On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 06:28:43 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
wrote:
Tiny Bradshaw (ft. Tiny Kennedy): “Rippin’ & Runnin'” - KING 4547; JUNE 1952
YOUTUBE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQJU1nw4fZE
These black records are understandably following a contemporary
commercial formula but they are becoming tiresomely repetitive to
listen to n 2023.
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:52:41 PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 06:28:43 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
wrote:
Tiny Bradshaw (ft. Tiny Kennedy): “Rippin’ & Runnin'” - KING 4547; JUNE 1952These black records are understandably following a contemporary
YOUTUBE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQJU1nw4fZE
commercial formula but they are becoming tiresomely repetitive to
listen to n 2023.
Go listen to your non-repetitive white records like this shite:
Dick Dale & His Del-Tones - Misirlou - 1962
The Teddy Bears - Oh Why - 1959
Santo & Johnny - Sleep Walk - 1959
On Apr 27, 2023 at 7:00:50 PM CDT, "Bruce" <Sav...@aol.com> wrote:
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:52:41 PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 06:28:43 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
wrote:
Tiny Bradshaw (ft. Tiny Kennedy): “Rippin’ & Runnin'” - KING 4547; JUNE 1952These black records are understandably following a contemporary
YOUTUBE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQJU1nw4fZE
commercial formula but they are becoming tiresomely repetitive to
listen to n 2023.
Go listen to your non-repetitive white records like this shite:
Dick Dale & His Del-Tones - Misirlou - 1962
The Teddy Bears - Oh Why - 1959
Santo & Johnny - Sleep Walk - 1959I think a lot of people here consider "Sleep Walk" to be a good record.
And tons of people around the world consider that Dick Dale shite to be a great record, but both records suck IMO.
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:52:41=E2=80=AFPM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 06:28:43 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>=20
wrote:
Tiny Bradshaw (ft. Tiny Kennedy): =E2=80=9CRippin=E2=80=99 & Runnin'=E2= >=80=9D - KING 4547; JUNE 1952These black records are understandably following a contemporary=20
YOUTUBE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DgQJU1nw4fZE=20
=20
commercial formula but they are becoming tiresomely repetitive to=20
listen to n 2023.
Go listen to your non-repetitive white records like this shite:
Dick Dale & His Del-Tones - Misirlou - 1962
Santo & Johnny - Sleep Walk - 1959
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 10:49:32 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
And tons of people around the world consider that Dick Dale shite to be a great record, but both records suck IMO.
That's OK, Bruce. You're allowed to be wrong (and to pretentiously use British idioms, even though you're from New Jersey).
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 10:49:32=E2=80=AFPM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
And tons of people around the world consider that Dick Dale shite to be a=great record, but both records suck IMO.
That's OK, Bruce. You're allowed to be wrong (and to pretentiously use Brit= >ish idioms, even though you're from New Jersey).
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 21:37:06 -0700 (PDT), "Dean F."
<soule...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 10:49:32=E2=80=AFPM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
And tons of people around the world consider that Dick Dale shite to be a=great record, but both records suck IMO.
That's OK, Bruce. You're allowed to be wrong (and to pretentiously use Brit= >ish idioms, even though you're from New Jersey).I assume you're referring to "shite" as "British idiiom" but it seems
a little passe here nowadays. Don't hear it round these parts much
anymore
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 1:36:55 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 21:37:06 -0700 (PDT), "Dean F."
<soule...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 10:49:32=E2=80=AFPM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:I assume you're referring to "shite" as "British idiiom" but it seems
And tons of people around the world consider that Dick Dale shite to be a= >>> great record, but both records suck IMO.
That's OK, Bruce. You're allowed to be wrong (and to pretentiously use Brit=
ish idioms, even though you're from New Jersey).
a little passe here nowadays. Don't hear it round these parts much
anymore
But the British say "cunt" all the time now.
"Cunt" is often used as a disparaging and obscene term for a woman in the United States, an unpleasant or stupid man or woman in the United Kingdom, or a contemptible man in Australia and New Zealand. However, in Australia and New
Zealand it can also be a neutral or positive term when used with a positive qualifier (e.g., "He's a good cunt"). The term has various derivative senses, including adjective and verb uses.
In 2006, feminist writer and English professor Germaine Greer argued that "'cunt' is one of the few remaining words in the English language with a genuine power to shock."
Cunt is one of the most offensive and hateful words in the English language. The exact origins of the word cunt are unknown, but it's recorded in the early
1200s as the name of a street in Oxford, England called Gropecuntlane, apparently a reference to prostitution. Both Chaucer and Shakespeare made puns
on cunt.
Use of the word as a term of abuse is relatively recent, dating from the late nineteenth century.[The word appears not to have been taboo in the Middle Ages, but became taboo towards the end of the eighteenth century, and was then
not generally admissible in print until the latter part of the twentieth century.
The etymology of cunt is a matter of debate, but most sources consider the word to have derived from a Germanic word (Proto-Germanic *kuntō, stem *kuntōn-), which appeared as kunta in Old Norse. Scholars are uncertain of the
origin of the Proto-Germanic form itself.[9] There are cognates in most Germanic languages, most of which also have the same meaning as the English cunt, such as the Swedish, Faroese and Nynorsk kunta; West Frisian and Middle Low German kunte; another Middle Low German kutte; Middle High German kotze (meaning "prostitute"); modern German kott; Middle Dutch conte; modern Dutch words kut (same meaning) and kont ("butt", "arse"); and perhaps Old English cot.
The etymology of the Proto-Germanic term is disputed. It may have arisen by Grimm's law operating on the Proto-Indo-European root *gen/gon "create, become" seen in gonads, genital, gamete, genetics, gene, or the Proto-Indo-European root *gʷneh₂/guneh₂ "woman" (Greek: gunê, seen in gynaecology). Relationships to similar-sounding words such as the Latin cunnus
("vulva"), and its derivatives French con, Spanish coño, and Portuguese cona,
or in Persian kos (کُس), have not been conclusively demonstrated. Other Latin
words related to cunnus are cuneus ("wedge") and its derivative cunēre ("to fasten with a wedge", (figurative) "to squeeze in"), leading to English words such as cuneiform ("wedge-shaped"). In Middle English, cunt appeared with many
spellings, such as coynte, cunte and queynte, which did not always reflect the
actual pronunciation of the word.
The word, in its modern meaning, is attested in Middle English. Proverbs of Hendyng, a manuscript from some time before 1325, includes the advice:
Ȝeue þi cunte to cunnig and craue affetir wedding.
(Give your cunt wisely and make [your] demands after the wedding.)
On Apr 27, 2023 at 7:00:50 PM CDT, "Bruce" <SavoyBG@aol.com> wrote:----------
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:52:41 PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 06:28:43 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
wrote:
Tiny Bradshaw (ft. Tiny Kennedy): “Rippin’ & Runnin'” - KING 4547; JUNE 1952These black records are understandably following a contemporary
YOUTUBE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQJU1nw4fZE
commercial formula but they are becoming tiresomely repetitive to
listen to n 2023.
Go listen to your non-repetitive white records like this shite:
Dick Dale & His Del-Tones - Misirlou - 1962
The Teddy Bears - Oh Why - 1959
Santo & Johnny - Sleep Walk - 1959
I think a lot of people here consider "Sleep Walk" to be a good record.
I think a lot of people here consider "Sleep Walk" to be a good record.
On 4/27/2023 10:40 PM, Mark D. wrote:
On Apr 27, 2023 at 7:00:50 PM CDT, "Bruce" <SavoyBG@aol.com> wrote:----------
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:52:41 PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 06:28:43 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
wrote:
Tiny Bradshaw (ft. Tiny Kennedy): “Rippin’ & Runnin'” - KING 4547; >>>>> JUNE 1952These black records are understandably following a contemporary
YOUTUBE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQJU1nw4fZE
commercial formula but they are becoming tiresomely repetitive to
listen to n 2023.
Go listen to your non-repetitive white records like this shite:
Dick Dale & His Del-Tones - Misirlou - 1962
The Teddy Bears - Oh Why - 1959
Santo & Johnny - Sleep Walk - 1959
I think a lot of people here consider "Sleep Walk" to be a good record.
And I'm one of them--I bought it in 1959 and still like it.
On 4/28/2023 12:23 PM, DianeE wrote:
On 4/27/2023 10:40 PM, Mark D. wrote:
On Apr 27, 2023 at 7:00:50 PM CDT, "Bruce" <SavoyBG@aol.com> wrote:----------
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:52:41 PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 06:28:43 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
wrote:
Tiny Bradshaw (ft. Tiny Kennedy): “Rippin’ & Runnin'” - KING 4547; >>>>>> JUNE 1952These black records are understandably following a contemporary
YOUTUBE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQJU1nw4fZE
commercial formula but they are becoming tiresomely repetitive to
listen to n 2023.
Go listen to your non-repetitive white records like this shite:
Dick Dale & His Del-Tones - Misirlou - 1962
The Teddy Bears - Oh Why - 1959
Santo & Johnny - Sleep Walk - 1959
I think a lot of people here consider "Sleep Walk" to be a good record.
And I'm one of them--I bought it in 1959 and still like it.
Mee too.
In fact, I use it for the soundtrack on some of my videos, most
recently Kauai waves. It was a very nice fit.
On Apr 28, 2023 at 4:52:52 PM CDT, "Steve Mc" <steve...@>
wrote:
In fact, I use it for the soundtrack on some of my videos, mostThat's because, despite what Bill said, it's much closer to Hawaiian music than r'n'r.
recently Kauai waves. It was a very nice fit.
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 10:48:10 PM UTC-4, Mark D. wrote:
On Apr 28, 2023 at 4:52:52 PM CDT, "Steve Mc" <steve...@>
wrote:
In fact, I use it for the soundtrack on some of my videos, mostThat's because, despite what Bill said, it's much closer to Hawaiian music >> than r'n'r.
recently Kauai waves. It was a very nice fit.
I remember when members of this group gave me a hard time calling "Sleep Walk"
R&R, and Jim agreed with me.
On Apr 29, 2023 at 8:55:15 AM CDT, "Bill B" <bb...@optonline.net> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 10:48:10 PM UTC-4, Mark D. wrote:
On Apr 28, 2023 at 4:52:52 PM CDT, "Steve Mc" <steve...@>
wrote:
In fact, I use it for the soundtrack on some of my videos, mostThat's because, despite what Bill said, it's much closer to Hawaiian music
recently Kauai waves. It was a very nice fit.
than r'n'r.
I remember when members of this group gave me a hard time calling "Sleep Walk"Well it doesn't rock and it doesn't roll--it flows--but I've always thought genre arguments about oddball hits were pointless.
R&R, and Jim agreed with me.
On Apr 29, 2023 at 8:55:15 AM CDT, "Bill B" <bbug2@optonline.net> wrote:--------------
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 10:48:10 PM UTC-4, Mark D. wrote:
On Apr 28, 2023 at 4:52:52 PM CDT, "Steve Mc" <steve...@>
wrote:
In fact, I use it for the soundtrack on some of my videos, mostThat's because, despite what Bill said, it's much closer to Hawaiian music >>> than r'n'r.
recently Kauai waves. It was a very nice fit.
I remember when members of this group gave me a hard time calling "Sleep Walk"
R&R, and Jim agreed with me.
Well it doesn't rock and it doesn't roll--it flows--but I've always thought genre arguments about oddball hits were pointless.
On 4/29/2023 10:13 AM, Mark D. wrote:
On Apr 29, 2023 at 8:55:15 AM CDT, "Bill B" <bb...@optonline.net> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 10:48:10 PM UTC-4, Mark D. wrote:
On Apr 28, 2023 at 4:52:52 PM CDT, "Steve Mc" <steve...@>
wrote:
In fact, I use it for the soundtrack on some of my videos, mostThat's because, despite what Bill said, it's much closer to Hawaiian music
recently Kauai waves. It was a very nice fit.
than r'n'r.
I remember when members of this group gave me a hard time calling "Sleep Walk"
R&R, and Jim agreed with me.
Well it doesn't rock and it doesn't roll--it flows--but I've always thought--------------
genre arguments about oddball hits were pointless.
I agree 100%.
"Rock & roll" in 1959 meant anything that was marketed to teenagers, including artists like Paul Anka and Bobby Darin who made *mainly* pop records, and also including novelty instrumentals like "Quiet Village."
On Apr 29, 2023 at 8:55:15 AM CDT, "Bill B" <> wrote:
That's because, despite what Bill said, it's much closer to Hawaiian music
than r'n'r.
I remember when members of this group gave me a hard time calling "Sleep Walk"
R&R, and Jim agreed with me.
Well it doesn't rock and it doesn't roll--it flows--but I've always thought genre arguments about oddball hits were pointless.
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 10:13:44 AM UTC-4, Mark D. wrote:
On Apr 29, 2023 at 8:55:15 AM CDT, "Bill B" <> wrote:
That's because, despite what Bill said, it's much closer to Hawaiian music >>>> than r'n'r.
I remember when members of this group gave me a hard time calling "Sleep Walk"
R&R, and Jim agreed with me.
Well it doesn't rock and it doesn't roll--it flows--but I've always thought >> genre arguments about oddball hits were pointless.
Then why did you start one? :-)
On 4/29/2023 10:13 AM, Mark D. wrote:
On Apr 29, 2023 at 8:55:15 AM CDT, "Bill B" <bbug2@optonline.net> wrote:--------------
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 10:48:10 PM UTC-4, Mark D. wrote:
On Apr 28, 2023 at 4:52:52 PM CDT, "Steve Mc" <steve...@>
wrote:
In fact, I use it for the soundtrack on some of my videos, mostThat's because, despite what Bill said, it's much closer to Hawaiian music >>>> than r'n'r.
recently Kauai waves. It was a very nice fit.
I remember when members of this group gave me a hard time calling "Sleep Walk"
R&R, and Jim agreed with me.
Well it doesn't rock and it doesn't roll--it flows--but I've always thought >> genre arguments about oddball hits were pointless.
I agree 100%.
"Rock & roll" in 1959 meant anything that was marketed to teenagers, including artists like Paul Anka and Bobby Darin who made *mainly* pop records, and also including novelty instrumentals like "Quiet Village."
By today's standards, much of what was called R&R back then...isn't.
But then again, much of today's music which is referred to as "Pop"
sounds like R&R to me (e.g. Taylor Swift or the Jonas Brothers).
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:27:41 AM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:-----------
On 4/29/2023 10:13 AM, Mark D. wrote:
On Apr 29, 2023 at 8:55:15 AM CDT, "Bill B" <bb...@optonline.net> wrote: >>>--------------
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 10:48:10 PM UTC-4, Mark D. wrote:
On Apr 28, 2023 at 4:52:52 PM CDT, "Steve Mc" <steve...@>
wrote:
In fact, I use it for the soundtrack on some of my videos, mostThat's because, despite what Bill said, it's much closer to Hawaiian music
recently Kauai waves. It was a very nice fit.
than r'n'r.
I remember when members of this group gave me a hard time calling "Sleep Walk"
R&R, and Jim agreed with me.
Well it doesn't rock and it doesn't roll--it flows--but I've always thought >>> genre arguments about oddball hits were pointless.
I agree 100%.
"Rock & roll" in 1959 meant anything that was marketed to teenagers,
including artists like Paul Anka and Bobby Darin who made *mainly* pop
records, and also including novelty instrumentals like "Quiet Village."
"QV" was NEVER known as rock and roll. It's Exotica.
The WIKI page for QV.
Genre Exotica, Space age pop
From the album Quiet Village: The Exotic Sounds of Martin Denny
On 4/29/2023 11:40 AM, Bruce wrote:
"Rock & roll" in 1959 meant anything that was marketed to teenagers,
including artists like Paul Anka and Bobby Darin who made *mainly* pop
records, and also including novelty instrumentals like "Quiet Village."
"QV" was NEVER known as rock and roll. It's Exotica.
The WIKI page for QV.
Genre Exotica, Space age pop
From the album Quiet Village: The Exotic Sounds of Martin Denny-----------
I assure you, no one would have said, in 1959, "Oh, that's Space age
pop." It was played on the Top 40 (or top however-many) radio station,
aimed at a teenage audience, and thus assumed to be rock & roll.
I liked it and bought the record.
Do you think "Witch Doctor" and "Purple People Eater" are R&R? Not now, they're not, but in the 1950s they were lumped into that category
because R&R was about who they were marketed to, not what they actually sounded like.
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 6:03:05 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:Cards" and "The Three Bells" and "Lonely Street" Andy Williams and "Night" and "The Village Of St. Bernadette" were not rock and roll. As far as what they were "aimed" at, they were aimed at whoever might like it and buy it. Everybody here likes certain
On 4/29/2023 11:40 AM, Bruce wrote:
-----------"Rock & roll" in 1959 meant anything that was marketed to teenagers,"QV" was NEVER known as rock and roll. It's Exotica.
including artists like Paul Anka and Bobby Darin who made *mainly* pop >>>> records, and also including novelty instrumentals like "Quiet Village." >>>
The WIKI page for QV.
Genre Exotica, Space age pop
From the album Quiet Village: The Exotic Sounds of Martin Denny
I assure you, no one would have said, in 1959, "Oh, that's Space age
pop." It was played on the Top 40 (or top however-many) radio station,
aimed at a teenage audience, and thus assumed to be rock & roll.
First off, I don't agree that it was aimed at a teenage audience. Secondly, lots of stuff on Top 40 radio in those days was not rock and roll and was not aimed at a teenage audience. Big hits like "Calcutta" and "Exodus" and "So Rare" and "Deck Of
-----------I liked it and bought the record.
That proves nothing. You like lots of non rock and roll, like "Smile" by King Cole and "Young At Heart" by Sinatra.
-----------Do you think "Witch Doctor" and "Purple People Eater" are R&R? Not now,
they're not, but in the 1950s they were lumped into that category
because R&R was about who they were marketed to, not what they actually
sounded like.
I'd say both were and still are rock and roll novelties.
On 4/29/2023 6:25 PM, Bruce wrote:Cards" and "The Three Bells" and "Lonely Street" Andy Williams and "Night" and "The Village Of St. Bernadette" were not rock and roll. As far as what they were "aimed" at, they were aimed at whoever might like it and buy it. Everybody here likes certain
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 6:03:05 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
On 4/29/2023 11:40 AM, Bruce wrote:
-----------"Rock & roll" in 1959 meant anything that was marketed to teenagers, >>>> including artists like Paul Anka and Bobby Darin who made *mainly* pop >>>> records, and also including novelty instrumentals like "Quiet Village." >>>"QV" was NEVER known as rock and roll. It's Exotica.
The WIKI page for QV.
Genre Exotica, Space age pop
From the album Quiet Village: The Exotic Sounds of Martin Denny
I assure you, no one would have said, in 1959, "Oh, that's Space age
pop." It was played on the Top 40 (or top however-many) radio station,
aimed at a teenage audience, and thus assumed to be rock & roll.
First off, I don't agree that it was aimed at a teenage audience. Secondly, lots of stuff on Top 40 radio in those days was not rock and roll and was not aimed at a teenage audience. Big hits like "Calcutta" and "Exodus" and "So Rare" and "Deck Of
I liked it and bought the record.
That proves nothing. You like lots of non rock and roll, like "Smile" by King Cole and "Young At Heart" by Sinatra.-----------
Yes, I like them, but I heard them on my mother's radio station, not on
WINS or WMGM. That's the point. We referred to the stations that
catered to young people as rock & roll radio, and we referred to the
music they played as rock & roll.
I was too young to listen to Alan Freed and had no older siblings, so I never heard of him until he got into trouble...but what he meant by rock
& roll quickly changed into, as I said, a marketing category.
------------
Do you think "Witch Doctor" and "Purple People Eater" are R&R? Not now, >> they're not, but in the 1950s they were lumped into that category
because R&R was about who they were marketed to, not what they actually >> sounded like.
I'd say both were and still are rock and roll novelties.-----------
Well, you can dance to "Purple People Eater" if you really try hard...."Witch Doctor" not so much.
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