Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture. Eventually, the police showed up.According to May Pang:
The police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's girlfriend] Patti decided to leavesoon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts of anger and anguish. He sounded just as
I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to blame for everything." Wehad met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.
[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the door!" Mintz was outside at
Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop, Lennon observedsarcastically: "He's a very brave man."
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture. Eventually, the police showed up.According to May Pang:
The police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's girlfriend] Patti decided to leavesoon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts of anger and anguish. He sounded just as
I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to blame for everything." Wehad met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.
[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the door!" Mintz was outside at
Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop, Lennon observedsarcastically: "He's a very brave man."
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:According to May Pang:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture. Eventually, the police showed up.
leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts of anger and anguish. He soundedThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's girlfriend] Patti decided to
We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to blame for everything."
the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the door!" Mintz was outside at
sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop, Lennon observed
The house John trashed was Peter Lawford's beach cottage. This is a place where JFK and Marilyn Monroe were said to have had trysts...ironically, Peter Lawford may have been the last person Marilyn spoke to before her death. Not to minimize John's badbehavior, but there could have been a few ghosts hanging around...
https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/john-lennon-destroyed-home-fit-rage-roman-polanski.html/
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture. Eventually, the police showed up.According to May Pang:
The police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's girlfriend] Patti decided to leavesoon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts of anger and anguish. He sounded just as
I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to blame for everything." Wehad met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.
[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the door!" Mintz was outside at
Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop, Lennon observedsarcastically: "He's a very brave man."
On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 10:18:29 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:up. According to May Pang:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture. Eventually, the police showed
leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts of anger and anguish. He soundedThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's girlfriend] Patti decided to
We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to blame for everything."
at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the door!" Mintz was outside
sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop, Lennon observed
bad behavior, but there could have been a few ghosts hanging around...The house John trashed was Peter Lawford's beach cottage. This is a place where JFK and Marilyn Monroe were said to have had trysts...ironically, Peter Lawford may have been the last person Marilyn spoke to before her death. Not to minimize John's
terrible shame for both of us," Dunne wrote.https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/john-lennon-destroyed-home-fit-rage-roman-polanski.html/Oh, I thought the rampage had occurred at Harold Seider's apartment in Hollywood.
Yeah, Peter Lawford's beach house was where a lot of rich & famous people carried out their trysts. "Getting to Peter Lawford's house" meant "Having sex with an A-list performer" of one sort of another.
Lawford's the guy who led the charge to expel Lennon from the Troubadour when Lennon heckled the Smothers Brothers. Lawford himself was in a bad way at the time, and tried to sell cocaine to Dominick Dunne -- who couldn't afford it. "It was a moment of
I don't know if I ever saw this particular house from the street, but I've been to Santa Monica many times. What a beautiful city. At least it used to be.I have family in LA, so spent some time there, but never went to that house. Next time, though!
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:According to May Pang:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture. Eventually, the police showed up.
leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts of anger and anguish. He soundedThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's girlfriend] Patti decided to
We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to blame for everything."
the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the door!" Mintz was outside at
sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop, Lennon observed
It is valuable that we have May's recollections. At the same time, however, we must acknowledge that her job was to be Yoko's mini-me.
On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 2:53:05 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:up. According to May Pang:
On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 10:18:29 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture. Eventually, the police showed
leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts of anger and anguish. He soundedThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's girlfriend] Patti decided to
everything." We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to blame for
outside at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the door!" Mintz was
sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop, Lennon observed
bad behavior, but there could have been a few ghosts hanging around...The house John trashed was Peter Lawford's beach cottage. This is a place where JFK and Marilyn Monroe were said to have had trysts...ironically, Peter Lawford may have been the last person Marilyn spoke to before her death. Not to minimize John's
of terrible shame for both of us," Dunne wrote.https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/john-lennon-destroyed-home-fit-rage-roman-polanski.html/Oh, I thought the rampage had occurred at Harold Seider's apartment in Hollywood.
Yeah, Peter Lawford's beach house was where a lot of rich & famous people carried out their trysts. "Getting to Peter Lawford's house" meant "Having sex with an A-list performer" of one sort of another.
Lawford's the guy who led the charge to expel Lennon from the Troubadour when Lennon heckled the Smothers Brothers. Lawford himself was in a bad way at the time, and tried to sell cocaine to Dominick Dunne -- who couldn't afford it. "It was a moment
I don't know if I ever saw this particular house from the street, but I've been to Santa Monica many times. What a beautiful city. At least it used to be.I have family in LA, so spent some time there, but never went to that house. Next time, though!
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:28:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:up. According to May Pang:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture. Eventually, the police showed
leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts of anger and anguish. He soundedThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's girlfriend] Patti decided to
We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to blame for everything."
at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the door!" Mintz was outside
sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop, Lennon observed
about me, Elliot? You know it's all true!" Mintz responded with, "Yes, but you know Yoko doesn't want you talking about it."It is valuable that we have May's recollections. At the same time, however, we must acknowledge that her job was to be Yoko's mini-me.Yes, before she and John left for Los Angeles, May mostly carried out Ono's instructions.
However, I don't think May toned down her recollections in Loving John and in interviews out of deference to Yoko. Otherwise, why would Yoko have sent Mintz out to claim he had documentary proof that *everything in her book* was untrue?
Also, May gave a talk and took questions at some sort of Beatlesfest in the 1980s. Mintz also appeared -- and denied May's claims. Later, some of the Beatles fans met at a nearby bar -- as did May and Mintz. May demanded, "Why do you say those things
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:28:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:up. According to May Pang:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture. Eventually, the police showed
leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts of anger and anguish. He soundedThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's girlfriend] Patti decided to
We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to blame for everything."
at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the door!" Mintz was outside
sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop, Lennon observed
It is valuable that we have May's recollections. At the same time, however, we must acknowledge that her job was to be Yoko's mini-me.Yes, before she and John left for Los Angeles, May mostly carried out Ono's instructions.
However, I don't think May toned down her recollections in Loving John and in interviews out of deference to Yoko. Otherwise, why would Yoko have sent Mintz out to claim he had documentary proof that *everything in her book* was untrue?
Also, May gave a talk and took questions at some sort of Beatlesfest in the 1980s. Mintz also appeared -- and denied May's claims. Later, some of the Beatles fans met at a nearby bar -- as did May and Mintz. May demanded, "Why do you say those thingsabout me, Elliot? You know it's all true!" Mintz responded with, "Yes, but you know Yoko doesn't want you talking about it."
On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 10:18:29 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:up. According to May Pang:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture. Eventually, the police showed
leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts of anger and anguish. He soundedThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's girlfriend] Patti decided to
We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to blame for everything."
at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the door!" Mintz was outside
sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop, Lennon observed
bad behavior, but there could have been a few ghosts hanging around...The house John trashed was Peter Lawford's beach cottage. This is a place where JFK and Marilyn Monroe were said to have had trysts...ironically, Peter Lawford may have been the last person Marilyn spoke to before her death. Not to minimize John's
terrible shame for both of us," Dunne wrote.https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/john-lennon-destroyed-home-fit-rage-roman-polanski.html/Oh, I thought the rampage had occurred at Harold Seider's apartment in Hollywood.
Yeah, Peter Lawford's beach house was where a lot of rich & famous people carried out their trysts. "Getting to Peter Lawford's house" meant "Having sex with an A-list performer" of one sort of another.
Lawford's the guy who led the charge to expel Lennon from the Troubadour when Lennon heckled the Smothers Brothers. Lawford himself was in a bad way at the time, and tried to sell cocaine to Dominick Dunne -- who couldn't afford it. "It was a moment of
I don't know if I ever saw this particular house from the street, but I've been to Santa Monica many times. What a beautiful city. At least it used to be.Any chance John met Sharon Tate? Ringo did...
On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 2:53:05 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:up. According to May Pang:
On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 10:18:29 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture. Eventually, the police showed
leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts of anger and anguish. He soundedThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's girlfriend] Patti decided to
everything." We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to blame for
outside at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the door!" Mintz was
sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop, Lennon observed
bad behavior, but there could have been a few ghosts hanging around...The house John trashed was Peter Lawford's beach cottage. This is a place where JFK and Marilyn Monroe were said to have had trysts...ironically, Peter Lawford may have been the last person Marilyn spoke to before her death. Not to minimize John's
of terrible shame for both of us," Dunne wrote.https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/john-lennon-destroyed-home-fit-rage-roman-polanski.html/Oh, I thought the rampage had occurred at Harold Seider's apartment in Hollywood.
Yeah, Peter Lawford's beach house was where a lot of rich & famous people carried out their trysts. "Getting to Peter Lawford's house" meant "Having sex with an A-list performer" of one sort of another.
Lawford's the guy who led the charge to expel Lennon from the Troubadour when Lennon heckled the Smothers Brothers. Lawford himself was in a bad way at the time, and tried to sell cocaine to Dominick Dunne -- who couldn't afford it. "It was a moment
I don't know if I ever saw this particular house from the street, but I've been to Santa Monica many times. What a beautiful city. At least it used to be.Any chance John met Sharon Tate? Ringo did...
https://arrivewithouttravelling.com/blog/f/manson-blog-draft
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:24:16 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:up. According to May Pang:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:28:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture. Eventually, the police showed
leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts of anger and anguish. He soundedThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's girlfriend] Patti decided to
everything." We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to blame for
outside at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the door!" Mintz was
sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop, Lennon observed
about me, Elliot? You know it's all true!" Mintz responded with, "Yes, but you know Yoko doesn't want you talking about it."It is valuable that we have May's recollections. At the same time, however, we must acknowledge that her job was to be Yoko's mini-me.Yes, before she and John left for Los Angeles, May mostly carried out Ono's instructions.
However, I don't think May toned down her recollections in Loving John and in interviews out of deference to Yoko. Otherwise, why would Yoko have sent Mintz out to claim he had documentary proof that *everything in her book* was untrue?
Also, May gave a talk and took questions at some sort of Beatlesfest in the 1980s. Mintz also appeared -- and denied May's claims. Later, some of the Beatles fans met at a nearby bar -- as did May and Mintz. May demanded, "Why do you say those things
So, in private, Mintz admitted that what he was giving to the public was bullshit. Hey, he could get a job at Fox News!I have to wonder if John's Polanski rant was a portent that he too might become a victim of the 'Rosemary's Baby Curse'...
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:00:55 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:showed up. According to May Pang:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:24:16 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:28:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture. Eventually, the police
to leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts of anger and anguish. He soundedThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's girlfriend] Patti decided
everything." We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to blame for
outside at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the door!" Mintz was
sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop, Lennon observed
things about me, Elliot? You know it's all true!" Mintz responded with, "Yes, but you know Yoko doesn't want you talking about it."It is valuable that we have May's recollections. At the same time, however, we must acknowledge that her job was to be Yoko's mini-me.Yes, before she and John left for Los Angeles, May mostly carried out Ono's instructions.
However, I don't think May toned down her recollections in Loving John and in interviews out of deference to Yoko. Otherwise, why would Yoko have sent Mintz out to claim he had documentary proof that *everything in her book* was untrue?
Also, May gave a talk and took questions at some sort of Beatlesfest in the 1980s. Mintz also appeared -- and denied May's claims. Later, some of the Beatles fans met at a nearby bar -- as did May and Mintz. May demanded, "Why do you say those
So, in private, Mintz admitted that what he was giving to the public was bullshit. Hey, he could get a job at Fox News!I have to wonder if John's Polanski rant was a portent that he too might become a victim of the 'Rosemary's Baby Curse'...
https://societyofrock.com/is-john-lennon-a-victim-of-the-rosemarys-baby-curse/
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:23:59 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:showed up. According to May Pang:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:00:55 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:24:16 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:28:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture. Eventually, the police
decided to leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts of anger and anguish. HeThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's girlfriend] Patti
everything." We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to blame for
outside at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the door!" Mintz was
observed sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop, Lennon
things about me, Elliot? You know it's all true!" Mintz responded with, "Yes, but you know Yoko doesn't want you talking about it."It is valuable that we have May's recollections. At the same time, however, we must acknowledge that her job was to be Yoko's mini-me.Yes, before she and John left for Los Angeles, May mostly carried out Ono's instructions.
However, I don't think May toned down her recollections in Loving John and in interviews out of deference to Yoko. Otherwise, why would Yoko have sent Mintz out to claim he had documentary proof that *everything in her book* was untrue?
Also, May gave a talk and took questions at some sort of Beatlesfest in the 1980s. Mintz also appeared -- and denied May's claims. Later, some of the Beatles fans met at a nearby bar -- as did May and Mintz. May demanded, "Why do you say those
To add another odd irony, Sharon and Roman were said to have had dinner with Bobby Kennedy shortly before his assassination...I wonder what it was that inspired that rant. Did Lennon sense that Polanski was -- as Sharon Tate herself eventually described him in private -- a "little creep"?So, in private, Mintz admitted that what he was giving to the public was bullshit. Hey, he could get a job at Fox News!I have to wonder if John's Polanski rant was a portent that he too might become a victim of the 'Rosemary's Baby Curse'...
https://societyofrock.com/is-john-lennon-a-victim-of-the-rosemarys-baby-curse/
Polanski was talented and successful, but Tate was way out of his league looks-wise. She was also much more psychologically normal. Polanski subjected Tate to disgusting and degrading things (some of which come up in Chaos by Tom O'Neil).
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:showed up. According to May Pang:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:23:59 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:00:55 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:24:16 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:28:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture. Eventually, the police
decided to leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts of anger and anguish. HeThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's girlfriend] Patti
everything." We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to blame for
outside at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the door!" Mintz was
observed sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop, Lennon
things about me, Elliot? You know it's all true!" Mintz responded with, "Yes, but you know Yoko doesn't want you talking about it."It is valuable that we have May's recollections. At the same time, however, we must acknowledge that her job was to be Yoko's mini-me.Yes, before she and John left for Los Angeles, May mostly carried out Ono's instructions.
However, I don't think May toned down her recollections in Loving John and in interviews out of deference to Yoko. Otherwise, why would Yoko have sent Mintz out to claim he had documentary proof that *everything in her book* was untrue?
Also, May gave a talk and took questions at some sort of Beatlesfest in the 1980s. Mintz also appeared -- and denied May's claims. Later, some of the Beatles fans met at a nearby bar -- as did May and Mintz. May demanded, "Why do you say those
I wonder what it was that inspired that rant. Did Lennon sense that Polanski was -- as Sharon Tate herself eventually described him in private -- a "little creep"?So, in private, Mintz admitted that what he was giving to the public was bullshit. Hey, he could get a job at Fox News!I have to wonder if John's Polanski rant was a portent that he too might become a victim of the 'Rosemary's Baby Curse'...
https://societyofrock.com/is-john-lennon-a-victim-of-the-rosemarys-baby-curse/
Polanski was talented and successful, but Tate was way out of his league looks-wise. She was also much more psychologically normal. Polanski subjected Tate to disgusting and degrading things (some of which come up in Chaos by Tom O'Neil).To add another odd irony, Sharon and Roman were said to have had dinner with Bobby Kennedy shortly before his assassination...
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 3:56:17 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:police showed up. According to May Pang:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:23:59 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:00:55 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:24:16 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:28:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture. Eventually, the
decided to leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts of anger and anguish. HeThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's girlfriend] Patti
everything." We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to blame for
was outside at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the door!" Mintz
observed sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop, Lennon
those things about me, Elliot? You know it's all true!" Mintz responded with, "Yes, but you know Yoko doesn't want you talking about it."It is valuable that we have May's recollections. At the same time, however, we must acknowledge that her job was to be Yoko's mini-me.Yes, before she and John left for Los Angeles, May mostly carried out Ono's instructions.
However, I don't think May toned down her recollections in Loving John and in interviews out of deference to Yoko. Otherwise, why would Yoko have sent Mintz out to claim he had documentary proof that *everything in her book* was untrue?
Also, May gave a talk and took questions at some sort of Beatlesfest in the 1980s. Mintz also appeared -- and denied May's claims. Later, some of the Beatles fans met at a nearby bar -- as did May and Mintz. May demanded, "Why do you say
I wonder what it was that inspired that rant. Did Lennon sense that Polanski was -- as Sharon Tate herself eventually described him in private -- a "little creep"?So, in private, Mintz admitted that what he was giving to the public was bullshit. Hey, he could get a job at Fox News!I have to wonder if John's Polanski rant was a portent that he too might become a victim of the 'Rosemary's Baby Curse'...
https://societyofrock.com/is-john-lennon-a-victim-of-the-rosemarys-baby-curse/
Sharon and Roman also spent a good deal of time with Frank Sinatra and Mia Farrow. I suspect that, if Sinatra knew the sort of twisted stuff Roman had been subjecting Sharon to, he'd have kicked Roman's ass.Polanski was talented and successful, but Tate was way out of his league looks-wise. She was also much more psychologically normal. Polanski subjected Tate to disgusting and degrading things (some of which come up in Chaos by Tom O'Neil).To add another odd irony, Sharon and Roman were said to have had dinner with Bobby Kennedy shortly before his assassination...
(Sinatra instructed a waiter to punch Dominick Dunne in the head once, because he knew Dunne was using his wealthy wife Ellen Griffin Dunne, as a "beard.")
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 6:46:50 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:police showed up. According to May Pang:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 3:56:17 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:23:59 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:00:55 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:24:16 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:28:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture. Eventually, the
decided to leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts of anger and anguish. HeThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's girlfriend] Patti
everything." We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to blame for
was outside at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the door!" Mintz
observed sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop, Lennon
those things about me, Elliot? You know it's all true!" Mintz responded with, "Yes, but you know Yoko doesn't want you talking about it."It is valuable that we have May's recollections. At the same time, however, we must acknowledge that her job was to be Yoko's mini-me.Yes, before she and John left for Los Angeles, May mostly carried out Ono's instructions.
However, I don't think May toned down her recollections in Loving John and in interviews out of deference to Yoko. Otherwise, why would Yoko have sent Mintz out to claim he had documentary proof that *everything in her book* was untrue?
Also, May gave a talk and took questions at some sort of Beatlesfest in the 1980s. Mintz also appeared -- and denied May's claims. Later, some of the Beatles fans met at a nearby bar -- as did May and Mintz. May demanded, "Why do you say
I wonder what it was that inspired that rant. Did Lennon sense that Polanski was -- as Sharon Tate herself eventually described him in private -- a "little creep"?So, in private, Mintz admitted that what he was giving to the public was bullshit. Hey, he could get a job at Fox News!I have to wonder if John's Polanski rant was a portent that he too might become a victim of the 'Rosemary's Baby Curse'...
https://societyofrock.com/is-john-lennon-a-victim-of-the-rosemarys-baby-curse/
Sharon and Roman also spent a good deal of time with Frank Sinatra and Mia Farrow. I suspect that, if Sinatra knew the sort of twisted stuff Roman had been subjecting Sharon to, he'd have kicked Roman's ass.Polanski was talented and successful, but Tate was way out of his league looks-wise. She was also much more psychologically normal. Polanski subjected Tate to disgusting and degrading things (some of which come up in Chaos by Tom O'Neil).To add another odd irony, Sharon and Roman were said to have had dinner with Bobby Kennedy shortly before his assassination...
(Sinatra instructed a waiter to punch Dominick Dunne in the head once, because he knew Dunne was using his wealthy wife Ellen Griffin Dunne, as a "beard.")Good points...
RFK, however, was assassinated....another terrible Murder Most Foul...
So John was living in a house very possibly full of Kennedy/Monroe ghosts, not all that far from where the Tate-LaBianca' murders took place (one of them was.a Rosemary) and he's throwing a fit about Roman Polanski...
Makes sense to me...
Pamela
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 8:34:04 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:police showed up. According to May Pang:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 6:46:50 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 3:56:17 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:23:59 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:00:55 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:24:16 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:28:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture. Eventually, the
Patti decided to leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts of anger andThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's girlfriend]
for everything." We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to blame
Mintz was outside at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the door!"
observed sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop, Lennon
those things about me, Elliot? You know it's all true!" Mintz responded with, "Yes, but you know Yoko doesn't want you talking about it."It is valuable that we have May's recollections. At the same time, however, we must acknowledge that her job was to be Yoko's mini-me.Yes, before she and John left for Los Angeles, May mostly carried out Ono's instructions.
However, I don't think May toned down her recollections in Loving John and in interviews out of deference to Yoko. Otherwise, why would Yoko have sent Mintz out to claim he had documentary proof that *everything in her book* was untrue?
Also, May gave a talk and took questions at some sort of Beatlesfest in the 1980s. Mintz also appeared -- and denied May's claims. Later, some of the Beatles fans met at a nearby bar -- as did May and Mintz. May demanded, "Why do you say
go to her place and obtain help for her. This was a likely factor in Lawford's own long, slow downward spiral.I wonder what it was that inspired that rant. Did Lennon sense that Polanski was -- as Sharon Tate herself eventually described him in private -- a "little creep"?So, in private, Mintz admitted that what he was giving to the public was bullshit. Hey, he could get a job at Fox News!I have to wonder if John's Polanski rant was a portent that he too might become a victim of the 'Rosemary's Baby Curse'...
https://societyofrock.com/is-john-lennon-a-victim-of-the-rosemarys-baby-curse/
Sharon and Roman also spent a good deal of time with Frank Sinatra and Mia Farrow. I suspect that, if Sinatra knew the sort of twisted stuff Roman had been subjecting Sharon to, he'd have kicked Roman's ass.Polanski was talented and successful, but Tate was way out of his league looks-wise. She was also much more psychologically normal. Polanski subjected Tate to disgusting and degrading things (some of which come up in Chaos by Tom O'Neil).To add another odd irony, Sharon and Roman were said to have had dinner with Bobby Kennedy shortly before his assassination...
(Sinatra instructed a waiter to punch Dominick Dunne in the head once, because he knew Dunne was using his wealthy wife Ellen Griffin Dunne, as a "beard.")Good points...
RFK, however, was assassinated....another terrible Murder Most Foul...
So John was living in a house very possibly full of Kennedy/Monroe ghosts, not all that far from where the Tate-LaBianca' murders took place (one of them was.a Rosemary) and he's throwing a fit about Roman Polanski...
Makes sense to me...
PamelaYeah. And I just remembered that Peter Lawford had called Marilyn to invite her to a party at his place on the night she died. He was concerned by how drugged she sounded. When he learned that she had died, he was consumed with guilt at his failure to
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 11:20:41 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:police showed up. According to May Pang:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 8:34:04 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 6:46:50 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 3:56:17 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:23:59 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:00:55 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:24:16 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:28:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture. Eventually, the
Patti decided to leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts of anger andThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's girlfriend]
for everything." We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to blame
Mintz was outside at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the door!"
Lennon observed sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop,
say those things about me, Elliot? You know it's all true!" Mintz responded with, "Yes, but you know Yoko doesn't want you talking about it."It is valuable that we have May's recollections. At the same time, however, we must acknowledge that her job was to be Yoko's mini-me.Yes, before she and John left for Los Angeles, May mostly carried out Ono's instructions.
However, I don't think May toned down her recollections in Loving John and in interviews out of deference to Yoko. Otherwise, why would Yoko have sent Mintz out to claim he had documentary proof that *everything in her book* was untrue?
Also, May gave a talk and took questions at some sort of Beatlesfest in the 1980s. Mintz also appeared -- and denied May's claims. Later, some of the Beatles fans met at a nearby bar -- as did May and Mintz. May demanded, "Why do you
to go to her place and obtain help for her. This was a likely factor in Lawford's own long, slow downward spiral.I wonder what it was that inspired that rant. Did Lennon sense that Polanski was -- as Sharon Tate herself eventually described him in private -- a "little creep"?So, in private, Mintz admitted that what he was giving to the public was bullshit. Hey, he could get a job at Fox News!I have to wonder if John's Polanski rant was a portent that he too might become a victim of the 'Rosemary's Baby Curse'...
https://societyofrock.com/is-john-lennon-a-victim-of-the-rosemarys-baby-curse/
Sharon and Roman also spent a good deal of time with Frank Sinatra and Mia Farrow. I suspect that, if Sinatra knew the sort of twisted stuff Roman had been subjecting Sharon to, he'd have kicked Roman's ass.Polanski was talented and successful, but Tate was way out of his league looks-wise. She was also much more psychologically normal. Polanski subjected Tate to disgusting and degrading things (some of which come up in Chaos by Tom O'Neil).To add another odd irony, Sharon and Roman were said to have had dinner with Bobby Kennedy shortly before his assassination...
(Sinatra instructed a waiter to punch Dominick Dunne in the head once, because he knew Dunne was using his wealthy wife Ellen Griffin Dunne, as a "beard.")Good points...
RFK, however, was assassinated....another terrible Murder Most Foul...
So John was living in a house very possibly full of Kennedy/Monroe ghosts, not all that far from where the Tate-LaBianca' murders took place (one of them was.a Rosemary) and he's throwing a fit about Roman Polanski...
Makes sense to me...
PamelaYeah. And I just remembered that Peter Lawford had called Marilyn to invite her to a party at his place on the night she died. He was concerned by how drugged she sounded. When he learned that she had died, he was consumed with guilt at his failure
Yes. Marilyn thought Peter was her fried. She had a number of Kennedy connections when she died...
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 10:05:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:the police showed up. According to May Pang:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 11:20:41 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 8:34:04 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 6:46:50 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 3:56:17 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:23:59 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:00:55 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:24:16 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:28:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture. Eventually,
Patti decided to leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts of anger andThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's girlfriend]
blame for everything." We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to
Mintz was outside at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the door!"
Lennon observed sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop,
untrue?It is valuable that we have May's recollections. At the same time, however, we must acknowledge that her job was to be Yoko's mini-me.Yes, before she and John left for Los Angeles, May mostly carried out Ono's instructions.
However, I don't think May toned down her recollections in Loving John and in interviews out of deference to Yoko. Otherwise, why would Yoko have sent Mintz out to claim he had documentary proof that *everything in her book* was
say those things about me, Elliot? You know it's all true!" Mintz responded with, "Yes, but you know Yoko doesn't want you talking about it."Also, May gave a talk and took questions at some sort of Beatlesfest in the 1980s. Mintz also appeared -- and denied May's claims. Later, some of the Beatles fans met at a nearby bar -- as did May and Mintz. May demanded, "Why do you
to go to her place and obtain help for her. This was a likely factor in Lawford's own long, slow downward spiral.I wonder what it was that inspired that rant. Did Lennon sense that Polanski was -- as Sharon Tate herself eventually described him in private -- a "little creep"?So, in private, Mintz admitted that what he was giving to the public was bullshit. Hey, he could get a job at Fox News!I have to wonder if John's Polanski rant was a portent that he too might become a victim of the 'Rosemary's Baby Curse'...
https://societyofrock.com/is-john-lennon-a-victim-of-the-rosemarys-baby-curse/
Sharon and Roman also spent a good deal of time with Frank Sinatra and Mia Farrow. I suspect that, if Sinatra knew the sort of twisted stuff Roman had been subjecting Sharon to, he'd have kicked Roman's ass.Polanski was talented and successful, but Tate was way out of his league looks-wise. She was also much more psychologically normal. Polanski subjected Tate to disgusting and degrading things (some of which come up in Chaos by Tom O'Neil).To add another odd irony, Sharon and Roman were said to have had dinner with Bobby Kennedy shortly before his assassination...
(Sinatra instructed a waiter to punch Dominick Dunne in the head once, because he knew Dunne was using his wealthy wife Ellen Griffin Dunne, as a "beard.")Good points...
RFK, however, was assassinated....another terrible Murder Most Foul...
So John was living in a house very possibly full of Kennedy/Monroe ghosts, not all that far from where the Tate-LaBianca' murders took place (one of them was.a Rosemary) and he's throwing a fit about Roman Polanski...
Makes sense to me...
PamelaYeah. And I just remembered that Peter Lawford had called Marilyn to invite her to a party at his place on the night she died. He was concerned by how drugged she sounded. When he learned that she had died, he was consumed with guilt at his failure
Well, that's what he said...kind of convenient...Yes. Marilyn thought Peter was her fried. She had a number of Kennedy connections when she died...If I recall correctly, as her phone call with Lawford approached its end, Marilyn asked him to say goodbye to John and Robert Kennedy for her. Lawford should at the very least have sent someone over to check up on her.
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 2:47:10 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:the police showed up. According to May Pang:
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 10:05:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 11:20:41 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 8:34:04 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 6:46:50 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 3:56:17 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:23:59 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:00:55 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:24:16 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:28:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture. Eventually,
Patti decided to leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts of anger andThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's girlfriend]
blame for everything." We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to
Mintz was outside at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the door!"
Lennon observed sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop,
untrue?It is valuable that we have May's recollections. At the same time, however, we must acknowledge that her job was to be Yoko's mini-me.Yes, before she and John left for Los Angeles, May mostly carried out Ono's instructions.
However, I don't think May toned down her recollections in Loving John and in interviews out of deference to Yoko. Otherwise, why would Yoko have sent Mintz out to claim he had documentary proof that *everything in her book* was
you say those things about me, Elliot? You know it's all true!" Mintz responded with, "Yes, but you know Yoko doesn't want you talking about it."Also, May gave a talk and took questions at some sort of Beatlesfest in the 1980s. Mintz also appeared -- and denied May's claims. Later, some of the Beatles fans met at a nearby bar -- as did May and Mintz. May demanded, "Why do
failure to go to her place and obtain help for her. This was a likely factor in Lawford's own long, slow downward spiral.I wonder what it was that inspired that rant. Did Lennon sense that Polanski was -- as Sharon Tate herself eventually described him in private -- a "little creep"?So, in private, Mintz admitted that what he was giving to the public was bullshit. Hey, he could get a job at Fox News!I have to wonder if John's Polanski rant was a portent that he too might become a victim of the 'Rosemary's Baby Curse'...
https://societyofrock.com/is-john-lennon-a-victim-of-the-rosemarys-baby-curse/
Sharon and Roman also spent a good deal of time with Frank Sinatra and Mia Farrow. I suspect that, if Sinatra knew the sort of twisted stuff Roman had been subjecting Sharon to, he'd have kicked Roman's ass.Polanski was talented and successful, but Tate was way out of his league looks-wise. She was also much more psychologically normal. Polanski subjected Tate to disgusting and degrading things (some of which come up in Chaos by Tom O'Neil).To add another odd irony, Sharon and Roman were said to have had dinner with Bobby Kennedy shortly before his assassination...
(Sinatra instructed a waiter to punch Dominick Dunne in the head once, because he knew Dunne was using his wealthy wife Ellen Griffin Dunne, as a "beard.")Good points...
RFK, however, was assassinated....another terrible Murder Most Foul...
So John was living in a house very possibly full of Kennedy/Monroe ghosts, not all that far from where the Tate-LaBianca' murders took place (one of them was.a Rosemary) and he's throwing a fit about Roman Polanski...
Makes sense to me...
PamelaYeah. And I just remembered that Peter Lawford had called Marilyn to invite her to a party at his place on the night she died. He was concerned by how drugged she sounded. When he learned that she had died, he was consumed with guilt at his
Well, that's what he said...kind of convenient...Yes. Marilyn thought Peter was her fried. She had a number of Kennedy connections when she died...If I recall correctly, as her phone call with Lawford approached its end, Marilyn asked him to say goodbye to John and Robert Kennedy for her. Lawford should at the very least have sent someone over to check up on her.
On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 3:03:22 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:Eventually, the police showed up. According to May Pang:
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 2:47:10 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 10:05:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 11:20:41 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 8:34:04 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 6:46:50 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 3:56:17 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:23:59 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:00:55 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:24:16 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:28:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture.
girlfriend] Patti decided to leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts ofThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's
blame for everything." We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is to
door!" Mintz was outside at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the
Lennon observed sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief stop,
untrue?It is valuable that we have May's recollections. At the same time, however, we must acknowledge that her job was to be Yoko's mini-me.Yes, before she and John left for Los Angeles, May mostly carried out Ono's instructions.
However, I don't think May toned down her recollections in Loving John and in interviews out of deference to Yoko. Otherwise, why would Yoko have sent Mintz out to claim he had documentary proof that *everything in her book* was
you say those things about me, Elliot? You know it's all true!" Mintz responded with, "Yes, but you know Yoko doesn't want you talking about it."Also, May gave a talk and took questions at some sort of Beatlesfest in the 1980s. Mintz also appeared -- and denied May's claims. Later, some of the Beatles fans met at a nearby bar -- as did May and Mintz. May demanded, "Why do
.I wonder what it was that inspired that rant. Did Lennon sense that Polanski was -- as Sharon Tate herself eventually described him in private -- a "little creep"?So, in private, Mintz admitted that what he was giving to the public was bullshit. Hey, he could get a job at Fox News!I have to wonder if John's Polanski rant was a portent that he too might become a victim of the 'Rosemary's Baby Curse'...
https://societyofrock.com/is-john-lennon-a-victim-of-the-rosemarys-baby-curse/
Polanski was talented and successful, but Tate was way out of his league looks-wise. She was also much more psychologically normal. Polanski subjected Tate to disgusting and degrading things (some of which come up in Chaos by Tom O'Neil)
failure to go to her place and obtain help for her. This was a likely factor in Lawford's own long, slow downward spiral.To add another odd irony, Sharon and Roman were said to have had dinner with Bobby Kennedy shortly before his assassination...Sharon and Roman also spent a good deal of time with Frank Sinatra and Mia Farrow. I suspect that, if Sinatra knew the sort of twisted stuff Roman had been subjecting Sharon to, he'd have kicked Roman's ass.
(Sinatra instructed a waiter to punch Dominick Dunne in the head once, because he knew Dunne was using his wealthy wife Ellen Griffin Dunne, as a "beard.")Good points...
RFK, however, was assassinated....another terrible Murder Most Foul...
So John was living in a house very possibly full of Kennedy/Monroe ghosts, not all that far from where the Tate-LaBianca' murders took place (one of them was.a Rosemary) and he's throwing a fit about Roman Polanski...
Makes sense to me...
PamelaYeah. And I just remembered that Peter Lawford had called Marilyn to invite her to a party at his place on the night she died. He was concerned by how drugged she sounded. When he learned that she had died, he was consumed with guilt at his
was enough to send her over the edge.I think the standard interpretation (likely suicide, with JFK's break-up with her as the trigger) of Marilyn Monroe's death is true. She was so shaky emotionally and on a disturbing overabundance of prescription drugs that the end of that relationshipWell, that's what he said...kind of convenient...Yes. Marilyn thought Peter was her fried. She had a number of Kennedy connections when she died...If I recall correctly, as her phone call with Lawford approached its end, Marilyn asked him to say goodbye to John and Robert Kennedy for her. Lawford should at the very least have sent someone over to check up on her.
Marilyn's housekeeper was so alarmed by the actress' dark mood that very day that she sent for Monroe's psychiatrist. He in turn was sufficiently concerned that he asked the housekeeper to stay overnight to keep an eye on the troubled star. Nobody elsewas in the Brentwood house.
On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 8:14:02 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:Eventually, the police showed up. According to May Pang:
On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 3:03:22 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 2:47:10 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 10:05:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 11:20:41 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 8:34:04 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 6:46:50 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 3:56:17 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:23:59 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:00:55 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:24:16 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:28:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture.
girlfriend] Patti decided to leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts ofThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's
to blame for everything." We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk is
door!" Mintz was outside at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the
stop, Lennon observed sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief
untrue?It is valuable that we have May's recollections. At the same time, however, we must acknowledge that her job was to be Yoko's mini-me.Yes, before she and John left for Los Angeles, May mostly carried out Ono's instructions.
However, I don't think May toned down her recollections in Loving John and in interviews out of deference to Yoko. Otherwise, why would Yoko have sent Mintz out to claim he had documentary proof that *everything in her book* was
do you say those things about me, Elliot? You know it's all true!" Mintz responded with, "Yes, but you know Yoko doesn't want you talking about it."Also, May gave a talk and took questions at some sort of Beatlesfest in the 1980s. Mintz also appeared -- and denied May's claims. Later, some of the Beatles fans met at a nearby bar -- as did May and Mintz. May demanded, "Why
Neil).I wonder what it was that inspired that rant. Did Lennon sense that Polanski was -- as Sharon Tate herself eventually described him in private -- a "little creep"?So, in private, Mintz admitted that what he was giving to the public was bullshit. Hey, he could get a job at Fox News!I have to wonder if John's Polanski rant was a portent that he too might become a victim of the 'Rosemary's Baby Curse'...
https://societyofrock.com/is-john-lennon-a-victim-of-the-rosemarys-baby-curse/
Polanski was talented and successful, but Tate was way out of his league looks-wise. She was also much more psychologically normal. Polanski subjected Tate to disgusting and degrading things (some of which come up in Chaos by Tom O'
failure to go to her place and obtain help for her. This was a likely factor in Lawford's own long, slow downward spiral.To add another odd irony, Sharon and Roman were said to have had dinner with Bobby Kennedy shortly before his assassination...Sharon and Roman also spent a good deal of time with Frank Sinatra and Mia Farrow. I suspect that, if Sinatra knew the sort of twisted stuff Roman had been subjecting Sharon to, he'd have kicked Roman's ass.
(Sinatra instructed a waiter to punch Dominick Dunne in the head once, because he knew Dunne was using his wealthy wife Ellen Griffin Dunne, as a "beard.")Good points...
RFK, however, was assassinated....another terrible Murder Most Foul...
So John was living in a house very possibly full of Kennedy/Monroe ghosts, not all that far from where the Tate-LaBianca' murders took place (one of them was.a Rosemary) and he's throwing a fit about Roman Polanski...
Makes sense to me...
PamelaYeah. And I just remembered that Peter Lawford had called Marilyn to invite her to a party at his place on the night she died. He was concerned by how drugged she sounded. When he learned that she had died, he was consumed with guilt at his
relationship was enough to send her over the edge.I think the standard interpretation (likely suicide, with JFK's break-up with her as the trigger) of Marilyn Monroe's death is true. She was so shaky emotionally and on a disturbing overabundance of prescription drugs that the end of thatWell, that's what he said...kind of convenient...Yes. Marilyn thought Peter was her fried. She had a number of Kennedy connections when she died...If I recall correctly, as her phone call with Lawford approached its end, Marilyn asked him to say goodbye to John and Robert Kennedy for her. Lawford should at the very least have sent someone over to check up on her.
else was in the Brentwood house.Marilyn's housekeeper was so alarmed by the actress' dark mood that very day that she sent for Monroe's psychiatrist. He in turn was sufficiently concerned that he asked the housekeeper to stay overnight to keep an eye on the troubled star. Nobody
That is all part of the coverup.
Marilyn put herself in the crosshairs by singing Happy Birthday to JFK at Madison Square Garden.
Bobby may have been at he house that last day.
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 3:38:29 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:Eventually, the police showed up. According to May Pang:
On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 8:14:02 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 3:03:22 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 2:47:10 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 10:05:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 11:20:41 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 8:34:04 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 6:46:50 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 3:56:17 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:23:59 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:00:55 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:24:16 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:28:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture.
girlfriend] Patti decided to leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts ofThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's
is to blame for everything." We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk
door!" Mintz was outside at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through the
stop, Lennon observed sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's brief
was untrue?It is valuable that we have May's recollections. At the same time, however, we must acknowledge that her job was to be Yoko's mini-me.Yes, before she and John left for Los Angeles, May mostly carried out Ono's instructions.
However, I don't think May toned down her recollections in Loving John and in interviews out of deference to Yoko. Otherwise, why would Yoko have sent Mintz out to claim he had documentary proof that *everything in her book*
do you say those things about me, Elliot? You know it's all true!" Mintz responded with, "Yes, but you know Yoko doesn't want you talking about it."Also, May gave a talk and took questions at some sort of Beatlesfest in the 1980s. Mintz also appeared -- and denied May's claims. Later, some of the Beatles fans met at a nearby bar -- as did May and Mintz. May demanded, "Why
Neil).I wonder what it was that inspired that rant. Did Lennon sense that Polanski was -- as Sharon Tate herself eventually described him in private -- a "little creep"?So, in private, Mintz admitted that what he was giving to the public was bullshit. Hey, he could get a job at Fox News!I have to wonder if John's Polanski rant was a portent that he too might become a victim of the 'Rosemary's Baby Curse'...
https://societyofrock.com/is-john-lennon-a-victim-of-the-rosemarys-baby-curse/
Polanski was talented and successful, but Tate was way out of his league looks-wise. She was also much more psychologically normal. Polanski subjected Tate to disgusting and degrading things (some of which come up in Chaos by Tom O'
failure to go to her place and obtain help for her. This was a likely factor in Lawford's own long, slow downward spiral.To add another odd irony, Sharon and Roman were said to have had dinner with Bobby Kennedy shortly before his assassination...Sharon and Roman also spent a good deal of time with Frank Sinatra and Mia Farrow. I suspect that, if Sinatra knew the sort of twisted stuff Roman had been subjecting Sharon to, he'd have kicked Roman's ass.
(Sinatra instructed a waiter to punch Dominick Dunne in the head once, because he knew Dunne was using his wealthy wife Ellen Griffin Dunne, as a "beard.")Good points...
RFK, however, was assassinated....another terrible Murder Most Foul...
So John was living in a house very possibly full of Kennedy/Monroe ghosts, not all that far from where the Tate-LaBianca' murders took place (one of them was.a Rosemary) and he's throwing a fit about Roman Polanski...
Makes sense to me...
PamelaYeah. And I just remembered that Peter Lawford had called Marilyn to invite her to a party at his place on the night she died. He was concerned by how drugged she sounded. When he learned that she had died, he was consumed with guilt at his
relationship was enough to send her over the edge.I think the standard interpretation (likely suicide, with JFK's break-up with her as the trigger) of Marilyn Monroe's death is true. She was so shaky emotionally and on a disturbing overabundance of prescription drugs that the end of thatWell, that's what he said...kind of convenient...Yes. Marilyn thought Peter was her fried. She had a number of Kennedy connections when she died...If I recall correctly, as her phone call with Lawford approached its end, Marilyn asked him to say goodbye to John and Robert Kennedy for her. Lawford should at the very least have sent someone over to check up on her.
else was in the Brentwood house.Marilyn's housekeeper was so alarmed by the actress' dark mood that very day that she sent for Monroe's psychiatrist. He in turn was sufficiently concerned that he asked the housekeeper to stay overnight to keep an eye on the troubled star. Nobody
I don't think Marilyn was drunk that night...and I think Jackie gave JFK an ultimatum...That is all part of the coverup.That intoxicated performance of "Happy Birthday" is supposedly what led JFK to dump her. It's very sad. However, I do not believe she was murdered.
Marilyn put herself in the crosshairs by singing Happy Birthday to JFK at Madison Square Garden.
Bobby may have been at he house that last day.
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 7:33:46 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:Eventually, the police showed up. According to May Pang:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 3:38:29 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 8:14:02 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 3:03:22 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 2:47:10 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 10:05:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 11:20:41 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 8:34:04 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 6:46:50 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 3:56:17 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:23:59 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:00:55 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:24:16 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:28:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture.
girlfriend] Patti decided to leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts ofThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's
is to blame for everything." We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman Polansk
the door!" Mintz was outside at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through
brief stop, Lennon observed sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's
was untrue?It is valuable that we have May's recollections. At the same time, however, we must acknowledge that her job was to be Yoko's mini-me.Yes, before she and John left for Los Angeles, May mostly carried out Ono's instructions.
However, I don't think May toned down her recollections in Loving John and in interviews out of deference to Yoko. Otherwise, why would Yoko have sent Mintz out to claim he had documentary proof that *everything in her book*
Why do you say those things about me, Elliot? You know it's all true!" Mintz responded with, "Yes, but you know Yoko doesn't want you talking about it."Also, May gave a talk and took questions at some sort of Beatlesfest in the 1980s. Mintz also appeared -- and denied May's claims. Later, some of the Beatles fans met at a nearby bar -- as did May and Mintz. May demanded, "
O'Neil).I wonder what it was that inspired that rant. Did Lennon sense that Polanski was -- as Sharon Tate herself eventually described him in private -- a "little creep"?So, in private, Mintz admitted that what he was giving to the public was bullshit. Hey, he could get a job at Fox News!I have to wonder if John's Polanski rant was a portent that he too might become a victim of the 'Rosemary's Baby Curse'...
https://societyofrock.com/is-john-lennon-a-victim-of-the-rosemarys-baby-curse/
Polanski was talented and successful, but Tate was way out of his league looks-wise. She was also much more psychologically normal. Polanski subjected Tate to disgusting and degrading things (some of which come up in Chaos by Tom
his failure to go to her place and obtain help for her. This was a likely factor in Lawford's own long, slow downward spiral.To add another odd irony, Sharon and Roman were said to have had dinner with Bobby Kennedy shortly before his assassination...Sharon and Roman also spent a good deal of time with Frank Sinatra and Mia Farrow. I suspect that, if Sinatra knew the sort of twisted stuff Roman had been subjecting Sharon to, he'd have kicked Roman's ass.
(Sinatra instructed a waiter to punch Dominick Dunne in the head once, because he knew Dunne was using his wealthy wife Ellen Griffin Dunne, as a "beard.")Good points...
RFK, however, was assassinated....another terrible Murder Most Foul...
So John was living in a house very possibly full of Kennedy/Monroe ghosts, not all that far from where the Tate-LaBianca' murders took place (one of them was.a Rosemary) and he's throwing a fit about Roman Polanski...
Makes sense to me...
PamelaYeah. And I just remembered that Peter Lawford had called Marilyn to invite her to a party at his place on the night she died. He was concerned by how drugged she sounded. When he learned that she had died, he was consumed with guilt at
relationship was enough to send her over the edge.I think the standard interpretation (likely suicide, with JFK's break-up with her as the trigger) of Marilyn Monroe's death is true. She was so shaky emotionally and on a disturbing overabundance of prescription drugs that the end of thatWell, that's what he said...kind of convenient...Yes. Marilyn thought Peter was her fried. She had a number of Kennedy connections when she died...If I recall correctly, as her phone call with Lawford approached its end, Marilyn asked him to say goodbye to John and Robert Kennedy for her. Lawford should at the very least have sent someone over to check up on her.
Nobody else was in the Brentwood house.Marilyn's housekeeper was so alarmed by the actress' dark mood that very day that she sent for Monroe's psychiatrist. He in turn was sufficiently concerned that he asked the housekeeper to stay overnight to keep an eye on the troubled star.
I don't think Marilyn was drunk that night...and I think Jackie gave JFK an ultimatum...That is all part of the coverup.That intoxicated performance of "Happy Birthday" is supposedly what led JFK to dump her. It's very sad. However, I do not believe she was murdered.
Marilyn put herself in the crosshairs by singing Happy Birthday to JFK at Madison Square Garden.
Bobby may have been at he house that last day.
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 3:43:15 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:Eventually, the police showed up. According to May Pang:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 7:33:46 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 3:38:29 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 8:14:02 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 3:03:22 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 2:47:10 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 10:05:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 11:20:41 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 8:34:04 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 6:46:50 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 3:56:17 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:23:59 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:00:55 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:24:16 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:28:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture.
girlfriend] Patti decided to leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts ofThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse's
Polansk is to blame for everything." We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman
the door!" Mintz was outside at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes through
brief stop, Lennon observed sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's
book* was untrue?It is valuable that we have May's recollections. At the same time, however, we must acknowledge that her job was to be Yoko's mini-me.Yes, before she and John left for Los Angeles, May mostly carried out Ono's instructions.
However, I don't think May toned down her recollections in Loving John and in interviews out of deference to Yoko. Otherwise, why would Yoko have sent Mintz out to claim he had documentary proof that *everything in her
Why do you say those things about me, Elliot? You know it's all true!" Mintz responded with, "Yes, but you know Yoko doesn't want you talking about it."Also, May gave a talk and took questions at some sort of Beatlesfest in the 1980s. Mintz also appeared -- and denied May's claims. Later, some of the Beatles fans met at a nearby bar -- as did May and Mintz. May demanded, "
Tom O'Neil).I wonder what it was that inspired that rant. Did Lennon sense that Polanski was -- as Sharon Tate herself eventually described him in private -- a "little creep"?So, in private, Mintz admitted that what he was giving to the public was bullshit. Hey, he could get a job at Fox News!I have to wonder if John's Polanski rant was a portent that he too might become a victim of the 'Rosemary's Baby Curse'...
https://societyofrock.com/is-john-lennon-a-victim-of-the-rosemarys-baby-curse/
Polanski was talented and successful, but Tate was way out of his league looks-wise. She was also much more psychologically normal. Polanski subjected Tate to disgusting and degrading things (some of which come up in Chaos by
his failure to go to her place and obtain help for her. This was a likely factor in Lawford's own long, slow downward spiral.To add another odd irony, Sharon and Roman were said to have had dinner with Bobby Kennedy shortly before his assassination...Sharon and Roman also spent a good deal of time with Frank Sinatra and Mia Farrow. I suspect that, if Sinatra knew the sort of twisted stuff Roman had been subjecting Sharon to, he'd have kicked Roman's ass.
(Sinatra instructed a waiter to punch Dominick Dunne in the head once, because he knew Dunne was using his wealthy wife Ellen Griffin Dunne, as a "beard.")Good points...
RFK, however, was assassinated....another terrible Murder Most Foul...
So John was living in a house very possibly full of Kennedy/Monroe ghosts, not all that far from where the Tate-LaBianca' murders took place (one of them was.a Rosemary) and he's throwing a fit about Roman Polanski...
Makes sense to me...
PamelaYeah. And I just remembered that Peter Lawford had called Marilyn to invite her to a party at his place on the night she died. He was concerned by how drugged she sounded. When he learned that she had died, he was consumed with guilt at
relationship was enough to send her over the edge.I think the standard interpretation (likely suicide, with JFK's break-up with her as the trigger) of Marilyn Monroe's death is true. She was so shaky emotionally and on a disturbing overabundance of prescription drugs that the end of thatWell, that's what he said...kind of convenient...Yes. Marilyn thought Peter was her fried. She had a number of Kennedy connections when she died...If I recall correctly, as her phone call with Lawford approached its end, Marilyn asked him to say goodbye to John and Robert Kennedy for her. Lawford should at the very least have sent someone over to check up on her.
Nobody else was in the Brentwood house.Marilyn's housekeeper was so alarmed by the actress' dark mood that very day that she sent for Monroe's psychiatrist. He in turn was sufficiently concerned that he asked the housekeeper to stay overnight to keep an eye on the troubled star.
Your opinion. You are entitled. I don't agree.It was the prescription meds that did her in. She passed out while attempting to speak to a telephone operator.I don't think Marilyn was drunk that night...and I think Jackie gave JFK an ultimatum...That is all part of the coverup.That intoxicated performance of "Happy Birthday" is supposedly what led JFK to dump her. It's very sad. However, I do not believe she was murdered.
Marilyn put herself in the crosshairs by singing Happy Birthday to JFK at Madison Square Garden.
Bobby may have been at he house that last day.
Do you have the Reelz channel, Pamela? There's a great episode on Monroe's death in their "Autopsy: The Last Hours of..." series.
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 6:39:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:Eventually, the police showed up. According to May Pang:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 3:43:15 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 7:33:46 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 3:38:29 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 8:14:02 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 3:03:22 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 2:47:10 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 10:05:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 11:20:41 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 8:34:04 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 6:46:50 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 3:56:17 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:23:59 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:00:55 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:24:16 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:28:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing furniture.
s girlfriend] Patti decided to leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equal parts ofThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [Jesse'
Polansk is to blame for everything." We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman
through the door!" Mintz was outside at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes
brief stop, Lennon observed sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz's
book* was untrue?It is valuable that we have May's recollections. At the same time, however, we must acknowledge that her job was to be Yoko's mini-me.Yes, before she and John left for Los Angeles, May mostly carried out Ono's instructions.
However, I don't think May toned down her recollections in Loving John and in interviews out of deference to Yoko. Otherwise, why would Yoko have sent Mintz out to claim he had documentary proof that *everything in her
"Why do you say those things about me, Elliot? You know it's all true!" Mintz responded with, "Yes, but you know Yoko doesn't want you talking about it."Also, May gave a talk and took questions at some sort of Beatlesfest in the 1980s. Mintz also appeared -- and denied May's claims. Later, some of the Beatles fans met at a nearby bar -- as did May and Mintz. May demanded,
Tom O'Neil).I wonder what it was that inspired that rant. Did Lennon sense that Polanski was -- as Sharon Tate herself eventually described him in private -- a "little creep"?So, in private, Mintz admitted that what he was giving to the public was bullshit. Hey, he could get a job at Fox News!I have to wonder if John's Polanski rant was a portent that he too might become a victim of the 'Rosemary's Baby Curse'...
https://societyofrock.com/is-john-lennon-a-victim-of-the-rosemarys-baby-curse/
Polanski was talented and successful, but Tate was way out of his league looks-wise. She was also much more psychologically normal. Polanski subjected Tate to disgusting and degrading things (some of which come up in Chaos by
at his failure to go to her place and obtain help for her. This was a likely factor in Lawford's own long, slow downward spiral.To add another odd irony, Sharon and Roman were said to have had dinner with Bobby Kennedy shortly before his assassination...Sharon and Roman also spent a good deal of time with Frank Sinatra and Mia Farrow. I suspect that, if Sinatra knew the sort of twisted stuff Roman had been subjecting Sharon to, he'd have kicked Roman's ass.
(Sinatra instructed a waiter to punch Dominick Dunne in the head once, because he knew Dunne was using his wealthy wife Ellen Griffin Dunne, as a "beard.")Good points...
RFK, however, was assassinated....another terrible Murder Most Foul...
So John was living in a house very possibly full of Kennedy/Monroe ghosts, not all that far from where the Tate-LaBianca' murders took place (one of them was.a Rosemary) and he's throwing a fit about Roman Polanski...
Makes sense to me...
PamelaYeah. And I just remembered that Peter Lawford had called Marilyn to invite her to a party at his place on the night she died. He was concerned by how drugged she sounded. When he learned that she had died, he was consumed with guilt
relationship was enough to send her over the edge.I think the standard interpretation (likely suicide, with JFK's break-up with her as the trigger) of Marilyn Monroe's death is true. She was so shaky emotionally and on a disturbing overabundance of prescription drugs that the end of thatWell, that's what he said...kind of convenient...Yes. Marilyn thought Peter was her fried. She had a number of Kennedy connections when she died...If I recall correctly, as her phone call with Lawford approached its end, Marilyn asked him to say goodbye to John and Robert Kennedy for her. Lawford should at the very least have sent someone over to check up on her.
Nobody else was in the Brentwood house.Marilyn's housekeeper was so alarmed by the actress' dark mood that very day that she sent for Monroe's psychiatrist. He in turn was sufficiently concerned that he asked the housekeeper to stay overnight to keep an eye on the troubled star.
And Noguchi later changed his position regarding Marilyn's death... https://www.upi.com/Archives/1985/10/31/Noguchi-says-Monroe-case-should-be-reopened/5453499582800/It was the prescription meds that did her in. She passed out while attempting to speak to a telephone operator.I don't think Marilyn was drunk that night...and I think Jackie gave JFK an ultimatum...That is all part of the coverup.That intoxicated performance of "Happy Birthday" is supposedly what led JFK to dump her. It's very sad. However, I do not believe she was murdered.
Marilyn put herself in the crosshairs by singing Happy Birthday to JFK at Madison Square Garden.
Bobby may have been at he house that last day.
Do you have the Reelz channel, Pamela? There's a great episode on Monroe's death in their "Autopsy: The Last Hours of..." series.Your opinion. You are entitled. I don't agree.
I haven't watched that show, but I have read Noguchi's book...I think he leaves some things out...
https://www.amazon.com/Coroner-Noguchi/dp/0671624938
On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 8:21:20 AM UTC-5, Pamela Brown wrote:furniture. Eventually, the police showed up. According to May Pang:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 6:39:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 3:43:15 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 7:33:46 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 3:38:29 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 8:14:02 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 3:03:22 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 2:47:10 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 10:05:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 11:20:41 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 8:34:04 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 6:46:50 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 3:56:17 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:23:59 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:00:55 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:24:16 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:28:05 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing
Jesse's girlfriend] Patti decided to leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equalThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [
Polansk is to blame for everything." We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman
through the door!" Mintz was outside at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes
s brief stop, Lennon observed sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about Mintz'
book* was untrue?It is valuable that we have May's recollections. At the same time, however, we must acknowledge that her job was to be Yoko's mini-me.Yes, before she and John left for Los Angeles, May mostly carried out Ono's instructions.
However, I don't think May toned down her recollections in Loving John and in interviews out of deference to Yoko. Otherwise, why would Yoko have sent Mintz out to claim he had documentary proof that *everything in her
demanded, "Why do you say those things about me, Elliot? You know it's all true!" Mintz responded with, "Yes, but you know Yoko doesn't want you talking about it."Also, May gave a talk and took questions at some sort of Beatlesfest in the 1980s. Mintz also appeared -- and denied May's claims. Later, some of the Beatles fans met at a nearby bar -- as did May and Mintz. May
by Tom O'Neil).I wonder what it was that inspired that rant. Did Lennon sense that Polanski was -- as Sharon Tate herself eventually described him in private -- a "little creep"?So, in private, Mintz admitted that what he was giving to the public was bullshit. Hey, he could get a job at Fox News!I have to wonder if John's Polanski rant was a portent that he too might become a victim of the 'Rosemary's Baby Curse'...
https://societyofrock.com/is-john-lennon-a-victim-of-the-rosemarys-baby-curse/
Polanski was talented and successful, but Tate was way out of his league looks-wise. She was also much more psychologically normal. Polanski subjected Tate to disgusting and degrading things (some of which come up in Chaos
guilt at his failure to go to her place and obtain help for her. This was a likely factor in Lawford's own long, slow downward spiral.To add another odd irony, Sharon and Roman were said to have had dinner with Bobby Kennedy shortly before his assassination...Sharon and Roman also spent a good deal of time with Frank Sinatra and Mia Farrow. I suspect that, if Sinatra knew the sort of twisted stuff Roman had been subjecting Sharon to, he'd have kicked Roman's ass.
(Sinatra instructed a waiter to punch Dominick Dunne in the head once, because he knew Dunne was using his wealthy wife Ellen Griffin Dunne, as a "beard.")Good points...
RFK, however, was assassinated....another terrible Murder Most Foul...
So John was living in a house very possibly full of Kennedy/Monroe ghosts, not all that far from where the Tate-LaBianca' murders took place (one of them was.a Rosemary) and he's throwing a fit about Roman Polanski...
Makes sense to me...
PamelaYeah. And I just remembered that Peter Lawford had called Marilyn to invite her to a party at his place on the night she died. He was concerned by how drugged she sounded. When he learned that she had died, he was consumed with
relationship was enough to send her over the edge.I think the standard interpretation (likely suicide, with JFK's break-up with her as the trigger) of Marilyn Monroe's death is true. She was so shaky emotionally and on a disturbing overabundance of prescription drugs that the end of thatWell, that's what he said...kind of convenient...Yes. Marilyn thought Peter was her fried. She had a number of Kennedy connections when she died...If I recall correctly, as her phone call with Lawford approached its end, Marilyn asked him to say goodbye to John and Robert Kennedy for her. Lawford should at the very least have sent someone over to check up on her.
Nobody else was in the Brentwood house.Marilyn's housekeeper was so alarmed by the actress' dark mood that very day that she sent for Monroe's psychiatrist. He in turn was sufficiently concerned that he asked the housekeeper to stay overnight to keep an eye on the troubled star.
It was the prescription meds that did her in. She passed out while attempting to speak to a telephone operator.I don't think Marilyn was drunk that night...and I think Jackie gave JFK an ultimatum...That is all part of the coverup.That intoxicated performance of "Happy Birthday" is supposedly what led JFK to dump her. It's very sad. However, I do not believe she was murdered.
Marilyn put herself in the crosshairs by singing Happy Birthday to JFK at Madison Square Garden.
Bobby may have been at he house that last day.
And Noguchi later changed his position regarding Marilyn's death... https://www.upi.com/Archives/1985/10/31/Noguchi-says-Monroe-case-should-be-reopened/5453499582800/Do you have the Reelz channel, Pamela? There's a great episode on Monroe's death in their "Autopsy: The Last Hours of..." series.Your opinion. You are entitled. I don't agree.
I haven't watched that show, but I have read Noguchi's book...I think he leaves some things out...
https://www.amazon.com/Coroner-Noguchi/dp/0671624938
On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 6:24:55 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:furniture. Eventually, the police showed up. According to May Pang:
On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 8:21:20 AM UTC-5, Pamela Brown wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 6:39:26 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
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Upon returning to his (borrowed from attorney Harold Seider) apartment on the evening of the Kotex Incident, Lennon went into a rampage, knocking Jesse Ed Davis uconscious with a liquor bottle and smashing
Jesse's girlfriend] Patti decided to leave soon afterward, taking their silent friend with them; I walked them to their car. As I stood on the street I heard John scream, "I hate Roman Polanski. He's no fuckin' good!" His voice was filled with equalThe police did not have a search warrant, yet they took a careful look around, probably for drugs. Then they told us not to make any more noise and left. Their visit had a sobering effect on Jesse, and he and [
Polansk is to blame for everything." We had met Roman Polanski at a few parties, but John had never expressed any anger towards him. I watched as he systematically began to demolish the room.I dashed back to the apartment. John was upstairs. Shaking with rage, he had attacked the four-poster bed and was doing his best to break loose one of its posts. "It's Roman Polanski's fault!" he screamed. "Roman
through the door!" Mintz was outside at the time; he heard John's scream and drove back to his house.[Snip of description of Lennon's smashing every object in the apartment.]
May says that she called Yoko for advice. Yoko told her to summon Elliot Mintz. When John heard the name Elliot, his fury increased: "Elliot! I don't want that Jew bastard in my house! I'll kill him if he comes
Mintz's brief stop, Lennon observed sarcastically: "He's a very brave man."Upon waking up in the morning, John was most saddened by his destruction of a Martin guitar: "This is the first time in all these years that I've destroyed something that belonged to me." On being told about
her book* was untrue?It is valuable that we have May's recollections. At the same time, however, we must acknowledge that her job was to be Yoko's mini-me.Yes, before she and John left for Los Angeles, May mostly carried out Ono's instructions.
However, I don't think May toned down her recollections in Loving John and in interviews out of deference to Yoko. Otherwise, why would Yoko have sent Mintz out to claim he had documentary proof that *everything in
demanded, "Why do you say those things about me, Elliot? You know it's all true!" Mintz responded with, "Yes, but you know Yoko doesn't want you talking about it."Also, May gave a talk and took questions at some sort of Beatlesfest in the 1980s. Mintz also appeared -- and denied May's claims. Later, some of the Beatles fans met at a nearby bar -- as did May and Mintz. May
by Tom O'Neil).I wonder what it was that inspired that rant. Did Lennon sense that Polanski was -- as Sharon Tate herself eventually described him in private -- a "little creep"?So, in private, Mintz admitted that what he was giving to the public was bullshit. Hey, he could get a job at Fox News!I have to wonder if John's Polanski rant was a portent that he too might become a victim of the 'Rosemary's Baby Curse'...
https://societyofrock.com/is-john-lennon-a-victim-of-the-rosemarys-baby-curse/
Polanski was talented and successful, but Tate was way out of his league looks-wise. She was also much more psychologically normal. Polanski subjected Tate to disgusting and degrading things (some of which come up in Chaos
guilt at his failure to go to her place and obtain help for her. This was a likely factor in Lawford's own long, slow downward spiral.To add another odd irony, Sharon and Roman were said to have had dinner with Bobby Kennedy shortly before his assassination...Sharon and Roman also spent a good deal of time with Frank Sinatra and Mia Farrow. I suspect that, if Sinatra knew the sort of twisted stuff Roman had been subjecting Sharon to, he'd have kicked Roman's ass.
(Sinatra instructed a waiter to punch Dominick Dunne in the head once, because he knew Dunne was using his wealthy wife Ellen Griffin Dunne, as a "beard.")Good points...
RFK, however, was assassinated....another terrible Murder Most Foul...
So John was living in a house very possibly full of Kennedy/Monroe ghosts, not all that far from where the Tate-LaBianca' murders took place (one of them was.a Rosemary) and he's throwing a fit about Roman Polanski...
Makes sense to me...
PamelaYeah. And I just remembered that Peter Lawford had called Marilyn to invite her to a party at his place on the night she died. He was concerned by how drugged she sounded. When he learned that she had died, he was consumed with
relationship was enough to send her over the edge.I think the standard interpretation (likely suicide, with JFK's break-up with her as the trigger) of Marilyn Monroe's death is true. She was so shaky emotionally and on a disturbing overabundance of prescription drugs that the end of thatWell, that's what he said...kind of convenient...Yes. Marilyn thought Peter was her fried. She had a number of Kennedy connections when she died...If I recall correctly, as her phone call with Lawford approached its end, Marilyn asked him to say goodbye to John and Robert Kennedy for her. Lawford should at the very least have sent someone over to check up on her.
star. Nobody else was in the Brentwood house.Marilyn's housekeeper was so alarmed by the actress' dark mood that very day that she sent for Monroe's psychiatrist. He in turn was sufficiently concerned that he asked the housekeeper to stay overnight to keep an eye on the troubled
she have called the star's psychiatrist and summon him to the home?It was the prescription meds that did her in. She passed out while attempting to speak to a telephone operator.I don't think Marilyn was drunk that night...and I think Jackie gave JFK an ultimatum...That is all part of the coverup.That intoxicated performance of "Happy Birthday" is supposedly what led JFK to dump her. It's very sad. However, I do not believe she was murdered.
Marilyn put herself in the crosshairs by singing Happy Birthday to JFK at Madison Square Garden.
Bobby may have been at he house that last day.
IMO, unaccounted-for bruises don't imply murder. A person as over-drugged on prescription meds and who regularly topped them off with hard liquor will stumble into objects.And Noguchi later changed his position regarding Marilyn's death... https://www.upi.com/Archives/1985/10/31/Noguchi-says-Monroe-case-should-be-reopened/5453499582800/Do you have the Reelz channel, Pamela? There's a great episode on Monroe's death in their "Autopsy: The Last Hours of..." series.Your opinion. You are entitled. I don't agree.
I haven't watched that show, but I have read Noguchi's book...I think he leaves some things out...
https://www.amazon.com/Coroner-Noguchi/dp/0671624938
Marilyn's housekeeper was there that night to keep an eye on the troubled actress. You'd have to postulate that the housekeeper was in on any conspiracy against Monroe. But if she were participating in some sinister scheme against Marilyn, why would
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