Actually, I rate Ringo extremely highly, but we've all heard the quote:
Someone: Ringo, of course, wasn't the best drummer in the world...
Someone else: He wasn't even the best drummer in The Beatles!
My question is, where did it originate? I've seen it attributed to John
and other people, but can anyone actually point to the interview/article where this first appeared?
Just one of those things that's bothered me for years...
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On Sunday, March 18, 2012 at 5:37:19 PM UTC-4, Home Guard Chris wrote:sounds kinda like one of John's offhand quips, but I don't know what to believe.
Actually, I rate Ringo extremely highly, but we've all heard the quote:
Someone: Ringo, of course, wasn't the best drummer in the world...
Someone else: He wasn't even the best drummer in The Beatles!
My question is, where did it originate? I've seen it attributed to John
and other people, but can anyone actually point to the interview/article
where this first appeared?
Just one of those things that's bothered me for years...
--
My band: feedback always welcome
- www.thehomeguard.info/music.html
I just heard this yesterday from someone who worships the Beatles. He says Lennon said this thing. Of course, he also says that there is no way to play a chord on the bass. Anyway, I asked him where exactly John said it, and he couldn't tell me. It
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 at 5:37:19 PM UTC-4, Home Guard Chris wrote:sounds kinda like one of John's offhand quips, but I don't know what to believe.
Actually, I rate Ringo extremely highly, but we've all heard the quote:
Someone: Ringo, of course, wasn't the best drummer in the world...
Someone else: He wasn't even the best drummer in The Beatles!
My question is, where did it originate? I've seen it attributed to John
and other people, but can anyone actually point to the interview/article
where this first appeared?
Just one of those things that's bothered me for years...
--
My band: feedback always welcome
- www.thehomeguard.info/music.html
I just heard this yesterday from someone who worships the Beatles. He says Lennon said this thing. Of course, he also says that there is no way to play a chord on the bass. Anyway, I asked him where exactly John said it, and he couldn't tell me. It
On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 07:01:46 -0800 (PST), Joe Mahoneysounds kinda like one of John's offhand quips, but I don't know what to believe.
<joemaho...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 at 5:37:19 PM UTC-4, Home Guard Chris wrote:
Actually, I rate Ringo extremely highly, but we've all heard the quote: >>
Someone: Ringo, of course, wasn't the best drummer in the world...
Someone else: He wasn't even the best drummer in The Beatles!
My question is, where did it originate? I've seen it attributed to John >> and other people, but can anyone actually point to the interview/article >> where this first appeared?
Just one of those things that's bothered me for years...
--
My band: feedback always welcome
- www.thehomeguard.info/music.html
I just heard this yesterday from someone who worships the Beatles. He says Lennon said this thing. Of course, he also says that there is no way to play a chord on the bass. Anyway, I asked him where exactly John said it, and he couldn't tell me. It
Regardless, Ringo is a very good drummer. Pete Best didn't have the
right "look" for The Beatles. He looked like he was a banker. Epstein
saw that.
Actually, I rate Ringo extremely highly, but we've all heard the quote:
Someone: Ringo, of course, wasn't the best drummer in the world...
Someone else: He wasn't even the best drummer in The Beatles!
My question is, where did it originate? I've seen it attributed to John
and other people, but can anyone actually point to the interview/article where this first appeared?
Just one of those things that's bothered me for years...
--
My band: feedback always welcome
- www.thehomeguard.info/music.html
On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 10:31:28 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:sounds kinda like one of John's offhand quips, but I don't know what to believe.
On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 07:01:46 -0800 (PST), Joe Mahoney
<joemaho...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 at 5:37:19 PM UTC-4, Home Guard Chris wrote:
Actually, I rate Ringo extremely highly, but we've all heard the quote: >> >>
Someone: Ringo, of course, wasn't the best drummer in the world...
Someone else: He wasn't even the best drummer in The Beatles!
My question is, where did it originate? I've seen it attributed to John >> >> and other people, but can anyone actually point to the interview/article >> >> where this first appeared?
Just one of those things that's bothered me for years...
--
My band: feedback always welcome
- www.thehomeguard.info/music.html
I just heard this yesterday from someone who worships the Beatles. He says Lennon said this thing. Of course, he also says that there is no way to play a chord on the bass. Anyway, I asked him where exactly John said it, and he couldn't tell me. It
his being replaced.Regardless, Ringo is a very good drummer. Pete Best didn't have the
right "look" for The Beatles. He looked like he was a banker. Epstein
saw that.
I've read so many far-fetched "theories" on this. When I finally heard a sample of Best's drumming, I saw that there was no need for any of the silly spectulations. Best couldn't keep time and was a lousy drummer. That alone is sufficient to explain
Factor in that his personality didn't mesh with the others', etc., and it's surprising they kept him as long as they did.
On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 02:44:56 -0800 (PST), Norbert Ksounds kinda like one of John's offhand quips, but I don't know what to believe.
<norbert...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 10:31:28 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 07:01:46 -0800 (PST), Joe Mahoney
<joemaho...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 at 5:37:19 PM UTC-4, Home Guard Chris wrote: >> >> Actually, I rate Ringo extremely highly, but we've all heard the quote:
Someone: Ringo, of course, wasn't the best drummer in the world...
Someone else: He wasn't even the best drummer in The Beatles!
My question is, where did it originate? I've seen it attributed to John
and other people, but can anyone actually point to the interview/article
where this first appeared?
Just one of those things that's bothered me for years...
--
My band: feedback always welcome
- www.thehomeguard.info/music.html
I just heard this yesterday from someone who worships the Beatles. He says Lennon said this thing. Of course, he also says that there is no way to play a chord on the bass. Anyway, I asked him where exactly John said it, and he couldn't tell me. It
his being replaced.Regardless, Ringo is a very good drummer. Pete Best didn't have the
right "look" for The Beatles. He looked like he was a banker. Epstein
saw that.
I've read so many far-fetched "theories" on this. When I finally heard a sample of Best's drumming, I saw that there was no need for any of the silly spectulations. Best couldn't keep time and was a lousy drummer. That alone is sufficient to explain
The funny thing is Ringo is a much better drummer than Paul.Factor in that his personality didn't mesh with the others', etc., and it's surprising they kept him as long as they did.Not to forget that "The Beatles: John, Paul, George and Pete" doesn't
sound like a successful band.
I imagine Ringo's name had a small part in the decision. George
Michael and Brian Epstein were entertainment geniuses. It was about
"image" as much as their music.
On Tuesday, November 9, 2021 at 11:46:11 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:It sounds kinda like one of John's offhand quips, but I don't know what to believe.
On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 02:44:56 -0800 (PST), Norbert K
<norbert...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 10:31:28 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 07:01:46 -0800 (PST), Joe Mahoney
<joemaho...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 at 5:37:19 PM UTC-4, Home Guard Chris wrote: >> >> Actually, I rate Ringo extremely highly, but we've all heard the quote:
Someone: Ringo, of course, wasn't the best drummer in the world... >> >> Someone else: He wasn't even the best drummer in The Beatles!
My question is, where did it originate? I've seen it attributed to John
and other people, but can anyone actually point to the interview/article
where this first appeared?
Just one of those things that's bothered me for years...
--
My band: feedback always welcome
- www.thehomeguard.info/music.html
I just heard this yesterday from someone who worships the Beatles. He says Lennon said this thing. Of course, he also says that there is no way to play a chord on the bass. Anyway, I asked him where exactly John said it, and he couldn't tell me.
his being replaced.Regardless, Ringo is a very good drummer. Pete Best didn't have the
right "look" for The Beatles. He looked like he was a banker. Epstein >> saw that.
I've read so many far-fetched "theories" on this. When I finally heard a sample of Best's drumming, I saw that there was no need for any of the silly spectulations. Best couldn't keep time and was a lousy drummer. That alone is sufficient to explain
Factor in that his personality didn't mesh with the others', etc., and it's surprising they kept him as long as they did.Not to forget that "The Beatles: John, Paul, George and Pete" doesn't sound like a successful band.
I imagine Ringo's name had a small part in the decision. GeorgeThe funny thing is Ringo is a much better drummer than Paul.
Michael and Brian Epstein were entertainment geniuses. It was about "image" as much as their music.
Here is what Snopes has to say about the situation:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/john-lennon-ringo-best-drummer/
On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 6:19:33 AM UTC-5, seile...@gmail.com wrote:It sounds kinda like one of John's offhand quips, but I don't know what to believe.
On Tuesday, November 9, 2021 at 11:46:11 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 02:44:56 -0800 (PST), Norbert K <norbert...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 10:31:28 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote: >> On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 07:01:46 -0800 (PST), Joe Mahoney
<joemaho...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 at 5:37:19 PM UTC-4, Home Guard Chris wrote:
Actually, I rate Ringo extremely highly, but we've all heard the quote:
Someone: Ringo, of course, wasn't the best drummer in the world... >> >> Someone else: He wasn't even the best drummer in The Beatles!
My question is, where did it originate? I've seen it attributed to John
and other people, but can anyone actually point to the interview/article
where this first appeared?
Just one of those things that's bothered me for years...
--
My band: feedback always welcome
- www.thehomeguard.info/music.html
I just heard this yesterday from someone who worships the Beatles. He says Lennon said this thing. Of course, he also says that there is no way to play a chord on the bass. Anyway, I asked him where exactly John said it, and he couldn't tell me.
explain his being replaced.Regardless, Ringo is a very good drummer. Pete Best didn't have the >> right "look" for The Beatles. He looked like he was a banker. Epstein >> saw that.
I've read so many far-fetched "theories" on this. When I finally heard a sample of Best's drumming, I saw that there was no need for any of the silly spectulations. Best couldn't keep time and was a lousy drummer. That alone is sufficient to
Factor in that his personality didn't mesh with the others', etc., and it's surprising they kept him as long as they did.Not to forget that "The Beatles: John, Paul, George and Pete" doesn't sound like a successful band.
I imagine Ringo's name had a small part in the decision. GeorgeThe funny thing is Ringo is a much better drummer than Paul.
Michael and Brian Epstein were entertainment geniuses. It was about "image" as much as their music.
Here is what Snopes has to say about the situation:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/john-lennon-ringo-best-drummer/Drums were RIngo's main instrument, so I'd hope so! I do remember reading somewhere thT Paul was frustrated during the White Album sessiond because of Ringo's inability to play what Paul wanted, though.
On Tuesday, November 9, 2021 at 11:46:11 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:sounds kinda like one of John's offhand quips, but I don't know what to believe.
On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 02:44:56 -0800 (PST), Norbert K
<norbert...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 10:31:28 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 07:01:46 -0800 (PST), Joe Mahoney
<joemaho...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 at 5:37:19 PM UTC-4, Home Guard Chris wrote: >>>>>> Actually, I rate Ringo extremely highly, but we've all heard the quote: >>>>>>
Someone: Ringo, of course, wasn't the best drummer in the world... >>>>>> Someone else: He wasn't even the best drummer in The Beatles!
My question is, where did it originate? I've seen it attributed to John >>>>>> and other people, but can anyone actually point to the interview/article >>>>>> where this first appeared?
Just one of those things that's bothered me for years...
--
My band: feedback always welcome
- www.thehomeguard.info/music.html
I just heard this yesterday from someone who worships the Beatles. He says Lennon said this thing. Of course, he also says that there is no way to play a chord on the bass. Anyway, I asked him where exactly John said it, and he couldn't tell me. It
his being replaced.Regardless, Ringo is a very good drummer. Pete Best didn't have the
right "look" for The Beatles. He looked like he was a banker. Epstein
saw that.
I've read so many far-fetched "theories" on this. When I finally heard a sample of Best's drumming, I saw that there was no need for any of the silly spectulations. Best couldn't keep time and was a lousy drummer. That alone is sufficient to explain
The funny thing is Ringo is a much better drummer than Paul.Not to forget that "The Beatles: John, Paul, George and Pete" doesn't
Factor in that his personality didn't mesh with the others', etc., and it's surprising they kept him as long as they did.
sound like a successful band.
I imagine Ringo's name had a small part in the decision. George
Michael and Brian Epstein were entertainment geniuses. It was about
"image" as much as their music.
Here is what Snopes has to say about the situation:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/john-lennon-ringo-best-drummer/
On 11/11/2021 12:19 am, Tom Seiler wrote:
On Tuesday, November 9, 2021 at 11:46:11 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 02:44:56 -0800 (PST), Norbert KThe funny thing is Ringo is a much better drummer than Paul.
<norbert...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 10:31:28 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 07:01:46 -0800 (PST), Joe MahoneyNot to forget that "The Beatles: John, Paul, George and Pete" doesn't
<joemaho...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 at 5:37:19 PM UTC-4, Home Guard Chrisright "look" for The Beatles. He looked like he was a banker. Epstein >>>>> saw that.
wrote:
Actually, I rate Ringo extremely highly, but we've all heard the >>>>>>> quote:
Someone: Ringo, of course, wasn't the best drummer in the world... >>>>>>> Someone else: He wasn't even the best drummer in The Beatles!
My question is, where did it originate? I've seen it attributed
to John
and other people, but can anyone actually point to the
interview/article
where this first appeared?
Just one of those things that's bothered me for years...
--
My band: feedback always welcome
- www.thehomeguard.info/music.html
I just heard this yesterday from someone who worships the Beatles. >>>>>> He says Lennon said this thing. Of course, he also says that there >>>>>> is no way to play a chord on the bass. Anyway, I asked him where
exactly John said it, and he couldn't tell me. It sounds kinda
like one of John's offhand quips, but I don't know what to believe. >>>>> Regardless, Ringo is a very good drummer. Pete Best didn't have the
I've read so many far-fetched "theories" on this. When I finally
heard a sample of Best's drumming, I saw that there was no need for
any of the silly spectulations. Best couldn't keep time and was a
lousy drummer. That alone is sufficient to explain his being replaced. >>>>
Factor in that his personality didn't mesh with the others', etc.,
and it's surprising they kept him as long as they did.
sound like a successful band.
I imagine Ringo's name had a small part in the decision. George
Michael and Brian Epstein were entertainment geniuses. It was about
"image" as much as their music.
Here is what Snopes has to say about the situation:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/john-lennon-ringo-best-drummer/
Nothing definitive there.
Just because John often "spoke fondly about Ringo's drumming ability"
doesn't mean that in one of his vicious and nasty turns that he didn't
utter something along those lines. After all he has said things along
those lines about each of the other members.
Just putting it out there - was John bipolar ?
geoff
On 11/11/2021 12:17 pm, geoff wrote:
On 11/11/2021 12:19 am, Tom Seiler wrote:
On Tuesday, November 9, 2021 at 11:46:11 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote: >>> On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 02:44:56 -0800 (PST), Norbert K
<norbert...@gmail.com> wrote:The funny thing is Ringo is a much better drummer than Paul.
On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 10:31:28 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 07:01:46 -0800 (PST), Joe MahoneyNot to forget that "The Beatles: John, Paul, George and Pete" doesn't >>> sound like a successful band.
<joemaho...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 at 5:37:19 PM UTC-4, Home Guard Chris >>>>>> wrote:
Actually, I rate Ringo extremely highly, but we've all heard the >>>>>>> quote:
Someone: Ringo, of course, wasn't the best drummer in the world... >>>>>>> Someone else: He wasn't even the best drummer in The Beatles! >>>>>>>
My question is, where did it originate? I've seen it attributed >>>>>>> to John
and other people, but can anyone actually point to the
interview/article
where this first appeared?
Just one of those things that's bothered me for years...
--
My band: feedback always welcome
- www.thehomeguard.info/music.html
I just heard this yesterday from someone who worships the Beatles. >>>>>> He says Lennon said this thing. Of course, he also says that there >>>>>> is no way to play a chord on the bass. Anyway, I asked him where >>>>>> exactly John said it, and he couldn't tell me. It sounds kinda
like one of John's offhand quips, but I don't know what to believe. >>>>> Regardless, Ringo is a very good drummer. Pete Best didn't have the >>>>> right "look" for The Beatles. He looked like he was a banker. Epstein >>>>> saw that.
I've read so many far-fetched "theories" on this. When I finally
heard a sample of Best's drumming, I saw that there was no need for >>>> any of the silly spectulations. Best couldn't keep time and was a
lousy drummer. That alone is sufficient to explain his being replaced. >>>>
Factor in that his personality didn't mesh with the others', etc.,
and it's surprising they kept him as long as they did.
I imagine Ringo's name had a small part in the decision. George
Michael and Brian Epstein were entertainment geniuses. It was about
"image" as much as their music.
Here is what Snopes has to say about the situation:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/john-lennon-ringo-best-drummer/
Nothing definitive there.
Just because John often "spoke fondly about Ringo's drumming ability" doesn't mean that in one of his vicious and nasty turns that he didn't utter something along those lines. After all he has said things along those lines about each of the other members.
Just putting it out there - was John bipolar ?
geoff
Hmmm, this seems to be rather objective, and suggests 'possibly'.
Amongst other things !
https://joss.tcnj.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/176//2016/04/2016-Fade.pdf
geoff
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