• Saddest Passage Among Lennon's Last Interviews

    From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 24 14:09:15 2024
    Q: How did you and Paul happen to be watching TV together?

    Lennon: That was a period when Paul just kept turning up at the door
    with a guitar. I would let him in, but finally I said to him, "Please
    call before you come over. It's not 1956 and turning up at the door
    isn't the same anymore."

    -- from Lennon's Playboy interview of 1980

    A few years later, in their own Playboy interview, the McCartneys mentioned that they had heard Lennon was having trouble writing music
    and that McCartney had shown up to help Lennon. Linda McCartney added
    that Lennon had been going insane or some such -- which, judging from
    the accounts of Goldman and John Green, was a fair assessment.

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  • From pamina58@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 28 13:48:56 2024
    How smug the McCartneys seem here.
    It's a wonder they can sleep...

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  • From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 29 10:29:22 2024
    I don't agree! McCartney showed up out of a generous desire to help
    Lennon -- just as he later attempted to get through to Lennon offering
    to share some "dynamite weed" with him before his trip to Japan.

    And, I suspect, Lennon declined to accept Paul's offer to work on music
    not because he was worn out from caring for Sean (which the Lennons
    employed numerous nannies for), but because he was out of it and didn't
    feel up to the challenge.

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  • From pamina58@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 29 11:11:27 2024
    Nonsense.

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  • From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 29 11:15:46 2024
    Well, Lennon himself admitted that McCartney was regularly showing up
    with a guitar. What do you think McCartney's purpose was?

    And Lennon himself admitted that they ended up just watching television
    instead of working on music.

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  • From Geoff@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 30 10:05:05 2024
    On 29/07/2024 11:11 pm, pamina58 wrote:

    Nonsense.


    Congrats on condensing your usual wacky spiels to a single word.

    geoff

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  • From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 31 21:04:54 2024
    BTW, what are John's "Beautiful Boy," "Dear Yoko," and "Starting Over"
    if not cute songs?

    While with Fred Seaman in Bermuda, Lennon hit upon the idea of doing an
    album about "living on borrowed time." Yoko insisted on being involved,
    and told him to write odes to her and their supposedly shared lives
    instead. He duly scrapped his idea, and came up with the DF songs.

    And he knew they were mostly bad. On the demo tape of them he made for
    Jack Douglas, he would comment after most of the songs, "It's not very
    good. Maybe I should give it to Ringo, instead."

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  • From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 31 12:43:50 2024
    Fred Seaman says that, while he was driving John around, Paul's "Coming
    Up" came on the radio and John was wildly excited by it ("F*ck a pig!
    It's Paul!").

    In the mid-70s, John deemed Band on the Run "good Paul music."

    McCartney had stayed active in music through the 70s; Lennon gave up
    after returning to Yoko and the Dakota. I suspect it was at Yoko's
    behest that he shelved his at-least half-written "Between the Lines"
    project. In any event, Lennon had, as he said to John Green, "lost me
    muse." When McCartney showed up with a guitar, Lennon simply didn't
    feel up to the task of collaborating. He preferred to smoke dope and
    watch television.

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  • From pamina58@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 31 10:40:28 2024
    I think John tired of Paul's 'cute' music long before then...

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  • From pamina58@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 4 16:36:43 2024
    Why do some people consider themselves 'fans' when they do nothing but
    slander their idol in life and in death?

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  • From Norbert@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 4 20:43:04 2024
    Who and what specifically are you referring to, Pamela?

    If you're trying to talk about me, none of it's accurate. I've never
    slandered Lennon. BTW, I have not claimed he was my idol, either.
    Grownups don't have idols.

    Liking some of a person's work doesn't entail liking all it --
    especially with a person like Lennon, whose work was astoundingly
    uneven. Liking some of a person's work doesn't entail approving all of
    that person's behavior, either. E.g., the way Lennon left his first
    wife is despicable -- as it the manner in which he adopted Yoko'
    resentment towards Paul (based, in Yoko's case, on Paul denying her
    advances).

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  • From Geoff@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 5 10:25:31 2024
    On 5/08/2024 4:36 am, pamina58 wrote:
    Why do some people consider themselves 'fans' when they do nothing but slander their idol in life and in death?


    Slander - doesn't that imply actually false statements, as opposed to conjecture around a deeper understanding of a person's complexity -
    'warts and all' ?

    Should we all be 'fan-boys' (or girls) to the extent that our heads are
    totally buried in the sand ?

    geoff

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