• Vacation reading

    From Dean F.@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 28 05:02:04 2023
    I just kicked off a two-week vacation. Since it's too dark and cold to go bicycling, I plan to read a lot. I'm currently working on Matthew Ruddick's FUNKIEST MAN ALIVE: RUFUS THOMAS AND MEMPHIS SOUL. After that it's R.J. Smith's CHUCK BERRY: AN AMERICAN
    LIFE.

    Also in the queue:

    THE COLUMBO PHILE: A CASEBOOK, Mark Dawidziak (Not about music, of course.)

    FEEL LIKE GOING HOME, Peter Guralnick (Somehow, I've never read that one.)

    LAST TRAIN TO MEMPHIS: THE RISE OF ELVIS PRESLEY, Peter Guralnick (Replacement copy)

    RIP IT UP: THE SPECIALTY RECORDS STORY, Billy Vera

    SIXTEEN TONS: THE MERLE TRAVIS STORY, Merle Travis with Deke Dickerson

    WHAT WAS THE FIRST ROCK & ROLL RECORD?, Jim Dawson & Steve Propes (30th anniversary update of the 1992 original)

    Those ought to keep me busy for a while!

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  • From Bill B@21:1/5 to Bill B on Tue Nov 28 06:07:16 2023
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:59:45 AM UTC-5, Bill B wrote:


    Why don't you try some great fiction like the Natchez Burning trilogy by Greg Iles? Natchez Burning, The Bone Tree and Mississippi Blood are very long and very entertaining. If you can finish all three in two weeks, you're a better man than I am, Gunga
    Din.

    Here's the Amazon link:
    https://www.amazon.com/Natchez-Burning-Novel-Penn-Cage/dp/0062311085/ref=sr_1_1?crid=AS5YOG9MBVAN&keywords=natchez+burning&qid=1701180117&sprefix=natchez+burning%2Caps%2C139&sr=8-1

    Each book is about 800 pages long. Even though they are listed as books 4 through 6 of the Penn Cage saga, don't make the mistake of starting with the earlier volumes. Start with Natchez Burning.

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  • From Bill B@21:1/5 to Dean F. on Tue Nov 28 05:59:44 2023
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:02:07 AM UTC-5, Dean F. wrote:
    I just kicked off a two-week vacation. Since it's too dark and cold to go bicycling, I plan to read a lot. I'm currently working on Matthew Ruddick's FUNKIEST MAN ALIVE: RUFUS THOMAS AND MEMPHIS SOUL. After that it's R.J. Smith's CHUCK BERRY: AN
    AMERICAN LIFE.

    Also in the queue:

    THE COLUMBO PHILE: A CASEBOOK, Mark Dawidziak (Not about music, of course.)

    FEEL LIKE GOING HOME, Peter Guralnick (Somehow, I've never read that one.)

    LAST TRAIN TO MEMPHIS: THE RISE OF ELVIS PRESLEY, Peter Guralnick (Replacement copy)

    RIP IT UP: THE SPECIALTY RECORDS STORY, Billy Vera

    SIXTEEN TONS: THE MERLE TRAVIS STORY, Merle Travis with Deke Dickerson

    WHAT WAS THE FIRST ROCK & ROLL RECORD?, Jim Dawson & Steve Propes (30th anniversary update of the 1992 original)

    Those ought to keep me busy for a while!

    I do a lot of reading, though mostly crime fiction. But eight books in two weeks puts me to shame. I might read one a week.

    With rare exceptions like Chuck Berry: An American Life, my reading is done on my Kindle and I get all those books free through my local library online.

    Why don't you try some great fiction like the Natchez Burning trilogy by Greg Iles? Natchez Burning, The Bone Tree and Mississippi Blood are very long and very entertaining. If you can finish all three in two weeks, you're a better man than I am, Gunga
    Din.

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 28 10:32:37 2023
    On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 05:59:44 -0800 (PST), Bill B <bbug2@optonline.net>
    wrote:

    If you can finish all three {books} in two weeks, you're a better man than I am, Gunga Din.

    (Bill, you just needed a closing exclamation mark :-)

    The poem "Gunga Din" by English author Rudyard Kipling was published
    in 1892 in the collection Barrack-Room Ballads. The poem is told from
    the point of view of a British soldier. The title character is a
    faithful Hindu water carrier for the British Army in India who is shot
    and killed while carrying the wounded narrator to safety during a
    battle. Feeling racially superior, the British soldier had mistreated
    Gunga Din, but in the end—amid Gunga Din’s selflessness and
    bravery—the soldier regrets his behavior.

    The Poem in full:
    https://poets.org/poem/gunga-din

    the very last verse in the poem:

    Din! Din! Din!
    You Lazarushian-leather Gunga Din!
    Tho' I've belted you an' flayed you,
    By the livin' Gawd that made you,
    You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Bill B on Tue Nov 28 07:50:30 2023
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:59:45 AM UTC-5, Bill B wrote:

    I do a lot of reading, though mostly crime fiction.

    Yuk.

    Don't know about Dean, but I have absolutely no interest at all in reading any fiction. My favorite books of all time are the 2 Bill James Historical Abstracts and several of the Joel Whitburn and Galen Gart things. When I went to libraries as a kid I
    headed straight to the reference section.

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 28 13:36:08 2023
    On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 07:50:30 -0800 (PST), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
    wrote:

    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:59:45?AM UTC-5, Bill B wrote:

    I do a lot of reading, though mostly crime fiction.

    Yuk.

    Don't know about Dean, but I have absolutely no interest at all in reading any fiction.

    I much enjoyed fiction as a child, but it has very low priority now.

    My favorite books of all time are the 2 Bill James Historical Abstracts

    Roger, these are the holy books of baseball history and statistics.

    and several of the Joel Whitburn

    and Galen Gart things.

    he has authored many books on 50s R&B

    When I went to libraries as a kid I headed straight to the reference section.

    reading fiction has many benefits for children; it makes us more
    empathetic and broadens our horizons by introducing us to characters,
    concepts, and relationships beyond our everyday experiences;
    reading fiction can also help children develop their imagination, and
    can be a great way for children to learn about different cultures and historical periods

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to RWC on Tue Nov 28 12:07:01 2023
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 1:36:13 PM UTC-5, RWC wrote:

    reading fiction can also help children develop their imagination, and
    can be a great way for children to learn about different cultures and historical periods

    I think movies and other audio video shows do a better job of that than just reading. Going back to the 19th century and earlier all we had for that was reading, but I don't see any need for reading fiction in today's world.You can get a much fuller
    version of a story in a movie.

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  • From Bill B@21:1/5 to RWC on Tue Nov 28 12:30:54 2023
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 1:36:13 PM UTC-5, RWC wrote:


    I much enjoyed fiction as a child, but it has very low priority now.

    reading fiction has many benefits for children; it makes us more
    empathetic and broadens our horizons by introducing us to characters, concepts, and relationships beyond our everyday experiences;
    reading fiction can also help children develop their imagination, and
    can be a great way for children to learn about different cultures and historical periods

    Are you calling me a child?

    Here's a list of the 50 greatest fiction books of all time. https://thegreatestbooks.org/

    Not much there of interest to children. I've read a number of them.
    Sadly, no crime fiction made the list :-)

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  • From Dean F.@21:1/5 to Bill B on Tue Nov 28 15:27:18 2023
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 3:30:55 PM UTC-5, Bill B wrote:

    Here's a list of the 50 greatest fiction books of all time.

    I tried to read "Ulysses" once. I got about 75 pages in, realized I hadn't comprehended a thing, and gave up.

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  • From Dean F.@21:1/5 to Bill B on Tue Nov 28 15:25:06 2023
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:59:45 AM UTC-5, Bill B wrote:

    I do a lot of reading, though mostly crime fiction. But eight books in two weeks puts me to shame. I might read one a week.

    It's going to take me a few months to get through all those books! I stockpile them.

    I, too, read a lot of crime fiction. Just not at the moment.

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 28 19:06:55 2023
    On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 12:30:54 -0800 (PST), Bill B <bbug2@optonline.net>
    wrote:

    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 1:36:13?PM UTC-5, RWC wrote:

    I much enjoyed fiction as a child, but it has very low priority now.

    reading fiction has many benefits for children; it makes us more
    empathetic and broadens our horizons by introducing us to characters,
    concepts, and relationships beyond our everyday experiences;
    reading fiction can also help children develop their imagination, and
    can be a great way for children to learn about different cultures and
    historical periods

    Are you calling me a child?

    I nearly fell for it, Bill :-)

    low priority because I now prefer reading time to be used for learning
    *facts* (including alleged and current news) from non-fiction articles
    on a screen; I very much enjoy watching crime and comedy fiction on TV
    (and I've got Britbox for "Poirot", "A Touch of Frost", "Yes,
    Minister", "Black Adder", etc, etc)

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  • From Bob Roman@21:1/5 to Bill B on Tue Nov 28 17:50:13 2023
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:59:45 AM UTC-5, Bill B wrote:

    I do a lot of reading, though mostly crime fiction.

    Modern, or the classics -- Chandler, Hammett, Cain, etc?

    --
    BR,

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Bob Roman on Tue Nov 28 19:20:44 2023
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:50:15 PM UTC-5, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:59:45 AM UTC-5, Bill B wrote:
    I do a lot of reading, though mostly crime fiction.
    Modern, or the classics -- Chandler, Hammett, Cain, etc?

    He reads the classics, Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, The Flash, and The Justice League Of America. He can read them fast because there are large pictures that take up a lot of the space on each page.

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Nov 29 00:00:20 2023
    On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 at 03:20:46 UTC, Bruce wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:50:15 PM UTC-5, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:59:45 AM UTC-5, Bill B wrote:
    I do a lot of reading, though mostly crime fiction.

    Modern, or the classics -- Chandler, Hammett, Cain, etc?

    He reads the classics, Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, The Flash, and The Justice League Of America. He can read them fast because there are large pictures that take up a lot of the space on each page.

    HAH! NOW YOU'RE TALKIN'!!!

    As well as records my other big thing was comics and I still have a sizeable (and quite valuable) collection of the same going back to the late 50's.

    I was always a DC man myself---never went overboard for Marvel (sorry Stan) like most others did or for the earlier Fawcett (Miller over here) titles like Captain Marvel

    And I absolutely adored those old hoary,gory (but great) old EC titles like "Tales From The Crypt" and "Vault Of Horror"

    Happy days!!

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  • From Bill B@21:1/5 to Bob Roman on Wed Nov 29 02:44:19 2023
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:50:15 PM UTC-5, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:59:45 AM UTC-5, Bill B wrote:
    I do a lot of reading, though mostly crime fiction.
    Modern, or the classics -- Chandler, Hammett, Cain, etc?

    I'm past a smattering of classics and now read modern crime, and thrillers, including legal thrillers.
    Some of my favorites in random order are:

    Dennis Lehane
    Michael Connelly
    CJ Box
    Stephen King
    James Lee Burke
    JK Rowling
    Andrea Camilleri
    John Grisham
    Nelson DeMille
    Sheldon Siegal
    Paul Levine
    John Clancy

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  • From Bill B@21:1/5 to Bill B on Wed Nov 29 03:12:45 2023
    On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 5:44:21 AM UTC-5, Bill B wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:50:15 PM UTC-5, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:59:45 AM UTC-5, Bill B wrote:
    I do a lot of reading, though mostly crime fiction.
    Modern, or the classics -- Chandler, Hammett, Cain, etc?
    I'm past a smattering of classics and now read modern crime, and thrillers, including legal thrillers.
    Some of my favorites in random order are:

    Dennis Lehane
    Michael Connelly
    CJ Box
    Stephen King
    James Lee Burke
    JK Rowling
    Andrea Camilleri
    John Grisham
    Nelson DeMille
    Sheldon Siegal
    Paul Levine
    John Clancy

    I'll probably be thinking of others all day long. But let me add Walter Mosely now so I have at least one black author listed.

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  • From Bill B@21:1/5 to Bill B on Wed Nov 29 05:14:54 2023
    On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 6:12:46 AM UTC-5, Bill B wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 5:44:21 AM UTC-5, Bill B wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:50:15 PM UTC-5, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:59:45 AM UTC-5, Bill B wrote:
    I do a lot of reading, though mostly crime fiction.
    Modern, or the classics -- Chandler, Hammett, Cain, etc?
    I'm past a smattering of classics and now read modern crime, and thrillers, including legal thrillers.
    Some of my favorites in random order are:

    Dennis Lehane
    Michael Connelly
    CJ Box
    Stephen King
    James Lee Burke
    JK Rowling
    Andrea Camilleri
    John Grisham
    Nelson DeMille
    Sheldon Siegal
    Paul Levine
    John Clancy
    I'll probably be thinking of others all day long. But let me add Walter Mosely now so I have at least one black author listed.

    Don Winslow

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  • From Mark D.@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 29 14:42:05 2023
    On Nov 29, 2023 at 2:00:20 AM CST, "Roger Ford" <mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

    On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 at 03:20:46 UTC, Bruce wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:50:15 PM UTC-5, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:59:45 AM UTC-5, Bill B wrote:
    I do a lot of reading, though mostly crime fiction.

    Modern, or the classics -- Chandler, Hammett, Cain, etc?

    He reads the classics, Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, The Flash, and The >> Justice League Of America. He can read them fast because there are large
    pictures that take up a lot of the space on each page.

    HAH! NOW YOU'RE TALKIN'!!!

    As well as records my other big thing was comics and I still have a sizeable (and quite valuable) collection of the same going back to the late 50's.

    I was always a DC man myself---never went overboard for Marvel (sorry Stan) like most others did or for the earlier Fawcett (Miller over here) titles like
    Captain Marvel

    And I absolutely adored those old hoary,gory (but great) old EC titles like "Tales From The Crypt" and "Vault Of Horror"

    Happy days!!

    Our taste in comics is nearly as similar as our taste in music. EC was was the r'n'r of comics.

    --md

    remove "xx" for email

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to Bill B on Wed Nov 29 06:23:44 2023
    On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 at 13:14:55 UTC, Bill B wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 6:12:46 AM UTC-5, Bill B wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 5:44:21 AM UTC-5, Bill B wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:50:15 PM UTC-5, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:59:45 AM UTC-5, Bill B wrote:
    I do a lot of reading, though mostly crime fiction.
    Modern, or the classics -- Chandler, Hammett, Cain, etc?
    I'm past a smattering of classics and now read modern crime, and thrillers, including legal thrillers.
    Some of my favorites in random order are:

    Dennis Lehane
    Michael Connelly
    CJ Box
    Stephen King
    James Lee Burke
    JK Rowling
    Andrea Camilleri
    John Grisham
    Nelson DeMille
    Sheldon Siegal
    Paul Levine
    John Clancy
    I'll probably be thinking of others all day long. But let me add Walter Mosely now so I have at least one black author listed.

    Don Winslow

    .........Of The Navy?

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Mark D. on Wed Nov 29 06:53:40 2023
    On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 9:42:16 AM UTC-5, Mark D. wrote:
    On Nov 29, 2023 at 2:00:20 AM CST, "Roger Ford" <mari...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 at 03:20:46 UTC, Bruce wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:50:15 PM UTC-5, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:59:45 AM UTC-5, Bill B wrote:
    I do a lot of reading, though mostly crime fiction.

    Modern, or the classics -- Chandler, Hammett, Cain, etc?

    He reads the classics, Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, The Flash, and The
    Justice League Of America. He can read them fast because there are large >> pictures that take up a lot of the space on each page.

    HAH! NOW YOU'RE TALKIN'!!!

    As well as records my other big thing was comics and I still have a sizeable
    (and quite valuable) collection of the same going back to the late 50's.

    I was always a DC man myself---never went overboard for Marvel (sorry Stan)
    like most others did or for the earlier Fawcett (Miller over here) titles like
    Captain Marvel

    And I absolutely adored those old hoary,gory (but great) old EC titles like
    "Tales From The Crypt" and "Vault Of Horror"

    Happy days!!
    Our taste in comics is nearly as similar as our taste in music. EC was was the
    r'n'r of comics.

    I loved comics......until I got to around 11 years old. Haven't touched one since.

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  • From Dean F.@21:1/5 to DianeE on Wed Nov 29 14:15:10 2023
    On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 4:49:14 PM UTC-5, DianeE wrote:

    EC was off limits to me, but I always loved DC comics. As an adult I
    enjoy "graphic novels" a/k/a book-length comics, many on very serious subjects like Art Spiegelman's "Maus" (parts 1 and 2), Will Eisner's
    "The Plot," and Stan Mack's "Janet And Me." More recently I read the
    most banned book in America, "Gender Queer" by Maia Kobabe. Needless to
    say I don't think it should be banned.

    "Maus" blew me away!

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  • From DianeE@21:1/5 to Mark D. on Wed Nov 29 16:49:11 2023
    On 11/29/2023 9:42 AM, Mark D. wrote:
    On Nov 29, 2023 at 2:00:20 AM CST, "Roger Ford" <mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

    On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 at 03:20:46 UTC, Bruce wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:50:15 PM UTC-5, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:59:45 AM UTC-5, Bill B wrote:
    I do a lot of reading, though mostly crime fiction.

    Modern, or the classics -- Chandler, Hammett, Cain, etc?

    He reads the classics, Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, The Flash, and The >>> Justice League Of America. He can read them fast because there are large >>> pictures that take up a lot of the space on each page.

    HAH! NOW YOU'RE TALKIN'!!!

    As well as records my other big thing was comics and I still have a sizeable >> (and quite valuable) collection of the same going back to the late 50's.

    I was always a DC man myself---never went overboard for Marvel (sorry Stan) >> like most others did or for the earlier Fawcett (Miller over here) titles like
    Captain Marvel

    And I absolutely adored those old hoary,gory (but great) old EC titles like >> "Tales From The Crypt" and "Vault Of Horror"

    Happy days!!

    Our taste in comics is nearly as similar as our taste in music. EC was was the
    r'n'r of comics.
    ------------
    EC was off limits to me, but I always loved DC comics. As an adult I
    enjoy "graphic novels" a/k/a book-length comics, many on very serious
    subjects like Art Spiegelman's "Maus" (parts 1 and 2), Will Eisner's
    "The Plot," and Stan Mack's "Janet And Me." More recently I read the
    most banned book in America, "Gender Queer" by Maia Kobabe. Needless to
    say I don't think it should be banned.

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  • From Dean F.@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Nov 29 14:15:50 2023
    On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 9:53:43 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:

    I loved comics......until I got to around 11 years old. Haven't touched one since.

    I was 14 when I went full-time on books without pictures.

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