• rec.music.beatles newbie alert

    From oldernow@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 18 18:57:19 2023
    Hello, I'm new to this newsgroup, but *not* new to the Beatles.

    Tiny bits of context:

    Favorite Beatle: John
    Favorite song: You've Got To Hide Your Love Away

    Hope this place still sees some (inter)action!

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to oldernow on Mon Dec 18 19:58:50 2023
    oldernow wrote:

    On 2023-12-18, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Favorite song: You've Got To Hide Your Love Away

    "In my Life"

    Definitely a strong contender on this end.

    I'm also wondering whether others here bother with
    alt.music.beatles. I wasn't sure whether to crosspost
    my first post here there as well.

    Nah, the alt. group gets very little traffic... and of that very little,
    most of it is spam!!!

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  • From oldernow@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Mon Dec 18 20:14:37 2023
    On 2023-12-18, Norbert K <norbertkosky69@gmail.com> wrote:

    It's complicated, because the pre- and post-LSD John Lennons
    were two very different people -- as far as personality,
    songwriting, etc.

    The pre-LSD Lennon might have been my favorite Beatle, but it
    really is a tough call. Plus, a lot of the best songs were
    true Lennon-McCartney collaboations, with the duo "writing eyeball-to-eyeball," as Lennon put it.

    No doubt about all that.

    But I'm fine with the pre/post acid John. I'm way older
    now than when one of my aunts "learned me the Beatles" in
    what was probably 1964-ish, and have certainly been a very
    different person and many points along the way. And some
    of the differences certainly had degrees chemical influence
    behind them.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to oldernow on Mon Dec 18 19:32:43 2023
    oldernow wrote:

    Hello, I'm new to this newsgroup, but not new to the Beatles.

    Tiny bits of context:

    Favorite Beatle: John

    Of course. Mine too.

    Favorite song: You've Got To Hide Your Love Away

    "In my Life"

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  • From oldernow@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Mon Dec 18 20:10:02 2023
    On 2023-12-18, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Nah, the alt. group gets very little traffic... and of that very little,
    most of it is spam!!!

    I appreciate that heads up!

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  • From oldernow@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Mon Dec 18 19:46:35 2023
    On 2023-12-18, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Favorite song: You've Got To Hide Your Love Away

    "In my Life"

    Definitely a strong contender on this end.

    I'm also wondering whether others here bother with
    alt.music.beatles. I wasn't sure whether to crosspost
    my first post here there as well.

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  • From W.Dockery@21:1/5 to oldernow on Thu Dec 21 07:56:31 2023
    oldernow wrote:

    Hello, I'm new to this newsgroup, but *not* new to the Beatles.

    Tiny bits of context:

    Favorite Beatle: John
    Favorite song: You've Got To Hide Your Love Away

    Hope this place still sees some (inter)action!

    Great to see posts are still being made here in spite of the flood of spam on the Google Groups version of the newsgroup.


    Highly recommend Nova BBS for reading and posting:

    https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=rec.music.beatles

    And yes, John was my favorite Beatle, although all four are high on my list.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Thu Dec 21 16:08:35 2023
    W.Dockery wrote:

    oldernow wrote:

    Hope this place still sees some (inter)action!

    Great to see posts are still being made here in spite of the flood
    of spam on the Google Groups version of the newsgroup.

    Looks like that isn't going to be the case very soon... ;-)

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to General-Zod on Thu Dec 21 23:12:42 2023
    General-Zod wrote:

    Blueshirt wrote:

    W.Dockery wrote:

    Great to see posts are still being made here in spite of the
    flood of spam on the Google Groups version of the newsgroup.

    Looks like that isn't going to be the case very soon... ;-)

    Try Nova BBS, nearly spam free:

    https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=rec.music.beatles

    I don't need to, I've always used a newsreader and a proper news
    service, I wouldn't have touched Google Groups with a barge-pole!

    I won't be lamenting the loss of all the spam either...

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  • From oldernow@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Tue Dec 26 20:18:57 2023
    On 2023-12-20, Norbert K <norbertkosky69@gmail.com> wrote:

    However, as his best friend Pete Shotton phrased it, John
    Lennon turned his life into a "continuous acid trip" --
    only to end up surrounding himself with predatory nuts.

    It can happen to the best of us here on Planet Predatory Nuts.

    Can you imagine the John Lennon who once labored alongside
    Paul McCartney at the piano in search of *just that right
    chord* dribbling a two-chord piece of drivel like "Give Peace
    a Chance"?

    Clearly not his finest work. And yet even in his alongside
    McCartney days did he manage to output "Run For Your Life",
    which he openly despised. I think one of the things I loved
    most about him was his willingness to take artistic chances.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to oldernow on Sun Jan 14 21:36:18 2024
    On 2023-12-26 20:18:57 +0000, oldernow said:

    On 2023-12-20, Norbert K <norbertkosky69@gmail.com> wrote:

    However, as his best friend Pete Shotton phrased it, John
    Lennon turned his life into a "continuous acid trip" --
    only to end up surrounding himself with predatory nuts.

    It can happen to the best of us here on Planet Predatory Nuts.

    Can you imagine the John Lennon who once labored alongside
    Paul McCartney at the piano in search of *just that right
    chord* dribbling a two-chord piece of drivel like "Give Peace
    a Chance"?

    Clearly not his finest work. And yet even in his alongside
    McCartney days did he manage to output "Run For Your Life",
    which he openly despised. I think one of the things I loved
    most about him was his willingness to take artistic chances.

    John was a big Elvis fan, "I'd rather see you dead little girl than to
    be with another man" was lifted directly from "Baby, Let's Play House."

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  • From oldernow@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Fri Jan 26 13:44:47 2024
    On 2024-01-13, Norbert K <norbertkosky69@gmail.com> wrote:
    Yeah, but you don't really think that "Run For Your Life" is
    on par with "Give Peace a Chance," do you? There's much to like
    about the former song. Even if you don't like RFYL, the bulk of
    John's work from that time is among his best. By the time of GPAC,
    he was a spent (or a drug- and Yoko-addled) force.

    I don't think they're equally good. But then I also don't expect
    all of a music artist's work to be on equal footing, or improving
    over time - especially with respect to my tastes. I don't think it
    means anything in particular if/when one song doesn't seem as good
    as another, e.g. that the artist lost or is losing their prowess.

    I've written and recorded songs, and definitely prefer some to
    others, but I don't take that inequity to mean something about my
    skills. There are influences other than creative and/or performance
    talent that go into winding up with a finished song, e.g. mood,
    "the times", whether or not some asshole drove three inches off
    my back bumper on the way home from work, whether or not a pretty
    girl seemed to show interest in me while buying a Slim Jim at the
    convenient store, etc., etc.

    I mean, I realize fans what to analyze such, and I'm not faulting
    you for doing so. I'm just expressing how I think/feel about it.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to oldernow on Fri Jan 26 15:13:59 2024
    oldernow wrote:

    On 2024-01-13, Norbert K <norbertkosky69@gmail.com> wrote:
    Yeah, but you don't really think that "Run For Your Life" is
    on par with "Give Peace a Chance," do you? There's much to like
    about the former song. Even if you don't like RFYL, the bulk of
    John's work from that time is among his best. By the time of
    GPAC, he was a spent (or a drug- and Yoko-addled) force.

    I don't think they're equally good. But then I also don't expect
    all of a music artist's work to be on equal footing, or improving
    over time - especially with respect to my tastes. I don't think it
    means anything in particular if/when one song doesn't seem as good
    as another, e.g. that the artist lost or is losing their prowess.

    With a band like The Beatles - that spanned so many years and
    different styles - it would be impractical to expect every song to be
    equal. Clearly they all wrote songs that were great and they all
    wrote songs that were not so great... plus they all wrote songs that
    sat somewhere in between. So nobody should expect every Beatles song
    to be equally good.

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  • From oldernow@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Jan 28 13:53:58 2024
    On 2024-01-26, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    With a band like The Beatles - that spanned so many years and
    different styles - it would be impractical to expect every song to be
    equal. Clearly they all wrote songs that were great and they all
    wrote songs that were not so great... plus they all wrote songs that
    sat somewhere in between. So nobody should expect every Beatles song
    to be equally good.

    Indeed, the notion of "good" with respect to any category is useless
    if/when all items therein are equal.

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