• Carman Moore On Meeting Yoko (1973)

    From Norbert K@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 8 04:53:56 2022
    Carman Moore is a composer and writer who interviewed Yoko Ono for the Village Voice in 1973. A frustrated-sounding Moore reported on the meeting as follows:

    "We kept drifting off my pre-arranged questions into mysticism and other worlds."

    According to Yoko, "There was a time when so many bad wishes and bad vibrations were being sent our way that we had no desire to go out. Now that we know those people are more than balanced by people who love us and what we're doing, we could but don't."


    "And there," wrote Moore, "we were talking mysticism again. About how Janov's hard-line anti-mystical six-month session turned her off to primal therapy. About how her pre-Lennon search for a music that would vibrate whole communities harmoniously led
    to the Beatles. About how a search for world understanding musy lead away from Webern's unorganic sounds must lead to the heartbeat music of rock & roll."

    Moore admitted to being left with a sense that he knew "absolutely nothing" about Ono; "she is eljusive," he concluded, "as eel's skin dipped in hot seal fat."

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Sat Jan 8 04:57:59 2022
    On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 7:53:57 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    Carman Moore is a composer and writer who interviewed Yoko Ono for the Village Voice in 1973. A frustrated-sounding Moore reported on the meeting as follows:

    "We kept drifting off my pre-arranged questions into mysticism and other worlds."

    According to Yoko, "There was a time when so many bad wishes and bad vibrations were being sent our way that we had no desire to go out. Now that we know those people are more than balanced by people who love us and what we're doing, we could but don't.
    "

    "And there," wrote Moore, "we were talking mysticism again. About how Janov's hard-line anti-mystical six-month session turned her off to primal therapy. About how her pre-Lennon search for a music that would vibrate whole communities harmoniously led
    to the Beatles. About how a search for world understanding musy lead away from Webern's unorganic sounds must lead to the heartbeat music of rock & roll."

    Moore admitted to being left with a sense that he knew "absolutely nothing" about Ono; "she is eljusive," he concluded, "as eel's skin dipped in hot seal fat."

    Moore is still around:

    https://www.carmanmoore.com

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  • From Pamela Brown@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Mon Jan 10 05:22:24 2022
    On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 6:53:57 AM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:
    Carman Moore is a composer and writer who interviewed Yoko Ono for the Village Voice in 1973. A frustrated-sounding Moore reported on the meeting as follows:

    "We kept drifting off my pre-arranged questions into mysticism and other worlds."

    According to Yoko, "There was a time when so many bad wishes and bad vibrations were being sent our way that we had no desire to go out. Now that we know those people are more than balanced by people who love us and what we're doing, we could but don't.
    "

    "And there," wrote Moore, "we were talking mysticism again. About how Janov's hard-line anti-mystical six-month session turned her off to primal therapy. About how her pre-Lennon search for a music that would vibrate whole communities harmoniously led
    to the Beatles. About how a search for world understanding musy lead away from Webern's unorganic sounds must lead to the heartbeat music of rock & roll."

    Moore admitted to being left with a sense that he knew "absolutely nothing" about Ono; "she is eljusive," he concluded, "as eel's skin dipped in hot seal fat."
    Fascinating...in other words, a phony?

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  • From Emma Smulders@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 10 05:39:26 2022
    Op maandag 10 januari 2022 om 14:22:28 UTC+1 schreef pamel...@gmail.com:
    On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 6:53:57 AM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:
    Carman Moore is a composer and writer who interviewed Yoko Ono for the Village Voice in 1973. A frustrated-sounding Moore reported on the meeting as follows:

    "We kept drifting off my pre-arranged questions into mysticism and other worlds."

    According to Yoko, "There was a time when so many bad wishes and bad vibrations were being sent our way that we had no desire to go out. Now that we know those people are more than balanced by people who love us and what we're doing, we could but don'
    t."

    "And there," wrote Moore, "we were talking mysticism again. About how Janov's hard-line anti-mystical six-month session turned her off to primal therapy. About how her pre-Lennon search for a music that would vibrate whole communities harmoniously
    led to the Beatles. About how a search for world understanding musy lead away from Webern's unorganic sounds must lead to the heartbeat music of rock & roll."

    Moore admitted to being left with a sense that he knew "absolutely nothing" about Ono; "she is eljusive," he concluded, "as eel's skin dipped in hot seal fat."
    Fascinating...in other words, a phony?


    Was this before or after the lost weekend had begun? And did he ever meet John as well?

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to Emma Smulders on Mon Jan 10 06:00:45 2022
    On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 8:39:28 AM UTC-5, Emma Smulders wrote:
    Op maandag 10 januari 2022 om 14:22:28 UTC+1 schreef pamel...@gmail.com:
    On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 6:53:57 AM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:
    Carman Moore is a composer and writer who interviewed Yoko Ono for the Village Voice in 1973. A frustrated-sounding Moore reported on the meeting as follows:

    "We kept drifting off my pre-arranged questions into mysticism and other worlds."

    According to Yoko, "There was a time when so many bad wishes and bad vibrations were being sent our way that we had no desire to go out. Now that we know those people are more than balanced by people who love us and what we're doing, we could but
    don't."

    "And there," wrote Moore, "we were talking mysticism again. About how Janov's hard-line anti-mystical six-month session turned her off to primal therapy. About how her pre-Lennon search for a music that would vibrate whole communities harmoniously
    led to the Beatles. About how a search for world understanding musy lead away from Webern's unorganic sounds must lead to the heartbeat music of rock & roll."

    Moore admitted to being left with a sense that he knew "absolutely nothing" about Ono; "she is eljusive," he concluded, "as eel's skin dipped in hot seal fat."
    Fascinating...in other words, a phony?
    Was this before or after the lost weekend had begun? And did he ever meet John as well?

    Moore's piece on Yoko appeared in the Village Voice on February 1 of 1973, so this was several months before John and May left for Los Angeles.

    Yoko may have become attracted to David Spinozza at the time of the Moore interview, however.

    I don't know that Moore ever met John.

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to pamel...@gmail.com on Mon Jan 10 06:05:17 2022
    On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 8:22:28 AM UTC-5, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 6:53:57 AM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:
    Carman Moore is a composer and writer who interviewed Yoko Ono for the Village Voice in 1973. A frustrated-sounding Moore reported on the meeting as follows:

    "We kept drifting off my pre-arranged questions into mysticism and other worlds."

    According to Yoko, "There was a time when so many bad wishes and bad vibrations were being sent our way that we had no desire to go out. Now that we know those people are more than balanced by people who love us and what we're doing, we could but don'
    t."

    "And there," wrote Moore, "we were talking mysticism again. About how Janov's hard-line anti-mystical six-month session turned her off to primal therapy. About how her pre-Lennon search for a music that would vibrate whole communities harmoniously
    led to the Beatles. About how a search for world understanding musy lead away from Webern's unorganic sounds must lead to the heartbeat music of rock & roll."

    Moore admitted to being left with a sense that he knew "absolutely nothing" about Ono; "she is eljusive," he concluded, "as eel's skin dipped in hot seal fat."
    Fascinating...in other words, a phony?

    Yes, that's my interpretation. Yoko was laying a bunch of jive on Moore.

    Yoko loved to name-drop Webern. I will bet anything that she is merely copying her former husband (classical composer for REAL) Toshi Ichiyanagi in this regard. He is the one who knew about Webern. Yoko drops Webern's name in pretense of appearing
    educated in classical composition.

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