• May Discusses The Visit to the Playboy Mansion

    From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 25 12:25:40 2024
    We roamed over the vast grounds. Whenever we ran into a [Playboy]
    Bunny, she kept suggesting that we visit Hefner's zoo and see the
    llamas. Finally we went into the mansion and Hefner came down from his bedroom. He was wearing pajamas and was surrounded by Bunnies -- one on
    each arm, with others trailing behind him. "Welcome," he said, "All of
    the facilities are yours. Make yourself at home."

    We went to the Grotto, the large, steamy jacuzzi that Hefner had
    built for nude bathing. Everyone kept wondering whch of us would
    undress and swim in the nude. I knew I wouldn't. John suddenly got the
    idea that it was time for Harry to take a bath. Like a mischievous kid,
    he whispered in our ears that on the count of three, we all should toss
    Harry into the water. John whispered, "One...two...three!" and suddenly
    we pounced on him and tossed him in. Harry splashed around happily.
    Then Cher climbed to the top of the rocks.

    "It's so steamy in here," she said, "I've lost an eyelash."

    -- May, in Loving John

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Norbert on Mon Nov 25 10:57:43 2024
    On 2024-11-25 12:25:40 +0000, Norbert said:

    We roamed over the vast grounds. Whenever we ran into a [Playboy]
    Bunny, she kept suggesting that we visit Hefner's zoo and see the
    llamas. Finally we went into the mansion and Hefner came down from his bedroom. He was wearing pajamas and was surrounded by Bunnies -- one on
    each arm, with others trailing behind him. "Welcome," he said, "All of
    the facilities are yours. Make yourself at home."

    We went to the Grotto, the large, steamy jacuzzi that Hefner had
    built for nude bathing. Everyone kept wondering whch of us would
    undress and swim in the nude. I knew I wouldn't. John suddenly got the
    idea that it was time for Harry to take a bath. Like a mischievous kid,
    he whispered in our ears that on the count of three, we all should toss
    Harry into the water. John whispered, "One...two...three!" and suddenly
    we pounced on him and tossed him in. Harry splashed around happily.
    Then Cher climbed to the top of the rocks.

    "It's so steamy in here," she said, "I've lost an eyelash."

    -- May, in Loving John

    Cher doesn't mention Pang at all though, ostensibly because Pang is
    still alive. I presume they're both talking about the same visit or was
    there more than one?

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  • From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 25 17:22:36 2024
    May mentions only one visit.

    She gives the impression that Lennon was underwhelmed by the whole
    experience. She says that afterward, Lennon went on sarcastically about
    how impressed he was by Hefner because of the overabundance of ashtrays
    in his mansion, each of which supposedly boasted an active pipe.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 25 18:29:21 2024
    On 2024-11-25 16:57:43 +0000, super70s said:

    On 2024-11-25 12:25:40 +0000, Norbert said:

    We roamed over the vast grounds. Whenever we ran into a [Playboy]
    Bunny, she kept suggesting that we visit Hefner's zoo and see the
    llamas. Finally we went into the mansion and Hefner came down from his
    bedroom. He was wearing pajamas and was surrounded by Bunnies -- one on
    each arm, with others trailing behind him. "Welcome," he said, "All of
    the facilities are yours. Make yourself at home."

    We went to the Grotto, the large, steamy jacuzzi that Hefner had
    built for nude bathing. Everyone kept wondering whch of us would
    undress and swim in the nude. I knew I wouldn't. John suddenly got the
    idea that it was time for Harry to take a bath. Like a mischievous kid,
    he whispered in our ears that on the count of three, we all should toss
    Harry into the water. John whispered, "One...two...three!" and suddenly
    we pounced on him and tossed him in. Harry splashed around happily.
    Then Cher climbed to the top of the rocks.

    "It's so steamy in here," she said, "I've lost an eyelash."

    -- May, in Loving John

    Cher doesn't mention Pang at all though, ostensibly because Pang is
    still alive. I presume they're both talking about the same visit or was
    there more than one?

    I take it Cher was too classy to strip down herself and get in the
    pool, if she had Hef and everybody else in the mansion would've
    probably converged on it, lol.

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  • From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 26 15:07:55 2024
    May says that everyone in the viciity got on their hands and knees to
    look for Cher's missing eyelash. Once it was retrieved, Cher adorned it
    and then "waded into the pool while John and I watched."

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  • From pamina58@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 28 15:29:10 2024
    Interesting that May has no problem talking about Cher, while Cher
    appears to have overlooked May's presence...

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  • From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 29 10:53:06 2024
    Cher was more of a household name.

    While Cher was a big star, she's one I never "got." I never saw the
    appeal.

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  • From Geoff@21:1/5 to Norbert on Tue Dec 3 10:36:43 2024
    On 29/11/2024 11:53 pm, Norbert wrote:
    Cher was more of a household name.

    While Cher was a big star, she's one I never "got."  I never saw the
    appeal.

    Not even the 'thong' video ? (Ha ha)

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    geoff

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  • From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 2 23:19:01 2024
    I don't know what that is. And I think I'll keep it that way.

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  • From Geoff@21:1/5 to Norbert on Tue Dec 3 22:17:42 2024
    On 3/12/2024 12:19 pm, Norbert wrote:
    I don't know what that is.  And I think I'll keep it that way.


    Sorry in advance.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n3A_-HRFfc

    --
    geoff

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  • From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 3 11:50:03 2024
    Oh, I remember it now. How cringeworthy in every way.

    The Navy thought they'd get new recruits out of that.

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  • From pamina58@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 4 11:34:16 2024
    My late husband, Donner Brown, was a session player in NYC and LA. He
    performed with Cher at the Hollywood Bowl. He was not impressed with her either...

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  • From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 4 14:02:36 2024
    In that particular song, in the battleship video, Cher bellows the
    vocals.

    However, I don't see Cher's appeal in general.

    Someone like Dale Bozzio -- she wasn't a real vocalist, but I can how
    her quirky singing fit the music. I could see her sex appeal.

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  • From pamina58@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 17 11:56:16 2024
    A bit of irony...Cher had to evacuate during the latest Malibu fire... https://people.com/cher-required-to-evacuate-home-amid-malibu-wildfire-8759828

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  • From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 17 12:55:41 2024
    Ouch. The California I knew and loved seems to be a thing of the past.

    I fear I'll be saying that abut the whole country soon.

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  • From pamina58@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 22 19:53:03 2024
    I agree. I loved living in San Francisco too, until the assassination of
    RFK, the Tate murders and the Santa Rosa earthquake that October (we
    were on the 13th floor of our apartment overlooking the (then) Miyako
    Hotel...

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  • From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 22 22:05:41 2024
    Yeah, we've talked about your time there. I still enjoyed visiting the
    Bay Area as late as the 2000s -- but it was still a place abounding in
    great bookstores, music (recordings and instrument) shops, inexpensive-yet-amazing restaurants, coffee shops and quality beer bars.

    Most of the venerable old places I loved -- Haight Music, the Caffe Meditteraneum, Shakespeare Books -- are long-gone.

    I'm reading two books that deal with the Kennedies: Jack Olsen's The
    Bridge At Chappaquiddick and Peter Jannay's Mary's Mosaic, about Mary
    Pinchot Meyer's relationships, which included an intimate one with JFK
    and a friendship with Timothy Leary. (You ab guess what she had turned
    to Leary for.)

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  • From pamina58@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 23 17:12:24 2024
    Those are interesting books.

    Odd coincidence...Sharon Tate had dinner with RFK the night he was
    killed.

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  • From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 23 18:25:21 2024
    It's disturbing to read, in Olsen's book, about the extent of Joseph
    Kennedy Sr's control over his sons. In fact, I'm learning from the book
    about Meyer that she is one of the few women involved with JFK was not
    merely used by him for sex. She was the dominant person in the
    relationship, viewing Kennedy as a broken man in need of help, having
    been pushed into politics against his will. She had requested LSD from
    Timothy Leary so that she could take the drug with Kennedy, hoping
    (having faith in Leary's promises of the drug's supposed benefits) to
    make him happier.

    Sharon Tate and Roman Polanski actually lived on Palisades Beach Road
    for a time, before moving to the Chateau Marmont (where she was happy
    but he wasn't) and then to Cielo Drive.

    Peter Lawford's former house, where Lennon lived with May Pang, Keith
    Moon, Harry Nilsson, Ringo and others was on the same beautiful (back
    then anyway) stretch -- albeit years later than Tate had, obviously.

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  • From pamina58@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 24 16:44:03 2024
    Mary was a lovely person. However, she was in the thick of things no
    matter where she turned. Her ex, Cord Meyer, was CIA. After Mary's
    untimely death, his boss, James Angleton supposedly turned her house
    upside down to locate and destroy her diaries...we could say in the eyes
    of those behind the assassination of JFK that she had become an
    'inconvenient woman'...

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  • From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 24 20:52:45 2024
    I can see why men were smitten with her. Also, I like that she was not beholden to Kennedy; she declined his pleas for her company on occasion.

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  • From pamina58@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 25 18:51:37 2024
    Mary was the opposite of Marilyn Monroe. However, both of them presented
    a danger to JFK...

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  • From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 26 15:47:34 2024
    In the most coherent segment of his autobiography Flashbacks, Timothy
    Leary claimed he looked up from his desk one day in 1962 to see "a woman leaning up against the door post, her hip tilted provocatively. She
    appeared to be in her late thirties. Good looking, flamboyant eyebrows, piercing green-blue eyes, fine-boned face. Amused, arrogant,
    aristocratic."

    Meyer was visiting Leary to request LSD from him and instructions on how
    to guide an important person through an LSD trip.

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  • From pamina58@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 26 17:11:23 2024
    With all JFK's enemies, particularly CIA, watching...

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  • From Geoff@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 28 15:07:56 2024
    On 23/12/2024 8:53 am, pamina58 wrote:
    I agree. I loved living in San Francisco too, until the assassination of
    RFK, the Tate murders and the Santa Rosa earthquake that October (we
    were on the 13th floor of our apartment overlooking the (then) Miyako Hotel...

    13th floor ? So it was all your fault....

    --
    geoff

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  • From pamina58@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 29 18:34:21 2024
    Actually,it was the Healdsburg fault... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_Santa_Rosa_earthquakes

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  • From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 29 18:43:32 2024
    A transform fault, which I remember from geology is potentially the most destructive type.

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