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May Discusses The Visit to the Playboy Mansion
From
Norbert@21:1/5 to
All on Mon Nov 25 12:25:40 2024
We roamed over the vast grounds. Whenever we ran into a [Playboy]
Bunny, she kept suggesting that we visit Hefner's zoo and see the
llamas. Finally we went into the mansion and Hefner came down from his bedroom. He was wearing pajamas and was surrounded by Bunnies -- one on
each arm, with others trailing behind him. "Welcome," he said, "All of
the facilities are yours. Make yourself at home."
We went to the Grotto, the large, steamy jacuzzi that Hefner had
built for nude bathing. Everyone kept wondering whch of us would
undress and swim in the nude. I knew I wouldn't. John suddenly got the
idea that it was time for Harry to take a bath. Like a mischievous kid,
he whispered in our ears that on the count of three, we all should toss
Harry into the water. John whispered, "One...two...three!" and suddenly
we pounced on him and tossed him in. Harry splashed around happily.
Then Cher climbed to the top of the rocks.
"It's so steamy in here," she said, "I've lost an eyelash."
-- May, in Loving John
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From
super70s@21:1/5 to
Norbert on Mon Nov 25 10:57:43 2024
On 2024-11-25 12:25:40 +0000, Norbert said:
We roamed over the vast grounds. Whenever we ran into a [Playboy]
Bunny, she kept suggesting that we visit Hefner's zoo and see the
llamas. Finally we went into the mansion and Hefner came down from his bedroom. He was wearing pajamas and was surrounded by Bunnies -- one on
each arm, with others trailing behind him. "Welcome," he said, "All of
the facilities are yours. Make yourself at home."
We went to the Grotto, the large, steamy jacuzzi that Hefner had
built for nude bathing. Everyone kept wondering whch of us would
undress and swim in the nude. I knew I wouldn't. John suddenly got the
idea that it was time for Harry to take a bath. Like a mischievous kid,
he whispered in our ears that on the count of three, we all should toss
Harry into the water. John whispered, "One...two...three!" and suddenly
we pounced on him and tossed him in. Harry splashed around happily.
Then Cher climbed to the top of the rocks.
"It's so steamy in here," she said, "I've lost an eyelash."
-- May, in Loving John
Cher doesn't mention Pang at all though, ostensibly because Pang is
still alive. I presume they're both talking about the same visit or was
there more than one?
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From
Norbert@21:1/5 to
All on Mon Nov 25 17:22:36 2024
May mentions only one visit.
She gives the impression that Lennon was underwhelmed by the whole
experience. She says that afterward, Lennon went on sarcastically about
how impressed he was by Hefner because of the overabundance of ashtrays
in his mansion, each of which supposedly boasted an active pipe.
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From
super70s@21:1/5 to
All on Mon Nov 25 18:29:21 2024
On 2024-11-25 16:57:43 +0000, super70s said:
On 2024-11-25 12:25:40 +0000, Norbert said:
We roamed over the vast grounds. Whenever we ran into a [Playboy]
Bunny, she kept suggesting that we visit Hefner's zoo and see the
llamas. Finally we went into the mansion and Hefner came down from his
bedroom. He was wearing pajamas and was surrounded by Bunnies -- one on
each arm, with others trailing behind him. "Welcome," he said, "All of
the facilities are yours. Make yourself at home."
We went to the Grotto, the large, steamy jacuzzi that Hefner had
built for nude bathing. Everyone kept wondering whch of us would
undress and swim in the nude. I knew I wouldn't. John suddenly got the
idea that it was time for Harry to take a bath. Like a mischievous kid,
he whispered in our ears that on the count of three, we all should toss
Harry into the water. John whispered, "One...two...three!" and suddenly
we pounced on him and tossed him in. Harry splashed around happily.
Then Cher climbed to the top of the rocks.
"It's so steamy in here," she said, "I've lost an eyelash."
-- May, in Loving John
Cher doesn't mention Pang at all though, ostensibly because Pang is
still alive. I presume they're both talking about the same visit or was
there more than one?
I take it Cher was too classy to strip down herself and get in the
pool, if she had Hef and everybody else in the mansion would've
probably converged on it, lol.
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From
Norbert@21:1/5 to
All on Tue Nov 26 15:07:55 2024
May says that everyone in the viciity got on their hands and knees to
look for Cher's missing eyelash. Once it was retrieved, Cher adorned it
and then "waded into the pool while John and I watched."
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From
pamina58@21:1/5 to
All on Thu Nov 28 15:29:10 2024
Interesting that May has no problem talking about Cher, while Cher
appears to have overlooked May's presence...
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From
Norbert@21:1/5 to
All on Fri Nov 29 10:53:06 2024
Cher was more of a household name.
While Cher was a big star, she's one I never "got." I never saw the
appeal.
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From
Geoff@21:1/5 to
Norbert on Tue Dec 3 10:36:43 2024
On 29/11/2024 11:53 pm, Norbert wrote:
Cher was more of a household name.
While Cher was a big star, she's one I never "got." I never saw the
appeal.
Not even the 'thong' video ? (Ha ha)
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geoff
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From
Norbert@21:1/5 to
All on Mon Dec 2 23:19:01 2024
I don't know what that is. And I think I'll keep it that way.
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From
Geoff@21:1/5 to
Norbert on Tue Dec 3 22:17:42 2024
On 3/12/2024 12:19 pm, Norbert wrote:
I don't know what that is. And I think I'll keep it that way.
Sorry in advance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n3A_-HRFfc
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geoff
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From
Norbert@21:1/5 to
All on Tue Dec 3 11:50:03 2024
Oh, I remember it now. How cringeworthy in every way.
The Navy thought they'd get new recruits out of that.
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From
pamina58@21:1/5 to
All on Wed Dec 4 11:34:16 2024
My late husband, Donner Brown, was a session player in NYC and LA. He
performed with Cher at the Hollywood Bowl. He was not impressed with her either...
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From
Norbert@21:1/5 to
All on Wed Dec 4 14:02:36 2024
In that particular song, in the battleship video, Cher bellows the
vocals.
However, I don't see Cher's appeal in general.
Someone like Dale Bozzio -- she wasn't a real vocalist, but I can how
her quirky singing fit the music. I could see her sex appeal.
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From
pamina58@21:1/5 to
All on Tue Dec 17 11:56:16 2024
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From
Norbert@21:1/5 to
All on Tue Dec 17 12:55:41 2024
Ouch. The California I knew and loved seems to be a thing of the past.
I fear I'll be saying that abut the whole country soon.
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From
pamina58@21:1/5 to
All on Sun Dec 22 19:53:03 2024
I agree. I loved living in San Francisco too, until the assassination of
RFK, the Tate murders and the Santa Rosa earthquake that October (we
were on the 13th floor of our apartment overlooking the (then) Miyako
Hotel...
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From
Norbert@21:1/5 to
All on Sun Dec 22 22:05:41 2024
Yeah, we've talked about your time there. I still enjoyed visiting the
Bay Area as late as the 2000s -- but it was still a place abounding in
great bookstores, music (recordings and instrument) shops, inexpensive-yet-amazing restaurants, coffee shops and quality beer bars.
Most of the venerable old places I loved -- Haight Music, the Caffe Meditteraneum, Shakespeare Books -- are long-gone.
I'm reading two books that deal with the Kennedies: Jack Olsen's The
Bridge At Chappaquiddick and Peter Jannay's Mary's Mosaic, about Mary
Pinchot Meyer's relationships, which included an intimate one with JFK
and a friendship with Timothy Leary. (You ab guess what she had turned
to Leary for.)
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From
pamina58@21:1/5 to
All on Mon Dec 23 17:12:24 2024
Those are interesting books.
Odd coincidence...Sharon Tate had dinner with RFK the night he was
killed.
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From
Norbert@21:1/5 to
All on Mon Dec 23 18:25:21 2024
It's disturbing to read, in Olsen's book, about the extent of Joseph
Kennedy Sr's control over his sons. In fact, I'm learning from the book
about Meyer that she is one of the few women involved with JFK was not
merely used by him for sex. She was the dominant person in the
relationship, viewing Kennedy as a broken man in need of help, having
been pushed into politics against his will. She had requested LSD from
Timothy Leary so that she could take the drug with Kennedy, hoping
(having faith in Leary's promises of the drug's supposed benefits) to
make him happier.
Sharon Tate and Roman Polanski actually lived on Palisades Beach Road
for a time, before moving to the Chateau Marmont (where she was happy
but he wasn't) and then to Cielo Drive.
Peter Lawford's former house, where Lennon lived with May Pang, Keith
Moon, Harry Nilsson, Ringo and others was on the same beautiful (back
then anyway) stretch -- albeit years later than Tate had, obviously.
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From
pamina58@21:1/5 to
All on Tue Dec 24 16:44:03 2024
Mary was a lovely person. However, she was in the thick of things no
matter where she turned. Her ex, Cord Meyer, was CIA. After Mary's
untimely death, his boss, James Angleton supposedly turned her house
upside down to locate and destroy her diaries...we could say in the eyes
of those behind the assassination of JFK that she had become an
'inconvenient woman'...
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From
Norbert@21:1/5 to
All on Tue Dec 24 20:52:45 2024
I can see why men were smitten with her. Also, I like that she was not beholden to Kennedy; she declined his pleas for her company on occasion.
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From
pamina58@21:1/5 to
All on Wed Dec 25 18:51:37 2024
Mary was the opposite of Marilyn Monroe. However, both of them presented
a danger to JFK...
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From
Norbert@21:1/5 to
All on Thu Dec 26 15:47:34 2024
In the most coherent segment of his autobiography Flashbacks, Timothy
Leary claimed he looked up from his desk one day in 1962 to see "a woman leaning up against the door post, her hip tilted provocatively. She
appeared to be in her late thirties. Good looking, flamboyant eyebrows, piercing green-blue eyes, fine-boned face. Amused, arrogant,
aristocratic."
Meyer was visiting Leary to request LSD from him and instructions on how
to guide an important person through an LSD trip.
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From
pamina58@21:1/5 to
All on Thu Dec 26 17:11:23 2024
With all JFK's enemies, particularly CIA, watching...
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From
Geoff@21:1/5 to
All on Sat Dec 28 15:07:56 2024
On 23/12/2024 8:53 am, pamina58 wrote:
I agree. I loved living in San Francisco too, until the assassination of
RFK, the Tate murders and the Santa Rosa earthquake that October (we
were on the 13th floor of our apartment overlooking the (then) Miyako Hotel...
13th floor ? So it was all your fault....
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geoff
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From
pamina58@21:1/5 to
All on Sun Dec 29 18:34:21 2024
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From
Norbert@21:1/5 to
All on Sun Dec 29 18:43:32 2024
A transform fault, which I remember from geology is potentially the most destructive type.
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