• Quincy Jones Has Died

    From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 4 13:19:38 2024
    The most Beatles-related thing I know of about Jones were his claims
    some years back about the Beatles' -- particularly Ringo's and Paul's -- supposed incompetence as musicians.

    There was a corpulent, foul-mouthed character (now also deceased) in RMB
    who parroted all this nonsense, but like a true Trumpian, didn't bother
    to verify a word of it. Jones claimed that Ringo was unable to complete
    a four-bar passage, so he sent Ringo off to drink lager and have a
    shephard's pie. A jazz guy was called in to play the part, and he "tore
    it up," according to Jones.

    However, the sound of a jazz guy "tearing it up" is nowhere to be heard
    on the record.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Norbert on Thu Nov 7 02:04:27 2024
    On 2024-11-04 13:19:38 +0000, Norbert said:

    The most Beatles-related thing I know of about Jones were his claims
    some years back about the Beatles' -- particularly Ringo's and Paul's -- supposed incompetence as musicians.

    Paul at least seems to hold no hard feelings, he posted a lengthy
    tribute to Instagram. Shortly after the interview you referred to he
    said Jones called him up and "explained the situation" (without going
    into specifics) and that the two "laughed about" the incident.

    If Ringo doesn't post his own tribute that might speak volumes. Or that
    he simply wasn't as friendly with Jones as Paul in later years.

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  • From Matt@21:1/5 to super70s@super70s.invalid on Thu Nov 7 10:55:39 2024
    On 7 Nov 2024 at 09:04:27 GMT+1, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    On 2024-11-04 13:19:38 +0000, Norbert said:

    The most Beatles-related thing I know of about Jones were his claims
    some years back about the Beatles' -- particularly Ringo's and Paul's --
    supposed incompetence as musicians.

    Paul at least seems to hold no hard feelings, he posted a lengthy
    tribute to Instagram. Shortly after the interview you referred to he
    said Jones called him up and "explained the situation" (without going
    into specifics) and that the two "laughed about" the incident.

    If Ringo doesn't post his own tribute that might speak volumes. Or that
    he simply wasn't as friendly with Jones as Paul in later years.

    I knew him personally through a musician friend when he lived in California
    and I can assure you that he was narcissistic, arrogant, jealous and insufferable.
    Anyone who knew him knows that very well.

    Whether he was good for jazz is another matter.

    As for Paul, he was always very conciliatory with those kinds of people, Paul doesn't want to be angry with anybody, and you could see that in his relationship with John and that monster Yoko.

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  • From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 7 10:54:41 2024
    i thought McCartney's response had an edge. He said something to the
    effect that Jones was "getting on in years," implying Jones's statements
    were the product of senility.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Matt on Thu Nov 7 14:06:08 2024
    On 2024-11-07 10:55:39 +0000, Matt said:

    On 7 Nov 2024 at 09:04:27 GMT+1, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    On 2024-11-04 13:19:38 +0000, Norbert said:

    The most Beatles-related thing I know of about Jones were his claims
    some years back about the Beatles' -- particularly Ringo's and Paul's -- >>> supposed incompetence as musicians.

    Paul at least seems to hold no hard feelings, he posted a lengthy
    tribute to Instagram. Shortly after the interview you referred to he
    said Jones called him up and "explained the situation" (without going
    into specifics) and that the two "laughed about" the incident.

    If Ringo doesn't post his own tribute that might speak volumes. Or that
    he simply wasn't as friendly with Jones as Paul in later years.

    I knew him personally through a musician friend when he lived in California and I can assure you that he was narcissistic, arrogant, jealous and insufferable.
    Anyone who knew him knows that very well.

    I am not really surprised. Senility could have worsened a personality
    problem that was already there (e.g. Donald Trump).

    Whether he was good for jazz is another matter.

    As for Paul, he was always very conciliatory with those kinds of people, Paul doesn't want to be angry with anybody, and you could see that in his relationship with John and that monster Yoko.

    Good point, Allen Klein notwithstanding. lol.

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  • From Geoff@21:1/5 to Matt on Fri Nov 8 10:18:29 2024
    On 7/11/2024 11:55 pm, Matt wrote:
    On 7 Nov 2024 at 09:04:27 GMT+1, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    On 2024-11-04 13:19:38 +0000, Norbert said:

    The most Beatles-related thing I know of about Jones were his claims
    some years back about the Beatles' -- particularly Ringo's and Paul's -- >>> supposed incompetence as musicians.

    Paul at least seems to hold no hard feelings, he posted a lengthy
    tribute to Instagram. Shortly after the interview you referred to he
    said Jones called him up and "explained the situation" (without going
    into specifics) and that the two "laughed about" the incident.

    If Ringo doesn't post his own tribute that might speak volumes. Or that
    he simply wasn't as friendly with Jones as Paul in later years.

    I knew him personally through a musician friend when he lived in California and I can assure you that he was narcissistic, arrogant, jealous and insufferable.
    Anyone who knew him knows that very well.

    Whether he was good for jazz is another matter.

    As for Paul, he was always very conciliatory with those kinds of people, Paul doesn't want to be angry with anybody, and you could see that in his relationship with John and that monster Yoko.

    That is also my understanding. Quincy a highly skilled musician and
    producer. And a conceited jerk.

    --
    geoff

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  • From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 17 10:32:20 2024
    Jones's death has led some commentators to revisit that "We Are the
    World" doc.

    I find the song wretched and the show full of cringeworthy moments,
    e.g., all the deference towards Michael Jackson.

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  • From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 17 13:27:35 2024
    In that documentary on the making of the trite "We Are the World, woman participants in the recording fought to be beside Michael Jackson. Good
    luck to them if they were hoping for any sort of relationship.

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  • From Geoff@21:1/5 to Norbert on Mon Nov 18 15:56:41 2024
    On 17/11/2024 11:32 pm, Norbert wrote:
    Jones's death has led some commentators to revisit that "We Are the
    World" doc.

    I find the song wretched and the show full of cringeworthy moments,
    e.g., all the deference towards Michael Jackson.

    MJ - "we are the children" Hmmmmmm ......

    --
    geoff

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  • From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 18 11:27:20 2024
    The lyrics and music to "We Are the World" are almost Yokolike -- that
    is to say, childish-verging-on-infantile.

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