9uHp1gOPZo

    I am particularly fond of Fabienne Jacquinot's 1984
    performance:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgqOjVLtXEc

    dk

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  • From Andy Evans@21:1/5 to dan....@gmail.com on Sat Oct 8 04:47:01 2022
    On Saturday, 8 October 2022 at 11:27:45 UTC+1, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
    I am particularly fond of Fabienne Jacquinot's 1984
    performance:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgqOjVLtXEc > > dk

    Listening to it now - it's nice, thanks. Female pianists do well here - De Larrocha, Hess, Davidovich, Virsaladze, Novaes, Leonskaja..... probably more though I'm not keen on A.Fischer. I assume Clara played this piece in concerts?

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Andy Evans on Sat Oct 8 05:06:29 2022
    On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 4:47:03 AM UTC-7, Andy Evans wrote:
    On Saturday, 8 October 2022 at 11:27:45 UTC+1, dan....@gmail.com wrote:

    I am particularly fond of Fabienne Jacquinot's 1984
    performance:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgqOjVLtXEc

    Listening to it now - it's nice, thanks. Female pianists do
    well here - De Larrocha, Hess, Davidovich, Virsaladze,
    Novaes, Leonskaja..... probably more though I'm not
    keen on A.Fischer.

    Herman will punish you for posting gender biased
    comments! ;-)

    I assume Clara played this piece in concerts?

    Clara Who ?!?

    dk

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  • From JohnGavin@21:1/5 to dan....@gmail.com on Sat Oct 8 06:44:19 2022
    On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 8:06:31 AM UTC-4, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 4:47:03 AM UTC-7, Andy Evans wrote:
    On Saturday, 8 October 2022 at 11:27:45 UTC+1, dan....@gmail.com wrote:

    I am particularly fond of Fabienne Jacquinot's 1984
    performance:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgqOjVLtXEc

    Listening to it now - it's nice, thanks. Female pianists do
    well here - De Larrocha, Hess, Davidovich, Virsaladze,
    Novaes, Leonskaja..... probably more though I'm not
    keen on A.Fischer.
    Herman will punish you for posting gender biased
    comments! ;-)
    I assume Clara played this piece in concerts?
    Clara Who ?!?

    dk

    The 3 pianists at the top of my favorites list - Rachmaninov, Michelangeli and De Larrocha have all recorded Carnaval. For Michelangeli, I’d go with the 1957 Live recording on Testament or the Warner box, for DeLarrocha the earlier analog recording on
    Decca.

    I’m also curious to check out Cortot’s recording which was the first I’d ever heard in my early teen years.

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  • From Andy Evans@21:1/5 to dan....@gmail.com on Sat Oct 8 06:42:47 2022
    On Saturday, 8 October 2022 at 13:06:31 UTC+1, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
    I assume Clara played this piece in concerts?
    Clara Who ?!?
    dk

    Don't worry, I didn't mean Haskil...... danger over.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to JohnGavin on Sat Oct 8 09:34:35 2022
    On 2022-10-08 7:44 a.m., JohnGavin wrote:
    On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 8:06:31 AM UTC-4, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 4:47:03 AM UTC-7, Andy Evans wrote:
    On Saturday, 8 October 2022 at 11:27:45 UTC+1, dan....@gmail.com wrote: >>>>
    I am particularly fond of Fabienne Jacquinot's 1984
    performance:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgqOjVLtXEc

    Listening to it now - it's nice, thanks. Female pianists do
    well here - De Larrocha, Hess, Davidovich, Virsaladze,
    Novaes, Leonskaja..... probably more though I'm not
    keen on A.Fischer.
    Herman will punish you for posting gender biased
    comments! ;-)
    I assume Clara played this piece in concerts?
    Clara Who ?!?

    dk

    The 3 pianists at the top of my favorites list - Rachmaninov, Michelangeli and De Larrocha have all recorded Carnaval. For Michelangeli, I’d go with the 1957 Live recording on Testament or the Warner box, for DeLarrocha the earlier analog recording
    on Decca.

    I’m also curious to check out Cortot’s recording which was the first I’d ever heard in my early teen years.

    My favourite is Solomon.

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  • From JohnGavin@21:1/5 to Graham on Sat Oct 8 08:36:20 2022
    On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 11:34:41 AM UTC-4, Graham wrote:
    On 2022-10-08 7:44 a.m., JohnGavin wrote:
    On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 8:06:31 AM UTC-4, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 4:47:03 AM UTC-7, Andy Evans wrote:
    On Saturday, 8 October 2022 at 11:27:45 UTC+1, dan....@gmail.com wrote: >>>>
    I am particularly fond of Fabienne Jacquinot's 1984
    performance:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgqOjVLtXEc

    Listening to it now - it's nice, thanks. Female pianists do
    well here - De Larrocha, Hess, Davidovich, Virsaladze,
    Novaes, Leonskaja..... probably more though I'm not
    keen on A.Fischer.
    Herman will punish you for posting gender biased
    comments! ;-)
    I assume Clara played this piece in concerts?
    Clara Who ?!?

    dk

    The 3 pianists at the top of my favorites list - Rachmaninov, Michelangeli and De Larrocha have all recorded Carnaval. For Michelangeli, I’d go with the 1957 Live recording on Testament or the Warner box, for DeLarrocha the earlier analog recording
    on Decca.

    I’m also curious to check out Cortot’s recording which was the first I’d ever heard in my early teen years.
    My favourite is Solomon.

    Thanks. I will hear it.

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  • From AB@21:1/5 to Graham on Sat Oct 8 11:20:02 2022
    On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 11:34:41 AM UTC-4, Graham wrote:
    On 2022-10-08 7:44 a.m., JohnGavin wrote:
    On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 8:06:31 AM UTC-4, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 4:47:03 AM UTC-7, Andy Evans wrote:
    On Saturday, 8 October 2022 at 11:27:45 UTC+1, dan....@gmail.com wrote: >>>>
    I am particularly fond of Fabienne Jacquinot's 1984
    performance:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgqOjVLtXEc

    Listening to it now - it's nice, thanks. Female pianists do
    well here - De Larrocha, Hess, Davidovich, Virsaladze,
    Novaes, Leonskaja..... probably more though I'm not
    keen on A.Fischer.
    Herman will punish you for posting gender biased
    comments! ;-)
    I assume Clara played this piece in concerts?
    Clara Who ?!?

    dk

    The 3 pianists at the top of my favorites list - Rachmaninov, Michelangeli and De Larrocha have all recorded Carnaval. For Michelangeli, I’d go with the 1957 Live recording on Testament or the Warner box, for DeLarrocha the earlier analog recording
    on Decca.

    I’m also curious to check out Cortot’s recording which was the first I’d ever heard in my early teen years.
    My favourite is Solomon.

    heard him do it live in 1956 in CH, seemed a bit under powered but I know a lot more now (I hope) now:-))
    So far Sokolov is not mentioned...

    AB

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 9 01:44:36 2022
    On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 11:20:04 AM UTC-7, AB wrote:

    So far Sokolov is not mentioned...

    I find Sokolov too fussy and mannered in Carnaval.
    Sofronitsky is far more exciting:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15qWaImsJTY

    dk

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  • From Paolo Pesenti@21:1/5 to dan....@gmail.com on Mon Oct 10 16:03:25 2022
    On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 4:44:39 AM UTC-4, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 11:20:04 AM UTC-7, AB wrote:

    So far Sokolov is not mentioned...
    I find Sokolov too fussy and mannered in Carnaval.
    Sofronitsky is far more exciting:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15qWaImsJTY

    dk

    Agree. In my top 3 Carnavals with ABM 1957 and - of course - Rach 1929.

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Paolo Pesenti on Mon Oct 10 16:45:08 2022
    On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:03:39 PM UTC-7, Paolo Pesenti wrote:
    On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 4:44:39 AM UTC-4, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 11:20:04 AM UTC-7, AB wrote:

    So far Sokolov is not mentioned...
    I find Sokolov too fussy and mannered in Carnaval.
    Sofronitsky is far more exciting:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15qWaImsJTY

    Agree. In my top 3 Carnavals with ABM 1957 and - of course - Rach 1929.

    Have you heard Fabienne Jacquinot?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgqOjVLtXEc

    dk

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