• Re: Introduction to Persian Classical Music

    From Arash Ahmadzadeh Yoonesi@21:1/5 to cheregi on Mon Oct 31 15:52:37 2022
    On Wednesday, 13 July 2022 at 04:48:34 UTC+2, cheregi wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 9:53:09 PM UTC-4, Todd M. McComb wrote:
    It's interesting how you put that.
    I don't mean to say that that's why the music interests me! Just seemed relevant to your line of thought about makam composition...
    It seems that more attempts could be made to reconstruct the repertory facing Vienna in the eras of Mozart or Beethoven....
    Yes it's funny to be told that such and such drum rhythm in a Haydn or Beethoven symphony would've been understood as a reference to an Ottoman military band, but then be totally unable to listen to or even really read much about that outside the
    context of the reference...


    May be you can find some of you answers here: https://iranmusicology.com/

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  • From cheregi@21:1/5 to Arash Ahmadzadeh Yoonesi on Sun Nov 6 11:07:16 2022
    On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 6:52:40 PM UTC-4, Arash Ahmadzadeh Yoonesi wrote:
    On Wednesday, 13 July 2022 at 04:48:34 UTC+2, cheregi wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 9:53:09 PM UTC-4, Todd M. McComb wrote:
    It's interesting how you put that.
    I don't mean to say that that's why the music interests me! Just seemed relevant to your line of thought about makam composition...
    It seems that more attempts could be made to reconstruct the repertory facing Vienna in the eras of Mozart or Beethoven....
    Yes it's funny to be told that such and such drum rhythm in a Haydn or Beethoven symphony would've been understood as a reference to an Ottoman military band, but then be totally unable to listen to or even really read much about that outside the
    context of the reference...
    May be you can find some of you answers here: https://iranmusicology.com/

    Seems like a great resource! Though I'm not too excited by the prospect of wading through the clunkiness of google translate...

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  • From cheregi@21:1/5 to cheregi on Sun Nov 6 11:11:41 2022
    On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 2:07:18 PM UTC-5, cheregi wrote:
    On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 6:52:40 PM UTC-4, Arash Ahmadzadeh Yoonesi wrote:
    On Wednesday, 13 July 2022 at 04:48:34 UTC+2, cheregi wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 9:53:09 PM UTC-4, Todd M. McComb wrote:
    It's interesting how you put that.
    I don't mean to say that that's why the music interests me! Just seemed relevant to your line of thought about makam composition...
    It seems that more attempts could be made to reconstruct the repertory facing Vienna in the eras of Mozart or Beethoven....
    Yes it's funny to be told that such and such drum rhythm in a Haydn or Beethoven symphony would've been understood as a reference to an Ottoman military band, but then be totally unable to listen to or even really read much about that outside the
    context of the reference...
    May be you can find some of you answers here: https://iranmusicology.com/
    Seems like a great resource! Though I'm not too excited by the prospect of wading through the clunkiness of google translate...

    Anyway returning to this thread more broadly, I find that some of what I wrote in the linked article has turned out to be flatly wrong, phrased misleadingly, or just no longer how I feel, though the basic ideas still hold. I'm planning to write up an
    update when I find the time, and also pending a conversation with a friend of a friend who actually grew up with persian/iranian classical music and apparently has quite a lot to say to me!

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