• Re: Piccolo Trumpet - Penny Lane (2/3)

    From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to RJKe...@yahoo.com on Wed Jan 25 14:20:57 2023
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    The January 23 date could be Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso (VIII.34), or alternately the Rhodes of V.16 (via Saints Clement and Agathangelos) where an enduring Phantom manifests. So this otherworldly Sign foretold from The Beatles' Hamburg
    era is another facet of the impending cataclysm; the temporal synchronization of the Brasilia copy-cat coup attempt with the Mercury solar conjunction of 7 January 2023 is potentially a late-stage signal the scenario outlined is nearing its inevitable
    fulfillment.

    The mysterious Miracle, which can only be perceived after the unsettling collective Life-Review of The Preparation, should first be witnessed from

    << 23 January 2023 11:15 am CET / 5:15 am EST / 2:15 am PST >>

    Cause aviendra bien stupende et mirande
    Bien peu apres la terre tremblera

    Something quite stupendous and miraculous will arrive
    Very shortly after the world will have trembled

    [I.46]
    The 15 January 2023 crash of the twin-engine ATR 72 aircraft into the Seti Gorge of Nepal, spinning out of control, going into a nosedive and breaking apart, with at least 68 aboard dead, has manifested as the Lyons event of various
    quatrains, which is a late-stage precursor to the now-imminent major cataclysm. The date corresponds with the feast for Saint Bonitus (623-706), who was made governor of Marseilles, and died in Lyons after a pilgrimage to Rome - the related quatrains
    appear to include I.72, II.83, III.79, VIII.34, IX.68, IX.69, IX.70, X.58, and X.88.

    Du tout Marseille des habitants changee
    Course et poursuite jusqu'aupres de Lyon

    Changed for all the inhabitants of Marseilles
    Flight and pursuit followed towards Lyons

    In I.72 Bonitus being appointed governor of Marseilles is suggested as in identifying fact; the word 'course' has been translated as 'flight' from Leoni's publication circa 1960, without intending to correlate with any airplane incident.
    Bonitus dying in Lyons is another factor establishing his feast day as fateful.

    The case in II.83 is more dubious, speaking of 'heavy traffic changed' at Lyons; the second portion seems to concern the Geneva catastrophe, with the Jura mountain range and 'Swiss drizzle,' with pillage by soldiers reminiscent of IX.68,
    where Lyons is invoked as the juncture of the Rhone and Saone rivers, where evil occurs. Line 3 of III.79 has the chain broken at the port of Marseilles. The mention of Lyons in VIII.34 is isolated, inferring its details are included elsewhere.

    Outre Lyon, Vien eux si grande grele

    Beyond Lyons, great hail upon them at Vienne

    The sequence in line 3 of IX.69 has the Lyons date preceding the Apocalyptic hail shortly following at Vienne: making 15 January Lyons via Saint Bonitus renders the 22 January date as Vienne via Saint Paschasius. The physical violence of
    the disaster appears linked with Vienne in line 3 of IX.70 -

    Ceux de Vienne seront trestous haches
    Those of Vienne will all be hacked apart

    The second half of X.58 features the Marseilles hint again:

    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Tenter Phossens au Ponant entretien

    Gaul to be shaken, to imperil the Bark
    Marseilles to be tried at the Western entreaty

    Gaul is now being presumed for 21 January 2023 via Saint Patroclus of Troyes; the Bark of Saint Peter is the Roman Catholic papacy. The Western entreaty implies some new effort to peacefully resolve the Russian invasion of Ukraine ongoing
    conflict, close to 15 January 2023.

    There seems to be a double prophecy in X.88, where the first half concerned the EgyptAir 990 crash of 31 October 1999, which also involved an aircraft broken in half (as 'Foot and Horse'), taking off from New York City yet destined to crash
    in the ocean nearby ('They will make an entry into the sea devastating all'), giving the correct time of day as 'the second watch.' Notice the phrasing of line 3 -

    Dedans le poil entrera de Marseille

    The word 'poil' should mean hair, or 'bristle' - 'Seti' (the name of the Nepalese Gorge) in Latin also transliterates into 'bristle': so the French seer has acknowledged the unfortunate ultimate destination of Seti Gorge for the flight on
    the 15 January 2023 Marseilles date.

    The final line of X.88 could regard the major cataclysm that shortly follows the crash into Seti Gorge -

    Pleurs, cris, et sang, onc nul temps si amer

    Tears, cries, and blood - never were times so bitter

    There is ambiguity whether the subject was still the plane disaster.

    *

    Trying to explain The Beatles' success as some evil aberration that had to involve some bargain with dark forces is a desperate and ignorant attempt to evade the true challenge posed by Jesus, which was to recognize the time of angelic
    visitation, and perceive what was being offered on a subliminal level, so that the Remembrance of Him could be the springboard to Salvation. As reiterated from Isaiah, merely seeing and hearing in the normal mode is an inadequate approach to attain the
    insights that would affect the required spiritual conversion.

    The Beatles returning from Hamburg received an unexpected reaction because the British crowds thought they were German, with the new sound developed from onstage performances. The screaming began later in Glasgow, but became the normal
    reaction at their concerts without any deliberate direction. From various interviews the group members conveyed a sense of hypocrisy in religious institutions, so that reprocessing the message of Christianity into a sound format could have been their
    test for society.

    The extraordinary popularity they enjoyed was met by McCartney-Lennon proclaiming they had discovered the 'formula' for writing hit songs, without elaborating that fans were likely to be experiencing transference, the subconscious messages
    inducing confusion between the story of Jesus, and the Foursome all attempting to retell it while projecting themselves as aspiring to be Christ-like. That is likely why there was no single 'Horseman' selected to represent Jesus riding into Jerusalem in
    the "Penny Lane" promotional film: all Four wanted to assume the Messianic role simultaneously, asserting their Faith collectively without self-explanatory fanfare.
    Numerous Lyons references could be applied to the recent plane crash in Nepal: IX.68 commences three consecutive related quatrains, as the first report of retrieved bodies was 68, with a 69th found in Seti River Monday evening, then the 70th
    at the crash site early Tuesday, before the final accounting was made to 72. There is an interesting transliteration in X.88 of 'poil' meaning 'bristle' (like hair) with Seti, which in Latin means 'bristle.'

    The 15 January 2023 Nepal plane crash being a Lyons event, as precursor for the cataclysm presumed for the 22 January 2023 Vienne date, skips over the 19 January 2023 case for Venus at the Nadir in Geneva. The 'Ulm' of VIII.34 being solved
    for the honoring of Blessed Henry Suso on 23 January is nearly conclusive, with a mention of Lyons preceding to reinforce the sequencing. About a week beyond Lyons is Vienne-Ulm. A new Rhodes date for V.16 would be 12 February 2023, for Venerable
    Meletios of Ypseni.

    The recent Juno Reign could still be the conditions for X.17, despite a subsequent Lilith Reign being terminated by the solar advance into Aquarius - a new Lilith Reign commences 21 January 2023 8:51 pm CET, which will end more than two weeks
    later when Vesta enters Aries 8 February 2023 5:44 am CET. No longer searching for the circumstances that have been previously observed (such as Corinth-Ephesus correlations from 2 November 2022 and 10 January 2023), the parameters have neatly narrowed,
    with some lines taken for real-world predictions rather than hints for the judicial astrology. So certain lines should be reapplied, with their placement in the jigsaw Time Puzzle becoming clearer towards the catastrophic onset.

    The New Moon occurs at 1 degree 32 minutes Aquarius 21 January 2023 9:53 pm CET, presenting the Sun and Moon together for the V.66 prelude to the 'glittering metals' incident.

    Venus at the Nadir for Geneva 22 January 2023 2:15 am CET has a chart with Pluto, the Sun and the Moon as a nearly equidistant grouping, without a definitively ominous appearance.

    A major transition occurs with the Venus-Saturn conjunct at 24 degrees 47 minutes Aquarius 22 January 2023 11:05 pm CET, since the celestial bodies become transposed: the next day, Saturn will reach the Nadir slightly ahead of Venus.

    Saturn at the Nadir for Geneva 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET is at the fulcrum point (24 degrees 48 minutes Aquarius) of an Inverted Grand Trine with conceptual points Fortune (25 degrees 36 minutes Libra) and the Vertex (21 degrees 58 minutes
    Gemini). This 'Balance' impression also appears to be the Apocalyptic Cup or Urn, tipping towards the left as the Midheaven is skewed, forming the Crest of a Pediment with Fortune and the Vertex. In this way Venus very near Saturn is both debased at the
    Nadir (a minute later at 2:16 am CET), and perceived as receiving the Saturnin Cup.

    The critical time would be -

    << 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET / 22 January 2023 8:15 pm EST / 5:15 pm PST >>

    The Grand Trine and Pediment together present a Kite configuration, tipping leftward at the top; the fateful observation with Venus at the Nadir 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET had the Sun-Lilith-Neptune Inverted Grand Trine tipped towards the
    right at the top. In the 23 January 2023 case, a cylindrical form overlaps the Grand Trine, however it is broken: Ascendant (12.5 degrees Scorpio) sextile Mercury (9 degrees 23 minutes Capricorn) is somewhat weak; Mercury trine the Node (9 degrees 2
    minutes Taurus) is strong; the Node is about six degrees from Ouranos (near 15 degrees Taurus), which is in a sextile aspect with Pallas (13 degrees 46 minutes Cancer); and Pallas is in a trine with the Ascendant - however the rectangular pattern being
    broken renders the form technically inconsequential.

    The 'Vesta sepulchral fire' phrasing from X.6 should regard its conjoining with Neptune 23 January 2023 8:11 pm CET - when Vesta and Neptune meet at 23 degrees 21 minutes Pisces, a clear rectangular form appears aligned horizontally in
    parallel with the Ecliptic: Fortune (7 degrees 37 minutes Leo) sextile Ceres (6 degrees 32 minutes Libra) trine the Vertex (in solar proximity at 5 degrees 7 minutes Aquarius), whose conceptual point is in a sextile aspect with the pairing of Juno-
    Jupiter (4.5 to 5 degrees Aries), which is roughly in a trine with the Part of Fortune to complete the rectangular form. The Moon and Saturn-Venus will then be slightly below the Descendant.

    This horizontal Box suggests the rectangles previously observed were leading towards this coffin-like manifestation coinciding with the Vesta-Neptune conjunct, rather than representing 'Cylindrical Vessels.' The chronology of IV.58 implies
    the 18 December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine as the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' and the Trinity concept being subverted for divine retribution via a particular Grand Trine was a hidden theme from V.18.

    Some January hagiological associations already made could be seen as valid in retrospect: 16 January as Lorraine via Saint Honoratus of Arles; the 19th as Lombardy via Saint Bassian - and Smyrna-Myrrh through Saint Germanicus for the Magi
    Gift Attack theme; the 21st as Gaul via Saint Patroclus; the 22nd as Vienne with Saint Paschasius; the 23rd as Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso.

    For 24 January, Saint Francis de Sales had a connection to Geneva.

    The Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 remains a mystery, possibly spotlighting Saint Paula for 26 January 2023 - born in Rome 347, and died in Bethlehem 404, she is the patroness of widows.

    Saint Thomas Aquinas with the 28 January feast could be inferred as a Toulouse date: he died 7 March 1274, but since that date fell within Lent the calendar was revised in 1969, using the 28 January 1369 date of his remains being placed in
    the Church of Jacobins, Toulouse; from 1789 to 1974 his remains were placed in the Basilique de Sant-Sernin, also in Toulouse, before being returned to the Church of Jacobins.

    The reference to Basil the Great in VI.78 has a potential tandem solution with V.83, the ecumenical rivalry with Saints John Chrysostom and Gregory the Theologian over which was greatest culminating in the 5 October 1084 dream of Saint John
    Mauropous whereby their spiritual solidarity was basis for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs instituted for 30 January, depicted by an iconic image with the three Church figures standing together, each reverently holding a Bible - 'the greatest at the
    table' recalled the divisive rivalry which had an esoteric solution. Because VI.78 presents the 30 January 2023 date as marking initial stages of a mass conversion, while V.83 has it instead as a confirmation point after three nights to warn of an
    unparalleled nation being subverted through fraud, the date is probably used as a dual-purpose aftermath checkpoint.

    Taking 12 February 2023 as the date when the Garabandal Miracle will first be witnessed leads to two timing theories: the only lunar conjunct that day is with the South Node (i.e., Tail of the Dragon) at 10:28 am CET; the placement of The
    Miracle was presumed for 13 May 2021 8:30 pm locally, coinciding with a Mercury lunar conjunct - if that evening timing is consistent, it suggests the 8:31 pm CET Sun-Vertex union, with Mars reaching Midheaven.

    *

    "When two greats saints meet,
    It is a humbling experience"
    The 23 January 2023 conjoining of Vesta and Neptune is their first union since their opposition during the 6 January 2021 Capitol insurrection.

    The lunar opposition-conjunction with the Vesta-Neptune opposition on 4 January 2021 was projected as the time for the enormous violence of X.61 at 'pike and fire'; also a schedule was developed demonstrating the long cycle for reigning of
    Saturn after its conjunction with Jupiter at the 2020 Winter Solstice until Mars entered a new sign on 6 January 2021, not realizing when calculated prior how closely that Mars Reign commencement would be synchronized with the arrival of the National
    Guard to quell the riot.

    Planetary reigning is an elusive concept, that tantalized the generation circa 1999 attempting to fathom X.72 while rejecting the requisite tools: 'Mars to reign beneficially, before and after' - but the in-between case, the Mars entry into
    Capricorn 8 September 2001, delayed by retrograde since the previous instance fell on Valentine's Day 2001, initiated the period for the 9-11 attacks (and the subsequent Mars progression coincided with passage of the defensive Patriot Act).

    Obviously if a corollary to the Vesta-Neptune opposition were sought, the 23 January 2023 timing for their union would be ideal.

    Also Saturn appears featured in a different role than the reigning for the two revolts of I.54, with a conceptual Grand Trine at the Geneva Nadir, seeming to provide the igniting spark that is immediately transferred to debase Venus following
    at the Nadir with the engulfing conflagration. The Saturnin Grand Trine is oriented in mirror-image mockery of the Venus at Nadir chart 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, considered the 'Under The Balance' reference from V.42, skewed Left instead of Right to
    about the same angle.

    Thus those who had been included 'Under The Balance' could mean the Republican House majority being decided at the equivalent time of 16 November 2022 6:47 pm EST - 'The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid - By those whom Eagal observed
    included while Under The Balance': there is no compliant interpretation involving celestial bodies positioned at the Nadir then beyond Venus, such as Mercury. It does not seem purely political, since the great fear resembles the cataclysmic terror, yet
    the extreme faction could attempt to essentially extort massive cuts to entitlement programs, presumably to support further massive tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers, using the occasion of the necessary raising of the debt limit to endorse national
    solvency in contrast to default status.

    In this sense the 19 January 2023 date for Lombardy via Saint Bassian coincides with a preliminary date for this debt limit conflict, where the Republican House might have no members relenting, while the Democrats attempt to hold strong, a
    tactic that the Speaker found untenable. Paying for national debts already incurred becomes a bargaining point for those lacking real concern for the fate of the global economy, since even publicly questioning this obligation can have serve financial
    repercussions.

    There is a House member who said his mother died during the 9-11 attacks, while she applied for a visa in 2003 declaring not having been in the US since 1999. A New Mexico case involves a candidate accused on contesting his landslide loss by
    arranging sniper attacks on the homes of officials who would not agree to overturn the results in his favor. For some winning is not the main thing but the only thing, and the thirst for power to abuse can only perhaps be quenched by a full-fledged
    authoritarian nightmare.

    The Beatles created an aesthetic dream that regressed into the remembrance of Christ's Ministry for the "Penny Lane" triumphal entry into Jerusalem phase, however a forward tangent simultaneously rendered it an afterlife experience, haunting
    the beloved childhood place recently cleansed by rain; the images for the single sleeve featured pictures from their four respective infancies, so it was including George and Ringo with John and Paul in the single concept. Proper sequencing for the
    Christian story would put the associated Sgt Pepper album after "Strawberry Fields Forever," and before "Penny Lane."
    It should not be forgotten that double A-sided single with "Penny Lane" only reached the number two spot in the charts, indicating a let-down in popularity. Dick Clark showed a group of teenagers the two promotional films, to lukewarm reaction.
    The young fans did not care much about McCartney's scooter accident leading to the moustache decision, their new personas appeared off-brand and unfamiliar. While George Martin thought "Strawberry Fields Forever" was a fantastic new direction, a sort of
    mini-symphonic creation, the at-times lethargically slowed vocal and avant-garde treatment was received as kind of a weird departure.

    Interrogating the composers towards their divulging their intentions overtly is something they would likely deliberately avoid. To do so with subliminal melodic phrases would be an admission this method of communication actually failed, requiring
    the composer to detail the note-syllable conversion, ostensibly since it was done so badly no one could ever hear it as such without having it explicitly explained. Someone else having figured out the process for themselves would probably not be
    convincing to those feeling only the original source could be trusted, rather than their own ears and intellect. A close analogy would be a magician determined to keep his tricks secret, although in this case the listener is typically unaware there even
    has been any sort of trick played upon the subconscious.

    In the horn and trumpet portions of "Penny Lane" three synonymous terms are cleverly suggested at various points: 'vendors,' 'merchants,' and 'money-changers.'

    Providing the verbal phrases that correspond with the musical performances should eliminate doubt through the self-confirming authenticity of the experience itself, however accomplishing that for each tune is a major undertaking, and bringing up
    each case to be ignorantly dismissed would not achieve cultural enlightenment.

    As for another misunderstood esoteric source, the French seer's illumination of Revelation could have us very near a cataclysm of unprecedented proportions.

    Saturnin Interval Curtailed By Venus At Ulm With Impending Vestal Union [23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST]

    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi hammer attack; the Seoul Halloween crowd crush; the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting; the
    Griner-Bout prisoner exchange; the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt; the Brazilian copycat insurrection synchronized with the Mercury solar conjunct as predicted; and the plane crash in
    Nepal into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated, with a Marseilles hint for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast.

    The 23 January 2023 date corresponds with Ulm of VIII.34 for Blessed Henry Suso, when Saturn will have a very brief post-lunar-conjunct interval, curtailed by Venus: this is a potential debasement scenario, with a Saturnin event possibly
    occurring prior to the Moon meeting Venus.

    For Geneva, using CET on 23 January 2023:

    10:24 am - Saturn lunar conjunct at 24 degrees 50 minutes Aquarius;

    10:33 am - Fortune sextile Venus at 25 degrees 22 minutes - at this point a rectangle is again evident, which for cataclysmic onset would esoterically be the Cup or Cylindrical Vessel Urn, however in the chart it is oriented at a downward angle,
    beneath the Venus-Moon-Saturn grouping.

    Provincial physical notions of a drinking vessel may not apply: simply having the formation significantly placed for Venus could plausibly be the ancient prophetic intention. The rectangular image is composed with the Sun (3 degrees 5 minutes
    Aquarius), sextile the East Point (2 degrees Aries), trine Lilith (1 degree 39 minutes Leo), sextile the Vertex (1 degree 25 minutes Libra), trine the Sun to complete the form.

    11:19 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 25 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius - the horrific explosive event should have already occurred before this aspect transpires, so that the Saturnins could have endured the worst (V.24).

    A horizontally-oriented rectangular formation appears when Vesta and Neptune conjoin at 8:11 pm, with different composition: Fortune (7 minutes 37 degrees Leo), sextile Ceres (6 minutes 32 degrees Libra), trine Vertex (5 minutes 7 degrees
    Aquarius), sextile Juno-Jupiter (4 to 4.5 degrees Aries), trine Fortune to complete the form. This should be the time of the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6, although not necessarily its igniting moment.

    Both of the Corinth-Ephesus lines could be interpreted as simultaneously activated, since the Moon will be perplexity with Saturn and Venus in Aquarius, while Neptune is approaching its union with Vesta in Pisces, the other astrological 'sea.'

    The critical time for the test of the curtailed Saturnin lunar interval theory is when Venus has its Fortune aspect -

    << 23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST / 1:33 am PST >>
    The 30 January 2023 date is likely an aftermath, given the context of V.83 and VI.78 for Basil the Great reclaimed through the Three Holy Hierarchs: the 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET Ouranos lunar conjunct could relate to the second part of VI.70,
    with the Moon 'surpassing the Heavens.'

    The critical time now seems to be the Neptune lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 8:43 am CET progressing towards the Vesta lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 9:42 am CET: during that interval of nearly an hour, Saturn will rise at the Ascendant (9:04 am
    CET), followed by Venus (9:11 am CET).

    This timing provides another Corinth-Ephesus in perplexity (III.3) opportunity, after the Neptune lunar conjunct, with the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6 possibly manifesting by its subsequent lunar union.

    There is an imperfect Rectangular Form when Venus is at the Ascendant: East Point (11 degrees 18 minutes Pisces), sextile Mercury (10 degrees 49 minutes Capricorn), trine the Vertex (16 degrees 44 minutes Virgo - this outlier distorts the pattern),
    sextile Pallas (13 degrees 11 minutes Cancer), trine the East Point to complete the form.

    More ideal Rectangular Forms appear around 5:30 am CET during this cycle, involving the Sun, Juno, Ceres and the Vertex - however Venus does not seem significantly engaged at that time of day.

    There is a brief reign for Venus 27 January 2023 3:33 am CET to 28 January 2023 11:35 pm CET; Venus reaches the Geneva Nadir as Queen 28 January 2023 2:20 am CET, with the Moon then between Chiron and Ouranos. Despite an oblong box-like
    configuration (with Ceres, East Point, Jupiter and Mars) and an inexact solar Grand Trine (using the weak Ceres-Mars trine line), it does not appear ominous compared to the 25 January 2023 9:11 am CET (3:11 am EST / 12:11 am PST) situation, because
    Saturn and Vesta are not effectively participating.

    There is a Mars solar trine coinciding with Venus at the Nadir 30 January 2023 2:20 am CET; Ceres appears to extend the trine into a Grand version, although it is about three degrees off their correspondence. A rectangular form is there, yet the
    Moon is beyond Ouranos headed for Mars, which is not indicated for this forecast. The most recent precursor that can be clearly established was the Nepal plane crash with the 15 January Lyons feast for Saint Bonitus synchronization. Taking Vienne for 22
    January and Ulm for the 23rd could provide insight into further events prior to the major world-changing double cataclysm, which still appears imminent.
    The prophetic conundrum of the Cup filled with Divine Fury being given to Venus as Mystery Babylon could be solved by acknowledging a protracted Solar Grand Trine with Mars and Ceres noticeable over several days in late January 2023.

    The Great Urn of X.50 appears to be Solar Grand Trine with Ceres and Mars that will be of sustained duration, like the instance circa 16 November 2022 - that sort of triangular Cup configuration should also be a potential Mobile Sign for I.54,
    rotating over time in the chart orientation.

    Thus despite its technical imperfection, the persistence of the Triangular Form throughout the time of the cataclysmic disruption is the relevant factor.

    The first establishing milestone for this Urn is the Ceres solar trine at 6 degrees 45 minutes (in Libra for Ceres, Aquarius for the Sun) 27 January 2023 around 1 am CET.

    The second foundational aspect is the Mars solar trine at 9 degrees 52 minutes (with Mars in Gemini) 30 January 2023 at 2:19 am CET; Ceres then will be at 6 degrees 53 minutes Libra.


    Lennon had forecast the break-up of the group years before it happened, explaining they simply could not keep the franchise going by thinking up new things
    Re: Lennon predicting the Beatles' breakup, I believe you, but can I see the quote?

    One such comment from John Lennon is accessible (without providing source or date, although likely late 1964) at -

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1980/12/14/the-lennon-legend/d3edf3e6-cfa5-405f-bf08-3880c853d509/

    "We're not going to fizzle out in half a day. But afterwards I'm not going to change into a tap-dancing musical. I'll just develop what I'm doing at the moment.

    This isn't show business.

    This is different from anything that anybody imagines.

    You don't go on from this.

    You do this, and then you finish."

    The other remark about not being able to continue after a certain point is more obscure. In the Fly On The Wall audio excerpt Lennon was overheard discussing how God is the gimmick in their music, an impression that was masterfully fostered through the
    recordings.

    George Martin scored "Yesterday" to McCartney's specifications, although disliking a certain note he perceived as groaning. Later Martin expressed disappointment that due to his being busy, Paul turned to Mike Leander instead for scoring "She's Leaving
    Home." Martin performed the middle instrumental for "In My Life" at half-speed while the group was on a break, but he knew what they wanted by that point.

    Saturnins To Herald Queen Venus With Solar Grand Trine Cup
    [27 January 2023 9:08 am CET / 3:08 am EST / 12:08 am PST]

    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi home invasion hammer attack (X.35, V.66); the Seoul Halloween crowd crush (X.28); the Colorado
    Springs nightclub shooting (as a Tavern at Lombardy via Saint Benignus); the 8 December Griner-Bout prisoner exchange (IV.58 etc); the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt (V.42 for 19 January
    2023 as Lombardy via Saint Bassian); the Great Mercury flowering of US lies in Brazil for their insurrection, overtaking the presidential palace before massive capture, the day after a Mercury solar conjunct (X.79, V.66); and the plane crash in Nepal
    into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated as 'Bristle,' with Lyons-Marseilles hints for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast (I.72, X.88).

    The Western entreaty of X.58 by Ukraine for tanks against the Russian invasion has very recently received the desired response expeditiously.

    The Great Urn of X.50 appears to be Solar Grand Trine with Ceres and Mars that will be of sustained duration, like the instance circa 16 November 2022 - that sort of triangular Cup configuration should also be a potential Mobile Sign for I.54, rotating
    over time in the chart orientation. Thus despite its technical imperfection, the persistence of the Triangular Form throughout the time of the cataclysmic disruption is the relevant factor.

    The first establishing milestone for this Urn is the Ceres solar trine at 6 degrees 45 minutes (in Libra for Ceres, Aquarius for the Sun) 27 January 2023 around 1 am CET.

    The second foundational aspect is the Mars solar trine at 9 degrees 52 minutes (with Mars in Gemini) 30 January 2023 at 2:19 am CET; Ceres then will be at 6 degrees 53 minutes Libra.

    So the Sun consummates its role in the Ceres-Mars Solar Grand Trine over a three-day interval.


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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Fri Jan 27 03:37:07 2023
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    This 'Cup-Withdrawn' impression of the Fury relenting, or celestial declaration of its having been administered, appeared visually in the animated charts around 11:07 am CET; the trine of the Ascendant with Lilith degraded around 11:23
    am CET, and the Lilith-Vertex sextile disintegrated before 11:30 am CET.

    The Venusian lunar conjunct on 23 January 2023 11:15 am CET in Garabandal should mark the time when the Miracle placed there esoterically on 31 May 2021 8:30 pm local time would become visible, if the purifying Warning event occurs from
    the Venusian-Nadir onset time in Geneva from 19 January 2023 2:12 am CET.

    The January 23 date could be Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso (VIII.34), or alternately the Rhodes of V.16 (via Saints Clement and Agathangelos) where an enduring Phantom manifests. So this otherworldly Sign foretold from The Beatles' Hamburg
    era is another facet of the impending cataclysm; the temporal synchronization of the Brasilia copy-cat coup attempt with the Mercury solar conjunction of 7 January 2023 is potentially a late-stage signal the scenario outlined is nearing its inevitable
    fulfillment.

    The mysterious Miracle, which can only be perceived after the unsettling collective Life-Review of The Preparation, should first be witnessed from

    << 23 January 2023 11:15 am CET / 5:15 am EST / 2:15 am PST >>

    Cause aviendra bien stupende et mirande
    Bien peu apres la terre tremblera

    Something quite stupendous and miraculous will arrive
    Very shortly after the world will have trembled

    [I.46]
    The 15 January 2023 crash of the twin-engine ATR 72 aircraft into the Seti Gorge of Nepal, spinning out of control, going into a nosedive and breaking apart, with at least 68 aboard dead, has manifested as the Lyons event of various
    quatrains, which is a late-stage precursor to the now-imminent major cataclysm. The date corresponds with the feast for Saint Bonitus (623-706), who was made governor of Marseilles, and died in Lyons after a pilgrimage to Rome - the related quatrains
    appear to include I.72, II.83, III.79, VIII.34, IX.68, IX.69, IX.70, X.58, and X.88.

    Du tout Marseille des habitants changee
    Course et poursuite jusqu'aupres de Lyon

    Changed for all the inhabitants of Marseilles
    Flight and pursuit followed towards Lyons

    In I.72 Bonitus being appointed governor of Marseilles is suggested as in identifying fact; the word 'course' has been translated as 'flight' from Leoni's publication circa 1960, without intending to correlate with any airplane incident.
    Bonitus dying in Lyons is another factor establishing his feast day as fateful.

    The case in II.83 is more dubious, speaking of 'heavy traffic changed' at Lyons; the second portion seems to concern the Geneva catastrophe, with the Jura mountain range and 'Swiss drizzle,' with pillage by soldiers reminiscent of IX.68,
    where Lyons is invoked as the juncture of the Rhone and Saone rivers, where evil occurs. Line 3 of III.79 has the chain broken at the port of Marseilles. The mention of Lyons in VIII.34 is isolated, inferring its details are included elsewhere.

    Outre Lyon, Vien eux si grande grele

    Beyond Lyons, great hail upon them at Vienne

    The sequence in line 3 of IX.69 has the Lyons date preceding the Apocalyptic hail shortly following at Vienne: making 15 January Lyons via Saint Bonitus renders the 22 January date as Vienne via Saint Paschasius. The physical violence of
    the disaster appears linked with Vienne in line 3 of IX.70 -

    Ceux de Vienne seront trestous haches
    Those of Vienne will all be hacked apart

    The second half of X.58 features the Marseilles hint again:

    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Tenter Phossens au Ponant entretien

    Gaul to be shaken, to imperil the Bark
    Marseilles to be tried at the Western entreaty

    Gaul is now being presumed for 21 January 2023 via Saint Patroclus of Troyes; the Bark of Saint Peter is the Roman Catholic papacy. The Western entreaty implies some new effort to peacefully resolve the Russian invasion of Ukraine ongoing
    conflict, close to 15 January 2023.

    There seems to be a double prophecy in X.88, where the first half concerned the EgyptAir 990 crash of 31 October 1999, which also involved an aircraft broken in half (as 'Foot and Horse'), taking off from New York City yet destined to
    crash in the ocean nearby ('They will make an entry into the sea devastating all'), giving the correct time of day as 'the second watch.' Notice the phrasing of line 3 -

    Dedans le poil entrera de Marseille

    The word 'poil' should mean hair, or 'bristle' - 'Seti' (the name of the Nepalese Gorge) in Latin also transliterates into 'bristle': so the French seer has acknowledged the unfortunate ultimate destination of Seti Gorge for the flight on
    the 15 January 2023 Marseilles date.

    The final line of X.88 could regard the major cataclysm that shortly follows the crash into Seti Gorge -

    Pleurs, cris, et sang, onc nul temps si amer

    Tears, cries, and blood - never were times so bitter

    There is ambiguity whether the subject was still the plane disaster.

    *

    Trying to explain The Beatles' success as some evil aberration that had to involve some bargain with dark forces is a desperate and ignorant attempt to evade the true challenge posed by Jesus, which was to recognize the time of angelic
    visitation, and perceive what was being offered on a subliminal level, so that the Remembrance of Him could be the springboard to Salvation. As reiterated from Isaiah, merely seeing and hearing in the normal mode is an inadequate approach to attain the
    insights that would affect the required spiritual conversion.

    The Beatles returning from Hamburg received an unexpected reaction because the British crowds thought they were German, with the new sound developed from onstage performances. The screaming began later in Glasgow, but became the normal
    reaction at their concerts without any deliberate direction. From various interviews the group members conveyed a sense of hypocrisy in religious institutions, so that reprocessing the message of Christianity into a sound format could have been their
    test for society.

    The extraordinary popularity they enjoyed was met by McCartney-Lennon proclaiming they had discovered the 'formula' for writing hit songs, without elaborating that fans were likely to be experiencing transference, the subconscious
    messages inducing confusion between the story of Jesus, and the Foursome all attempting to retell it while projecting themselves as aspiring to be Christ-like. That is likely why there was no single 'Horseman' selected to represent Jesus riding into
    Jerusalem in the "Penny Lane" promotional film: all Four wanted to assume the Messianic role simultaneously, asserting their Faith collectively without self-explanatory fanfare.
    Numerous Lyons references could be applied to the recent plane crash in Nepal: IX.68 commences three consecutive related quatrains, as the first report of retrieved bodies was 68, with a 69th found in Seti River Monday evening, then the
    70th at the crash site early Tuesday, before the final accounting was made to 72. There is an interesting transliteration in X.88 of 'poil' meaning 'bristle' (like hair) with Seti, which in Latin means 'bristle.'

    The 15 January 2023 Nepal plane crash being a Lyons event, as precursor for the cataclysm presumed for the 22 January 2023 Vienne date, skips over the 19 January 2023 case for Venus at the Nadir in Geneva. The 'Ulm' of VIII.34 being solved
    for the honoring of Blessed Henry Suso on 23 January is nearly conclusive, with a mention of Lyons preceding to reinforce the sequencing. About a week beyond Lyons is Vienne-Ulm. A new Rhodes date for V.16 would be 12 February 2023, for Venerable
    Meletios of Ypseni.

    The recent Juno Reign could still be the conditions for X.17, despite a subsequent Lilith Reign being terminated by the solar advance into Aquarius - a new Lilith Reign commences 21 January 2023 8:51 pm CET, which will end more than two
    weeks later when Vesta enters Aries 8 February 2023 5:44 am CET. No longer searching for the circumstances that have been previously observed (such as Corinth-Ephesus correlations from 2 November 2022 and 10 January 2023), the parameters have neatly
    narrowed, with some lines taken for real-world predictions rather than hints for the judicial astrology. So certain lines should be reapplied, with their placement in the jigsaw Time Puzzle becoming clearer towards the catastrophic onset.

    The New Moon occurs at 1 degree 32 minutes Aquarius 21 January 2023 9:53 pm CET, presenting the Sun and Moon together for the V.66 prelude to the 'glittering metals' incident.

    Venus at the Nadir for Geneva 22 January 2023 2:15 am CET has a chart with Pluto, the Sun and the Moon as a nearly equidistant grouping, without a definitively ominous appearance.

    A major transition occurs with the Venus-Saturn conjunct at 24 degrees 47 minutes Aquarius 22 January 2023 11:05 pm CET, since the celestial bodies become transposed: the next day, Saturn will reach the Nadir slightly ahead of Venus.

    Saturn at the Nadir for Geneva 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET is at the fulcrum point (24 degrees 48 minutes Aquarius) of an Inverted Grand Trine with conceptual points Fortune (25 degrees 36 minutes Libra) and the Vertex (21 degrees 58
    minutes Gemini). This 'Balance' impression also appears to be the Apocalyptic Cup or Urn, tipping towards the left as the Midheaven is skewed, forming the Crest of a Pediment with Fortune and the Vertex. In this way Venus very near Saturn is both debased
    at the Nadir (a minute later at 2:16 am CET), and perceived as receiving the Saturnin Cup.

    The critical time would be -

    << 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET / 22 January 2023 8:15 pm EST / 5:15 pm PST >>

    The Grand Trine and Pediment together present a Kite configuration, tipping leftward at the top; the fateful observation with Venus at the Nadir 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET had the Sun-Lilith-Neptune Inverted Grand Trine tipped towards
    the right at the top. In the 23 January 2023 case, a cylindrical form overlaps the Grand Trine, however it is broken: Ascendant (12.5 degrees Scorpio) sextile Mercury (9 degrees 23 minutes Capricorn) is somewhat weak; Mercury trine the Node (9 degrees 2
    minutes Taurus) is strong; the Node is about six degrees from Ouranos (near 15 degrees Taurus), which is in a sextile aspect with Pallas (13 degrees 46 minutes Cancer); and Pallas is in a trine with the Ascendant - however the rectangular pattern being
    broken renders the form technically inconsequential.

    The 'Vesta sepulchral fire' phrasing from X.6 should regard its conjoining with Neptune 23 January 2023 8:11 pm CET - when Vesta and Neptune meet at 23 degrees 21 minutes Pisces, a clear rectangular form appears aligned horizontally in
    parallel with the Ecliptic: Fortune (7 degrees 37 minutes Leo) sextile Ceres (6 degrees 32 minutes Libra) trine the Vertex (in solar proximity at 5 degrees 7 minutes Aquarius), whose conceptual point is in a sextile aspect with the pairing of Juno-
    Jupiter (4.5 to 5 degrees Aries), which is roughly in a trine with the Part of Fortune to complete the rectangular form. The Moon and Saturn-Venus will then be slightly below the Descendant.

    This horizontal Box suggests the rectangles previously observed were leading towards this coffin-like manifestation coinciding with the Vesta-Neptune conjunct, rather than representing 'Cylindrical Vessels.' The chronology of IV.58 implies
    the 18 December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine as the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' and the Trinity concept being subverted for divine retribution via a particular Grand Trine was a hidden theme from V.18.

    Some January hagiological associations already made could be seen as valid in retrospect: 16 January as Lorraine via Saint Honoratus of Arles; the 19th as Lombardy via Saint Bassian - and Smyrna-Myrrh through Saint Germanicus for the Magi
    Gift Attack theme; the 21st as Gaul via Saint Patroclus; the 22nd as Vienne with Saint Paschasius; the 23rd as Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso.

    For 24 January, Saint Francis de Sales had a connection to Geneva.

    The Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 remains a mystery, possibly spotlighting Saint Paula for 26 January 2023 - born in Rome 347, and died in Bethlehem 404, she is the patroness of widows.

    Saint Thomas Aquinas with the 28 January feast could be inferred as a Toulouse date: he died 7 March 1274, but since that date fell within Lent the calendar was revised in 1969, using the 28 January 1369 date of his remains being placed in
    the Church of Jacobins, Toulouse; from 1789 to 1974 his remains were placed in the Basilique de Sant-Sernin, also in Toulouse, before being returned to the Church of Jacobins.

    The reference to Basil the Great in VI.78 has a potential tandem solution with V.83, the ecumenical rivalry with Saints John Chrysostom and Gregory the Theologian over which was greatest culminating in the 5 October 1084 dream of Saint John
    Mauropous whereby their spiritual solidarity was basis for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs instituted for 30 January, depicted by an iconic image with the three Church figures standing together, each reverently holding a Bible - 'the greatest at the
    table' recalled the divisive rivalry which had an esoteric solution. Because VI.78 presents the 30 January 2023 date as marking initial stages of a mass conversion, while V.83 has it instead as a confirmation point after three nights to warn of an
    unparalleled nation being subverted through fraud, the date is probably used as a dual-purpose aftermath checkpoint.

    Taking 12 February 2023 as the date when the Garabandal Miracle will first be witnessed leads to two timing theories: the only lunar conjunct that day is with the South Node (i.e., Tail of the Dragon) at 10:28 am CET; the placement of The
    Miracle was presumed for 13 May 2021 8:30 pm locally, coinciding with a Mercury lunar conjunct - if that evening timing is consistent, it suggests the 8:31 pm CET Sun-Vertex union, with Mars reaching Midheaven.

    *

    "When two greats saints meet,
    It is a humbling experience"
    The 23 January 2023 conjoining of Vesta and Neptune is their first union since their opposition during the 6 January 2021 Capitol insurrection.

    The lunar opposition-conjunction with the Vesta-Neptune opposition on 4 January 2021 was projected as the time for the enormous violence of X.61 at 'pike and fire'; also a schedule was developed demonstrating the long cycle for reigning of
    Saturn after its conjunction with Jupiter at the 2020 Winter Solstice until Mars entered a new sign on 6 January 2021, not realizing when calculated prior how closely that Mars Reign commencement would be synchronized with the arrival of the National
    Guard to quell the riot.

    Planetary reigning is an elusive concept, that tantalized the generation circa 1999 attempting to fathom X.72 while rejecting the requisite tools: 'Mars to reign beneficially, before and after' - but the in-between case, the Mars entry into
    Capricorn 8 September 2001, delayed by retrograde since the previous instance fell on Valentine's Day 2001, initiated the period for the 9-11 attacks (and the subsequent Mars progression coincided with passage of the defensive Patriot Act).

    Obviously if a corollary to the Vesta-Neptune opposition were sought, the 23 January 2023 timing for their union would be ideal.

    Also Saturn appears featured in a different role than the reigning for the two revolts of I.54, with a conceptual Grand Trine at the Geneva Nadir, seeming to provide the igniting spark that is immediately transferred to debase Venus following
    at the Nadir with the engulfing conflagration. The Saturnin Grand Trine is oriented in mirror-image mockery of the Venus at Nadir chart 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, considered the 'Under The Balance' reference from V.42, skewed Left instead of Right to
    about the same angle.

    Thus those who had been included 'Under The Balance' could mean the Republican House majority being decided at the equivalent time of 16 November 2022 6:47 pm EST - 'The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid - By those whom Eagal
    observed included while Under The Balance': there is no compliant interpretation involving celestial bodies positioned at the Nadir then beyond Venus, such as Mercury. It does not seem purely political, since the great fear resembles the cataclysmic
    terror, yet the extreme faction could attempt to essentially extort massive cuts to entitlement programs, presumably to support further massive tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers, using the occasion of the necessary raising of the debt limit to
    endorse national solvency in contrast to default status.

    In this sense the 19 January 2023 date for Lombardy via Saint Bassian coincides with a preliminary date for this debt limit conflict, where the Republican House might have no members relenting, while the Democrats attempt to hold strong, a
    tactic that the Speaker found untenable. Paying for national debts already incurred becomes a bargaining point for those lacking real concern for the fate of the global economy, since even publicly questioning this obligation can have serve financial
    repercussions.

    There is a House member who said his mother died during the 9-11 attacks, while she applied for a visa in 2003 declaring not having been in the US since 1999. A New Mexico case involves a candidate accused on contesting his landslide loss by
    arranging sniper attacks on the homes of officials who would not agree to overturn the results in his favor. For some winning is not the main thing but the only thing, and the thirst for power to abuse can only perhaps be quenched by a full-fledged
    authoritarian nightmare.

    The Beatles created an aesthetic dream that regressed into the remembrance of Christ's Ministry for the "Penny Lane" triumphal entry into Jerusalem phase, however a forward tangent simultaneously rendered it an afterlife experience, haunting
    the beloved childhood place recently cleansed by rain; the images for the single sleeve featured pictures from their four respective infancies, so it was including George and Ringo with John and Paul in the single concept. Proper sequencing for the
    Christian story would put the associated Sgt Pepper album after "Strawberry Fields Forever," and before "Penny Lane."
    It should not be forgotten that double A-sided single with "Penny Lane" only reached the number two spot in the charts, indicating a let-down in popularity. Dick Clark showed a group of teenagers the two promotional films, to lukewarm reaction.
    The young fans did not care much about McCartney's scooter accident leading to the moustache decision, their new personas appeared off-brand and unfamiliar. While George Martin thought "Strawberry Fields Forever" was a fantastic new direction, a sort of
    mini-symphonic creation, the at-times lethargically slowed vocal and avant-garde treatment was received as kind of a weird departure.

    Interrogating the composers towards their divulging their intentions overtly is something they would likely deliberately avoid. To do so with subliminal melodic phrases would be an admission this method of communication actually failed,
    requiring the composer to detail the note-syllable conversion, ostensibly since it was done so badly no one could ever hear it as such without having it explicitly explained. Someone else having figured out the process for themselves would probably not
    be convincing to those feeling only the original source could be trusted, rather than their own ears and intellect. A close analogy would be a magician determined to keep his tricks secret, although in this case the listener is typically unaware there
    even has been any sort of trick played upon the subconscious.

    In the horn and trumpet portions of "Penny Lane" three synonymous terms are cleverly suggested at various points: 'vendors,' 'merchants,' and 'money-changers.'

    Providing the verbal phrases that correspond with the musical performances should eliminate doubt through the self-confirming authenticity of the experience itself, however accomplishing that for each tune is a major undertaking, and bringing
    up each case to be ignorantly dismissed would not achieve cultural enlightenment.

    As for another misunderstood esoteric source, the French seer's illumination of Revelation could have us very near a cataclysm of unprecedented proportions.

    Saturnin Interval Curtailed By Venus At Ulm With Impending Vestal Union [23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST]

    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi hammer attack; the Seoul Halloween crowd crush; the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting;
    the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange; the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt; the Brazilian copycat insurrection synchronized with the Mercury solar conjunct as predicted; and the plane crash
    in Nepal into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated, with a Marseilles hint for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast.

    The 23 January 2023 date corresponds with Ulm of VIII.34 for Blessed Henry Suso, when Saturn will have a very brief post-lunar-conjunct interval, curtailed by Venus: this is a potential debasement scenario, with a Saturnin event possibly
    occurring prior to the Moon meeting Venus.

    For Geneva, using CET on 23 January 2023:

    10:24 am - Saturn lunar conjunct at 24 degrees 50 minutes Aquarius;

    10:33 am - Fortune sextile Venus at 25 degrees 22 minutes - at this point a rectangle is again evident, which for cataclysmic onset would esoterically be the Cup or Cylindrical Vessel Urn, however in the chart it is oriented at a downward angle,
    beneath the Venus-Moon-Saturn grouping.

    Provincial physical notions of a drinking vessel may not apply: simply having the formation significantly placed for Venus could plausibly be the ancient prophetic intention. The rectangular image is composed with the Sun (3 degrees 5 minutes
    Aquarius), sextile the East Point (2 degrees Aries), trine Lilith (1 degree 39 minutes Leo), sextile the Vertex (1 degree 25 minutes Libra), trine the Sun to complete the form.

    11:19 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 25 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius - the horrific explosive event should have already occurred before this aspect transpires, so that the Saturnins could have endured the worst (V.24).

    A horizontally-oriented rectangular formation appears when Vesta and Neptune conjoin at 8:11 pm, with different composition: Fortune (7 minutes 37 degrees Leo), sextile Ceres (6 minutes 32 degrees Libra), trine Vertex (5 minutes 7 degrees
    Aquarius), sextile Juno-Jupiter (4 to 4.5 degrees Aries), trine Fortune to complete the form. This should be the time of the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6, although not necessarily its igniting moment.

    Both of the Corinth-Ephesus lines could be interpreted as simultaneously activated, since the Moon will be perplexity with Saturn and Venus in Aquarius, while Neptune is approaching its union with Vesta in Pisces, the other astrological 'sea.'

    The critical time for the test of the curtailed Saturnin lunar interval theory is when Venus has its Fortune aspect -

    << 23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST / 1:33 am PST >>
    The 30 January 2023 date is likely an aftermath, given the context of V.83 and VI.78 for Basil the Great reclaimed through the Three Holy Hierarchs: the 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET Ouranos lunar conjunct could relate to the second part of VI.70,
    with the Moon 'surpassing the Heavens.'

    The critical time now seems to be the Neptune lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 8:43 am CET progressing towards the Vesta lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 9:42 am CET: during that interval of nearly an hour, Saturn will rise at the Ascendant (9:04 am
    CET), followed by Venus (9:11 am CET).

    This timing provides another Corinth-Ephesus in perplexity (III.3) opportunity, after the Neptune lunar conjunct, with the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6 possibly manifesting by its subsequent lunar union.

    There is an imperfect Rectangular Form when Venus is at the Ascendant: East Point (11 degrees 18 minutes Pisces), sextile Mercury (10 degrees 49 minutes Capricorn), trine the Vertex (16 degrees 44 minutes Virgo - this outlier distorts the pattern)
    , sextile Pallas (13 degrees 11 minutes Cancer), trine the East Point to complete the form.

    More ideal Rectangular Forms appear around 5:30 am CET during this cycle, involving the Sun, Juno, Ceres and the Vertex - however Venus does not seem significantly engaged at that time of day.

    There is a brief reign for Venus 27 January 2023 3:33 am CET to 28 January 2023 11:35 pm CET; Venus reaches the Geneva Nadir as Queen 28 January 2023 2:20 am CET, with the Moon then between Chiron and Ouranos. Despite an oblong box-like
    configuration (with Ceres, East Point, Jupiter and Mars) and an inexact solar Grand Trine (using the weak Ceres-Mars trine line), it does not appear ominous compared to the 25 January 2023 9:11 am CET (3:11 am EST / 12:11 am PST) situation, because
    Saturn and Vesta are not effectively participating.

    There is a Mars solar trine coinciding with Venus at the Nadir 30 January 2023 2:20 am CET; Ceres appears to extend the trine into a Grand version, although it is about three degrees off their correspondence. A rectangular form is there, yet the
    Moon is beyond Ouranos headed for Mars, which is not indicated for this forecast. The most recent precursor that can be clearly established was the Nepal plane crash with the 15 January Lyons feast for Saint Bonitus synchronization. Taking Vienne for 22
    January and Ulm for the 23rd could provide insight into further events prior to the major world-changing double cataclysm, which still appears imminent.
    The prophetic conundrum of the Cup filled with Divine Fury being given to Venus as Mystery Babylon could be solved by acknowledging a protracted Solar Grand Trine with Mars and Ceres noticeable over several days in late January 2023.

    The Great Urn of X.50 appears to be Solar Grand Trine with Ceres and Mars that will be of sustained duration, like the instance circa 16 November 2022 - that sort of triangular Cup configuration should also be a potential Mobile Sign for I.54,
    rotating over time in the chart orientation.

    Thus despite its technical imperfection, the persistence of the Triangular Form throughout the time of the cataclysmic disruption is the relevant factor.

    The first establishing milestone for this Urn is the Ceres solar trine at 6 degrees 45 minutes (in Libra for Ceres, Aquarius for the Sun) 27 January 2023 around 1 am CET.

    The second foundational aspect is the Mars solar trine at 9 degrees 52 minutes (with Mars in Gemini) 30 January 2023 at 2:19 am CET; Ceres then will be at 6 degrees 53 minutes Libra.


    Lennon had forecast the break-up of the group years before it happened, explaining they simply could not keep the franchise going by thinking up new things
    Re: Lennon predicting the Beatles' breakup, I believe you, but can I see the quote?
    One such comment from John Lennon is accessible (without providing source or date, although likely late 1964) at -

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1980/12/14/the-lennon-legend/d3edf3e6-cfa5-405f-bf08-3880c853d509/

    "We're not going to fizzle out in half a day. But afterwards I'm not going to change into a tap-dancing musical. I'll just develop what I'm doing at the moment.

    This isn't show business.

    This is different from anything that anybody imagines.

    You don't go on from this.

    You do this, and then you finish."

    The other remark about not being able to continue after a certain point is more obscure. In the Fly On The Wall audio excerpt Lennon was overheard discussing how God is the gimmick in their music, an impression that was masterfully fostered through the
    recordings.

    George Martin scored "Yesterday" to McCartney's specifications, although disliking a certain note he perceived as groaning. Later Martin expressed disappointment that due to his being busy, Paul turned to Mike Leander instead for scoring "She's Leaving
    Home." Martin performed the middle instrumental for "In My Life" at half-speed while the group was on a break, but he knew what they wanted by that point.

    Saturnins To Herald Queen Venus With Solar Grand Trine Cup
    [27 January 2023 9:08 am CET / 3:08 am EST / 12:08 am PST]

    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi home invasion hammer attack (X.35, V.66); the Seoul Halloween crowd crush (X.28); the Colorado
    Springs nightclub shooting (as a Tavern at Lombardy via Saint Benignus); the 8 December Griner-Bout prisoner exchange (IV.58 etc); the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt (V.42 for 19 January
    2023 as Lombardy via Saint Bassian); the Great Mercury flowering of US lies in Brazil for their insurrection, overtaking the presidential palace before massive capture, the day after a Mercury solar conjunct (X.79, V.66); and the plane crash in Nepal
    into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated as 'Bristle,' with Lyons-Marseilles hints for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast (I.72, X.88).


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    This 'Cup-Withdrawn' impression of the Fury relenting, or celestial declaration of its having been administered, appeared visually in the animated charts around 11:07 am CET; the trine of the Ascendant with Lilith degraded around 11:23
    am CET, and the Lilith-Vertex sextile disintegrated before 11:30 am CET.

    The Venusian lunar conjunct on 23 January 2023 11:15 am CET in Garabandal should mark the time when the Miracle placed there esoterically on 31 May 2021 8:30 pm local time would become visible, if the purifying Warning event occurs from
    the Venusian-Nadir onset time in Geneva from 19 January 2023 2:12 am CET.

    The January 23 date could be Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso (VIII.34), or alternately the Rhodes of V.16 (via Saints Clement and Agathangelos) where an enduring Phantom manifests. So this otherworldly Sign foretold from The Beatles' Hamburg
    era is another facet of the impending cataclysm; the temporal synchronization of the Brasilia copy-cat coup attempt with the Mercury solar conjunction of 7 January 2023 is potentially a late-stage signal the scenario outlined is nearing its inevitable
    fulfillment.

    The mysterious Miracle, which can only be perceived after the unsettling collective Life-Review of The Preparation, should first be witnessed from

    << 23 January 2023 11:15 am CET / 5:15 am EST / 2:15 am PST >>

    Cause aviendra bien stupende et mirande
    Bien peu apres la terre tremblera

    Something quite stupendous and miraculous will arrive
    Very shortly after the world will have trembled

    [I.46]
    The 15 January 2023 crash of the twin-engine ATR 72 aircraft into the Seti Gorge of Nepal, spinning out of control, going into a nosedive and breaking apart, with at least 68 aboard dead, has manifested as the Lyons event of various
    quatrains, which is a late-stage precursor to the now-imminent major cataclysm. The date corresponds with the feast for Saint Bonitus (623-706), who was made governor of Marseilles, and died in Lyons after a pilgrimage to Rome - the related quatrains
    appear to include I.72, II.83, III.79, VIII.34, IX.68, IX.69, IX.70, X.58, and X.88.

    Du tout Marseille des habitants changee
    Course et poursuite jusqu'aupres de Lyon

    Changed for all the inhabitants of Marseilles
    Flight and pursuit followed towards Lyons

    In I.72 Bonitus being appointed governor of Marseilles is suggested as in identifying fact; the word 'course' has been translated as 'flight' from Leoni's publication circa 1960, without intending to correlate with any airplane incident.
    Bonitus dying in Lyons is another factor establishing his feast day as fateful.

    The case in II.83 is more dubious, speaking of 'heavy traffic changed' at Lyons; the second portion seems to concern the Geneva catastrophe, with the Jura mountain range and 'Swiss drizzle,' with pillage by soldiers reminiscent of IX.68,
    where Lyons is invoked as the juncture of the Rhone and Saone rivers, where evil occurs. Line 3 of III.79 has the chain broken at the port of Marseilles. The mention of Lyons in VIII.34 is isolated, inferring its details are included elsewhere.

    Outre Lyon, Vien eux si grande grele

    Beyond Lyons, great hail upon them at Vienne

    The sequence in line 3 of IX.69 has the Lyons date preceding the Apocalyptic hail shortly following at Vienne: making 15 January Lyons via Saint Bonitus renders the 22 January date as Vienne via Saint Paschasius. The physical violence of
    the disaster appears linked with Vienne in line 3 of IX.70 -

    Ceux de Vienne seront trestous haches
    Those of Vienne will all be hacked apart

    The second half of X.58 features the Marseilles hint again:

    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Tenter Phossens au Ponant entretien

    Gaul to be shaken, to imperil the Bark
    Marseilles to be tried at the Western entreaty

    Gaul is now being presumed for 21 January 2023 via Saint Patroclus of Troyes; the Bark of Saint Peter is the Roman Catholic papacy. The Western entreaty implies some new effort to peacefully resolve the Russian invasion of Ukraine ongoing
    conflict, close to 15 January 2023.

    There seems to be a double prophecy in X.88, where the first half concerned the EgyptAir 990 crash of 31 October 1999, which also involved an aircraft broken in half (as 'Foot and Horse'), taking off from New York City yet destined to
    crash in the ocean nearby ('They will make an entry into the sea devastating all'), giving the correct time of day as 'the second watch.' Notice the phrasing of line 3 -

    Dedans le poil entrera de Marseille

    The word 'poil' should mean hair, or 'bristle' - 'Seti' (the name of the Nepalese Gorge) in Latin also transliterates into 'bristle': so the French seer has acknowledged the unfortunate ultimate destination of Seti Gorge for the flight on
    the 15 January 2023 Marseilles date.

    The final line of X.88 could regard the major cataclysm that shortly follows the crash into Seti Gorge -

    Pleurs, cris, et sang, onc nul temps si amer

    Tears, cries, and blood - never were times so bitter

    There is ambiguity whether the subject was still the plane disaster.

    *

    Trying to explain The Beatles' success as some evil aberration that had to involve some bargain with dark forces is a desperate and ignorant attempt to evade the true challenge posed by Jesus, which was to recognize the time of angelic
    visitation, and perceive what was being offered on a subliminal level, so that the Remembrance of Him could be the springboard to Salvation. As reiterated from Isaiah, merely seeing and hearing in the normal mode is an inadequate approach to attain the
    insights that would affect the required spiritual conversion.

    The Beatles returning from Hamburg received an unexpected reaction because the British crowds thought they were German, with the new sound developed from onstage performances. The screaming began later in Glasgow, but became the normal
    reaction at their concerts without any deliberate direction. From various interviews the group members conveyed a sense of hypocrisy in religious institutions, so that reprocessing the message of Christianity into a sound format could have been their
    test for society.

    The extraordinary popularity they enjoyed was met by McCartney-Lennon proclaiming they had discovered the 'formula' for writing hit songs, without elaborating that fans were likely to be experiencing transference, the subconscious
    messages inducing confusion between the story of Jesus, and the Foursome all attempting to retell it while projecting themselves as aspiring to be Christ-like. That is likely why there was no single 'Horseman' selected to represent Jesus riding into
    Jerusalem in the "Penny Lane" promotional film: all Four wanted to assume the Messianic role simultaneously, asserting their Faith collectively without self-explanatory fanfare.
    Numerous Lyons references could be applied to the recent plane crash in Nepal: IX.68 commences three consecutive related quatrains, as the first report of retrieved bodies was 68, with a 69th found in Seti River Monday evening, then the
    70th at the crash site early Tuesday, before the final accounting was made to 72. There is an interesting transliteration in X.88 of 'poil' meaning 'bristle' (like hair) with Seti, which in Latin means 'bristle.'

    The 15 January 2023 Nepal plane crash being a Lyons event, as precursor for the cataclysm presumed for the 22 January 2023 Vienne date, skips over the 19 January 2023 case for Venus at the Nadir in Geneva. The 'Ulm' of VIII.34 being solved
    for the honoring of Blessed Henry Suso on 23 January is nearly conclusive, with a mention of Lyons preceding to reinforce the sequencing. About a week beyond Lyons is Vienne-Ulm. A new Rhodes date for V.16 would be 12 February 2023, for Venerable
    Meletios of Ypseni.

    The recent Juno Reign could still be the conditions for X.17, despite a subsequent Lilith Reign being terminated by the solar advance into Aquarius - a new Lilith Reign commences 21 January 2023 8:51 pm CET, which will end more than two
    weeks later when Vesta enters Aries 8 February 2023 5:44 am CET. No longer searching for the circumstances that have been previously observed (such as Corinth-Ephesus correlations from 2 November 2022 and 10 January 2023), the parameters have neatly
    narrowed, with some lines taken for real-world predictions rather than hints for the judicial astrology. So certain lines should be reapplied, with their placement in the jigsaw Time Puzzle becoming clearer towards the catastrophic onset.

    The New Moon occurs at 1 degree 32 minutes Aquarius 21 January 2023 9:53 pm CET, presenting the Sun and Moon together for the V.66 prelude to the 'glittering metals' incident.

    Venus at the Nadir for Geneva 22 January 2023 2:15 am CET has a chart with Pluto, the Sun and the Moon as a nearly equidistant grouping, without a definitively ominous appearance.

    A major transition occurs with the Venus-Saturn conjunct at 24 degrees 47 minutes Aquarius 22 January 2023 11:05 pm CET, since the celestial bodies become transposed: the next day, Saturn will reach the Nadir slightly ahead of Venus.

    Saturn at the Nadir for Geneva 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET is at the fulcrum point (24 degrees 48 minutes Aquarius) of an Inverted Grand Trine with conceptual points Fortune (25 degrees 36 minutes Libra) and the Vertex (21 degrees 58
    minutes Gemini). This 'Balance' impression also appears to be the Apocalyptic Cup or Urn, tipping towards the left as the Midheaven is skewed, forming the Crest of a Pediment with Fortune and the Vertex. In this way Venus very near Saturn is both debased
    at the Nadir (a minute later at 2:16 am CET), and perceived as receiving the Saturnin Cup.

    The critical time would be -

    << 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET / 22 January 2023 8:15 pm EST / 5:15 pm PST >>

    The Grand Trine and Pediment together present a Kite configuration, tipping leftward at the top; the fateful observation with Venus at the Nadir 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET had the Sun-Lilith-Neptune Inverted Grand Trine tipped towards
    the right at the top. In the 23 January 2023 case, a cylindrical form overlaps the Grand Trine, however it is broken: Ascendant (12.5 degrees Scorpio) sextile Mercury (9 degrees 23 minutes Capricorn) is somewhat weak; Mercury trine the Node (9 degrees 2
    minutes Taurus) is strong; the Node is about six degrees from Ouranos (near 15 degrees Taurus), which is in a sextile aspect with Pallas (13 degrees 46 minutes Cancer); and Pallas is in a trine with the Ascendant - however the rectangular pattern being
    broken renders the form technically inconsequential.

    The 'Vesta sepulchral fire' phrasing from X.6 should regard its conjoining with Neptune 23 January 2023 8:11 pm CET - when Vesta and Neptune meet at 23 degrees 21 minutes Pisces, a clear rectangular form appears aligned horizontally in
    parallel with the Ecliptic: Fortune (7 degrees 37 minutes Leo) sextile Ceres (6 degrees 32 minutes Libra) trine the Vertex (in solar proximity at 5 degrees 7 minutes Aquarius), whose conceptual point is in a sextile aspect with the pairing of Juno-
    Jupiter (4.5 to 5 degrees Aries), which is roughly in a trine with the Part of Fortune to complete the rectangular form. The Moon and Saturn-Venus will then be slightly below the Descendant.

    This horizontal Box suggests the rectangles previously observed were leading towards this coffin-like manifestation coinciding with the Vesta-Neptune conjunct, rather than representing 'Cylindrical Vessels.' The chronology of IV.58 implies
    the 18 December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine as the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' and the Trinity concept being subverted for divine retribution via a particular Grand Trine was a hidden theme from V.18.

    Some January hagiological associations already made could be seen as valid in retrospect: 16 January as Lorraine via Saint Honoratus of Arles; the 19th as Lombardy via Saint Bassian - and Smyrna-Myrrh through Saint Germanicus for the Magi
    Gift Attack theme; the 21st as Gaul via Saint Patroclus; the 22nd as Vienne with Saint Paschasius; the 23rd as Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso.

    For 24 January, Saint Francis de Sales had a connection to Geneva.

    The Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 remains a mystery, possibly spotlighting Saint Paula for 26 January 2023 - born in Rome 347, and died in Bethlehem 404, she is the patroness of widows.

    Saint Thomas Aquinas with the 28 January feast could be inferred as a Toulouse date: he died 7 March 1274, but since that date fell within Lent the calendar was revised in 1969, using the 28 January 1369 date of his remains being placed in
    the Church of Jacobins, Toulouse; from 1789 to 1974 his remains were placed in the Basilique de Sant-Sernin, also in Toulouse, before being returned to the Church of Jacobins.

    The reference to Basil the Great in VI.78 has a potential tandem solution with V.83, the ecumenical rivalry with Saints John Chrysostom and Gregory the Theologian over which was greatest culminating in the 5 October 1084 dream of Saint John
    Mauropous whereby their spiritual solidarity was basis for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs instituted for 30 January, depicted by an iconic image with the three Church figures standing together, each reverently holding a Bible - 'the greatest at the
    table' recalled the divisive rivalry which had an esoteric solution. Because VI.78 presents the 30 January 2023 date as marking initial stages of a mass conversion, while V.83 has it instead as a confirmation point after three nights to warn of an
    unparalleled nation being subverted through fraud, the date is probably used as a dual-purpose aftermath checkpoint.

    Taking 12 February 2023 as the date when the Garabandal Miracle will first be witnessed leads to two timing theories: the only lunar conjunct that day is with the South Node (i.e., Tail of the Dragon) at 10:28 am CET; the placement of The
    Miracle was presumed for 13 May 2021 8:30 pm locally, coinciding with a Mercury lunar conjunct - if that evening timing is consistent, it suggests the 8:31 pm CET Sun-Vertex union, with Mars reaching Midheaven.

    *

    "When two greats saints meet,
    It is a humbling experience"
    The 23 January 2023 conjoining of Vesta and Neptune is their first union since their opposition during the 6 January 2021 Capitol insurrection.

    The lunar opposition-conjunction with the Vesta-Neptune opposition on 4 January 2021 was projected as the time for the enormous violence of X.61 at 'pike and fire'; also a schedule was developed demonstrating the long cycle for reigning of
    Saturn after its conjunction with Jupiter at the 2020 Winter Solstice until Mars entered a new sign on 6 January 2021, not realizing when calculated prior how closely that Mars Reign commencement would be synchronized with the arrival of the National
    Guard to quell the riot.

    Planetary reigning is an elusive concept, that tantalized the generation circa 1999 attempting to fathom X.72 while rejecting the requisite tools: 'Mars to reign beneficially, before and after' - but the in-between case, the Mars entry into
    Capricorn 8 September 2001, delayed by retrograde since the previous instance fell on Valentine's Day 2001, initiated the period for the 9-11 attacks (and the subsequent Mars progression coincided with passage of the defensive Patriot Act).

    Obviously if a corollary to the Vesta-Neptune opposition were sought, the 23 January 2023 timing for their union would be ideal.

    Also Saturn appears featured in a different role than the reigning for the two revolts of I.54, with a conceptual Grand Trine at the Geneva Nadir, seeming to provide the igniting spark that is immediately transferred to debase Venus following
    at the Nadir with the engulfing conflagration. The Saturnin Grand Trine is oriented in mirror-image mockery of the Venus at Nadir chart 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, considered the 'Under The Balance' reference from V.42, skewed Left instead of Right to
    about the same angle.

    Thus those who had been included 'Under The Balance' could mean the Republican House majority being decided at the equivalent time of 16 November 2022 6:47 pm EST - 'The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid - By those whom Eagal
    observed included while Under The Balance': there is no compliant interpretation involving celestial bodies positioned at the Nadir then beyond Venus, such as Mercury. It does not seem purely political, since the great fear resembles the cataclysmic
    terror, yet the extreme faction could attempt to essentially extort massive cuts to entitlement programs, presumably to support further massive tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers, using the occasion of the necessary raising of the debt limit to
    endorse national solvency in contrast to default status.

    In this sense the 19 January 2023 date for Lombardy via Saint Bassian coincides with a preliminary date for this debt limit conflict, where the Republican House might have no members relenting, while the Democrats attempt to hold strong, a
    tactic that the Speaker found untenable. Paying for national debts already incurred becomes a bargaining point for those lacking real concern for the fate of the global economy, since even publicly questioning this obligation can have serve financial
    repercussions.

    There is a House member who said his mother died during the 9-11 attacks, while she applied for a visa in 2003 declaring not having been in the US since 1999. A New Mexico case involves a candidate accused on contesting his landslide loss by
    arranging sniper attacks on the homes of officials who would not agree to overturn the results in his favor. For some winning is not the main thing but the only thing, and the thirst for power to abuse can only perhaps be quenched by a full-fledged
    authoritarian nightmare.

    The Beatles created an aesthetic dream that regressed into the remembrance of Christ's Ministry for the "Penny Lane" triumphal entry into Jerusalem phase, however a forward tangent simultaneously rendered it an afterlife experience, haunting
    the beloved childhood place recently cleansed by rain; the images for the single sleeve featured pictures from their four respective infancies, so it was including George and Ringo with John and Paul in the single concept. Proper sequencing for the
    Christian story would put the associated Sgt Pepper album after "Strawberry Fields Forever," and before "Penny Lane."
    It should not be forgotten that double A-sided single with "Penny Lane" only reached the number two spot in the charts, indicating a let-down in popularity. Dick Clark showed a group of teenagers the two promotional films, to lukewarm reaction.
    The young fans did not care much about McCartney's scooter accident leading to the moustache decision, their new personas appeared off-brand and unfamiliar. While George Martin thought "Strawberry Fields Forever" was a fantastic new direction, a sort of
    mini-symphonic creation, the at-times lethargically slowed vocal and avant-garde treatment was received as kind of a weird departure.

    Interrogating the composers towards their divulging their intentions overtly is something they would likely deliberately avoid. To do so with subliminal melodic phrases would be an admission this method of communication actually failed,
    requiring the composer to detail the note-syllable conversion, ostensibly since it was done so badly no one could ever hear it as such without having it explicitly explained. Someone else having figured out the process for themselves would probably not
    be convincing to those feeling only the original source could be trusted, rather than their own ears and intellect. A close analogy would be a magician determined to keep his tricks secret, although in this case the listener is typically unaware there
    even has been any sort of trick played upon the subconscious.

    In the horn and trumpet portions of "Penny Lane" three synonymous terms are cleverly suggested at various points: 'vendors,' 'merchants,' and 'money-changers.'

    Providing the verbal phrases that correspond with the musical performances should eliminate doubt through the self-confirming authenticity of the experience itself, however accomplishing that for each tune is a major undertaking, and bringing
    up each case to be ignorantly dismissed would not achieve cultural enlightenment.

    As for another misunderstood esoteric source, the French seer's illumination of Revelation could have us very near a cataclysm of unprecedented proportions.

    Saturnin Interval Curtailed By Venus At Ulm With Impending Vestal Union [23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST]

    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi hammer attack; the Seoul Halloween crowd crush; the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting;
    the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange; the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt; the Brazilian copycat insurrection synchronized with the Mercury solar conjunct as predicted; and the plane crash
    in Nepal into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated, with a Marseilles hint for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast.

    The 23 January 2023 date corresponds with Ulm of VIII.34 for Blessed Henry Suso, when Saturn will have a very brief post-lunar-conjunct interval, curtailed by Venus: this is a potential debasement scenario, with a Saturnin event possibly
    occurring prior to the Moon meeting Venus.

    For Geneva, using CET on 23 January 2023:

    10:24 am - Saturn lunar conjunct at 24 degrees 50 minutes Aquarius;

    10:33 am - Fortune sextile Venus at 25 degrees 22 minutes - at this point a rectangle is again evident, which for cataclysmic onset would esoterically be the Cup or Cylindrical Vessel Urn, however in the chart it is oriented at a downward angle,
    beneath the Venus-Moon-Saturn grouping.

    Provincial physical notions of a drinking vessel may not apply: simply having the formation significantly placed for Venus could plausibly be the ancient prophetic intention. The rectangular image is composed with the Sun (3 degrees 5 minutes
    Aquarius), sextile the East Point (2 degrees Aries), trine Lilith (1 degree 39 minutes Leo), sextile the Vertex (1 degree 25 minutes Libra), trine the Sun to complete the form.

    11:19 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 25 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius - the horrific explosive event should have already occurred before this aspect transpires, so that the Saturnins could have endured the worst (V.24).

    A horizontally-oriented rectangular formation appears when Vesta and Neptune conjoin at 8:11 pm, with different composition: Fortune (7 minutes 37 degrees Leo), sextile Ceres (6 minutes 32 degrees Libra), trine Vertex (5 minutes 7 degrees
    Aquarius), sextile Juno-Jupiter (4 to 4.5 degrees Aries), trine Fortune to complete the form. This should be the time of the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6, although not necessarily its igniting moment.

    Both of the Corinth-Ephesus lines could be interpreted as simultaneously activated, since the Moon will be perplexity with Saturn and Venus in Aquarius, while Neptune is approaching its union with Vesta in Pisces, the other astrological 'sea.'

    The critical time for the test of the curtailed Saturnin lunar interval theory is when Venus has its Fortune aspect -

    << 23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST / 1:33 am PST >>
    The 30 January 2023 date is likely an aftermath, given the context of V.83 and VI.78 for Basil the Great reclaimed through the Three Holy Hierarchs: the 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET Ouranos lunar conjunct could relate to the second part of VI.70,
    with the Moon 'surpassing the Heavens.'

    The critical time now seems to be the Neptune lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 8:43 am CET progressing towards the Vesta lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 9:42 am CET: during that interval of nearly an hour, Saturn will rise at the Ascendant (9:04 am
    CET), followed by Venus (9:11 am CET).

    This timing provides another Corinth-Ephesus in perplexity (III.3) opportunity, after the Neptune lunar conjunct, with the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6 possibly manifesting by its subsequent lunar union.

    There is an imperfect Rectangular Form when Venus is at the Ascendant: East Point (11 degrees 18 minutes Pisces), sextile Mercury (10 degrees 49 minutes Capricorn), trine the Vertex (16 degrees 44 minutes Virgo - this outlier distorts the pattern)
    , sextile Pallas (13 degrees 11 minutes Cancer), trine the East Point to complete the form.

    More ideal Rectangular Forms appear around 5:30 am CET during this cycle, involving the Sun, Juno, Ceres and the Vertex - however Venus does not seem significantly engaged at that time of day.

    There is a brief reign for Venus 27 January 2023 3:33 am CET to 28 January 2023 11:35 pm CET; Venus reaches the Geneva Nadir as Queen 28 January 2023 2:20 am CET, with the Moon then between Chiron and Ouranos. Despite an oblong box-like
    configuration (with Ceres, East Point, Jupiter and Mars) and an inexact solar Grand Trine (using the weak Ceres-Mars trine line), it does not appear ominous compared to the 25 January 2023 9:11 am CET (3:11 am EST / 12:11 am PST) situation, because
    Saturn and Vesta are not effectively participating.

    There is a Mars solar trine coinciding with Venus at the Nadir 30 January 2023 2:20 am CET; Ceres appears to extend the trine into a Grand version, although it is about three degrees off their correspondence. A rectangular form is there, yet the
    Moon is beyond Ouranos headed for Mars, which is not indicated for this forecast. The most recent precursor that can be clearly established was the Nepal plane crash with the 15 January Lyons feast for Saint Bonitus synchronization. Taking Vienne for 22
    January and Ulm for the 23rd could provide insight into further events prior to the major world-changing double cataclysm, which still appears imminent.
    The prophetic conundrum of the Cup filled with Divine Fury being given to Venus as Mystery Babylon could be solved by acknowledging a protracted Solar Grand Trine with Mars and Ceres noticeable over several days in late January 2023.

    The Great Urn of X.50 appears to be Solar Grand Trine with Ceres and Mars that will be of sustained duration, like the instance circa 16 November 2022 - that sort of triangular Cup configuration should also be a potential Mobile Sign for I.54,
    rotating over time in the chart orientation.

    Thus despite its technical imperfection, the persistence of the Triangular Form throughout the time of the cataclysmic disruption is the relevant factor.

    The first establishing milestone for this Urn is the Ceres solar trine at 6 degrees 45 minutes (in Libra for Ceres, Aquarius for the Sun) 27 January 2023 around 1 am CET.

    The second foundational aspect is the Mars solar trine at 9 degrees 52 minutes (with Mars in Gemini) 30 January 2023 at 2:19 am CET; Ceres then will be at 6 degrees 53 minutes Libra.


    Lennon had forecast the break-up of the group years before it happened, explaining they simply could not keep the franchise going by thinking up new things
    Re: Lennon predicting the Beatles' breakup, I believe you, but can I see the quote?
    One such comment from John Lennon is accessible (without providing source or date, although likely late 1964) at -

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1980/12/14/the-lennon-legend/d3edf3e6-cfa5-405f-bf08-3880c853d509/

    "We're not going to fizzle out in half a day. But afterwards I'm not going to change into a tap-dancing musical. I'll just develop what I'm doing at the moment.

    This isn't show business.

    This is different from anything that anybody imagines.

    You don't go on from this.

    You do this, and then you finish."

    The other remark about not being able to continue after a certain point is more obscure. In the Fly On The Wall audio excerpt Lennon was overheard discussing how God is the gimmick in their music, an impression that was masterfully fostered through the
    recordings.

    George Martin scored "Yesterday" to McCartney's specifications, although disliking a certain note he perceived as groaning. Later Martin expressed disappointment that due to his being busy, Paul turned to Mike Leander instead for scoring "She's Leaving
    Home." Martin performed the middle instrumental for "In My Life" at half-speed while the group was on a break, but he knew what they wanted by that point.

    Saturnins To Herald Queen Venus With Solar Grand Trine Cup
    [27 January 2023 9:08 am CET / 3:08 am EST / 12:08 am PST]

    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi home invasion hammer attack (X.35, V.66); the Seoul Halloween crowd crush (X.28); the Colorado
    Springs nightclub shooting (as a Tavern at Lombardy via Saint Benignus); the 8 December Griner-Bout prisoner exchange (IV.58 etc); the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt (V.42 for 19 January
    2023 as Lombardy via Saint Bassian); the Great Mercury flowering of US lies in Brazil for their insurrection, overtaking the presidential palace before massive capture, the day after a Mercury solar conjunct (X.79, V.66); and the plane crash in Nepal
    into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated as 'Bristle,' with Lyons-Marseilles hints for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast (I.72, X.88).


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    It is as if the Cylindrical Vessel has been tipped back, so it can be observed in that innocuous orientation in contrast with the prior state of Venus being engulfed at the Nadir as the corner to receive the overflowing contents: it
    is amazing how quickly this subsequent configuration appears from the 19 January 2023 prodigy in Geneva charts, with only the Vertex in common among the dual participants.

    This 'Cup-Withdrawn' impression of the Fury relenting, or celestial declaration of its having been administered, appeared visually in the animated charts around 11:07 am CET; the trine of the Ascendant with Lilith degraded around 11:
    23 am CET, and the Lilith-Vertex sextile disintegrated before 11:30 am CET.

    The Venusian lunar conjunct on 23 January 2023 11:15 am CET in Garabandal should mark the time when the Miracle placed there esoterically on 31 May 2021 8:30 pm local time would become visible, if the purifying Warning event occurs
    from the Venusian-Nadir onset time in Geneva from 19 January 2023 2:12 am CET.

    The January 23 date could be Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso (VIII.34), or alternately the Rhodes of V.16 (via Saints Clement and Agathangelos) where an enduring Phantom manifests. So this otherworldly Sign foretold from The Beatles'
    Hamburg era is another facet of the impending cataclysm; the temporal synchronization of the Brasilia copy-cat coup attempt with the Mercury solar conjunction of 7 January 2023 is potentially a late-stage signal the scenario outlined is nearing its
    inevitable fulfillment.

    The mysterious Miracle, which can only be perceived after the unsettling collective Life-Review of The Preparation, should first be witnessed from

    << 23 January 2023 11:15 am CET / 5:15 am EST / 2:15 am PST >>

    Cause aviendra bien stupende et mirande
    Bien peu apres la terre tremblera

    Something quite stupendous and miraculous will arrive
    Very shortly after the world will have trembled

    [I.46]
    The 15 January 2023 crash of the twin-engine ATR 72 aircraft into the Seti Gorge of Nepal, spinning out of control, going into a nosedive and breaking apart, with at least 68 aboard dead, has manifested as the Lyons event of various
    quatrains, which is a late-stage precursor to the now-imminent major cataclysm. The date corresponds with the feast for Saint Bonitus (623-706), who was made governor of Marseilles, and died in Lyons after a pilgrimage to Rome - the related quatrains
    appear to include I.72, II.83, III.79, VIII.34, IX.68, IX.69, IX.70, X.58, and X.88.

    Du tout Marseille des habitants changee
    Course et poursuite jusqu'aupres de Lyon

    Changed for all the inhabitants of Marseilles
    Flight and pursuit followed towards Lyons

    In I.72 Bonitus being appointed governor of Marseilles is suggested as in identifying fact; the word 'course' has been translated as 'flight' from Leoni's publication circa 1960, without intending to correlate with any airplane incident.
    Bonitus dying in Lyons is another factor establishing his feast day as fateful.

    The case in II.83 is more dubious, speaking of 'heavy traffic changed' at Lyons; the second portion seems to concern the Geneva catastrophe, with the Jura mountain range and 'Swiss drizzle,' with pillage by soldiers reminiscent of IX.68,
    where Lyons is invoked as the juncture of the Rhone and Saone rivers, where evil occurs. Line 3 of III.79 has the chain broken at the port of Marseilles. The mention of Lyons in VIII.34 is isolated, inferring its details are included elsewhere.

    Outre Lyon, Vien eux si grande grele

    Beyond Lyons, great hail upon them at Vienne

    The sequence in line 3 of IX.69 has the Lyons date preceding the Apocalyptic hail shortly following at Vienne: making 15 January Lyons via Saint Bonitus renders the 22 January date as Vienne via Saint Paschasius. The physical violence
    of the disaster appears linked with Vienne in line 3 of IX.70 -

    Ceux de Vienne seront trestous haches
    Those of Vienne will all be hacked apart

    The second half of X.58 features the Marseilles hint again:

    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Tenter Phossens au Ponant entretien

    Gaul to be shaken, to imperil the Bark
    Marseilles to be tried at the Western entreaty

    Gaul is now being presumed for 21 January 2023 via Saint Patroclus of Troyes; the Bark of Saint Peter is the Roman Catholic papacy. The Western entreaty implies some new effort to peacefully resolve the Russian invasion of Ukraine
    ongoing conflict, close to 15 January 2023.

    There seems to be a double prophecy in X.88, where the first half concerned the EgyptAir 990 crash of 31 October 1999, which also involved an aircraft broken in half (as 'Foot and Horse'), taking off from New York City yet destined to
    crash in the ocean nearby ('They will make an entry into the sea devastating all'), giving the correct time of day as 'the second watch.' Notice the phrasing of line 3 -

    Dedans le poil entrera de Marseille

    The word 'poil' should mean hair, or 'bristle' - 'Seti' (the name of the Nepalese Gorge) in Latin also transliterates into 'bristle': so the French seer has acknowledged the unfortunate ultimate destination of Seti Gorge for the flight
    on the 15 January 2023 Marseilles date.

    The final line of X.88 could regard the major cataclysm that shortly follows the crash into Seti Gorge -

    Pleurs, cris, et sang, onc nul temps si amer

    Tears, cries, and blood - never were times so bitter

    There is ambiguity whether the subject was still the plane disaster.

    *

    Trying to explain The Beatles' success as some evil aberration that had to involve some bargain with dark forces is a desperate and ignorant attempt to evade the true challenge posed by Jesus, which was to recognize the time of angelic
    visitation, and perceive what was being offered on a subliminal level, so that the Remembrance of Him could be the springboard to Salvation. As reiterated from Isaiah, merely seeing and hearing in the normal mode is an inadequate approach to attain the
    insights that would affect the required spiritual conversion.

    The Beatles returning from Hamburg received an unexpected reaction because the British crowds thought they were German, with the new sound developed from onstage performances. The screaming began later in Glasgow, but became the normal
    reaction at their concerts without any deliberate direction. From various interviews the group members conveyed a sense of hypocrisy in religious institutions, so that reprocessing the message of Christianity into a sound format could have been their
    test for society.

    The extraordinary popularity they enjoyed was met by McCartney-Lennon proclaiming they had discovered the 'formula' for writing hit songs, without elaborating that fans were likely to be experiencing transference, the subconscious
    messages inducing confusion between the story of Jesus, and the Foursome all attempting to retell it while projecting themselves as aspiring to be Christ-like. That is likely why there was no single 'Horseman' selected to represent Jesus riding into
    Jerusalem in the "Penny Lane" promotional film: all Four wanted to assume the Messianic role simultaneously, asserting their Faith collectively without self-explanatory fanfare.
    Numerous Lyons references could be applied to the recent plane crash in Nepal: IX.68 commences three consecutive related quatrains, as the first report of retrieved bodies was 68, with a 69th found in Seti River Monday evening, then the
    70th at the crash site early Tuesday, before the final accounting was made to 72. There is an interesting transliteration in X.88 of 'poil' meaning 'bristle' (like hair) with Seti, which in Latin means 'bristle.'

    The 15 January 2023 Nepal plane crash being a Lyons event, as precursor for the cataclysm presumed for the 22 January 2023 Vienne date, skips over the 19 January 2023 case for Venus at the Nadir in Geneva. The 'Ulm' of VIII.34 being
    solved for the honoring of Blessed Henry Suso on 23 January is nearly conclusive, with a mention of Lyons preceding to reinforce the sequencing. About a week beyond Lyons is Vienne-Ulm. A new Rhodes date for V.16 would be 12 February 2023, for Venerable
    Meletios of Ypseni.

    The recent Juno Reign could still be the conditions for X.17, despite a subsequent Lilith Reign being terminated by the solar advance into Aquarius - a new Lilith Reign commences 21 January 2023 8:51 pm CET, which will end more than two
    weeks later when Vesta enters Aries 8 February 2023 5:44 am CET. No longer searching for the circumstances that have been previously observed (such as Corinth-Ephesus correlations from 2 November 2022 and 10 January 2023), the parameters have neatly
    narrowed, with some lines taken for real-world predictions rather than hints for the judicial astrology. So certain lines should be reapplied, with their placement in the jigsaw Time Puzzle becoming clearer towards the catastrophic onset.

    The New Moon occurs at 1 degree 32 minutes Aquarius 21 January 2023 9:53 pm CET, presenting the Sun and Moon together for the V.66 prelude to the 'glittering metals' incident.

    Venus at the Nadir for Geneva 22 January 2023 2:15 am CET has a chart with Pluto, the Sun and the Moon as a nearly equidistant grouping, without a definitively ominous appearance.

    A major transition occurs with the Venus-Saturn conjunct at 24 degrees 47 minutes Aquarius 22 January 2023 11:05 pm CET, since the celestial bodies become transposed: the next day, Saturn will reach the Nadir slightly ahead of Venus.

    Saturn at the Nadir for Geneva 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET is at the fulcrum point (24 degrees 48 minutes Aquarius) of an Inverted Grand Trine with conceptual points Fortune (25 degrees 36 minutes Libra) and the Vertex (21 degrees 58
    minutes Gemini). This 'Balance' impression also appears to be the Apocalyptic Cup or Urn, tipping towards the left as the Midheaven is skewed, forming the Crest of a Pediment with Fortune and the Vertex. In this way Venus very near Saturn is both debased
    at the Nadir (a minute later at 2:16 am CET), and perceived as receiving the Saturnin Cup.

    The critical time would be -

    << 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET / 22 January 2023 8:15 pm EST / 5:15 pm PST >>

    The Grand Trine and Pediment together present a Kite configuration, tipping leftward at the top; the fateful observation with Venus at the Nadir 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET had the Sun-Lilith-Neptune Inverted Grand Trine tipped towards
    the right at the top. In the 23 January 2023 case, a cylindrical form overlaps the Grand Trine, however it is broken: Ascendant (12.5 degrees Scorpio) sextile Mercury (9 degrees 23 minutes Capricorn) is somewhat weak; Mercury trine the Node (9 degrees 2
    minutes Taurus) is strong; the Node is about six degrees from Ouranos (near 15 degrees Taurus), which is in a sextile aspect with Pallas (13 degrees 46 minutes Cancer); and Pallas is in a trine with the Ascendant - however the rectangular pattern being
    broken renders the form technically inconsequential.

    The 'Vesta sepulchral fire' phrasing from X.6 should regard its conjoining with Neptune 23 January 2023 8:11 pm CET - when Vesta and Neptune meet at 23 degrees 21 minutes Pisces, a clear rectangular form appears aligned horizontally in
    parallel with the Ecliptic: Fortune (7 degrees 37 minutes Leo) sextile Ceres (6 degrees 32 minutes Libra) trine the Vertex (in solar proximity at 5 degrees 7 minutes Aquarius), whose conceptual point is in a sextile aspect with the pairing of Juno-
    Jupiter (4.5 to 5 degrees Aries), which is roughly in a trine with the Part of Fortune to complete the rectangular form. The Moon and Saturn-Venus will then be slightly below the Descendant.

    This horizontal Box suggests the rectangles previously observed were leading towards this coffin-like manifestation coinciding with the Vesta-Neptune conjunct, rather than representing 'Cylindrical Vessels.' The chronology of IV.58
    implies the 18 December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine as the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' and the Trinity concept being subverted for divine retribution via a particular Grand Trine was a hidden theme from V.18.

    Some January hagiological associations already made could be seen as valid in retrospect: 16 January as Lorraine via Saint Honoratus of Arles; the 19th as Lombardy via Saint Bassian - and Smyrna-Myrrh through Saint Germanicus for the Magi
    Gift Attack theme; the 21st as Gaul via Saint Patroclus; the 22nd as Vienne with Saint Paschasius; the 23rd as Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso.

    For 24 January, Saint Francis de Sales had a connection to Geneva.

    The Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 remains a mystery, possibly spotlighting Saint Paula for 26 January 2023 - born in Rome 347, and died in Bethlehem 404, she is the patroness of widows.

    Saint Thomas Aquinas with the 28 January feast could be inferred as a Toulouse date: he died 7 March 1274, but since that date fell within Lent the calendar was revised in 1969, using the 28 January 1369 date of his remains being placed
    in the Church of Jacobins, Toulouse; from 1789 to 1974 his remains were placed in the Basilique de Sant-Sernin, also in Toulouse, before being returned to the Church of Jacobins.

    The reference to Basil the Great in VI.78 has a potential tandem solution with V.83, the ecumenical rivalry with Saints John Chrysostom and Gregory the Theologian over which was greatest culminating in the 5 October 1084 dream of Saint
    John Mauropous whereby their spiritual solidarity was basis for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs instituted for 30 January, depicted by an iconic image with the three Church figures standing together, each reverently holding a Bible - 'the greatest at
    the table' recalled the divisive rivalry which had an esoteric solution. Because VI.78 presents the 30 January 2023 date as marking initial stages of a mass conversion, while V.83 has it instead as a confirmation point after three nights to warn of an
    unparalleled nation being subverted through fraud, the date is probably used as a dual-purpose aftermath checkpoint.

    Taking 12 February 2023 as the date when the Garabandal Miracle will first be witnessed leads to two timing theories: the only lunar conjunct that day is with the South Node (i.e., Tail of the Dragon) at 10:28 am CET; the placement of The
    Miracle was presumed for 13 May 2021 8:30 pm locally, coinciding with a Mercury lunar conjunct - if that evening timing is consistent, it suggests the 8:31 pm CET Sun-Vertex union, with Mars reaching Midheaven.

    *

    "When two greats saints meet,
    It is a humbling experience"
    The 23 January 2023 conjoining of Vesta and Neptune is their first union since their opposition during the 6 January 2021 Capitol insurrection.

    The lunar opposition-conjunction with the Vesta-Neptune opposition on 4 January 2021 was projected as the time for the enormous violence of X.61 at 'pike and fire'; also a schedule was developed demonstrating the long cycle for reigning of
    Saturn after its conjunction with Jupiter at the 2020 Winter Solstice until Mars entered a new sign on 6 January 2021, not realizing when calculated prior how closely that Mars Reign commencement would be synchronized with the arrival of the National
    Guard to quell the riot.

    Planetary reigning is an elusive concept, that tantalized the generation circa 1999 attempting to fathom X.72 while rejecting the requisite tools: 'Mars to reign beneficially, before and after' - but the in-between case, the Mars entry into
    Capricorn 8 September 2001, delayed by retrograde since the previous instance fell on Valentine's Day 2001, initiated the period for the 9-11 attacks (and the subsequent Mars progression coincided with passage of the defensive Patriot Act).

    Obviously if a corollary to the Vesta-Neptune opposition were sought, the 23 January 2023 timing for their union would be ideal.

    Also Saturn appears featured in a different role than the reigning for the two revolts of I.54, with a conceptual Grand Trine at the Geneva Nadir, seeming to provide the igniting spark that is immediately transferred to debase Venus
    following at the Nadir with the engulfing conflagration. The Saturnin Grand Trine is oriented in mirror-image mockery of the Venus at Nadir chart 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, considered the 'Under The Balance' reference from V.42, skewed Left instead
    of Right to about the same angle.

    Thus those who had been included 'Under The Balance' could mean the Republican House majority being decided at the equivalent time of 16 November 2022 6:47 pm EST - 'The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid - By those whom Eagal
    observed included while Under The Balance': there is no compliant interpretation involving celestial bodies positioned at the Nadir then beyond Venus, such as Mercury. It does not seem purely political, since the great fear resembles the cataclysmic
    terror, yet the extreme faction could attempt to essentially extort massive cuts to entitlement programs, presumably to support further massive tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers, using the occasion of the necessary raising of the debt limit to
    endorse national solvency in contrast to default status.

    In this sense the 19 January 2023 date for Lombardy via Saint Bassian coincides with a preliminary date for this debt limit conflict, where the Republican House might have no members relenting, while the Democrats attempt to hold strong, a
    tactic that the Speaker found untenable. Paying for national debts already incurred becomes a bargaining point for those lacking real concern for the fate of the global economy, since even publicly questioning this obligation can have serve financial
    repercussions.

    There is a House member who said his mother died during the 9-11 attacks, while she applied for a visa in 2003 declaring not having been in the US since 1999. A New Mexico case involves a candidate accused on contesting his landslide loss
    by arranging sniper attacks on the homes of officials who would not agree to overturn the results in his favor. For some winning is not the main thing but the only thing, and the thirst for power to abuse can only perhaps be quenched by a full-fledged
    authoritarian nightmare.

    The Beatles created an aesthetic dream that regressed into the remembrance of Christ's Ministry for the "Penny Lane" triumphal entry into Jerusalem phase, however a forward tangent simultaneously rendered it an afterlife experience,
    haunting the beloved childhood place recently cleansed by rain; the images for the single sleeve featured pictures from their four respective infancies, so it was including George and Ringo with John and Paul in the single concept. Proper sequencing for
    the Christian story would put the associated Sgt Pepper album after "Strawberry Fields Forever," and before "Penny Lane."
    It should not be forgotten that double A-sided single with "Penny Lane" only reached the number two spot in the charts, indicating a let-down in popularity. Dick Clark showed a group of teenagers the two promotional films, to lukewarm
    reaction. The young fans did not care much about McCartney's scooter accident leading to the moustache decision, their new personas appeared off-brand and unfamiliar. While George Martin thought "Strawberry Fields Forever" was a fantastic new direction,
    a sort of mini-symphonic creation, the at-times lethargically slowed vocal and avant-garde treatment was received as kind of a weird departure.

    Interrogating the composers towards their divulging their intentions overtly is something they would likely deliberately avoid. To do so with subliminal melodic phrases would be an admission this method of communication actually failed,
    requiring the composer to detail the note-syllable conversion, ostensibly since it was done so badly no one could ever hear it as such without having it explicitly explained. Someone else having figured out the process for themselves would probably not
    be convincing to those feeling only the original source could be trusted, rather than their own ears and intellect. A close analogy would be a magician determined to keep his tricks secret, although in this case the listener is typically unaware there
    even has been any sort of trick played upon the subconscious.

    In the horn and trumpet portions of "Penny Lane" three synonymous terms are cleverly suggested at various points: 'vendors,' 'merchants,' and 'money-changers.'

    Providing the verbal phrases that correspond with the musical performances should eliminate doubt through the self-confirming authenticity of the experience itself, however accomplishing that for each tune is a major undertaking, and bringing
    up each case to be ignorantly dismissed would not achieve cultural enlightenment.

    As for another misunderstood esoteric source, the French seer's illumination of Revelation could have us very near a cataclysm of unprecedented proportions.

    Saturnin Interval Curtailed By Venus At Ulm With Impending Vestal Union [23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST]

    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi hammer attack; the Seoul Halloween crowd crush; the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting;
    the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange; the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt; the Brazilian copycat insurrection synchronized with the Mercury solar conjunct as predicted; and the plane crash
    in Nepal into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated, with a Marseilles hint for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast.

    The 23 January 2023 date corresponds with Ulm of VIII.34 for Blessed Henry Suso, when Saturn will have a very brief post-lunar-conjunct interval, curtailed by Venus: this is a potential debasement scenario, with a Saturnin event possibly
    occurring prior to the Moon meeting Venus.

    For Geneva, using CET on 23 January 2023:

    10:24 am - Saturn lunar conjunct at 24 degrees 50 minutes Aquarius;

    10:33 am - Fortune sextile Venus at 25 degrees 22 minutes - at this point a rectangle is again evident, which for cataclysmic onset would esoterically be the Cup or Cylindrical Vessel Urn, however in the chart it is oriented at a downward
    angle, beneath the Venus-Moon-Saturn grouping.

    Provincial physical notions of a drinking vessel may not apply: simply having the formation significantly placed for Venus could plausibly be the ancient prophetic intention. The rectangular image is composed with the Sun (3 degrees 5 minutes
    Aquarius), sextile the East Point (2 degrees Aries), trine Lilith (1 degree 39 minutes Leo), sextile the Vertex (1 degree 25 minutes Libra), trine the Sun to complete the form.

    11:19 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 25 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius - the horrific explosive event should have already occurred before this aspect transpires, so that the Saturnins could have endured the worst (V.24).

    A horizontally-oriented rectangular formation appears when Vesta and Neptune conjoin at 8:11 pm, with different composition: Fortune (7 minutes 37 degrees Leo), sextile Ceres (6 minutes 32 degrees Libra), trine Vertex (5 minutes 7 degrees
    Aquarius), sextile Juno-Jupiter (4 to 4.5 degrees Aries), trine Fortune to complete the form. This should be the time of the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6, although not necessarily its igniting moment.

    Both of the Corinth-Ephesus lines could be interpreted as simultaneously activated, since the Moon will be perplexity with Saturn and Venus in Aquarius, while Neptune is approaching its union with Vesta in Pisces, the other astrological 'sea.'


    The critical time for the test of the curtailed Saturnin lunar interval theory is when Venus has its Fortune aspect -

    << 23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST / 1:33 am PST >>
    The 30 January 2023 date is likely an aftermath, given the context of V.83 and VI.78 for Basil the Great reclaimed through the Three Holy Hierarchs: the 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET Ouranos lunar conjunct could relate to the second part of VI.70,
    with the Moon 'surpassing the Heavens.'

    The critical time now seems to be the Neptune lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 8:43 am CET progressing towards the Vesta lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 9:42 am CET: during that interval of nearly an hour, Saturn will rise at the Ascendant (9:04
    am CET), followed by Venus (9:11 am CET).

    This timing provides another Corinth-Ephesus in perplexity (III.3) opportunity, after the Neptune lunar conjunct, with the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6 possibly manifesting by its subsequent lunar union.

    There is an imperfect Rectangular Form when Venus is at the Ascendant: East Point (11 degrees 18 minutes Pisces), sextile Mercury (10 degrees 49 minutes Capricorn), trine the Vertex (16 degrees 44 minutes Virgo - this outlier distorts the
    pattern), sextile Pallas (13 degrees 11 minutes Cancer), trine the East Point to complete the form.

    More ideal Rectangular Forms appear around 5:30 am CET during this cycle, involving the Sun, Juno, Ceres and the Vertex - however Venus does not seem significantly engaged at that time of day.

    There is a brief reign for Venus 27 January 2023 3:33 am CET to 28 January 2023 11:35 pm CET; Venus reaches the Geneva Nadir as Queen 28 January 2023 2:20 am CET, with the Moon then between Chiron and Ouranos. Despite an oblong box-like
    configuration (with Ceres, East Point, Jupiter and Mars) and an inexact solar Grand Trine (using the weak Ceres-Mars trine line), it does not appear ominous compared to the 25 January 2023 9:11 am CET (3:11 am EST / 12:11 am PST) situation, because
    Saturn and Vesta are not effectively participating.

    There is a Mars solar trine coinciding with Venus at the Nadir 30 January 2023 2:20 am CET; Ceres appears to extend the trine into a Grand version, although it is about three degrees off their correspondence. A rectangular form is there, yet
    the Moon is beyond Ouranos headed for Mars, which is not indicated for this forecast. The most recent precursor that can be clearly established was the Nepal plane crash with the 15 January Lyons feast for Saint Bonitus synchronization. Taking Vienne for
    22 January and Ulm for the 23rd could provide insight into further events prior to the major world-changing double cataclysm, which still appears imminent.
    The prophetic conundrum of the Cup filled with Divine Fury being given to Venus as Mystery Babylon could be solved by acknowledging a protracted Solar Grand Trine with Mars and Ceres noticeable over several days in late January 2023.

    The Great Urn of X.50 appears to be Solar Grand Trine with Ceres and Mars that will be of sustained duration, like the instance circa 16 November 2022 - that sort of triangular Cup configuration should also be a potential Mobile Sign for I.54,
    rotating over time in the chart orientation.

    Thus despite its technical imperfection, the persistence of the Triangular Form throughout the time of the cataclysmic disruption is the relevant factor.

    The first establishing milestone for this Urn is the Ceres solar trine at 6 degrees 45 minutes (in Libra for Ceres, Aquarius for the Sun) 27 January 2023 around 1 am CET.

    The second foundational aspect is the Mars solar trine at 9 degrees 52 minutes (with Mars in Gemini) 30 January 2023 at 2:19 am CET; Ceres then will be at 6 degrees 53 minutes Libra.


    Lennon had forecast the break-up of the group years before it happened, explaining they simply could not keep the franchise going by thinking up new things
    Re: Lennon predicting the Beatles' breakup, I believe you, but can I see the quote?
    One such comment from John Lennon is accessible (without providing source or date, although likely late 1964) at -

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1980/12/14/the-lennon-legend/d3edf3e6-cfa5-405f-bf08-3880c853d509/

    "We're not going to fizzle out in half a day. But afterwards I'm not going to change into a tap-dancing musical. I'll just develop what I'm doing at the moment.

    This isn't show business.

    This is different from anything that anybody imagines.

    You don't go on from this.

    You do this, and then you finish."

    The other remark about not being able to continue after a certain point is more obscure. In the Fly On The Wall audio excerpt Lennon was overheard discussing how God is the gimmick in their music, an impression that was masterfully fostered through
    the recordings.

    George Martin scored "Yesterday" to McCartney's specifications, although disliking a certain note he perceived as groaning. Later Martin expressed disappointment that due to his being busy, Paul turned to Mike Leander instead for scoring "She's
    Leaving Home." Martin performed the middle instrumental for "In My Life" at half-speed while the group was on a break, but he knew what they wanted by that point.

    Saturnins To Herald Queen Venus With Solar Grand Trine Cup
    [27 January 2023 9:08 am CET / 3:08 am EST / 12:08 am PST]


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    Something extraordinary was evident examining the chart for the Venus lunar conjunct using San Sebastian de Garabandal, Spain, coordinates 23 January 2023 11:15 am CET (following the Saturn lunar conjunct at 10:24 am CET): an
    entirely new configuration for the Cylindrical Vessel rectangle, this iteration featuring the Saturn-Moon-Venus grouping in a trine with Fortune, while oriented at the uplifted open-mouth of an East Point-Ascendant solar sextile - the Vertex at the
    Descendant provides a solar trine for one long side, and Lilith is in the other trine with the united East Point and Ascendant, with Lilith sextile the Vertex to complete the rectangular form.

    It is as if the Cylindrical Vessel has been tipped back, so it can be observed in that innocuous orientation in contrast with the prior state of Venus being engulfed at the Nadir as the corner to receive the overflowing contents: it
    is amazing how quickly this subsequent configuration appears from the 19 January 2023 prodigy in Geneva charts, with only the Vertex in common among the dual participants.

    This 'Cup-Withdrawn' impression of the Fury relenting, or celestial declaration of its having been administered, appeared visually in the animated charts around 11:07 am CET; the trine of the Ascendant with Lilith degraded around 11:
    23 am CET, and the Lilith-Vertex sextile disintegrated before 11:30 am CET.

    The Venusian lunar conjunct on 23 January 2023 11:15 am CET in Garabandal should mark the time when the Miracle placed there esoterically on 31 May 2021 8:30 pm local time would become visible, if the purifying Warning event occurs
    from the Venusian-Nadir onset time in Geneva from 19 January 2023 2:12 am CET.

    The January 23 date could be Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso (VIII.34), or alternately the Rhodes of V.16 (via Saints Clement and Agathangelos) where an enduring Phantom manifests. So this otherworldly Sign foretold from The Beatles'
    Hamburg era is another facet of the impending cataclysm; the temporal synchronization of the Brasilia copy-cat coup attempt with the Mercury solar conjunction of 7 January 2023 is potentially a late-stage signal the scenario outlined is nearing its
    inevitable fulfillment.

    The mysterious Miracle, which can only be perceived after the unsettling collective Life-Review of The Preparation, should first be witnessed from

    << 23 January 2023 11:15 am CET / 5:15 am EST / 2:15 am PST >>

    Cause aviendra bien stupende et mirande
    Bien peu apres la terre tremblera

    Something quite stupendous and miraculous will arrive Very shortly after the world will have trembled

    [I.46]
    The 15 January 2023 crash of the twin-engine ATR 72 aircraft into the Seti Gorge of Nepal, spinning out of control, going into a nosedive and breaking apart, with at least 68 aboard dead, has manifested as the Lyons event of various
    quatrains, which is a late-stage precursor to the now-imminent major cataclysm. The date corresponds with the feast for Saint Bonitus (623-706), who was made governor of Marseilles, and died in Lyons after a pilgrimage to Rome - the related quatrains
    appear to include I.72, II.83, III.79, VIII.34, IX.68, IX.69, IX.70, X.58, and X.88.

    Du tout Marseille des habitants changee
    Course et poursuite jusqu'aupres de Lyon

    Changed for all the inhabitants of Marseilles
    Flight and pursuit followed towards Lyons

    In I.72 Bonitus being appointed governor of Marseilles is suggested as in identifying fact; the word 'course' has been translated as 'flight' from Leoni's publication circa 1960, without intending to correlate with any airplane
    incident. Bonitus dying in Lyons is another factor establishing his feast day as fateful.

    The case in II.83 is more dubious, speaking of 'heavy traffic changed' at Lyons; the second portion seems to concern the Geneva catastrophe, with the Jura mountain range and 'Swiss drizzle,' with pillage by soldiers reminiscent of IX.
    68, where Lyons is invoked as the juncture of the Rhone and Saone rivers, where evil occurs. Line 3 of III.79 has the chain broken at the port of Marseilles. The mention of Lyons in VIII.34 is isolated, inferring its details are included elsewhere.

    Outre Lyon, Vien eux si grande grele

    Beyond Lyons, great hail upon them at Vienne

    The sequence in line 3 of IX.69 has the Lyons date preceding the Apocalyptic hail shortly following at Vienne: making 15 January Lyons via Saint Bonitus renders the 22 January date as Vienne via Saint Paschasius. The physical violence
    of the disaster appears linked with Vienne in line 3 of IX.70 -

    Ceux de Vienne seront trestous haches
    Those of Vienne will all be hacked apart

    The second half of X.58 features the Marseilles hint again:

    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Tenter Phossens au Ponant entretien

    Gaul to be shaken, to imperil the Bark
    Marseilles to be tried at the Western entreaty

    Gaul is now being presumed for 21 January 2023 via Saint Patroclus of Troyes; the Bark of Saint Peter is the Roman Catholic papacy. The Western entreaty implies some new effort to peacefully resolve the Russian invasion of Ukraine
    ongoing conflict, close to 15 January 2023.

    There seems to be a double prophecy in X.88, where the first half concerned the EgyptAir 990 crash of 31 October 1999, which also involved an aircraft broken in half (as 'Foot and Horse'), taking off from New York City yet destined to
    crash in the ocean nearby ('They will make an entry into the sea devastating all'), giving the correct time of day as 'the second watch.' Notice the phrasing of line 3 -

    Dedans le poil entrera de Marseille

    The word 'poil' should mean hair, or 'bristle' - 'Seti' (the name of the Nepalese Gorge) in Latin also transliterates into 'bristle': so the French seer has acknowledged the unfortunate ultimate destination of Seti Gorge for the
    flight on the 15 January 2023 Marseilles date.

    The final line of X.88 could regard the major cataclysm that shortly follows the crash into Seti Gorge -

    Pleurs, cris, et sang, onc nul temps si amer

    Tears, cries, and blood - never were times so bitter

    There is ambiguity whether the subject was still the plane disaster.

    *

    Trying to explain The Beatles' success as some evil aberration that had to involve some bargain with dark forces is a desperate and ignorant attempt to evade the true challenge posed by Jesus, which was to recognize the time of
    angelic visitation, and perceive what was being offered on a subliminal level, so that the Remembrance of Him could be the springboard to Salvation. As reiterated from Isaiah, merely seeing and hearing in the normal mode is an inadequate approach to
    attain the insights that would affect the required spiritual conversion.

    The Beatles returning from Hamburg received an unexpected reaction because the British crowds thought they were German, with the new sound developed from onstage performances. The screaming began later in Glasgow, but became the
    normal reaction at their concerts without any deliberate direction. From various interviews the group members conveyed a sense of hypocrisy in religious institutions, so that reprocessing the message of Christianity into a sound format could have been
    their test for society.

    The extraordinary popularity they enjoyed was met by McCartney-Lennon proclaiming they had discovered the 'formula' for writing hit songs, without elaborating that fans were likely to be experiencing transference, the subconscious
    messages inducing confusion between the story of Jesus, and the Foursome all attempting to retell it while projecting themselves as aspiring to be Christ-like. That is likely why there was no single 'Horseman' selected to represent Jesus riding into
    Jerusalem in the "Penny Lane" promotional film: all Four wanted to assume the Messianic role simultaneously, asserting their Faith collectively without self-explanatory fanfare.
    Numerous Lyons references could be applied to the recent plane crash in Nepal: IX.68 commences three consecutive related quatrains, as the first report of retrieved bodies was 68, with a 69th found in Seti River Monday evening, then the
    70th at the crash site early Tuesday, before the final accounting was made to 72. There is an interesting transliteration in X.88 of 'poil' meaning 'bristle' (like hair) with Seti, which in Latin means 'bristle.'

    The 15 January 2023 Nepal plane crash being a Lyons event, as precursor for the cataclysm presumed for the 22 January 2023 Vienne date, skips over the 19 January 2023 case for Venus at the Nadir in Geneva. The 'Ulm' of VIII.34 being
    solved for the honoring of Blessed Henry Suso on 23 January is nearly conclusive, with a mention of Lyons preceding to reinforce the sequencing. About a week beyond Lyons is Vienne-Ulm. A new Rhodes date for V.16 would be 12 February 2023, for Venerable
    Meletios of Ypseni.

    The recent Juno Reign could still be the conditions for X.17, despite a subsequent Lilith Reign being terminated by the solar advance into Aquarius - a new Lilith Reign commences 21 January 2023 8:51 pm CET, which will end more than two
    weeks later when Vesta enters Aries 8 February 2023 5:44 am CET. No longer searching for the circumstances that have been previously observed (such as Corinth-Ephesus correlations from 2 November 2022 and 10 January 2023), the parameters have neatly
    narrowed, with some lines taken for real-world predictions rather than hints for the judicial astrology. So certain lines should be reapplied, with their placement in the jigsaw Time Puzzle becoming clearer towards the catastrophic onset.

    The New Moon occurs at 1 degree 32 minutes Aquarius 21 January 2023 9:53 pm CET, presenting the Sun and Moon together for the V.66 prelude to the 'glittering metals' incident.

    Venus at the Nadir for Geneva 22 January 2023 2:15 am CET has a chart with Pluto, the Sun and the Moon as a nearly equidistant grouping, without a definitively ominous appearance.

    A major transition occurs with the Venus-Saturn conjunct at 24 degrees 47 minutes Aquarius 22 January 2023 11:05 pm CET, since the celestial bodies become transposed: the next day, Saturn will reach the Nadir slightly ahead of Venus.

    Saturn at the Nadir for Geneva 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET is at the fulcrum point (24 degrees 48 minutes Aquarius) of an Inverted Grand Trine with conceptual points Fortune (25 degrees 36 minutes Libra) and the Vertex (21 degrees 58
    minutes Gemini). This 'Balance' impression also appears to be the Apocalyptic Cup or Urn, tipping towards the left as the Midheaven is skewed, forming the Crest of a Pediment with Fortune and the Vertex. In this way Venus very near Saturn is both debased
    at the Nadir (a minute later at 2:16 am CET), and perceived as receiving the Saturnin Cup.

    The critical time would be -

    << 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET / 22 January 2023 8:15 pm EST / 5:15 pm PST >>

    The Grand Trine and Pediment together present a Kite configuration, tipping leftward at the top; the fateful observation with Venus at the Nadir 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET had the Sun-Lilith-Neptune Inverted Grand Trine tipped
    towards the right at the top. In the 23 January 2023 case, a cylindrical form overlaps the Grand Trine, however it is broken: Ascendant (12.5 degrees Scorpio) sextile Mercury (9 degrees 23 minutes Capricorn) is somewhat weak; Mercury trine the Node (9
    degrees 2 minutes Taurus) is strong; the Node is about six degrees from Ouranos (near 15 degrees Taurus), which is in a sextile aspect with Pallas (13 degrees 46 minutes Cancer); and Pallas is in a trine with the Ascendant - however the rectangular
    pattern being broken renders the form technically inconsequential.

    The 'Vesta sepulchral fire' phrasing from X.6 should regard its conjoining with Neptune 23 January 2023 8:11 pm CET - when Vesta and Neptune meet at 23 degrees 21 minutes Pisces, a clear rectangular form appears aligned horizontally in
    parallel with the Ecliptic: Fortune (7 degrees 37 minutes Leo) sextile Ceres (6 degrees 32 minutes Libra) trine the Vertex (in solar proximity at 5 degrees 7 minutes Aquarius), whose conceptual point is in a sextile aspect with the pairing of Juno-
    Jupiter (4.5 to 5 degrees Aries), which is roughly in a trine with the Part of Fortune to complete the rectangular form. The Moon and Saturn-Venus will then be slightly below the Descendant.

    This horizontal Box suggests the rectangles previously observed were leading towards this coffin-like manifestation coinciding with the Vesta-Neptune conjunct, rather than representing 'Cylindrical Vessels.' The chronology of IV.58
    implies the 18 December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine as the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' and the Trinity concept being subverted for divine retribution via a particular Grand Trine was a hidden theme from V.18.

    Some January hagiological associations already made could be seen as valid in retrospect: 16 January as Lorraine via Saint Honoratus of Arles; the 19th as Lombardy via Saint Bassian - and Smyrna-Myrrh through Saint Germanicus for the
    Magi Gift Attack theme; the 21st as Gaul via Saint Patroclus; the 22nd as Vienne with Saint Paschasius; the 23rd as Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso.

    For 24 January, Saint Francis de Sales had a connection to Geneva.

    The Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 remains a mystery, possibly spotlighting Saint Paula for 26 January 2023 - born in Rome 347, and died in Bethlehem 404, she is the patroness of widows.

    Saint Thomas Aquinas with the 28 January feast could be inferred as a Toulouse date: he died 7 March 1274, but since that date fell within Lent the calendar was revised in 1969, using the 28 January 1369 date of his remains being placed
    in the Church of Jacobins, Toulouse; from 1789 to 1974 his remains were placed in the Basilique de Sant-Sernin, also in Toulouse, before being returned to the Church of Jacobins.

    The reference to Basil the Great in VI.78 has a potential tandem solution with V.83, the ecumenical rivalry with Saints John Chrysostom and Gregory the Theologian over which was greatest culminating in the 5 October 1084 dream of Saint
    John Mauropous whereby their spiritual solidarity was basis for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs instituted for 30 January, depicted by an iconic image with the three Church figures standing together, each reverently holding a Bible - 'the greatest at
    the table' recalled the divisive rivalry which had an esoteric solution. Because VI.78 presents the 30 January 2023 date as marking initial stages of a mass conversion, while V.83 has it instead as a confirmation point after three nights to warn of an
    unparalleled nation being subverted through fraud, the date is probably used as a dual-purpose aftermath checkpoint.

    Taking 12 February 2023 as the date when the Garabandal Miracle will first be witnessed leads to two timing theories: the only lunar conjunct that day is with the South Node (i.e., Tail of the Dragon) at 10:28 am CET; the placement of
    The Miracle was presumed for 13 May 2021 8:30 pm locally, coinciding with a Mercury lunar conjunct - if that evening timing is consistent, it suggests the 8:31 pm CET Sun-Vertex union, with Mars reaching Midheaven.

    *

    "When two greats saints meet,
    It is a humbling experience"
    The 23 January 2023 conjoining of Vesta and Neptune is their first union since their opposition during the 6 January 2021 Capitol insurrection.

    The lunar opposition-conjunction with the Vesta-Neptune opposition on 4 January 2021 was projected as the time for the enormous violence of X.61 at 'pike and fire'; also a schedule was developed demonstrating the long cycle for reigning
    of Saturn after its conjunction with Jupiter at the 2020 Winter Solstice until Mars entered a new sign on 6 January 2021, not realizing when calculated prior how closely that Mars Reign commencement would be synchronized with the arrival of the National
    Guard to quell the riot.

    Planetary reigning is an elusive concept, that tantalized the generation circa 1999 attempting to fathom X.72 while rejecting the requisite tools: 'Mars to reign beneficially, before and after' - but the in-between case, the Mars entry
    into Capricorn 8 September 2001, delayed by retrograde since the previous instance fell on Valentine's Day 2001, initiated the period for the 9-11 attacks (and the subsequent Mars progression coincided with passage of the defensive Patriot Act).

    Obviously if a corollary to the Vesta-Neptune opposition were sought, the 23 January 2023 timing for their union would be ideal.

    Also Saturn appears featured in a different role than the reigning for the two revolts of I.54, with a conceptual Grand Trine at the Geneva Nadir, seeming to provide the igniting spark that is immediately transferred to debase Venus
    following at the Nadir with the engulfing conflagration. The Saturnin Grand Trine is oriented in mirror-image mockery of the Venus at Nadir chart 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, considered the 'Under The Balance' reference from V.42, skewed Left instead
    of Right to about the same angle.

    Thus those who had been included 'Under The Balance' could mean the Republican House majority being decided at the equivalent time of 16 November 2022 6:47 pm EST - 'The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid - By those whom Eagal
    observed included while Under The Balance': there is no compliant interpretation involving celestial bodies positioned at the Nadir then beyond Venus, such as Mercury. It does not seem purely political, since the great fear resembles the cataclysmic
    terror, yet the extreme faction could attempt to essentially extort massive cuts to entitlement programs, presumably to support further massive tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers, using the occasion of the necessary raising of the debt limit to
    endorse national solvency in contrast to default status.

    In this sense the 19 January 2023 date for Lombardy via Saint Bassian coincides with a preliminary date for this debt limit conflict, where the Republican House might have no members relenting, while the Democrats attempt to hold strong,
    a tactic that the Speaker found untenable. Paying for national debts already incurred becomes a bargaining point for those lacking real concern for the fate of the global economy, since even publicly questioning this obligation can have serve financial
    repercussions.

    There is a House member who said his mother died during the 9-11 attacks, while she applied for a visa in 2003 declaring not having been in the US since 1999. A New Mexico case involves a candidate accused on contesting his landslide loss
    by arranging sniper attacks on the homes of officials who would not agree to overturn the results in his favor. For some winning is not the main thing but the only thing, and the thirst for power to abuse can only perhaps be quenched by a full-fledged
    authoritarian nightmare.

    The Beatles created an aesthetic dream that regressed into the remembrance of Christ's Ministry for the "Penny Lane" triumphal entry into Jerusalem phase, however a forward tangent simultaneously rendered it an afterlife experience,
    haunting the beloved childhood place recently cleansed by rain; the images for the single sleeve featured pictures from their four respective infancies, so it was including George and Ringo with John and Paul in the single concept. Proper sequencing for
    the Christian story would put the associated Sgt Pepper album after "Strawberry Fields Forever," and before "Penny Lane."
    It should not be forgotten that double A-sided single with "Penny Lane" only reached the number two spot in the charts, indicating a let-down in popularity. Dick Clark showed a group of teenagers the two promotional films, to lukewarm
    reaction. The young fans did not care much about McCartney's scooter accident leading to the moustache decision, their new personas appeared off-brand and unfamiliar. While George Martin thought "Strawberry Fields Forever" was a fantastic new direction,
    a sort of mini-symphonic creation, the at-times lethargically slowed vocal and avant-garde treatment was received as kind of a weird departure.

    Interrogating the composers towards their divulging their intentions overtly is something they would likely deliberately avoid. To do so with subliminal melodic phrases would be an admission this method of communication actually failed,
    requiring the composer to detail the note-syllable conversion, ostensibly since it was done so badly no one could ever hear it as such without having it explicitly explained. Someone else having figured out the process for themselves would probably not
    be convincing to those feeling only the original source could be trusted, rather than their own ears and intellect. A close analogy would be a magician determined to keep his tricks secret, although in this case the listener is typically unaware there
    even has been any sort of trick played upon the subconscious.

    In the horn and trumpet portions of "Penny Lane" three synonymous terms are cleverly suggested at various points: 'vendors,' 'merchants,' and 'money-changers.'

    Providing the verbal phrases that correspond with the musical performances should eliminate doubt through the self-confirming authenticity of the experience itself, however accomplishing that for each tune is a major undertaking, and
    bringing up each case to be ignorantly dismissed would not achieve cultural enlightenment.

    As for another misunderstood esoteric source, the French seer's illumination of Revelation could have us very near a cataclysm of unprecedented proportions.

    Saturnin Interval Curtailed By Venus At Ulm With Impending Vestal Union [23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST]

    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi hammer attack; the Seoul Halloween crowd crush; the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting;
    the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange; the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt; the Brazilian copycat insurrection synchronized with the Mercury solar conjunct as predicted; and the plane crash
    in Nepal into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated, with a Marseilles hint for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast.

    The 23 January 2023 date corresponds with Ulm of VIII.34 for Blessed Henry Suso, when Saturn will have a very brief post-lunar-conjunct interval, curtailed by Venus: this is a potential debasement scenario, with a Saturnin event possibly
    occurring prior to the Moon meeting Venus.

    For Geneva, using CET on 23 January 2023:

    10:24 am - Saturn lunar conjunct at 24 degrees 50 minutes Aquarius;

    10:33 am - Fortune sextile Venus at 25 degrees 22 minutes - at this point a rectangle is again evident, which for cataclysmic onset would esoterically be the Cup or Cylindrical Vessel Urn, however in the chart it is oriented at a downward
    angle, beneath the Venus-Moon-Saturn grouping.

    Provincial physical notions of a drinking vessel may not apply: simply having the formation significantly placed for Venus could plausibly be the ancient prophetic intention. The rectangular image is composed with the Sun (3 degrees 5
    minutes Aquarius), sextile the East Point (2 degrees Aries), trine Lilith (1 degree 39 minutes Leo), sextile the Vertex (1 degree 25 minutes Libra), trine the Sun to complete the form.

    11:19 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 25 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius - the horrific explosive event should have already occurred before this aspect transpires, so that the Saturnins could have endured the worst (V.24).

    A horizontally-oriented rectangular formation appears when Vesta and Neptune conjoin at 8:11 pm, with different composition: Fortune (7 minutes 37 degrees Leo), sextile Ceres (6 minutes 32 degrees Libra), trine Vertex (5 minutes 7 degrees
    Aquarius), sextile Juno-Jupiter (4 to 4.5 degrees Aries), trine Fortune to complete the form. This should be the time of the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6, although not necessarily its igniting moment.

    Both of the Corinth-Ephesus lines could be interpreted as simultaneously activated, since the Moon will be perplexity with Saturn and Venus in Aquarius, while Neptune is approaching its union with Vesta in Pisces, the other astrological '
    sea.'

    The critical time for the test of the curtailed Saturnin lunar interval theory is when Venus has its Fortune aspect -

    << 23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST / 1:33 am PST >>
    The 30 January 2023 date is likely an aftermath, given the context of V.83 and VI.78 for Basil the Great reclaimed through the Three Holy Hierarchs: the 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET Ouranos lunar conjunct could relate to the second part of VI.
    70, with the Moon 'surpassing the Heavens.'

    The critical time now seems to be the Neptune lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 8:43 am CET progressing towards the Vesta lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 9:42 am CET: during that interval of nearly an hour, Saturn will rise at the Ascendant (9:04
    am CET), followed by Venus (9:11 am CET).

    This timing provides another Corinth-Ephesus in perplexity (III.3) opportunity, after the Neptune lunar conjunct, with the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6 possibly manifesting by its subsequent lunar union.

    There is an imperfect Rectangular Form when Venus is at the Ascendant: East Point (11 degrees 18 minutes Pisces), sextile Mercury (10 degrees 49 minutes Capricorn), trine the Vertex (16 degrees 44 minutes Virgo - this outlier distorts the
    pattern), sextile Pallas (13 degrees 11 minutes Cancer), trine the East Point to complete the form.

    More ideal Rectangular Forms appear around 5:30 am CET during this cycle, involving the Sun, Juno, Ceres and the Vertex - however Venus does not seem significantly engaged at that time of day.

    There is a brief reign for Venus 27 January 2023 3:33 am CET to 28 January 2023 11:35 pm CET; Venus reaches the Geneva Nadir as Queen 28 January 2023 2:20 am CET, with the Moon then between Chiron and Ouranos. Despite an oblong box-like
    configuration (with Ceres, East Point, Jupiter and Mars) and an inexact solar Grand Trine (using the weak Ceres-Mars trine line), it does not appear ominous compared to the 25 January 2023 9:11 am CET (3:11 am EST / 12:11 am PST) situation, because
    Saturn and Vesta are not effectively participating.

    There is a Mars solar trine coinciding with Venus at the Nadir 30 January 2023 2:20 am CET; Ceres appears to extend the trine into a Grand version, although it is about three degrees off their correspondence. A rectangular form is there, yet
    the Moon is beyond Ouranos headed for Mars, which is not indicated for this forecast. The most recent precursor that can be clearly established was the Nepal plane crash with the 15 January Lyons feast for Saint Bonitus synchronization. Taking Vienne for
    22 January and Ulm for the 23rd could provide insight into further events prior to the major world-changing double cataclysm, which still appears imminent.
    The prophetic conundrum of the Cup filled with Divine Fury being given to Venus as Mystery Babylon could be solved by acknowledging a protracted Solar Grand Trine with Mars and Ceres noticeable over several days in late January 2023.

    The Great Urn of X.50 appears to be Solar Grand Trine with Ceres and Mars that will be of sustained duration, like the instance circa 16 November 2022 - that sort of triangular Cup configuration should also be a potential Mobile Sign for I.54,
    rotating over time in the chart orientation.

    Thus despite its technical imperfection, the persistence of the Triangular Form throughout the time of the cataclysmic disruption is the relevant factor.

    The first establishing milestone for this Urn is the Ceres solar trine at 6 degrees 45 minutes (in Libra for Ceres, Aquarius for the Sun) 27 January 2023 around 1 am CET.

    The second foundational aspect is the Mars solar trine at 9 degrees 52 minutes (with Mars in Gemini) 30 January 2023 at 2:19 am CET; Ceres then will be at 6 degrees 53 minutes Libra.


    Lennon had forecast the break-up of the group years before it happened, explaining they simply could not keep the franchise going by thinking up new things
    Re: Lennon predicting the Beatles' breakup, I believe you, but can I see the quote?
    One such comment from John Lennon is accessible (without providing source or date, although likely late 1964) at -

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1980/12/14/the-lennon-legend/d3edf3e6-cfa5-405f-bf08-3880c853d509/


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    'A Good Friend Of Mine
    Studies The Stars...'
    VESSEL TIPPED BACK FOR SATURN-MOON-VENUS
    TO SEE GARABANDAL MIRACLE 23 JANUARY 2023

    Something extraordinary was evident examining the chart for the Venus lunar conjunct using San Sebastian de Garabandal, Spain, coordinates 23 January 2023 11:15 am CET (following the Saturn lunar conjunct at 10:24 am CET): an
    entirely new configuration for the Cylindrical Vessel rectangle, this iteration featuring the Saturn-Moon-Venus grouping in a trine with Fortune, while oriented at the uplifted open-mouth of an East Point-Ascendant solar sextile - the Vertex at the
    Descendant provides a solar trine for one long side, and Lilith is in the other trine with the united East Point and Ascendant, with Lilith sextile the Vertex to complete the rectangular form.

    It is as if the Cylindrical Vessel has been tipped back, so it can be observed in that innocuous orientation in contrast with the prior state of Venus being engulfed at the Nadir as the corner to receive the overflowing contents:
    it is amazing how quickly this subsequent configuration appears from the 19 January 2023 prodigy in Geneva charts, with only the Vertex in common among the dual participants.

    This 'Cup-Withdrawn' impression of the Fury relenting, or celestial declaration of its having been administered, appeared visually in the animated charts around 11:07 am CET; the trine of the Ascendant with Lilith degraded around
    11:23 am CET, and the Lilith-Vertex sextile disintegrated before 11:30 am CET.

    The Venusian lunar conjunct on 23 January 2023 11:15 am CET in Garabandal should mark the time when the Miracle placed there esoterically on 31 May 2021 8:30 pm local time would become visible, if the purifying Warning event
    occurs from the Venusian-Nadir onset time in Geneva from 19 January 2023 2:12 am CET.

    The January 23 date could be Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso (VIII.34), or alternately the Rhodes of V.16 (via Saints Clement and Agathangelos) where an enduring Phantom manifests. So this otherworldly Sign foretold from The Beatles'
    Hamburg era is another facet of the impending cataclysm; the temporal synchronization of the Brasilia copy-cat coup attempt with the Mercury solar conjunction of 7 January 2023 is potentially a late-stage signal the scenario outlined is nearing its
    inevitable fulfillment.

    The mysterious Miracle, which can only be perceived after the unsettling collective Life-Review of The Preparation, should first be witnessed from

    << 23 January 2023 11:15 am CET / 5:15 am EST / 2:15 am PST >>

    Cause aviendra bien stupende et mirande
    Bien peu apres la terre tremblera

    Something quite stupendous and miraculous will arrive Very shortly after the world will have trembled

    [I.46]
    The 15 January 2023 crash of the twin-engine ATR 72 aircraft into the Seti Gorge of Nepal, spinning out of control, going into a nosedive and breaking apart, with at least 68 aboard dead, has manifested as the Lyons event of various
    quatrains, which is a late-stage precursor to the now-imminent major cataclysm. The date corresponds with the feast for Saint Bonitus (623-706), who was made governor of Marseilles, and died in Lyons after a pilgrimage to Rome - the related quatrains
    appear to include I.72, II.83, III.79, VIII.34, IX.68, IX.69, IX.70, X.58, and X.88.

    Du tout Marseille des habitants changee
    Course et poursuite jusqu'aupres de Lyon

    Changed for all the inhabitants of Marseilles
    Flight and pursuit followed towards Lyons

    In I.72 Bonitus being appointed governor of Marseilles is suggested as in identifying fact; the word 'course' has been translated as 'flight' from Leoni's publication circa 1960, without intending to correlate with any airplane
    incident. Bonitus dying in Lyons is another factor establishing his feast day as fateful.

    The case in II.83 is more dubious, speaking of 'heavy traffic changed' at Lyons; the second portion seems to concern the Geneva catastrophe, with the Jura mountain range and 'Swiss drizzle,' with pillage by soldiers reminiscent of
    IX.68, where Lyons is invoked as the juncture of the Rhone and Saone rivers, where evil occurs. Line 3 of III.79 has the chain broken at the port of Marseilles. The mention of Lyons in VIII.34 is isolated, inferring its details are included elsewhere.

    Outre Lyon, Vien eux si grande grele

    Beyond Lyons, great hail upon them at Vienne

    The sequence in line 3 of IX.69 has the Lyons date preceding the Apocalyptic hail shortly following at Vienne: making 15 January Lyons via Saint Bonitus renders the 22 January date as Vienne via Saint Paschasius. The physical
    violence of the disaster appears linked with Vienne in line 3 of IX.70 -

    Ceux de Vienne seront trestous haches
    Those of Vienne will all be hacked apart

    The second half of X.58 features the Marseilles hint again:

    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Tenter Phossens au Ponant entretien

    Gaul to be shaken, to imperil the Bark
    Marseilles to be tried at the Western entreaty

    Gaul is now being presumed for 21 January 2023 via Saint Patroclus of Troyes; the Bark of Saint Peter is the Roman Catholic papacy. The Western entreaty implies some new effort to peacefully resolve the Russian invasion of Ukraine
    ongoing conflict, close to 15 January 2023.

    There seems to be a double prophecy in X.88, where the first half concerned the EgyptAir 990 crash of 31 October 1999, which also involved an aircraft broken in half (as 'Foot and Horse'), taking off from New York City yet destined
    to crash in the ocean nearby ('They will make an entry into the sea devastating all'), giving the correct time of day as 'the second watch.' Notice the phrasing of line 3 -

    Dedans le poil entrera de Marseille

    The word 'poil' should mean hair, or 'bristle' - 'Seti' (the name of the Nepalese Gorge) in Latin also transliterates into 'bristle': so the French seer has acknowledged the unfortunate ultimate destination of Seti Gorge for the
    flight on the 15 January 2023 Marseilles date.

    The final line of X.88 could regard the major cataclysm that shortly follows the crash into Seti Gorge -

    Pleurs, cris, et sang, onc nul temps si amer

    Tears, cries, and blood - never were times so bitter

    There is ambiguity whether the subject was still the plane disaster.

    *

    Trying to explain The Beatles' success as some evil aberration that had to involve some bargain with dark forces is a desperate and ignorant attempt to evade the true challenge posed by Jesus, which was to recognize the time of
    angelic visitation, and perceive what was being offered on a subliminal level, so that the Remembrance of Him could be the springboard to Salvation. As reiterated from Isaiah, merely seeing and hearing in the normal mode is an inadequate approach to
    attain the insights that would affect the required spiritual conversion.

    The Beatles returning from Hamburg received an unexpected reaction because the British crowds thought they were German, with the new sound developed from onstage performances. The screaming began later in Glasgow, but became the
    normal reaction at their concerts without any deliberate direction. From various interviews the group members conveyed a sense of hypocrisy in religious institutions, so that reprocessing the message of Christianity into a sound format could have been
    their test for society.

    The extraordinary popularity they enjoyed was met by McCartney-Lennon proclaiming they had discovered the 'formula' for writing hit songs, without elaborating that fans were likely to be experiencing transference, the subconscious
    messages inducing confusion between the story of Jesus, and the Foursome all attempting to retell it while projecting themselves as aspiring to be Christ-like. That is likely why there was no single 'Horseman' selected to represent Jesus riding into
    Jerusalem in the "Penny Lane" promotional film: all Four wanted to assume the Messianic role simultaneously, asserting their Faith collectively without self-explanatory fanfare.
    Numerous Lyons references could be applied to the recent plane crash in Nepal: IX.68 commences three consecutive related quatrains, as the first report of retrieved bodies was 68, with a 69th found in Seti River Monday evening, then
    the 70th at the crash site early Tuesday, before the final accounting was made to 72. There is an interesting transliteration in X.88 of 'poil' meaning 'bristle' (like hair) with Seti, which in Latin means 'bristle.'

    The 15 January 2023 Nepal plane crash being a Lyons event, as precursor for the cataclysm presumed for the 22 January 2023 Vienne date, skips over the 19 January 2023 case for Venus at the Nadir in Geneva. The 'Ulm' of VIII.34 being
    solved for the honoring of Blessed Henry Suso on 23 January is nearly conclusive, with a mention of Lyons preceding to reinforce the sequencing. About a week beyond Lyons is Vienne-Ulm. A new Rhodes date for V.16 would be 12 February 2023, for Venerable
    Meletios of Ypseni.

    The recent Juno Reign could still be the conditions for X.17, despite a subsequent Lilith Reign being terminated by the solar advance into Aquarius - a new Lilith Reign commences 21 January 2023 8:51 pm CET, which will end more than
    two weeks later when Vesta enters Aries 8 February 2023 5:44 am CET. No longer searching for the circumstances that have been previously observed (such as Corinth-Ephesus correlations from 2 November 2022 and 10 January 2023), the parameters have neatly
    narrowed, with some lines taken for real-world predictions rather than hints for the judicial astrology. So certain lines should be reapplied, with their placement in the jigsaw Time Puzzle becoming clearer towards the catastrophic onset.

    The New Moon occurs at 1 degree 32 minutes Aquarius 21 January 2023 9:53 pm CET, presenting the Sun and Moon together for the V.66 prelude to the 'glittering metals' incident.

    Venus at the Nadir for Geneva 22 January 2023 2:15 am CET has a chart with Pluto, the Sun and the Moon as a nearly equidistant grouping, without a definitively ominous appearance.

    A major transition occurs with the Venus-Saturn conjunct at 24 degrees 47 minutes Aquarius 22 January 2023 11:05 pm CET, since the celestial bodies become transposed: the next day, Saturn will reach the Nadir slightly ahead of Venus.

    Saturn at the Nadir for Geneva 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET is at the fulcrum point (24 degrees 48 minutes Aquarius) of an Inverted Grand Trine with conceptual points Fortune (25 degrees 36 minutes Libra) and the Vertex (21 degrees 58
    minutes Gemini). This 'Balance' impression also appears to be the Apocalyptic Cup or Urn, tipping towards the left as the Midheaven is skewed, forming the Crest of a Pediment with Fortune and the Vertex. In this way Venus very near Saturn is both debased
    at the Nadir (a minute later at 2:16 am CET), and perceived as receiving the Saturnin Cup.

    The critical time would be -

    << 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET / 22 January 2023 8:15 pm EST / 5:15 pm PST >>

    The Grand Trine and Pediment together present a Kite configuration, tipping leftward at the top; the fateful observation with Venus at the Nadir 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET had the Sun-Lilith-Neptune Inverted Grand Trine tipped
    towards the right at the top. In the 23 January 2023 case, a cylindrical form overlaps the Grand Trine, however it is broken: Ascendant (12.5 degrees Scorpio) sextile Mercury (9 degrees 23 minutes Capricorn) is somewhat weak; Mercury trine the Node (9
    degrees 2 minutes Taurus) is strong; the Node is about six degrees from Ouranos (near 15 degrees Taurus), which is in a sextile aspect with Pallas (13 degrees 46 minutes Cancer); and Pallas is in a trine with the Ascendant - however the rectangular
    pattern being broken renders the form technically inconsequential.

    The 'Vesta sepulchral fire' phrasing from X.6 should regard its conjoining with Neptune 23 January 2023 8:11 pm CET - when Vesta and Neptune meet at 23 degrees 21 minutes Pisces, a clear rectangular form appears aligned horizontally
    in parallel with the Ecliptic: Fortune (7 degrees 37 minutes Leo) sextile Ceres (6 degrees 32 minutes Libra) trine the Vertex (in solar proximity at 5 degrees 7 minutes Aquarius), whose conceptual point is in a sextile aspect with the pairing of Juno-
    Jupiter (4.5 to 5 degrees Aries), which is roughly in a trine with the Part of Fortune to complete the rectangular form. The Moon and Saturn-Venus will then be slightly below the Descendant.

    This horizontal Box suggests the rectangles previously observed were leading towards this coffin-like manifestation coinciding with the Vesta-Neptune conjunct, rather than representing 'Cylindrical Vessels.' The chronology of IV.58
    implies the 18 December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine as the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' and the Trinity concept being subverted for divine retribution via a particular Grand Trine was a hidden theme from V.18.

    Some January hagiological associations already made could be seen as valid in retrospect: 16 January as Lorraine via Saint Honoratus of Arles; the 19th as Lombardy via Saint Bassian - and Smyrna-Myrrh through Saint Germanicus for the
    Magi Gift Attack theme; the 21st as Gaul via Saint Patroclus; the 22nd as Vienne with Saint Paschasius; the 23rd as Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso.

    For 24 January, Saint Francis de Sales had a connection to Geneva.

    The Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 remains a mystery, possibly spotlighting Saint Paula for 26 January 2023 - born in Rome 347, and died in Bethlehem 404, she is the patroness of widows.

    Saint Thomas Aquinas with the 28 January feast could be inferred as a Toulouse date: he died 7 March 1274, but since that date fell within Lent the calendar was revised in 1969, using the 28 January 1369 date of his remains being
    placed in the Church of Jacobins, Toulouse; from 1789 to 1974 his remains were placed in the Basilique de Sant-Sernin, also in Toulouse, before being returned to the Church of Jacobins.

    The reference to Basil the Great in VI.78 has a potential tandem solution with V.83, the ecumenical rivalry with Saints John Chrysostom and Gregory the Theologian over which was greatest culminating in the 5 October 1084 dream of
    Saint John Mauropous whereby their spiritual solidarity was basis for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs instituted for 30 January, depicted by an iconic image with the three Church figures standing together, each reverently holding a Bible - 'the
    greatest at the table' recalled the divisive rivalry which had an esoteric solution. Because VI.78 presents the 30 January 2023 date as marking initial stages of a mass conversion, while V.83 has it instead as a confirmation point after three nights to
    warn of an unparalleled nation being subverted through fraud, the date is probably used as a dual-purpose aftermath checkpoint.

    Taking 12 February 2023 as the date when the Garabandal Miracle will first be witnessed leads to two timing theories: the only lunar conjunct that day is with the South Node (i.e., Tail of the Dragon) at 10:28 am CET; the placement of
    The Miracle was presumed for 13 May 2021 8:30 pm locally, coinciding with a Mercury lunar conjunct - if that evening timing is consistent, it suggests the 8:31 pm CET Sun-Vertex union, with Mars reaching Midheaven.

    *

    "When two greats saints meet,
    It is a humbling experience"
    The 23 January 2023 conjoining of Vesta and Neptune is their first union since their opposition during the 6 January 2021 Capitol insurrection.

    The lunar opposition-conjunction with the Vesta-Neptune opposition on 4 January 2021 was projected as the time for the enormous violence of X.61 at 'pike and fire'; also a schedule was developed demonstrating the long cycle for reigning
    of Saturn after its conjunction with Jupiter at the 2020 Winter Solstice until Mars entered a new sign on 6 January 2021, not realizing when calculated prior how closely that Mars Reign commencement would be synchronized with the arrival of the National
    Guard to quell the riot.

    Planetary reigning is an elusive concept, that tantalized the generation circa 1999 attempting to fathom X.72 while rejecting the requisite tools: 'Mars to reign beneficially, before and after' - but the in-between case, the Mars entry
    into Capricorn 8 September 2001, delayed by retrograde since the previous instance fell on Valentine's Day 2001, initiated the period for the 9-11 attacks (and the subsequent Mars progression coincided with passage of the defensive Patriot Act).

    Obviously if a corollary to the Vesta-Neptune opposition were sought, the 23 January 2023 timing for their union would be ideal.

    Also Saturn appears featured in a different role than the reigning for the two revolts of I.54, with a conceptual Grand Trine at the Geneva Nadir, seeming to provide the igniting spark that is immediately transferred to debase Venus
    following at the Nadir with the engulfing conflagration. The Saturnin Grand Trine is oriented in mirror-image mockery of the Venus at Nadir chart 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, considered the 'Under The Balance' reference from V.42, skewed Left instead
    of Right to about the same angle.

    Thus those who had been included 'Under The Balance' could mean the Republican House majority being decided at the equivalent time of 16 November 2022 6:47 pm EST - 'The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid - By those whom Eagal
    observed included while Under The Balance': there is no compliant interpretation involving celestial bodies positioned at the Nadir then beyond Venus, such as Mercury. It does not seem purely political, since the great fear resembles the cataclysmic
    terror, yet the extreme faction could attempt to essentially extort massive cuts to entitlement programs, presumably to support further massive tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers, using the occasion of the necessary raising of the debt limit to
    endorse national solvency in contrast to default status.

    In this sense the 19 January 2023 date for Lombardy via Saint Bassian coincides with a preliminary date for this debt limit conflict, where the Republican House might have no members relenting, while the Democrats attempt to hold strong,
    a tactic that the Speaker found untenable. Paying for national debts already incurred becomes a bargaining point for those lacking real concern for the fate of the global economy, since even publicly questioning this obligation can have serve financial
    repercussions.

    There is a House member who said his mother died during the 9-11 attacks, while she applied for a visa in 2003 declaring not having been in the US since 1999. A New Mexico case involves a candidate accused on contesting his landslide
    loss by arranging sniper attacks on the homes of officials who would not agree to overturn the results in his favor. For some winning is not the main thing but the only thing, and the thirst for power to abuse can only perhaps be quenched by a full-
    fledged authoritarian nightmare.

    The Beatles created an aesthetic dream that regressed into the remembrance of Christ's Ministry for the "Penny Lane" triumphal entry into Jerusalem phase, however a forward tangent simultaneously rendered it an afterlife experience,
    haunting the beloved childhood place recently cleansed by rain; the images for the single sleeve featured pictures from their four respective infancies, so it was including George and Ringo with John and Paul in the single concept. Proper sequencing for
    the Christian story would put the associated Sgt Pepper album after "Strawberry Fields Forever," and before "Penny Lane."
    It should not be forgotten that double A-sided single with "Penny Lane" only reached the number two spot in the charts, indicating a let-down in popularity. Dick Clark showed a group of teenagers the two promotional films, to lukewarm
    reaction. The young fans did not care much about McCartney's scooter accident leading to the moustache decision, their new personas appeared off-brand and unfamiliar. While George Martin thought "Strawberry Fields Forever" was a fantastic new direction,
    a sort of mini-symphonic creation, the at-times lethargically slowed vocal and avant-garde treatment was received as kind of a weird departure.

    Interrogating the composers towards their divulging their intentions overtly is something they would likely deliberately avoid. To do so with subliminal melodic phrases would be an admission this method of communication actually failed,
    requiring the composer to detail the note-syllable conversion, ostensibly since it was done so badly no one could ever hear it as such without having it explicitly explained. Someone else having figured out the process for themselves would probably not
    be convincing to those feeling only the original source could be trusted, rather than their own ears and intellect. A close analogy would be a magician determined to keep his tricks secret, although in this case the listener is typically unaware there
    even has been any sort of trick played upon the subconscious.

    In the horn and trumpet portions of "Penny Lane" three synonymous terms are cleverly suggested at various points: 'vendors,' 'merchants,' and 'money-changers.'

    Providing the verbal phrases that correspond with the musical performances should eliminate doubt through the self-confirming authenticity of the experience itself, however accomplishing that for each tune is a major undertaking, and
    bringing up each case to be ignorantly dismissed would not achieve cultural enlightenment.

    As for another misunderstood esoteric source, the French seer's illumination of Revelation could have us very near a cataclysm of unprecedented proportions.

    Saturnin Interval Curtailed By Venus At Ulm With Impending Vestal Union [23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST]

    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi hammer attack; the Seoul Halloween crowd crush; the Colorado Springs nightclub
    shooting; the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange; the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt; the Brazilian copycat insurrection synchronized with the Mercury solar conjunct as predicted; and the
    plane crash in Nepal into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated, with a Marseilles hint for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast.

    The 23 January 2023 date corresponds with Ulm of VIII.34 for Blessed Henry Suso, when Saturn will have a very brief post-lunar-conjunct interval, curtailed by Venus: this is a potential debasement scenario, with a Saturnin event possibly
    occurring prior to the Moon meeting Venus.

    For Geneva, using CET on 23 January 2023:

    10:24 am - Saturn lunar conjunct at 24 degrees 50 minutes Aquarius;

    10:33 am - Fortune sextile Venus at 25 degrees 22 minutes - at this point a rectangle is again evident, which for cataclysmic onset would esoterically be the Cup or Cylindrical Vessel Urn, however in the chart it is oriented at a downward
    angle, beneath the Venus-Moon-Saturn grouping.

    Provincial physical notions of a drinking vessel may not apply: simply having the formation significantly placed for Venus could plausibly be the ancient prophetic intention. The rectangular image is composed with the Sun (3 degrees 5
    minutes Aquarius), sextile the East Point (2 degrees Aries), trine Lilith (1 degree 39 minutes Leo), sextile the Vertex (1 degree 25 minutes Libra), trine the Sun to complete the form.

    11:19 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 25 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius - the horrific explosive event should have already occurred before this aspect transpires, so that the Saturnins could have endured the worst (V.24).

    A horizontally-oriented rectangular formation appears when Vesta and Neptune conjoin at 8:11 pm, with different composition: Fortune (7 minutes 37 degrees Leo), sextile Ceres (6 minutes 32 degrees Libra), trine Vertex (5 minutes 7 degrees
    Aquarius), sextile Juno-Jupiter (4 to 4.5 degrees Aries), trine Fortune to complete the form. This should be the time of the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6, although not necessarily its igniting moment.

    Both of the Corinth-Ephesus lines could be interpreted as simultaneously activated, since the Moon will be perplexity with Saturn and Venus in Aquarius, while Neptune is approaching its union with Vesta in Pisces, the other astrological '
    sea.'

    The critical time for the test of the curtailed Saturnin lunar interval theory is when Venus has its Fortune aspect -

    << 23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST / 1:33 am PST >>
    The 30 January 2023 date is likely an aftermath, given the context of V.83 and VI.78 for Basil the Great reclaimed through the Three Holy Hierarchs: the 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET Ouranos lunar conjunct could relate to the second part of
    VI.70, with the Moon 'surpassing the Heavens.'

    The critical time now seems to be the Neptune lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 8:43 am CET progressing towards the Vesta lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 9:42 am CET: during that interval of nearly an hour, Saturn will rise at the Ascendant (9:
    04 am CET), followed by Venus (9:11 am CET).

    This timing provides another Corinth-Ephesus in perplexity (III.3) opportunity, after the Neptune lunar conjunct, with the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6 possibly manifesting by its subsequent lunar union.

    There is an imperfect Rectangular Form when Venus is at the Ascendant: East Point (11 degrees 18 minutes Pisces), sextile Mercury (10 degrees 49 minutes Capricorn), trine the Vertex (16 degrees 44 minutes Virgo - this outlier distorts the
    pattern), sextile Pallas (13 degrees 11 minutes Cancer), trine the East Point to complete the form.

    More ideal Rectangular Forms appear around 5:30 am CET during this cycle, involving the Sun, Juno, Ceres and the Vertex - however Venus does not seem significantly engaged at that time of day.

    There is a brief reign for Venus 27 January 2023 3:33 am CET to 28 January 2023 11:35 pm CET; Venus reaches the Geneva Nadir as Queen 28 January 2023 2:20 am CET, with the Moon then between Chiron and Ouranos. Despite an oblong box-like
    configuration (with Ceres, East Point, Jupiter and Mars) and an inexact solar Grand Trine (using the weak Ceres-Mars trine line), it does not appear ominous compared to the 25 January 2023 9:11 am CET (3:11 am EST / 12:11 am PST) situation, because
    Saturn and Vesta are not effectively participating.

    There is a Mars solar trine coinciding with Venus at the Nadir 30 January 2023 2:20 am CET; Ceres appears to extend the trine into a Grand version, although it is about three degrees off their correspondence. A rectangular form is there,
    yet the Moon is beyond Ouranos headed for Mars, which is not indicated for this forecast. The most recent precursor that can be clearly established was the Nepal plane crash with the 15 January Lyons feast for Saint Bonitus synchronization. Taking Vienne
    for 22 January and Ulm for the 23rd could provide insight into further events prior to the major world-changing double cataclysm, which still appears imminent.
    The prophetic conundrum of the Cup filled with Divine Fury being given to Venus as Mystery Babylon could be solved by acknowledging a protracted Solar Grand Trine with Mars and Ceres noticeable over several days in late January 2023.

    The Great Urn of X.50 appears to be Solar Grand Trine with Ceres and Mars that will be of sustained duration, like the instance circa 16 November 2022 - that sort of triangular Cup configuration should also be a potential Mobile Sign for I.54,
    rotating over time in the chart orientation.

    Thus despite its technical imperfection, the persistence of the Triangular Form throughout the time of the cataclysmic disruption is the relevant factor.

    The first establishing milestone for this Urn is the Ceres solar trine at 6 degrees 45 minutes (in Libra for Ceres, Aquarius for the Sun) 27 January 2023 around 1 am CET.


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    The Bible-reader of V.83 could be Saint Vincent the Deacon with a 22 January feast: born in Huesca, Spain, Vincent served with Saint Valerius of Saragossa - his endurance of torture for refusing to surrender the holy books
    caused the conversion of his warden, however he succumbed; Vincent is the patron of vinedressers in some regions of Spain. Also having the 22 January feast are Saint Paschasius, bishop of Vienne, and Saint Victor (another candidate for the VI.70
    fulfillment), martyred in 305 with brothers Vincent and Orontios.

    *

    'A Good Friend Of Mine
    Studies The Stars...'
    VESSEL TIPPED BACK FOR SATURN-MOON-VENUS
    TO SEE GARABANDAL MIRACLE 23 JANUARY 2023

    Something extraordinary was evident examining the chart for the Venus lunar conjunct using San Sebastian de Garabandal, Spain, coordinates 23 January 2023 11:15 am CET (following the Saturn lunar conjunct at 10:24 am CET): an
    entirely new configuration for the Cylindrical Vessel rectangle, this iteration featuring the Saturn-Moon-Venus grouping in a trine with Fortune, while oriented at the uplifted open-mouth of an East Point-Ascendant solar sextile - the Vertex at the
    Descendant provides a solar trine for one long side, and Lilith is in the other trine with the united East Point and Ascendant, with Lilith sextile the Vertex to complete the rectangular form.

    It is as if the Cylindrical Vessel has been tipped back, so it can be observed in that innocuous orientation in contrast with the prior state of Venus being engulfed at the Nadir as the corner to receive the overflowing contents:
    it is amazing how quickly this subsequent configuration appears from the 19 January 2023 prodigy in Geneva charts, with only the Vertex in common among the dual participants.

    This 'Cup-Withdrawn' impression of the Fury relenting, or celestial declaration of its having been administered, appeared visually in the animated charts around 11:07 am CET; the trine of the Ascendant with Lilith degraded
    around 11:23 am CET, and the Lilith-Vertex sextile disintegrated before 11:30 am CET.

    The Venusian lunar conjunct on 23 January 2023 11:15 am CET in Garabandal should mark the time when the Miracle placed there esoterically on 31 May 2021 8:30 pm local time would become visible, if the purifying Warning event
    occurs from the Venusian-Nadir onset time in Geneva from 19 January 2023 2:12 am CET.

    The January 23 date could be Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso (VIII.34), or alternately the Rhodes of V.16 (via Saints Clement and Agathangelos) where an enduring Phantom manifests. So this otherworldly Sign foretold from The Beatles'
    Hamburg era is another facet of the impending cataclysm; the temporal synchronization of the Brasilia copy-cat coup attempt with the Mercury solar conjunction of 7 January 2023 is potentially a late-stage signal the scenario outlined is nearing its
    inevitable fulfillment.

    The mysterious Miracle, which can only be perceived after the unsettling collective Life-Review of The Preparation, should first be witnessed from

    << 23 January 2023 11:15 am CET / 5:15 am EST / 2:15 am PST >>

    Cause aviendra bien stupende et mirande
    Bien peu apres la terre tremblera

    Something quite stupendous and miraculous will arrive
    Very shortly after the world will have trembled

    [I.46]
    The 15 January 2023 crash of the twin-engine ATR 72 aircraft into the Seti Gorge of Nepal, spinning out of control, going into a nosedive and breaking apart, with at least 68 aboard dead, has manifested as the Lyons event of
    various quatrains, which is a late-stage precursor to the now-imminent major cataclysm. The date corresponds with the feast for Saint Bonitus (623-706), who was made governor of Marseilles, and died in Lyons after a pilgrimage to Rome - the related
    quatrains appear to include I.72, II.83, III.79, VIII.34, IX.68, IX.69, IX.70, X.58, and X.88.

    Du tout Marseille des habitants changee
    Course et poursuite jusqu'aupres de Lyon

    Changed for all the inhabitants of Marseilles
    Flight and pursuit followed towards Lyons

    In I.72 Bonitus being appointed governor of Marseilles is suggested as in identifying fact; the word 'course' has been translated as 'flight' from Leoni's publication circa 1960, without intending to correlate with any airplane
    incident. Bonitus dying in Lyons is another factor establishing his feast day as fateful.

    The case in II.83 is more dubious, speaking of 'heavy traffic changed' at Lyons; the second portion seems to concern the Geneva catastrophe, with the Jura mountain range and 'Swiss drizzle,' with pillage by soldiers reminiscent of
    IX.68, where Lyons is invoked as the juncture of the Rhone and Saone rivers, where evil occurs. Line 3 of III.79 has the chain broken at the port of Marseilles. The mention of Lyons in VIII.34 is isolated, inferring its details are included elsewhere.

    Outre Lyon, Vien eux si grande grele

    Beyond Lyons, great hail upon them at Vienne

    The sequence in line 3 of IX.69 has the Lyons date preceding the Apocalyptic hail shortly following at Vienne: making 15 January Lyons via Saint Bonitus renders the 22 January date as Vienne via Saint Paschasius. The physical
    violence of the disaster appears linked with Vienne in line 3 of IX.70 -

    Ceux de Vienne seront trestous haches
    Those of Vienne will all be hacked apart

    The second half of X.58 features the Marseilles hint again:

    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Tenter Phossens au Ponant entretien

    Gaul to be shaken, to imperil the Bark
    Marseilles to be tried at the Western entreaty

    Gaul is now being presumed for 21 January 2023 via Saint Patroclus of Troyes; the Bark of Saint Peter is the Roman Catholic papacy. The Western entreaty implies some new effort to peacefully resolve the Russian invasion of Ukraine
    ongoing conflict, close to 15 January 2023.

    There seems to be a double prophecy in X.88, where the first half concerned the EgyptAir 990 crash of 31 October 1999, which also involved an aircraft broken in half (as 'Foot and Horse'), taking off from New York City yet
    destined to crash in the ocean nearby ('They will make an entry into the sea devastating all'), giving the correct time of day as 'the second watch.' Notice the phrasing of line 3 -

    Dedans le poil entrera de Marseille

    The word 'poil' should mean hair, or 'bristle' - 'Seti' (the name of the Nepalese Gorge) in Latin also transliterates into 'bristle': so the French seer has acknowledged the unfortunate ultimate destination of Seti Gorge for the
    flight on the 15 January 2023 Marseilles date.

    The final line of X.88 could regard the major cataclysm that shortly follows the crash into Seti Gorge -

    Pleurs, cris, et sang, onc nul temps si amer

    Tears, cries, and blood - never were times so bitter

    There is ambiguity whether the subject was still the plane disaster.

    *

    Trying to explain The Beatles' success as some evil aberration that had to involve some bargain with dark forces is a desperate and ignorant attempt to evade the true challenge posed by Jesus, which was to recognize the time of
    angelic visitation, and perceive what was being offered on a subliminal level, so that the Remembrance of Him could be the springboard to Salvation. As reiterated from Isaiah, merely seeing and hearing in the normal mode is an inadequate approach to
    attain the insights that would affect the required spiritual conversion.

    The Beatles returning from Hamburg received an unexpected reaction because the British crowds thought they were German, with the new sound developed from onstage performances. The screaming began later in Glasgow, but became the
    normal reaction at their concerts without any deliberate direction. From various interviews the group members conveyed a sense of hypocrisy in religious institutions, so that reprocessing the message of Christianity into a sound format could have been
    their test for society.

    The extraordinary popularity they enjoyed was met by McCartney-Lennon proclaiming they had discovered the 'formula' for writing hit songs, without elaborating that fans were likely to be experiencing transference, the subconscious
    messages inducing confusion between the story of Jesus, and the Foursome all attempting to retell it while projecting themselves as aspiring to be Christ-like. That is likely why there was no single 'Horseman' selected to represent Jesus riding into
    Jerusalem in the "Penny Lane" promotional film: all Four wanted to assume the Messianic role simultaneously, asserting their Faith collectively without self-explanatory fanfare.
    Numerous Lyons references could be applied to the recent plane crash in Nepal: IX.68 commences three consecutive related quatrains, as the first report of retrieved bodies was 68, with a 69th found in Seti River Monday evening, then
    the 70th at the crash site early Tuesday, before the final accounting was made to 72. There is an interesting transliteration in X.88 of 'poil' meaning 'bristle' (like hair) with Seti, which in Latin means 'bristle.'

    The 15 January 2023 Nepal plane crash being a Lyons event, as precursor for the cataclysm presumed for the 22 January 2023 Vienne date, skips over the 19 January 2023 case for Venus at the Nadir in Geneva. The 'Ulm' of VIII.34 being
    solved for the honoring of Blessed Henry Suso on 23 January is nearly conclusive, with a mention of Lyons preceding to reinforce the sequencing. About a week beyond Lyons is Vienne-Ulm. A new Rhodes date for V.16 would be 12 February 2023, for Venerable
    Meletios of Ypseni.

    The recent Juno Reign could still be the conditions for X.17, despite a subsequent Lilith Reign being terminated by the solar advance into Aquarius - a new Lilith Reign commences 21 January 2023 8:51 pm CET, which will end more than
    two weeks later when Vesta enters Aries 8 February 2023 5:44 am CET. No longer searching for the circumstances that have been previously observed (such as Corinth-Ephesus correlations from 2 November 2022 and 10 January 2023), the parameters have neatly
    narrowed, with some lines taken for real-world predictions rather than hints for the judicial astrology. So certain lines should be reapplied, with their placement in the jigsaw Time Puzzle becoming clearer towards the catastrophic onset.

    The New Moon occurs at 1 degree 32 minutes Aquarius 21 January 2023 9:53 pm CET, presenting the Sun and Moon together for the V.66 prelude to the 'glittering metals' incident.

    Venus at the Nadir for Geneva 22 January 2023 2:15 am CET has a chart with Pluto, the Sun and the Moon as a nearly equidistant grouping, without a definitively ominous appearance.

    A major transition occurs with the Venus-Saturn conjunct at 24 degrees 47 minutes Aquarius 22 January 2023 11:05 pm CET, since the celestial bodies become transposed: the next day, Saturn will reach the Nadir slightly ahead of Venus.


    Saturn at the Nadir for Geneva 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET is at the fulcrum point (24 degrees 48 minutes Aquarius) of an Inverted Grand Trine with conceptual points Fortune (25 degrees 36 minutes Libra) and the Vertex (21 degrees
    58 minutes Gemini). This 'Balance' impression also appears to be the Apocalyptic Cup or Urn, tipping towards the left as the Midheaven is skewed, forming the Crest of a Pediment with Fortune and the Vertex. In this way Venus very near Saturn is both
    debased at the Nadir (a minute later at 2:16 am CET), and perceived as receiving the Saturnin Cup.

    The critical time would be -

    << 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET / 22 January 2023 8:15 pm EST / 5:15 pm PST >>

    The Grand Trine and Pediment together present a Kite configuration, tipping leftward at the top; the fateful observation with Venus at the Nadir 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET had the Sun-Lilith-Neptune Inverted Grand Trine tipped
    towards the right at the top. In the 23 January 2023 case, a cylindrical form overlaps the Grand Trine, however it is broken: Ascendant (12.5 degrees Scorpio) sextile Mercury (9 degrees 23 minutes Capricorn) is somewhat weak; Mercury trine the Node (9
    degrees 2 minutes Taurus) is strong; the Node is about six degrees from Ouranos (near 15 degrees Taurus), which is in a sextile aspect with Pallas (13 degrees 46 minutes Cancer); and Pallas is in a trine with the Ascendant - however the rectangular
    pattern being broken renders the form technically inconsequential.

    The 'Vesta sepulchral fire' phrasing from X.6 should regard its conjoining with Neptune 23 January 2023 8:11 pm CET - when Vesta and Neptune meet at 23 degrees 21 minutes Pisces, a clear rectangular form appears aligned horizontally
    in parallel with the Ecliptic: Fortune (7 degrees 37 minutes Leo) sextile Ceres (6 degrees 32 minutes Libra) trine the Vertex (in solar proximity at 5 degrees 7 minutes Aquarius), whose conceptual point is in a sextile aspect with the pairing of Juno-
    Jupiter (4.5 to 5 degrees Aries), which is roughly in a trine with the Part of Fortune to complete the rectangular form. The Moon and Saturn-Venus will then be slightly below the Descendant.

    This horizontal Box suggests the rectangles previously observed were leading towards this coffin-like manifestation coinciding with the Vesta-Neptune conjunct, rather than representing 'Cylindrical Vessels.' The chronology of IV.58
    implies the 18 December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine as the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' and the Trinity concept being subverted for divine retribution via a particular Grand Trine was a hidden theme from V.18.

    Some January hagiological associations already made could be seen as valid in retrospect: 16 January as Lorraine via Saint Honoratus of Arles; the 19th as Lombardy via Saint Bassian - and Smyrna-Myrrh through Saint Germanicus for
    the Magi Gift Attack theme; the 21st as Gaul via Saint Patroclus; the 22nd as Vienne with Saint Paschasius; the 23rd as Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso.

    For 24 January, Saint Francis de Sales had a connection to Geneva.

    The Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 remains a mystery, possibly spotlighting Saint Paula for 26 January 2023 - born in Rome 347, and died in Bethlehem 404, she is the patroness of widows.

    Saint Thomas Aquinas with the 28 January feast could be inferred as a Toulouse date: he died 7 March 1274, but since that date fell within Lent the calendar was revised in 1969, using the 28 January 1369 date of his remains being
    placed in the Church of Jacobins, Toulouse; from 1789 to 1974 his remains were placed in the Basilique de Sant-Sernin, also in Toulouse, before being returned to the Church of Jacobins.

    The reference to Basil the Great in VI.78 has a potential tandem solution with V.83, the ecumenical rivalry with Saints John Chrysostom and Gregory the Theologian over which was greatest culminating in the 5 October 1084 dream of
    Saint John Mauropous whereby their spiritual solidarity was basis for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs instituted for 30 January, depicted by an iconic image with the three Church figures standing together, each reverently holding a Bible - 'the
    greatest at the table' recalled the divisive rivalry which had an esoteric solution. Because VI.78 presents the 30 January 2023 date as marking initial stages of a mass conversion, while V.83 has it instead as a confirmation point after three nights to
    warn of an unparalleled nation being subverted through fraud, the date is probably used as a dual-purpose aftermath checkpoint.

    Taking 12 February 2023 as the date when the Garabandal Miracle will first be witnessed leads to two timing theories: the only lunar conjunct that day is with the South Node (i.e., Tail of the Dragon) at 10:28 am CET; the placement
    of The Miracle was presumed for 13 May 2021 8:30 pm locally, coinciding with a Mercury lunar conjunct - if that evening timing is consistent, it suggests the 8:31 pm CET Sun-Vertex union, with Mars reaching Midheaven.

    *

    "When two greats saints meet,
    It is a humbling experience"
    The 23 January 2023 conjoining of Vesta and Neptune is their first union since their opposition during the 6 January 2021 Capitol insurrection.

    The lunar opposition-conjunction with the Vesta-Neptune opposition on 4 January 2021 was projected as the time for the enormous violence of X.61 at 'pike and fire'; also a schedule was developed demonstrating the long cycle for
    reigning of Saturn after its conjunction with Jupiter at the 2020 Winter Solstice until Mars entered a new sign on 6 January 2021, not realizing when calculated prior how closely that Mars Reign commencement would be synchronized with the arrival of the
    National Guard to quell the riot.

    Planetary reigning is an elusive concept, that tantalized the generation circa 1999 attempting to fathom X.72 while rejecting the requisite tools: 'Mars to reign beneficially, before and after' - but the in-between case, the Mars
    entry into Capricorn 8 September 2001, delayed by retrograde since the previous instance fell on Valentine's Day 2001, initiated the period for the 9-11 attacks (and the subsequent Mars progression coincided with passage of the defensive Patriot Act).

    Obviously if a corollary to the Vesta-Neptune opposition were sought, the 23 January 2023 timing for their union would be ideal.

    Also Saturn appears featured in a different role than the reigning for the two revolts of I.54, with a conceptual Grand Trine at the Geneva Nadir, seeming to provide the igniting spark that is immediately transferred to debase Venus
    following at the Nadir with the engulfing conflagration. The Saturnin Grand Trine is oriented in mirror-image mockery of the Venus at Nadir chart 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, considered the 'Under The Balance' reference from V.42, skewed Left instead
    of Right to about the same angle.

    Thus those who had been included 'Under The Balance' could mean the Republican House majority being decided at the equivalent time of 16 November 2022 6:47 pm EST - 'The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid - By those whom
    Eagal observed included while Under The Balance': there is no compliant interpretation involving celestial bodies positioned at the Nadir then beyond Venus, such as Mercury. It does not seem purely political, since the great fear resembles the
    cataclysmic terror, yet the extreme faction could attempt to essentially extort massive cuts to entitlement programs, presumably to support further massive tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers, using the occasion of the necessary raising of the debt
    limit to endorse national solvency in contrast to default status.

    In this sense the 19 January 2023 date for Lombardy via Saint Bassian coincides with a preliminary date for this debt limit conflict, where the Republican House might have no members relenting, while the Democrats attempt to hold
    strong, a tactic that the Speaker found untenable. Paying for national debts already incurred becomes a bargaining point for those lacking real concern for the fate of the global economy, since even publicly questioning this obligation can have serve
    financial repercussions.

    There is a House member who said his mother died during the 9-11 attacks, while she applied for a visa in 2003 declaring not having been in the US since 1999. A New Mexico case involves a candidate accused on contesting his landslide
    loss by arranging sniper attacks on the homes of officials who would not agree to overturn the results in his favor. For some winning is not the main thing but the only thing, and the thirst for power to abuse can only perhaps be quenched by a full-
    fledged authoritarian nightmare.

    The Beatles created an aesthetic dream that regressed into the remembrance of Christ's Ministry for the "Penny Lane" triumphal entry into Jerusalem phase, however a forward tangent simultaneously rendered it an afterlife experience,
    haunting the beloved childhood place recently cleansed by rain; the images for the single sleeve featured pictures from their four respective infancies, so it was including George and Ringo with John and Paul in the single concept. Proper sequencing for
    the Christian story would put the associated Sgt Pepper album after "Strawberry Fields Forever," and before "Penny Lane."
    It should not be forgotten that double A-sided single with "Penny Lane" only reached the number two spot in the charts, indicating a let-down in popularity. Dick Clark showed a group of teenagers the two promotional films, to lukewarm
    reaction. The young fans did not care much about McCartney's scooter accident leading to the moustache decision, their new personas appeared off-brand and unfamiliar. While George Martin thought "Strawberry Fields Forever" was a fantastic new direction,
    a sort of mini-symphonic creation, the at-times lethargically slowed vocal and avant-garde treatment was received as kind of a weird departure.

    Interrogating the composers towards their divulging their intentions overtly is something they would likely deliberately avoid. To do so with subliminal melodic phrases would be an admission this method of communication actually failed,
    requiring the composer to detail the note-syllable conversion, ostensibly since it was done so badly no one could ever hear it as such without having it explicitly explained. Someone else having figured out the process for themselves would probably not
    be convincing to those feeling only the original source could be trusted, rather than their own ears and intellect. A close analogy would be a magician determined to keep his tricks secret, although in this case the listener is typically unaware there
    even has been any sort of trick played upon the subconscious.

    In the horn and trumpet portions of "Penny Lane" three synonymous terms are cleverly suggested at various points: 'vendors,' 'merchants,' and 'money-changers.'

    Providing the verbal phrases that correspond with the musical performances should eliminate doubt through the self-confirming authenticity of the experience itself, however accomplishing that for each tune is a major undertaking, and
    bringing up each case to be ignorantly dismissed would not achieve cultural enlightenment.

    As for another misunderstood esoteric source, the French seer's illumination of Revelation could have us very near a cataclysm of unprecedented proportions.

    Saturnin Interval Curtailed By Venus At Ulm With Impending Vestal Union [23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST]

    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi hammer attack; the Seoul Halloween crowd crush; the Colorado Springs nightclub
    shooting; the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange; the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt; the Brazilian copycat insurrection synchronized with the Mercury solar conjunct as predicted; and the
    plane crash in Nepal into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated, with a Marseilles hint for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast.

    The 23 January 2023 date corresponds with Ulm of VIII.34 for Blessed Henry Suso, when Saturn will have a very brief post-lunar-conjunct interval, curtailed by Venus: this is a potential debasement scenario, with a Saturnin event
    possibly occurring prior to the Moon meeting Venus.

    For Geneva, using CET on 23 January 2023:

    10:24 am - Saturn lunar conjunct at 24 degrees 50 minutes Aquarius;

    10:33 am - Fortune sextile Venus at 25 degrees 22 minutes - at this point a rectangle is again evident, which for cataclysmic onset would esoterically be the Cup or Cylindrical Vessel Urn, however in the chart it is oriented at a
    downward angle, beneath the Venus-Moon-Saturn grouping.

    Provincial physical notions of a drinking vessel may not apply: simply having the formation significantly placed for Venus could plausibly be the ancient prophetic intention. The rectangular image is composed with the Sun (3 degrees 5
    minutes Aquarius), sextile the East Point (2 degrees Aries), trine Lilith (1 degree 39 minutes Leo), sextile the Vertex (1 degree 25 minutes Libra), trine the Sun to complete the form.

    11:19 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 25 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius - the horrific explosive event should have already occurred before this aspect transpires, so that the Saturnins could have endured the worst (V.24).

    A horizontally-oriented rectangular formation appears when Vesta and Neptune conjoin at 8:11 pm, with different composition: Fortune (7 minutes 37 degrees Leo), sextile Ceres (6 minutes 32 degrees Libra), trine Vertex (5 minutes 7
    degrees Aquarius), sextile Juno-Jupiter (4 to 4.5 degrees Aries), trine Fortune to complete the form. This should be the time of the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6, although not necessarily its igniting moment.

    Both of the Corinth-Ephesus lines could be interpreted as simultaneously activated, since the Moon will be perplexity with Saturn and Venus in Aquarius, while Neptune is approaching its union with Vesta in Pisces, the other astrological
    'sea.'

    The critical time for the test of the curtailed Saturnin lunar interval theory is when Venus has its Fortune aspect -

    << 23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST / 1:33 am PST >>
    The 30 January 2023 date is likely an aftermath, given the context of V.83 and VI.78 for Basil the Great reclaimed through the Three Holy Hierarchs: the 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET Ouranos lunar conjunct could relate to the second part of
    VI.70, with the Moon 'surpassing the Heavens.'

    The critical time now seems to be the Neptune lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 8:43 am CET progressing towards the Vesta lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 9:42 am CET: during that interval of nearly an hour, Saturn will rise at the Ascendant (
    9:04 am CET), followed by Venus (9:11 am CET).

    This timing provides another Corinth-Ephesus in perplexity (III.3) opportunity, after the Neptune lunar conjunct, with the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6 possibly manifesting by its subsequent lunar union.

    There is an imperfect Rectangular Form when Venus is at the Ascendant: East Point (11 degrees 18 minutes Pisces), sextile Mercury (10 degrees 49 minutes Capricorn), trine the Vertex (16 degrees 44 minutes Virgo - this outlier distorts the
    pattern), sextile Pallas (13 degrees 11 minutes Cancer), trine the East Point to complete the form.

    More ideal Rectangular Forms appear around 5:30 am CET during this cycle, involving the Sun, Juno, Ceres and the Vertex - however Venus does not seem significantly engaged at that time of day.

    There is a brief reign for Venus 27 January 2023 3:33 am CET to 28 January 2023 11:35 pm CET; Venus reaches the Geneva Nadir as Queen 28 January 2023 2:20 am CET, with the Moon then between Chiron and Ouranos. Despite an oblong box-like
    configuration (with Ceres, East Point, Jupiter and Mars) and an inexact solar Grand Trine (using the weak Ceres-Mars trine line), it does not appear ominous compared to the 25 January 2023 9:11 am CET (3:11 am EST / 12:11 am PST) situation, because
    Saturn and Vesta are not effectively participating.

    There is a Mars solar trine coinciding with Venus at the Nadir 30 January 2023 2:20 am CET; Ceres appears to extend the trine into a Grand version, although it is about three degrees off their correspondence. A rectangular form is there,
    yet the Moon is beyond Ouranos headed for Mars, which is not indicated for this forecast. The most recent precursor that can be clearly established was the Nepal plane crash with the 15 January Lyons feast for Saint Bonitus synchronization. Taking Vienne
    for 22 January and Ulm for the 23rd could provide insight into further events prior to the major world-changing double cataclysm, which still appears imminent.

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    The Cup-Bearer falsifying in VI.89 signifies a wrong date, as following the widow and Virgin clue to 11 February, rather than a choice between Grand Trines on a specific date.

    The V.18 phrase 'son Vitrix' interpreted for 'Sans-Vertex' infers by reverse corollary 'Vertex-Without,' a situation where the Vertex is occupied outside the Grand Trine pattern, rather than negatively asserting an inactive non-role.

    A Lombardy feast recurrence should coincide: Saint Juventius, bishop of Pavia, is honored on 12 February; and Blessed Jordan of Saxony was prior-provincial of the Order of Preachers in Lombardy circa 1221 - in 1237 Jordan during a pilgrimage
    to the Holy Land drowned in a shipwreck off the coast of Syria - he has a feast on 13 February.

    For Geneva on 13 February 2023 using CET:

    1 am - Mercury exceeds the locational value of Vesta, thus commencing a Vestal Reign to last until the Sun enters Pisces (18 February 2023 11:35 pm CET);

    3:49 pm - Neptune lunar trine - a possible condition for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3;

    5:01 pm - Solar-Lunar square aspect - recalling 'Sol et Lune' from V.66;

    5:53 pm - Dusk brings a maximum jump for Fortune (II.66), from the top of the chart to the lunar position at the bottom;

    6:07 pm - Saturn falling commences the Saturnin interval;

    6:39 to 6:48 pm - Grand Trine consisting of Lilith (4 degrees 3 minutes Leo), Vesta (2 degrees 26 minutes Aries), and the Part of Fortune (moving between both relative locations in Sagittarius, oriented at the bottom of the chart) - the fiery
    nature of Vesta and the Wind Succubus Lilith suggest this Chalice portends ill-Fortune;

    6:43 pm - Mercury conjoined by the Vertex, in rough opposition with Lilith, and Fortune sextile the Vertex - this extraneous Vertex activity outside the concurrent Grand Trine formation could satisfy V.18, for the critical time in the
    Saturnin interval -

    << 13 February 2023 6:43 pm CET / 12:43 pm EST / 9:43 am PST >>;

    8:19 pm - Venus falls at the Descendant, with Fortune at the Nadir;

    8:30 pm - Neptune falls;

    9:15 pm - Vesta at the Descendant in a rectangular formation with the Ascendant, Lilith and Mercury (Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6);

    9:52 pm - Saturn lunar square.

    The perplexity in this application would regard the Neptune lunar trine, rather than Neptune falling local to Geneva; the next lunar aspect with the Sun as a square would be the prevalent condition for the glittering metals event, as in V.66.

    Both the Saturnin interval upon local descent and the subsequent Saturn lunar square could be the subjects of different lines, with context clarifying some ambiguity.
    Post-Vertex Saturnin Chalice To Vex Paternal Amours {14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST}

    The August 1999 Izmit quake was an early major event conjectured prior to occurrence, although the location being named in V.54 as Bisance for Byzantium was not integrated substantively into the awareness of the Cassini spacecraft gravity
    assist engaging during the Earth-flyby (the quake preceding by 20.5 hours) through cross-referencing a set of quatrains. The line of totality for the August 1999 solar eclipse during a Fixed Grand Cross was the transpiercing King in V.54, crossing the
    Black Sea and leaving Byzantium bloody. Also the final line of V.86 depicted the quake as Byzantium crushed by the head of Persia.

    I could sense the sibling quakes of 6 February 2023, striking instead the Turkish border with Syria, as reflected in VI.82, 89, and II.92 line 3, would have a similar high death toll ultimately - and the same story of weakly designed structures
    has emerged. Rescue efforts could trigger avalanches of debris; miners were devising tunnels to assist those operations. The Turkish reference in IV.58 was for 7 December 2022 via hagiology, for timing of the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange. The Turkey-
    Syria border quakes comprise the first stage of the Nephew prophecy (via saintly nephews of Saint Patrick), for Blood, with the second Nephew stage through Fear emerging later.

    The first week of the year had the Speakership debacle foretold in the final line of II.92 using Saint Telemachus; the Mercury solar conjunct of 7 January 2023 attended the beating of Tyre Nichols for the Memphis incitement of X.79; the next
    day the Brasilia insurrection presented the flowering of Hercules' lies, and the people trapped from exiting the presidential palace from II.66. The Nepal plane crash on 15 January 2023 complied with the Lyons-Marseilles encoded event; the Half Moon Bay
    shooting was on the Ulm day of 23 January for Blessed Henry Suso as in VIII.34. Each quatrain case carries its own set of messages, with complex logical intersections.

    The Victor comparison between IV.95 and VI.70 recalls the Big Victor character played by Victor Mature in the 1968 group-ending film "Head" by The Monkees, when their television show had been cancelled, as an inside-joke mocking their RCA
    corporate taskmasters, continuing the extremely subtle pop culture theme that recently surfaced in the prophecies.

    https://www.neatorama.com/2012/02/16/head-the-monkees-strange-movie/

    The Magi Gift Attack theme for the cataclysmic onset in II.92 (fire color of Gold), V.16 (smoke like Frankincense), and VIII.34 (injury and tomb both calling for Myrrh) thus seems to co-exist for this apparent finale to the sequence.

    The 13 February 2023 2023 6:45 pm CET Grand Trine of Lilith-Vesta-Fortune was decidedly not 'Sans-Vertex' ('son vitrix') to satisfy the secret hint in V.18, since Mercury in opposition with triangle point Lilith was conspicuously conjoined by
    the Vertex: thus it could be the falsifying Cupbearer of VI.89, approaching the true Chalice of Divine Fury.

    The Vestal Reign will last until 18 February 2023, however the conditions for the descending celestial lineup being considered for Geneva will transition more quickly: as John Lennon explained of his famous group's demise, 'Wedding Bells are
    breaking up that old gang of mine.' First Venus and Neptune through their conjunction will effectively 'switch places' 15 February 2023 :30 pm CET; then the Sun will overtake Saturn 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET. These two changes alter the current
    compliance, as though backing the prophecy into a corner.

    A daily recurring Grand Trine involving the Midheaven point with Mercury and Ceres asserts itself on the evening of 14 February 2023, the Valentine's Day date corresponding with the 'fatherly amours' vexed in VI.89, on the final evening when
    the participants descending as V.65 suggests will have their ominous potential.

    For Geneva on 14 February 2023 using CET:

    5:55 pm - Dusk brings a jump of Fortune to about 26 degrees from the lunar position;

    6:04 pm - Saturn falling commences the fateful Saturnin interval;

    7:09 to 7:17 pm CET - Grand Trine of Mercury (4.5 degrees Aquarius) with Ceres (6.5 degrees Libra) and Midheaven (reaching 5.5 degrees Gemini 7:12 pm CET), the Vertex around 15 degrees Aquarius forms a weak trine with Mars in Gemini, and a weak
    sextile with Juno in Aries (so the Grand Trine does not seem significantly in an aspect with the Vertex), rendering the critical time -

    << 14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST / 10:12 am PST >>

    - while not yet overtaken by the skewed Nadir, the Moon then appears at the bottom of the chart;

    8:21 pm - Venus descends, presumably in the wake of the cataclysmic onset, thus being debased for X.28, with Fortune nearing the Moon;

    8:26 pm - Neptune at the Descendant simultaneous with the Part of Fortune reaching the Moon, thereby presenting the III.3 perplexity for Neptunian Corinth and lunar Ephesus;

    9:13 pm - Vesta reaching the Descendant is again in a rectangular formation with Mercury, Lilith, and the East Point, providing a visual fulfillment for the 'Vesta sepulchral fire' of X.6.

    The following evening a similar upright Grand Trine forms, yet it would be Neptune facing the debasing descent instead of Venus.

    The Saturn solar conjunct for Geneva 16 February 2023 will coincide with Dusk at 5:55 pm CET.

    The Vertex seems equally uninvolved with all three versions of the Midheaven-Mercury-Ceres Grand Trine on the three consecutive evenings 14 through 16 February 2023, yet only the Valentine's Day version bears the conditions given as ominous.
    The currently-daily Midheaven Grand Trine with Mercury and Ceres was probably not intended for the activating Chalice, but the slightly later Grand Trine where Fortune in Sagittarius passes between the relative locations of Lilith past 4 degrees
    Leo and Vesta nearing 3 degrees Aries - that is an isolated triple correspondence in the Fire signs for Geneva 14 February 2023 7:49 pm to 7:55 pm CET [1:49 to 1:55 pm EST] omitted in error.
    Vestal Chalice For Venusian Nadir, Then Corinth & Ephesus Found In Axis {15 February 2023 2:33 am CET / 14 February 2023 8:33 pm EST / 5:33 pm PST}

    The requisite conditions in judicial astrology and emergent disastrous precursors have not failed in establishing an intricate trail towards an ultimate double cataclysm whose inevitability appears manifest - the cryptic veracity of the French
    prophecies allow some limited pre-event awareness, which should be refined, if only to facilitate post-mortem acknowledgement. Several major news events since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse have been featured as precursors, incorporating precise
    details beyond random happenings (the serial posting here should demonstrate some elaborations).

    The immense fatalities from the sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border 6 February 2023 occurred on the feast for two nephews of Saint Patrick, enacting II.92 line 3 - 'Great human murder, taken from the Great Nephew'; the situations in VI.82
    and 89 match, and a complicated comparison between this Nephew of Blood and a later Nephew emerging through Fear appears in the process of current fulfillment.

    Viewing the chart for Geneva's Venusian Nadir 15 February 2023 2:33 am CET showed yet another Grand Trine, then with the Ascendant joining Lilith and Vesta: since Venus is in the debasing Nadir position, this instance is particularly ominous.

    Also because Neptune is close to conjoining Venus, when it is at the Nadir two minutes later at 2:35 am CET, at the base of the skewed Prime Vertical, it complements at an oblique angle the Moon nearing opposition with Mars, with the two appearing
    aligned slightly off the Ecliptic. The Mars lunar opposition technically takes place later that morning at 3:05 am CET, yet the rough impression exists in the earlier charts.

    So two minutes after the potential Venusian debasement cataclysmic onset, Neptune and the Moon separately define a dual-axis correspondence for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity from III.3.

    Venus reaching the Nadir ends the Saturnin interval; and the Vestal Reign culminates in the fateful Grand Trine with Lilith and the Ascendant - it takes 'three to tango' in forming the Chalice.

    The Vertex around 16 degrees Cancer has no aspects involving or competing significantly with the transitory Chalice Grand Trine.

    The principal celestial bodies are then beneath the Ecliptic, excluding Mars near the Descendant: Ceres, Lilith and Pallas share the overhead Vault, compliant with V.65 stipulating Vesta herself would not be visible.

    Since the Ascendant is involved, the Grand Trine points towards the Left, rather than appearing like a Balance, or moving in rotation.
    Saturnin Cup Debases Queen Venus In Lunar Temple [22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST]

    The temporal separation between the 6 February 2023 sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border and the cataclysmic onset is slightly more extensive than presumed, accepting the Vienne date as 22 February 2023 for Saint Paschasius, bishop of Vienne,
    who was granted supremacy over seven provinces by Pope Sylvester I circa 322. Two Lombardy dates are adjacent: Saint Peter Damian with a 21 February feast was legate to Milan for Pope Nicholas II circa 1059; and Blessed Anselm of Milan was a friar whose
    body was enshrined in the church of Santa Maria della Pace after his death in 1481.

    The Magi Gift Attack theme acquires the necessary date of a saint associated with myrrh via Saint Polycarp, bishop of Smyrna (the location known for myrrh), who was to be burned alive in a stadium circa 155, assuring his executioners there was no
    need to nail him to the pyre: from a witness account, "Like a ship's sail swirling in the wind, the flame became as it were a dome encircling the martyr's body. Surrounded by the fire, his body was like a bread that is baked, or gold and silver white-hot
    in a furnace, not like flesh that has been burnt. So sweet a fragrance came to us that it was like that of burning incense, or some other costly and sweet-smelling gum." So the saint associated with the Myrrh location set aflame exhibited the properties
    of the gummy substance, although Polycarp did not perish by the fire.

    Perceiving Polycarp to be unharmed, the execution proceeded using a dagger to stab him to death, then his corpse was burned.

    "'I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire'"
    {Revelation 3:18}

    Both Blessed Anselm of Milan and Saint Polycarp share the 23 February feast day.

    Other prophetic references become clear around these dates.

    The feast of the Chair of Saint Peter is 22 February, commemorating the founding of the See of Antioch; the Roman celebration also included 18 February. Both Masses include the same 'Collect': "O God, who, together with the power of the keys of the
    Kingdom of Heaven, didst bestow on blessed Peter Thy Apostle the pontificate of binding and loosing, grant that by the aid of his intersection we may be released from the yoke of our sins."
    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Gaul to shake, the Bark to become imperiled

    Line 3 of X.58 could be presenting two references for 22 February 2023, Gaul and Vienne being for Saint Paschasius, and the Bark indicating not the current papacy at Rome, but the feast for the Chair of Saint Peter.

    About a hundred Grand Trines were examined from 16 to 25 February 2023, discovering some anomalies. A Double Grand Trine oriented like the Star of David was found for Geneva charts 17 February 2023, without the requisite ominous conditions; for the
    afternoon of 21 February 2023, Fortune and the Vertex moved in trine-alignment to form successive Grand Trines with several celestial bodies (the Moon, Neptune, Venus, Vesta, Jupiter, Chiron and Juno).

    The Part of Fortune is clearly hinted in II.66, and the Vertex (as near-anagram Vitrix) in V.18, where 'son vitrix' works translated as 'his Vertex' for Trinitarian co-founder Saint Felix of Valois. The suggestion from V.65 of principals in the
    affair being hidden could relate to the unseen conceptual points: Vesta as the lady on coals no longer being visible speaks to atmospheric changes rendering the overhead Vault obscured.

    The veil seemed lifted on the pivotal contribution of Saturn when it was realized the ringed planet was involved in only one Grand Trine during the interval examined - and it emerged as a variation on the post-Full Super Moon 16 July 2022 2:06 am
    CEST condition compliant with IV.31, however no longer with the Moon near Saturn. The previous Saturnin Grand Trine was on the false-Midheaven Apex of the Eleventh House cusp: its base has Venus on one side, and the merging of Fortune and the Vertex on
    the other. The new Saturnin Grand Trine occurs 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET, with the base having the Vertex on one side, and Fortune on the other.

    Thus the lunar conjunctions could be separated for Neptune, presenting the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3, and the Vestal sepulchral fire of X.6: the Moon would be passing Venus for the catastrophe to debase her specifically.

    A Venusian Reign starts by entering Aries 20 February 2023 8:56 am CET, and ends when exceeding the relative location of Lilith, 24 February 2023 4:07 pm CET. Venus as Mystery Babylon from Revelation receives her Cup of divine wrath while sitting as
    Queen, rejecting The Great Mourning for Jesus Christ, while asserting (quite accurately of herself as representing modern culture) that she is no widow who might feel such emotional grief.

    The Neptune lunar conjunction occurs 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET at 24 degrees 17 minutes Pisces.

    For Geneva on 22 February 2023 using CET:

    10:26 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 2 degrees 32 minutes Aries;

    10:47 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Apex at false Midheaven on Eleventh House cusp (28 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius), base consisting of Fortune (28 degrees 44 minutes Gemini) and the Vertex (26 degrees 47 minutes Libra), and the East Point
    separately merged with the Node - this is the critical time for cataclysmic onset -

    << 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST / 1:47 am PST >>;

    12:07 pm - Pisces Sun and Aries Moon adjacent at 3 degrees 33 minutes - 'De Sol et Lune' ('With Sun and Moon') from V.66;

    4:52 pm - Vesta lunar conjunct at 6 degrees 24 minutes Aries.

    The final line of V.66 skips ahead to the hybrid solar eclipse of 20 April 2023, visible for Indonesia and Australia: the date coincides with the feast for Saint Servilian, a Trajan martyr beheaded in Rome circa 117.
    Ardente lampe Traian d'or burine
    Burning lamp engraved with Trajan gold

    *

    '...When He Entered
    Through The Gate
    Of Jerusalem..'
    The ringed sports trophy in the foreground of the Sgt Pepper tableau cover image suggests planet Saturn in a warped way, perhaps disclosing intentional references to the Solar System: the jovial circus song aligned with Jupiter energy ending Side One
    was resumed with the long, slow sad song as George Harrison's compositional contribution, immersed in a saturnine tone that was supposedly relieved with deliberate laughter in the outro.

    The similarity of the two Geneva Saturnin Upright Grand Trines suggests the 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST post-Full Super Moon version (IV.31) was the falsifying Cupbearer from the final line of VI.89, with the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET variation
    presenting the Chalice that is drained: its orientation simultaneously recalls the Trinity and the Cup activated by being overturned or inverted.

    The 18 December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine matches the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' because it shifted immediately into a reconstituted version as Fortune proceeded, however this successive pair of Fortune Grand Trines was
    preceeded by the actual 'Chief Pail Of Water,' meaning a Saturnin Grand Trine. When Saturn passed Midheaven in Aquarius 4:22 pm CET, it was in a Grand Trine with the Libran Moon and the Ascendant in Gemini; the Offspring Successive Grand Trines followed
    around 5:35 pm and 6:05 pm CET respectively, as the 'son led in spinning.' The chronology was established by the final line setting the release of Griner as the female captive conducted to freedom through the prior 7 December 2022 association with
    Antioch via hagiology.

    Likewise the Surprise Grand Trine emerging when Fortune has its leap at Dusk 13 December 2022 4:45 pm CET as Saturnin, since Fortune was with Saturn at Midheaven before jumping to the position for a Saturnin-Ascendant-Fortune Grand Trine.

    Dans bois caches soldats jour de Lucie
    Qui ne fut onc si horrible trone

    Near the woods soldiers hidden on the day for Lucy
    For whom there never was so horrible a Throne

    The theme of IX.68 goes beyond mere potentiality in the 'hidden soldiers' as still-subterranean and intact immense magnets of the LHC, with the identifying image of the Black Forest proximity: this day appears designated for the Supreme Being Throne
    issuing the punishing order, that Queen Babylon, as Venus then-reigning, should have the cup she mixed for herself mixed double. The Fortune jump into the Surprise Grand Trine made a double for the simultaneous Grand Trine of Ceres and Pluto with the
    East Point. The Revelation passage has been illuminated so the actual date could be derived.

    The Saturnin Grand Trine was established as the major instrument of Divine Fury for the cataclysm through its prior variant forms.

    The Mobile sign of I.54 was a Solar Grand Trine featured for its Geneva Venusian Nadir resembling a tipping Balance on the Sun-Fulcrum 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, time-equivalent for the US House chamber being announced for the Republican majority,
    whose extreme goals and tactics would prove alarming when the debt-ceiling limit later fell on the feast for a Lombard saint, as reflected in V.42.

    The Lombard reference in VI.16 is Apocalyptic, with heavenly angels carrying out the dark task, intending to infuse commentary on the Tavern shooting at another Lombard feast date, by staging the primary fiery event at the Black Forest place with
    another Lombard association. This manifestation provides potentially double meaning for V.42, with terror for Lombard folk under the Balance, not being tipped but overthrown.

    So the 22 February 2023 return to the Upright Grand Trine form with Saturn at the Vertical-Apex Eleventh House cusp, from that same discovery for 16 July 2022, is especially ominous.

    The lines that refer to lunar conjunctions in the cataclysmic sequence can be identified, with temple implications.

    Corinth, Ephese lors en perplexite
    Corinth, Ephesus then in perplexity
    [III.3, Neptune lunar conjunct 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET]
    Sera meurtri a Venus faisant voeu
    Will be murdered at Venus making a vow

    [VIII.32, Venus lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 10:26 am CET]

    Vesta sepulcre feu eteint apparaitre

    Vesta sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear

    [X.6, Vesta lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 4:52 pm CET]

    Conversely, the Saturnin clues seem to relate primarily to the activating version of the critical 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Vertex, with those enduring its effects being dubbed 'The Saturnins.'

    Les Saturnins brules par les meuniers

    The Saturnins burned by the millers

    [VI.17]

    Par Saturnins endurera le pire

    The worst will be endured by the Saturnins

    [V.24]

    Saturne d'or en fer se changera

    Saturn with gold will convert itself into sword

    A major difference in the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine from the 16 July 2022 version is that Saturn is near the Sun instead of the Moon; Saturn's solar conjunct occurred 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET (noting match with V.42
    enumeration), for the golden factor that designates destructive manifestation.

    Reactions to The Beatles' seven-year presentation varied between regions and timeframes, with societies attempting to judge them based on cultural precepts, while lacking substantive comprehension of their intentions and tactics. A family member sends me
    a text about being certain they were diabolical because of a hand signal made during the promotion for the "Yellow Submarine" animated film, which is like saying the Hopis were like Nazis because they both used the swastika, or that a symbol can only
    have one meaning by however appropriates it - a link to the raw footage from the 11 August 1966 Chicago press conference was provided, without receiving any comment on what the group members actually said when the critical subject of Christianity
    unambiguously emerged. People will generally believe what they want, and utterly disregard what creates cognitive dissonance for them.

    When the known history is integrated with the esoteric facets of the group story, what emerges is neither common knowledge nor easily anticipated: the hysteria-inducing effect of the subliminal psychological transference characterized their touring years
    as a cultural phenomenon, while having little to do with the various productions being planned for recordings; reconstructing the famous episodes with some insight puts a judicial mirror up to contemporary society more than the band, who instead exhibit
    sardonically clever auditory ideas being manifested for an oblivious world, constantly reminding itself that something vaguely monumental was happening, without understanding its profound implications.

    The Beatles eventually won the battle over style: their early rhythm-and-blues approach was racially provocative; baroque and symphonic leanings in the middle presented neo-Classical legitimacy; in their late group phase an unassuming purity emerged, so
    the Sunday Church feeling for "Let It Be" seemed completely genuine. The same elder who scoffed scornfully at their debut on the Ed Sullivan show would express a spiritual devotion to the McCartney tune "Mull Of Kintyre," without consciously realizing
    what the bagpipe sequence might have been conveying. The struggle to delve into their substance remains unfulfilled, since they themselves would not lead into that uncharted territory, merely asserting there were plenty of things yet unconsidered.

    The process outlined of Christian regression appears subliminally expressed in their debut album cover of "Baby It's You," where the repeated backing vocal accusation "Cheat! Cheat!" could be applied to Jesus being said to have 'cheated Death.' The
    scatted "Sha-La-La"s appear in two forms: the longer version suggests,

    'Shall I Write
    Another
    LAW?'

    Ending this repetition with the truncated variation implies more simply,

    'Shall I Write A Law?'

    The instrumental solo there, with heavy electric guitar augmented by George Martin note-matching on the brighter-sounding celeste (whose name connotes 'heavenly'), an achievement while limited to twin-track mono, could have given away the entire agenda,
    in part explaining,

    'Start With The Ending:
    His Ascension -
    To Heaven...'

    Such a covert statement of objective had within it the eventual requirement for a song like "Penny Lane" with its triumphal entry into Jerusalem subtext, going forth with trumpets on horseback to emulate the Master Jesus - and that became its own real
    phenomenon, featuring the Fab Foursome all riding horses. The early group name "The SILVER Beetles" when spoken and reversed sounds like it ends with the word "Horsemen," suggesting a concept in tandem with the Revelation-parody early press release by
    Lennon.

    The group created an audio catalog with visual components possessing certain properties, thus these were created experiences that could be enjoyed or appreciated. Acknowledging prophetic fulfillment is not a passive-receptive endeavor, instead comparing
    a set of perceived parameters against any compliant conditions in reality: thus re-defining ambiguous terms, and assessing available information for relevancy is a continual challenge towards attaining clarity. In our current times there is not the
    unpopular Vietnam War ostensibly against communism, but instead the invasion of Ukraine threatening an established democratic nation. Prophecy may allow us to find this moment in history, and attain awareness of its potential opportunities and pitfalls:
    the hurdle that must be overcome is to properly define the given terms.

    In the ongoing endeavor, a correct assessment can exist from judicial astrology, without generating media coverage.

    High-Born Ones Meet As The Saturnin Chalice Is Doubled After Falsifying Version
    [1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET / 4:30 pm EST / 1:30 pm EST]

    The 22 February 2023 date as Vienne (via Saint Paschasius) in IX.69 could be valid for the Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Vertex (local to Geneva), subsequent to the Lyons date 15 February (via Saint Bonitus) when the Nepal plane crash
    occurred.

    Beyond Lyons, Vienne, such great hail for them

    {IX.69}

    So Vienne itself indicates a Saturnin Grand Trine that does not equate to the apocalyptic hail date: in the next quatrain, both Lyons and Vienne have been re-encoded - for 2017 with a different Lyons reference (martyrs 2 June) adjacent to the feast of
    Corpus Christi calculated in 2017 at 3 June (having the 12 August 2017 Charlottesville pro-Confederate statue rally as the first line backdrop, 'sharp weapons hidden under flaming torches'), and another 2023 usage for Vienne (in late May).

    Some of the Saturnin Grand Trine instances appear identified by extraneous details, which seems an effective subtext method due to their infrequency. There is no fabrication in examining the current judicial astrology against the cataclysmic prophetic
    lines, discarding false presumptions for more plausible interpretations. The fatality total from the Turkey-Syria border sibling quakes has reached an immense number, the 6 February date coinciding with the feast for two canonized nephews of Saint
    Patrick; this fulfilled line 3 of II.92, occurring after the final line was associated in real-time with the early January 2023 House Speakership vote debacle, against the 1 January feast for Saint Telemachus who opposed gladiator contests.

    Fire color of gold from terrestrial view -
    Struck with the High-Born, marvelous celestial feat;
    Massive human murder, taken from the Great's Nephew;
    Deaths as spectacles, the conceited one escapes defeat

    {II.92}

    The elusive solution to the High-Born hint should be that one instance of the Saturnin Grand Trine would be attended by that as a distinguishing feature - and this should be the conjunction of Venus as Mystery Babylon, miserable daughter debased by
    joining her disapproving omnipotent father Jupiter, as her pledging the ill-fated vow of VIII.32, 2 March 2023 around 7 am CET.

    ...Paternal love vexed,
    Cupbearer to falsify, Chalice tried

    {VI.89}

    The previous portion of that quatrain relates to the recent sibling quakes in a grisly fashion. There is a Saturnin Grand Trine with the Moon and Midheaven 1 March 2023 3:48 am CET, at Geneva Moonset, as the falsifying Cupbearer; the same day at 10:30 pm
    CET there is another Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant - this becomes a 'marvelous case' with the concurrent doubling Grand Trine of The Sun and Moon (as in V.66) with the East Point. Venus in the latter case is about a third of a
    degree from conjoining Jupiter. So the critical time would be -

    << 1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET / 4:30 pm EST / 1:30 pm PST >>

    The Ceres Reign commences 24 February 2023 6:24 pm CET, when Venus progresses beyond their 5-degree 23-minute opposition location, as Ceres continues in retrograde; Mercury entering Pisces 2 March 2023 11:52 pm CET ends the reign of Ceres, which is alone
    in Libra. The Ceres Reign could be the time 'Under The Balance' from V.42, with 'those included' again inferring the fateful Saturnin Grand Trine.


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    The subject of religious icons would have become part of The Beatles' myth had they completed their vision for the Butcher photo sessions: in response to the British dismissal of John Lennon's religious views in the controversial Cleave
    interview article as projecting a "holier than thou" attitude, they planned a triptych with the shocking Butcher image as the centerpiece - the undone finishing touch was to be gilded haloes surrounding their heads. The mock reverence was said to convey
    that they saw themselves as merely flesh and blood, however it seemed to work on several levels, and since many found the image disturbing as a US album sleeve cover, that photo version was immediately recalled and pasted over with a more innocuous image.


    Continuing the projected timing of a cataclysm for which the recent quakes taking over 25,000 lives was a formidable precursor, the moment of a particular Grand Trine configuration was deduced to be the objective.

    The branches for Theodora as the saint widow suggests some day beyond 11 February; the High-Born from II.92 being Saint Richard of Lucca for the Gallic King of VIII.32 for 7 February merely puts the striking of the cataclysmic event past
    the date of the massively lethal sibling quakes at the Turkey-Syrian border on the 6th.

    The Cup-Bearer falsifying in VI.89 signifies a wrong date, as following the widow and Virgin clue to 11 February, rather than a choice between Grand Trines on a specific date.

    The V.18 phrase 'son Vitrix' interpreted for 'Sans-Vertex' infers by reverse corollary 'Vertex-Without,' a situation where the Vertex is occupied outside the Grand Trine pattern, rather than negatively asserting an inactive non-role.

    A Lombardy feast recurrence should coincide: Saint Juventius, bishop of Pavia, is honored on 12 February; and Blessed Jordan of Saxony was prior-provincial of the Order of Preachers in Lombardy circa 1221 - in 1237 Jordan during a
    pilgrimage to the Holy Land drowned in a shipwreck off the coast of Syria - he has a feast on 13 February.

    For Geneva on 13 February 2023 using CET:

    1 am - Mercury exceeds the locational value of Vesta, thus commencing a Vestal Reign to last until the Sun enters Pisces (18 February 2023 11:35 pm CET);

    3:49 pm - Neptune lunar trine - a possible condition for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3;

    5:01 pm - Solar-Lunar square aspect - recalling 'Sol et Lune' from V.66;

    5:53 pm - Dusk brings a maximum jump for Fortune (II.66), from the top of the chart to the lunar position at the bottom;

    6:07 pm - Saturn falling commences the Saturnin interval;

    6:39 to 6:48 pm - Grand Trine consisting of Lilith (4 degrees 3 minutes Leo), Vesta (2 degrees 26 minutes Aries), and the Part of Fortune (moving between both relative locations in Sagittarius, oriented at the bottom of the chart) - the
    fiery nature of Vesta and the Wind Succubus Lilith suggest this Chalice portends ill-Fortune;

    6:43 pm - Mercury conjoined by the Vertex, in rough opposition with Lilith, and Fortune sextile the Vertex - this extraneous Vertex activity outside the concurrent Grand Trine formation could satisfy V.18, for the critical time in the
    Saturnin interval -

    << 13 February 2023 6:43 pm CET / 12:43 pm EST / 9:43 am PST >>;

    8:19 pm - Venus falls at the Descendant, with Fortune at the Nadir;

    8:30 pm - Neptune falls;

    9:15 pm - Vesta at the Descendant in a rectangular formation with the Ascendant, Lilith and Mercury (Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6);

    9:52 pm - Saturn lunar square.

    The perplexity in this application would regard the Neptune lunar trine, rather than Neptune falling local to Geneva; the next lunar aspect with the Sun as a square would be the prevalent condition for the glittering metals event, as in V.
    66.

    Both the Saturnin interval upon local descent and the subsequent Saturn lunar square could be the subjects of different lines, with context clarifying some ambiguity.
    Post-Vertex Saturnin Chalice To Vex Paternal Amours {14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST}

    The August 1999 Izmit quake was an early major event conjectured prior to occurrence, although the location being named in V.54 as Bisance for Byzantium was not integrated substantively into the awareness of the Cassini spacecraft gravity
    assist engaging during the Earth-flyby (the quake preceding by 20.5 hours) through cross-referencing a set of quatrains. The line of totality for the August 1999 solar eclipse during a Fixed Grand Cross was the transpiercing King in V.54, crossing the
    Black Sea and leaving Byzantium bloody. Also the final line of V.86 depicted the quake as Byzantium crushed by the head of Persia.

    I could sense the sibling quakes of 6 February 2023, striking instead the Turkish border with Syria, as reflected in VI.82, 89, and II.92 line 3, would have a similar high death toll ultimately - and the same story of weakly designed
    structures has emerged. Rescue efforts could trigger avalanches of debris; miners were devising tunnels to assist those operations. The Turkish reference in IV.58 was for 7 December 2022 via hagiology, for timing of the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange. The
    Turkey-Syria border quakes comprise the first stage of the Nephew prophecy (via saintly nephews of Saint Patrick), for Blood, with the second Nephew stage through Fear emerging later.

    The first week of the year had the Speakership debacle foretold in the final line of II.92 using Saint Telemachus; the Mercury solar conjunct of 7 January 2023 attended the beating of Tyre Nichols for the Memphis incitement of X.79; the next
    day the Brasilia insurrection presented the flowering of Hercules' lies, and the people trapped from exiting the presidential palace from II.66. The Nepal plane crash on 15 January 2023 complied with the Lyons-Marseilles encoded event; the Half Moon Bay
    shooting was on the Ulm day of 23 January for Blessed Henry Suso as in VIII.34. Each quatrain case carries its own set of messages, with complex logical intersections.

    The Victor comparison between IV.95 and VI.70 recalls the Big Victor character played by Victor Mature in the 1968 group-ending film "Head" by The Monkees, when their television show had been cancelled, as an inside-joke mocking their RCA
    corporate taskmasters, continuing the extremely subtle pop culture theme that recently surfaced in the prophecies.

    https://www.neatorama.com/2012/02/16/head-the-monkees-strange-movie/

    The Magi Gift Attack theme for the cataclysmic onset in II.92 (fire color of Gold), V.16 (smoke like Frankincense), and VIII.34 (injury and tomb both calling for Myrrh) thus seems to co-exist for this apparent finale to the sequence.

    The 13 February 2023 2023 6:45 pm CET Grand Trine of Lilith-Vesta-Fortune was decidedly not 'Sans-Vertex' ('son vitrix') to satisfy the secret hint in V.18, since Mercury in opposition with triangle point Lilith was conspicuously conjoined by
    the Vertex: thus it could be the falsifying Cupbearer of VI.89, approaching the true Chalice of Divine Fury.

    The Vestal Reign will last until 18 February 2023, however the conditions for the descending celestial lineup being considered for Geneva will transition more quickly: as John Lennon explained of his famous group's demise, 'Wedding Bells are
    breaking up that old gang of mine.' First Venus and Neptune through their conjunction will effectively 'switch places' 15 February 2023 :30 pm CET; then the Sun will overtake Saturn 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET. These two changes alter the current
    compliance, as though backing the prophecy into a corner.

    A daily recurring Grand Trine involving the Midheaven point with Mercury and Ceres asserts itself on the evening of 14 February 2023, the Valentine's Day date corresponding with the 'fatherly amours' vexed in VI.89, on the final evening when
    the participants descending as V.65 suggests will have their ominous potential.

    For Geneva on 14 February 2023 using CET:

    5:55 pm - Dusk brings a jump of Fortune to about 26 degrees from the lunar position;

    6:04 pm - Saturn falling commences the fateful Saturnin interval;

    7:09 to 7:17 pm CET - Grand Trine of Mercury (4.5 degrees Aquarius) with Ceres (6.5 degrees Libra) and Midheaven (reaching 5.5 degrees Gemini 7:12 pm CET), the Vertex around 15 degrees Aquarius forms a weak trine with Mars in Gemini, and a
    weak sextile with Juno in Aries (so the Grand Trine does not seem significantly in an aspect with the Vertex), rendering the critical time -

    << 14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST / 10:12 am PST >>

    - while not yet overtaken by the skewed Nadir, the Moon then appears at the bottom of the chart;

    8:21 pm - Venus descends, presumably in the wake of the cataclysmic onset, thus being debased for X.28, with Fortune nearing the Moon;

    8:26 pm - Neptune at the Descendant simultaneous with the Part of Fortune reaching the Moon, thereby presenting the III.3 perplexity for Neptunian Corinth and lunar Ephesus;

    9:13 pm - Vesta reaching the Descendant is again in a rectangular formation with Mercury, Lilith, and the East Point, providing a visual fulfillment for the 'Vesta sepulchral fire' of X.6.

    The following evening a similar upright Grand Trine forms, yet it would be Neptune facing the debasing descent instead of Venus.

    The Saturn solar conjunct for Geneva 16 February 2023 will coincide with Dusk at 5:55 pm CET.

    The Vertex seems equally uninvolved with all three versions of the Midheaven-Mercury-Ceres Grand Trine on the three consecutive evenings 14 through 16 February 2023, yet only the Valentine's Day version bears the conditions given as ominous.
    The currently-daily Midheaven Grand Trine with Mercury and Ceres was probably not intended for the activating Chalice, but the slightly later Grand Trine where Fortune in Sagittarius passes between the relative locations of Lilith past 4
    degrees Leo and Vesta nearing 3 degrees Aries - that is an isolated triple correspondence in the Fire signs for Geneva 14 February 2023 7:49 pm to 7:55 pm CET [1:49 to 1:55 pm EST] omitted in error.
    Vestal Chalice For Venusian Nadir, Then Corinth & Ephesus Found In Axis {15 February 2023 2:33 am CET / 14 February 2023 8:33 pm EST / 5:33 pm PST}

    The requisite conditions in judicial astrology and emergent disastrous precursors have not failed in establishing an intricate trail towards an ultimate double cataclysm whose inevitability appears manifest - the cryptic veracity of the French
    prophecies allow some limited pre-event awareness, which should be refined, if only to facilitate post-mortem acknowledgement. Several major news events since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse have been featured as precursors, incorporating precise
    details beyond random happenings (the serial posting here should demonstrate some elaborations).

    The immense fatalities from the sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border 6 February 2023 occurred on the feast for two nephews of Saint Patrick, enacting II.92 line 3 - 'Great human murder, taken from the Great Nephew'; the situations in VI.82
    and 89 match, and a complicated comparison between this Nephew of Blood and a later Nephew emerging through Fear appears in the process of current fulfillment.

    Viewing the chart for Geneva's Venusian Nadir 15 February 2023 2:33 am CET showed yet another Grand Trine, then with the Ascendant joining Lilith and Vesta: since Venus is in the debasing Nadir position, this instance is particularly ominous.

    Also because Neptune is close to conjoining Venus, when it is at the Nadir two minutes later at 2:35 am CET, at the base of the skewed Prime Vertical, it complements at an oblique angle the Moon nearing opposition with Mars, with the two
    appearing aligned slightly off the Ecliptic. The Mars lunar opposition technically takes place later that morning at 3:05 am CET, yet the rough impression exists in the earlier charts.

    So two minutes after the potential Venusian debasement cataclysmic onset, Neptune and the Moon separately define a dual-axis correspondence for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity from III.3.

    Venus reaching the Nadir ends the Saturnin interval; and the Vestal Reign culminates in the fateful Grand Trine with Lilith and the Ascendant - it takes 'three to tango' in forming the Chalice.

    The Vertex around 16 degrees Cancer has no aspects involving or competing significantly with the transitory Chalice Grand Trine.

    The principal celestial bodies are then beneath the Ecliptic, excluding Mars near the Descendant: Ceres, Lilith and Pallas share the overhead Vault, compliant with V.65 stipulating Vesta herself would not be visible.

    Since the Ascendant is involved, the Grand Trine points towards the Left, rather than appearing like a Balance, or moving in rotation.
    Saturnin Cup Debases Queen Venus In Lunar Temple [22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST]

    The temporal separation between the 6 February 2023 sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border and the cataclysmic onset is slightly more extensive than presumed, accepting the Vienne date as 22 February 2023 for Saint Paschasius, bishop of Vienne,
    who was granted supremacy over seven provinces by Pope Sylvester I circa 322. Two Lombardy dates are adjacent: Saint Peter Damian with a 21 February feast was legate to Milan for Pope Nicholas II circa 1059; and Blessed Anselm of Milan was a friar whose
    body was enshrined in the church of Santa Maria della Pace after his death in 1481.

    The Magi Gift Attack theme acquires the necessary date of a saint associated with myrrh via Saint Polycarp, bishop of Smyrna (the location known for myrrh), who was to be burned alive in a stadium circa 155, assuring his executioners there was no
    need to nail him to the pyre: from a witness account, "Like a ship's sail swirling in the wind, the flame became as it were a dome encircling the martyr's body. Surrounded by the fire, his body was like a bread that is baked, or gold and silver white-hot
    in a furnace, not like flesh that has been burnt. So sweet a fragrance came to us that it was like that of burning incense, or some other costly and sweet-smelling gum." So the saint associated with the Myrrh location set aflame exhibited the properties
    of the gummy substance, although Polycarp did not perish by the fire.

    Perceiving Polycarp to be unharmed, the execution proceeded using a dagger to stab him to death, then his corpse was burned.

    "'I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire'"
    {Revelation 3:18}

    Both Blessed Anselm of Milan and Saint Polycarp share the 23 February feast day.

    Other prophetic references become clear around these dates.

    The feast of the Chair of Saint Peter is 22 February, commemorating the founding of the See of Antioch; the Roman celebration also included 18 February. Both Masses include the same 'Collect': "O God, who, together with the power of the keys of the
    Kingdom of Heaven, didst bestow on blessed Peter Thy Apostle the pontificate of binding and loosing, grant that by the aid of his intersection we may be released from the yoke of our sins."
    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Gaul to shake, the Bark to become imperiled

    Line 3 of X.58 could be presenting two references for 22 February 2023, Gaul and Vienne being for Saint Paschasius, and the Bark indicating not the current papacy at Rome, but the feast for the Chair of Saint Peter.

    About a hundred Grand Trines were examined from 16 to 25 February 2023, discovering some anomalies. A Double Grand Trine oriented like the Star of David was found for Geneva charts 17 February 2023, without the requisite ominous conditions; for the
    afternoon of 21 February 2023, Fortune and the Vertex moved in trine-alignment to form successive Grand Trines with several celestial bodies (the Moon, Neptune, Venus, Vesta, Jupiter, Chiron and Juno).

    The Part of Fortune is clearly hinted in II.66, and the Vertex (as near-anagram Vitrix) in V.18, where 'son vitrix' works translated as 'his Vertex' for Trinitarian co-founder Saint Felix of Valois. The suggestion from V.65 of principals in the
    affair being hidden could relate to the unseen conceptual points: Vesta as the lady on coals no longer being visible speaks to atmospheric changes rendering the overhead Vault obscured.

    The veil seemed lifted on the pivotal contribution of Saturn when it was realized the ringed planet was involved in only one Grand Trine during the interval examined - and it emerged as a variation on the post-Full Super Moon 16 July 2022 2:06 am
    CEST condition compliant with IV.31, however no longer with the Moon near Saturn. The previous Saturnin Grand Trine was on the false-Midheaven Apex of the Eleventh House cusp: its base has Venus on one side, and the merging of Fortune and the Vertex on
    the other. The new Saturnin Grand Trine occurs 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET, with the base having the Vertex on one side, and Fortune on the other.

    Thus the lunar conjunctions could be separated for Neptune, presenting the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3, and the Vestal sepulchral fire of X.6: the Moon would be passing Venus for the catastrophe to debase her specifically.

    A Venusian Reign starts by entering Aries 20 February 2023 8:56 am CET, and ends when exceeding the relative location of Lilith, 24 February 2023 4:07 pm CET. Venus as Mystery Babylon from Revelation receives her Cup of divine wrath while sitting
    as Queen, rejecting The Great Mourning for Jesus Christ, while asserting (quite accurately of herself as representing modern culture) that she is no widow who might feel such emotional grief.

    The Neptune lunar conjunction occurs 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET at 24 degrees 17 minutes Pisces.

    For Geneva on 22 February 2023 using CET:

    10:26 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 2 degrees 32 minutes Aries;

    10:47 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Apex at false Midheaven on Eleventh House cusp (28 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius), base consisting of Fortune (28 degrees 44 minutes Gemini) and the Vertex (26 degrees 47 minutes Libra), and the East Point
    separately merged with the Node - this is the critical time for cataclysmic onset -

    << 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST / 1:47 am PST >>;

    12:07 pm - Pisces Sun and Aries Moon adjacent at 3 degrees 33 minutes - 'De Sol et Lune' ('With Sun and Moon') from V.66;

    4:52 pm - Vesta lunar conjunct at 6 degrees 24 minutes Aries.

    The final line of V.66 skips ahead to the hybrid solar eclipse of 20 April 2023, visible for Indonesia and Australia: the date coincides with the feast for Saint Servilian, a Trajan martyr beheaded in Rome circa 117.
    Ardente lampe Traian d'or burine
    Burning lamp engraved with Trajan gold

    *

    '...When He Entered
    Through The Gate
    Of Jerusalem..'
    The ringed sports trophy in the foreground of the Sgt Pepper tableau cover image suggests planet Saturn in a warped way, perhaps disclosing intentional references to the Solar System: the jovial circus song aligned with Jupiter energy ending Side One
    was resumed with the long, slow sad song as George Harrison's compositional contribution, immersed in a saturnine tone that was supposedly relieved with deliberate laughter in the outro.

    The similarity of the two Geneva Saturnin Upright Grand Trines suggests the 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST post-Full Super Moon version (IV.31) was the falsifying Cupbearer from the final line of VI.89, with the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET variation
    presenting the Chalice that is drained: its orientation simultaneously recalls the Trinity and the Cup activated by being overturned or inverted.

    The 18 December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine matches the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' because it shifted immediately into a reconstituted version as Fortune proceeded, however this successive pair of Fortune Grand Trines was
    preceeded by the actual 'Chief Pail Of Water,' meaning a Saturnin Grand Trine. When Saturn passed Midheaven in Aquarius 4:22 pm CET, it was in a Grand Trine with the Libran Moon and the Ascendant in Gemini; the Offspring Successive Grand Trines followed
    around 5:35 pm and 6:05 pm CET respectively, as the 'son led in spinning.' The chronology was established by the final line setting the release of Griner as the female captive conducted to freedom through the prior 7 December 2022 association with
    Antioch via hagiology.

    Likewise the Surprise Grand Trine emerging when Fortune has its leap at Dusk 13 December 2022 4:45 pm CET as Saturnin, since Fortune was with Saturn at Midheaven before jumping to the position for a Saturnin-Ascendant-Fortune Grand Trine.

    Dans bois caches soldats jour de Lucie
    Qui ne fut onc si horrible trone

    Near the woods soldiers hidden on the day for Lucy
    For whom there never was so horrible a Throne

    The theme of IX.68 goes beyond mere potentiality in the 'hidden soldiers' as still-subterranean and intact immense magnets of the LHC, with the identifying image of the Black Forest proximity: this day appears designated for the Supreme Being Throne
    issuing the punishing order, that Queen Babylon, as Venus then-reigning, should have the cup she mixed for herself mixed double. The Fortune jump into the Surprise Grand Trine made a double for the simultaneous Grand Trine of Ceres and Pluto with the
    East Point. The Revelation passage has been illuminated so the actual date could be derived.

    The Saturnin Grand Trine was established as the major instrument of Divine Fury for the cataclysm through its prior variant forms.

    The Mobile sign of I.54 was a Solar Grand Trine featured for its Geneva Venusian Nadir resembling a tipping Balance on the Sun-Fulcrum 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, time-equivalent for the US House chamber being announced for the Republican majority,
    whose extreme goals and tactics would prove alarming when the debt-ceiling limit later fell on the feast for a Lombard saint, as reflected in V.42.

    The Lombard reference in VI.16 is Apocalyptic, with heavenly angels carrying out the dark task, intending to infuse commentary on the Tavern shooting at another Lombard feast date, by staging the primary fiery event at the Black Forest place with
    another Lombard association. This manifestation provides potentially double meaning for V.42, with terror for Lombard folk under the Balance, not being tipped but overthrown.

    So the 22 February 2023 return to the Upright Grand Trine form with Saturn at the Vertical-Apex Eleventh House cusp, from that same discovery for 16 July 2022, is especially ominous.

    The lines that refer to lunar conjunctions in the cataclysmic sequence can be identified, with temple implications.

    Corinth, Ephese lors en perplexite
    Corinth, Ephesus then in perplexity
    [III.3, Neptune lunar conjunct 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET]
    Sera meurtri a Venus faisant voeu
    Will be murdered at Venus making a vow

    [VIII.32, Venus lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 10:26 am CET]

    Vesta sepulcre feu eteint apparaitre

    Vesta sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear

    [X.6, Vesta lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 4:52 pm CET]

    Conversely, the Saturnin clues seem to relate primarily to the activating version of the critical 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Vertex, with those enduring its effects being dubbed 'The Saturnins.'

    Les Saturnins brules par les meuniers

    The Saturnins burned by the millers

    [VI.17]

    Par Saturnins endurera le pire

    The worst will be endured by the Saturnins

    [V.24]

    Saturne d'or en fer se changera

    Saturn with gold will convert itself into sword

    A major difference in the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine from the 16 July 2022 version is that Saturn is near the Sun instead of the Moon; Saturn's solar conjunct occurred 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET (noting match with V.42
    enumeration), for the golden factor that designates destructive manifestation.
    Reactions to The Beatles' seven-year presentation varied between regions and timeframes, with societies attempting to judge them based on cultural precepts, while lacking substantive comprehension of their intentions and tactics. A family member sends
    me a text about being certain they were diabolical because of a hand signal made during the promotion for the "Yellow Submarine" animated film, which is like saying the Hopis were like Nazis because they both used the swastika, or that a symbol can only
    have one meaning by however appropriates it - a link to the raw footage from the 11 August 1966 Chicago press conference was provided, without receiving any comment on what the group members actually said when the critical subject of Christianity
    unambiguously emerged. People will generally believe what they want, and utterly disregard what creates cognitive dissonance for them.

    When the known history is integrated with the esoteric facets of the group story, what emerges is neither common knowledge nor easily anticipated: the hysteria-inducing effect of the subliminal psychological transference characterized their touring
    years as a cultural phenomenon, while having little to do with the various productions being planned for recordings; reconstructing the famous episodes with some insight puts a judicial mirror up to contemporary society more than the band, who instead
    exhibit sardonically clever auditory ideas being manifested for an oblivious world, constantly reminding itself that something vaguely monumental was happening, without understanding its profound implications.

    The Beatles eventually won the battle over style: their early rhythm-and-blues approach was racially provocative; baroque and symphonic leanings in the middle presented neo-Classical legitimacy; in their late group phase an unassuming purity emerged,
    so the Sunday Church feeling for "Let It Be" seemed completely genuine. The same elder who scoffed scornfully at their debut on the Ed Sullivan show would express a spiritual devotion to the McCartney tune "Mull Of Kintyre," without consciously realizing
    what the bagpipe sequence might have been conveying. The struggle to delve into their substance remains unfulfilled, since they themselves would not lead into that uncharted territory, merely asserting there were plenty of things yet unconsidered.

    The process outlined of Christian regression appears subliminally expressed in their debut album cover of "Baby It's You," where the repeated backing vocal accusation "Cheat! Cheat!" could be applied to Jesus being said to have 'cheated Death.' The
    scatted "Sha-La-La"s appear in two forms: the longer version suggests,

    'Shall I Write
    Another
    LAW?'

    Ending this repetition with the truncated variation implies more simply,

    'Shall I Write A Law?'

    The instrumental solo there, with heavy electric guitar augmented by George Martin note-matching on the brighter-sounding celeste (whose name connotes 'heavenly'), an achievement while limited to twin-track mono, could have given away the entire agenda,
    in part explaining,

    'Start With The Ending:
    His Ascension -
    To Heaven...'

    Such a covert statement of objective had within it the eventual requirement for a song like "Penny Lane" with its triumphal entry into Jerusalem subtext, going forth with trumpets on horseback to emulate the Master Jesus - and that became its own real
    phenomenon, featuring the Fab Foursome all riding horses. The early group name "The SILVER Beetles" when spoken and reversed sounds like it ends with the word "Horsemen," suggesting a concept in tandem with the Revelation-parody early press release by
    Lennon.

    The group created an audio catalog with visual components possessing certain properties, thus these were created experiences that could be enjoyed or appreciated. Acknowledging prophetic fulfillment is not a passive-receptive endeavor, instead
    comparing a set of perceived parameters against any compliant conditions in reality: thus re-defining ambiguous terms, and assessing available information for relevancy is a continual challenge towards attaining clarity. In our current times there is not
    the unpopular Vietnam War ostensibly against communism, but instead the invasion of Ukraine threatening an established democratic nation. Prophecy may allow us to find this moment in history, and attain awareness of its potential opportunities and
    pitfalls: the hurdle that must be overcome is to properly define the given terms.

    In the ongoing endeavor, a correct assessment can exist from judicial astrology, without generating media coverage.

    High-Born Ones Meet As The Saturnin Chalice Is Doubled After Falsifying Version
    [1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET / 4:30 pm EST / 1:30 pm EST]

    The 22 February 2023 date as Vienne (via Saint Paschasius) in IX.69 could be valid for the Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Vertex (local to Geneva), subsequent to the Lyons date 15 February (via Saint Bonitus) when the Nepal plane crash
    occurred.

    Beyond Lyons, Vienne, such great hail for them

    {IX.69}

    So Vienne itself indicates a Saturnin Grand Trine that does not equate to the apocalyptic hail date: in the next quatrain, both Lyons and Vienne have been re-encoded - for 2017 with a different Lyons reference (martyrs 2 June) adjacent to the feast of
    Corpus Christi calculated in 2017 at 3 June (having the 12 August 2017 Charlottesville pro-Confederate statue rally as the first line backdrop, 'sharp weapons hidden under flaming torches'), and another 2023 usage for Vienne (in late May).


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    During the triangular configuration, Venus in Pisces will be in a trine with the Ascendant in Cancer, both briefly at 19 degrees 12 minutes: this aspect complicating the simultaneous Saturnin Lunar Grand Trine with the East Point
    appears to be how Venus as Mystery Babylon is debased with the Cup of divine wrath emerging for Geneva (the East Point is locally calculated). The Venusian orientation beyond the Midheaven point thus appears inconsequential.
    The subject of religious icons would have become part of The Beatles' myth had they completed their vision for the Butcher photo sessions: in response to the British dismissal of John Lennon's religious views in the controversial Cleave
    interview article as projecting a "holier than thou" attitude, they planned a triptych with the shocking Butcher image as the centerpiece - the undone finishing touch was to be gilded haloes surrounding their heads. The mock reverence was said to convey
    that they saw themselves as merely flesh and blood, however it seemed to work on several levels, and since many found the image disturbing as a US album sleeve cover, that photo version was immediately recalled and pasted over with a more innocuous image.


    Continuing the projected timing of a cataclysm for which the recent quakes taking over 25,000 lives was a formidable precursor, the moment of a particular Grand Trine configuration was deduced to be the objective.

    The branches for Theodora as the saint widow suggests some day beyond 11 February; the High-Born from II.92 being Saint Richard of Lucca for the Gallic King of VIII.32 for 7 February merely puts the striking of the cataclysmic event past
    the date of the massively lethal sibling quakes at the Turkey-Syrian border on the 6th.

    The Cup-Bearer falsifying in VI.89 signifies a wrong date, as following the widow and Virgin clue to 11 February, rather than a choice between Grand Trines on a specific date.

    The V.18 phrase 'son Vitrix' interpreted for 'Sans-Vertex' infers by reverse corollary 'Vertex-Without,' a situation where the Vertex is occupied outside the Grand Trine pattern, rather than negatively asserting an inactive non-role.

    A Lombardy feast recurrence should coincide: Saint Juventius, bishop of Pavia, is honored on 12 February; and Blessed Jordan of Saxony was prior-provincial of the Order of Preachers in Lombardy circa 1221 - in 1237 Jordan during a
    pilgrimage to the Holy Land drowned in a shipwreck off the coast of Syria - he has a feast on 13 February.

    For Geneva on 13 February 2023 using CET:

    1 am - Mercury exceeds the locational value of Vesta, thus commencing a Vestal Reign to last until the Sun enters Pisces (18 February 2023 11:35 pm CET);

    3:49 pm - Neptune lunar trine - a possible condition for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3;

    5:01 pm - Solar-Lunar square aspect - recalling 'Sol et Lune' from V.66;

    5:53 pm - Dusk brings a maximum jump for Fortune (II.66), from the top of the chart to the lunar position at the bottom;

    6:07 pm - Saturn falling commences the Saturnin interval;

    6:39 to 6:48 pm - Grand Trine consisting of Lilith (4 degrees 3 minutes Leo), Vesta (2 degrees 26 minutes Aries), and the Part of Fortune (moving between both relative locations in Sagittarius, oriented at the bottom of the chart) - the
    fiery nature of Vesta and the Wind Succubus Lilith suggest this Chalice portends ill-Fortune;

    6:43 pm - Mercury conjoined by the Vertex, in rough opposition with Lilith, and Fortune sextile the Vertex - this extraneous Vertex activity outside the concurrent Grand Trine formation could satisfy V.18, for the critical time in the
    Saturnin interval -

    << 13 February 2023 6:43 pm CET / 12:43 pm EST / 9:43 am PST >>;

    8:19 pm - Venus falls at the Descendant, with Fortune at the Nadir;

    8:30 pm - Neptune falls;

    9:15 pm - Vesta at the Descendant in a rectangular formation with the Ascendant, Lilith and Mercury (Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6);

    9:52 pm - Saturn lunar square.

    The perplexity in this application would regard the Neptune lunar trine, rather than Neptune falling local to Geneva; the next lunar aspect with the Sun as a square would be the prevalent condition for the glittering metals event, as in V.
    66.

    Both the Saturnin interval upon local descent and the subsequent Saturn lunar square could be the subjects of different lines, with context clarifying some ambiguity.
    Post-Vertex Saturnin Chalice To Vex Paternal Amours {14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST}

    The August 1999 Izmit quake was an early major event conjectured prior to occurrence, although the location being named in V.54 as Bisance for Byzantium was not integrated substantively into the awareness of the Cassini spacecraft gravity
    assist engaging during the Earth-flyby (the quake preceding by 20.5 hours) through cross-referencing a set of quatrains. The line of totality for the August 1999 solar eclipse during a Fixed Grand Cross was the transpiercing King in V.54, crossing the
    Black Sea and leaving Byzantium bloody. Also the final line of V.86 depicted the quake as Byzantium crushed by the head of Persia.

    I could sense the sibling quakes of 6 February 2023, striking instead the Turkish border with Syria, as reflected in VI.82, 89, and II.92 line 3, would have a similar high death toll ultimately - and the same story of weakly designed
    structures has emerged. Rescue efforts could trigger avalanches of debris; miners were devising tunnels to assist those operations. The Turkish reference in IV.58 was for 7 December 2022 via hagiology, for timing of the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange. The
    Turkey-Syria border quakes comprise the first stage of the Nephew prophecy (via saintly nephews of Saint Patrick), for Blood, with the second Nephew stage through Fear emerging later.

    The first week of the year had the Speakership debacle foretold in the final line of II.92 using Saint Telemachus; the Mercury solar conjunct of 7 January 2023 attended the beating of Tyre Nichols for the Memphis incitement of X.79; the
    next day the Brasilia insurrection presented the flowering of Hercules' lies, and the people trapped from exiting the presidential palace from II.66. The Nepal plane crash on 15 January 2023 complied with the Lyons-Marseilles encoded event; the Half Moon
    Bay shooting was on the Ulm day of 23 January for Blessed Henry Suso as in VIII.34. Each quatrain case carries its own set of messages, with complex logical intersections.

    The Victor comparison between IV.95 and VI.70 recalls the Big Victor character played by Victor Mature in the 1968 group-ending film "Head" by The Monkees, when their television show had been cancelled, as an inside-joke mocking their RCA
    corporate taskmasters, continuing the extremely subtle pop culture theme that recently surfaced in the prophecies.

    https://www.neatorama.com/2012/02/16/head-the-monkees-strange-movie/

    The Magi Gift Attack theme for the cataclysmic onset in II.92 (fire color of Gold), V.16 (smoke like Frankincense), and VIII.34 (injury and tomb both calling for Myrrh) thus seems to co-exist for this apparent finale to the sequence.

    The 13 February 2023 2023 6:45 pm CET Grand Trine of Lilith-Vesta-Fortune was decidedly not 'Sans-Vertex' ('son vitrix') to satisfy the secret hint in V.18, since Mercury in opposition with triangle point Lilith was conspicuously conjoined
    by the Vertex: thus it could be the falsifying Cupbearer of VI.89, approaching the true Chalice of Divine Fury.

    The Vestal Reign will last until 18 February 2023, however the conditions for the descending celestial lineup being considered for Geneva will transition more quickly: as John Lennon explained of his famous group's demise, 'Wedding Bells
    are breaking up that old gang of mine.' First Venus and Neptune through their conjunction will effectively 'switch places' 15 February 2023 :30 pm CET; then the Sun will overtake Saturn 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET. These two changes alter the current
    compliance, as though backing the prophecy into a corner.

    A daily recurring Grand Trine involving the Midheaven point with Mercury and Ceres asserts itself on the evening of 14 February 2023, the Valentine's Day date corresponding with the 'fatherly amours' vexed in VI.89, on the final evening
    when the participants descending as V.65 suggests will have their ominous potential.

    For Geneva on 14 February 2023 using CET:

    5:55 pm - Dusk brings a jump of Fortune to about 26 degrees from the lunar position;

    6:04 pm - Saturn falling commences the fateful Saturnin interval;

    7:09 to 7:17 pm CET - Grand Trine of Mercury (4.5 degrees Aquarius) with Ceres (6.5 degrees Libra) and Midheaven (reaching 5.5 degrees Gemini 7:12 pm CET), the Vertex around 15 degrees Aquarius forms a weak trine with Mars in Gemini, and a
    weak sextile with Juno in Aries (so the Grand Trine does not seem significantly in an aspect with the Vertex), rendering the critical time -

    << 14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST / 10:12 am PST >>

    - while not yet overtaken by the skewed Nadir, the Moon then appears at the bottom of the chart;

    8:21 pm - Venus descends, presumably in the wake of the cataclysmic onset, thus being debased for X.28, with Fortune nearing the Moon;

    8:26 pm - Neptune at the Descendant simultaneous with the Part of Fortune reaching the Moon, thereby presenting the III.3 perplexity for Neptunian Corinth and lunar Ephesus;

    9:13 pm - Vesta reaching the Descendant is again in a rectangular formation with Mercury, Lilith, and the East Point, providing a visual fulfillment for the 'Vesta sepulchral fire' of X.6.

    The following evening a similar upright Grand Trine forms, yet it would be Neptune facing the debasing descent instead of Venus.

    The Saturn solar conjunct for Geneva 16 February 2023 will coincide with Dusk at 5:55 pm CET.

    The Vertex seems equally uninvolved with all three versions of the Midheaven-Mercury-Ceres Grand Trine on the three consecutive evenings 14 through 16 February 2023, yet only the Valentine's Day version bears the conditions given as ominous.

    The currently-daily Midheaven Grand Trine with Mercury and Ceres was probably not intended for the activating Chalice, but the slightly later Grand Trine where Fortune in Sagittarius passes between the relative locations of Lilith past 4
    degrees Leo and Vesta nearing 3 degrees Aries - that is an isolated triple correspondence in the Fire signs for Geneva 14 February 2023 7:49 pm to 7:55 pm CET [1:49 to 1:55 pm EST] omitted in error.
    Vestal Chalice For Venusian Nadir, Then Corinth & Ephesus Found In Axis {15 February 2023 2:33 am CET / 14 February 2023 8:33 pm EST / 5:33 pm PST}

    The requisite conditions in judicial astrology and emergent disastrous precursors have not failed in establishing an intricate trail towards an ultimate double cataclysm whose inevitability appears manifest - the cryptic veracity of the French
    prophecies allow some limited pre-event awareness, which should be refined, if only to facilitate post-mortem acknowledgement. Several major news events since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse have been featured as precursors, incorporating precise
    details beyond random happenings (the serial posting here should demonstrate some elaborations).

    The immense fatalities from the sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border 6 February 2023 occurred on the feast for two nephews of Saint Patrick, enacting II.92 line 3 - 'Great human murder, taken from the Great Nephew'; the situations in VI.
    82 and 89 match, and a complicated comparison between this Nephew of Blood and a later Nephew emerging through Fear appears in the process of current fulfillment.

    Viewing the chart for Geneva's Venusian Nadir 15 February 2023 2:33 am CET showed yet another Grand Trine, then with the Ascendant joining Lilith and Vesta: since Venus is in the debasing Nadir position, this instance is particularly ominous.

    Also because Neptune is close to conjoining Venus, when it is at the Nadir two minutes later at 2:35 am CET, at the base of the skewed Prime Vertical, it complements at an oblique angle the Moon nearing opposition with Mars, with the two
    appearing aligned slightly off the Ecliptic. The Mars lunar opposition technically takes place later that morning at 3:05 am CET, yet the rough impression exists in the earlier charts.

    So two minutes after the potential Venusian debasement cataclysmic onset, Neptune and the Moon separately define a dual-axis correspondence for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity from III.3.

    Venus reaching the Nadir ends the Saturnin interval; and the Vestal Reign culminates in the fateful Grand Trine with Lilith and the Ascendant - it takes 'three to tango' in forming the Chalice.

    The Vertex around 16 degrees Cancer has no aspects involving or competing significantly with the transitory Chalice Grand Trine.

    The principal celestial bodies are then beneath the Ecliptic, excluding Mars near the Descendant: Ceres, Lilith and Pallas share the overhead Vault, compliant with V.65 stipulating Vesta herself would not be visible.

    Since the Ascendant is involved, the Grand Trine points towards the Left, rather than appearing like a Balance, or moving in rotation.
    Saturnin Cup Debases Queen Venus In Lunar Temple [22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST]

    The temporal separation between the 6 February 2023 sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border and the cataclysmic onset is slightly more extensive than presumed, accepting the Vienne date as 22 February 2023 for Saint Paschasius, bishop of
    Vienne, who was granted supremacy over seven provinces by Pope Sylvester I circa 322. Two Lombardy dates are adjacent: Saint Peter Damian with a 21 February feast was legate to Milan for Pope Nicholas II circa 1059; and Blessed Anselm of Milan was a
    friar whose body was enshrined in the church of Santa Maria della Pace after his death in 1481.

    The Magi Gift Attack theme acquires the necessary date of a saint associated with myrrh via Saint Polycarp, bishop of Smyrna (the location known for myrrh), who was to be burned alive in a stadium circa 155, assuring his executioners there was no
    need to nail him to the pyre: from a witness account, "Like a ship's sail swirling in the wind, the flame became as it were a dome encircling the martyr's body. Surrounded by the fire, his body was like a bread that is baked, or gold and silver white-hot
    in a furnace, not like flesh that has been burnt. So sweet a fragrance came to us that it was like that of burning incense, or some other costly and sweet-smelling gum." So the saint associated with the Myrrh location set aflame exhibited the properties
    of the gummy substance, although Polycarp did not perish by the fire.

    Perceiving Polycarp to be unharmed, the execution proceeded using a dagger to stab him to death, then his corpse was burned.

    "'I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire'"
    {Revelation 3:18}

    Both Blessed Anselm of Milan and Saint Polycarp share the 23 February feast day.

    Other prophetic references become clear around these dates.

    The feast of the Chair of Saint Peter is 22 February, commemorating the founding of the See of Antioch; the Roman celebration also included 18 February. Both Masses include the same 'Collect': "O God, who, together with the power of the keys of
    the Kingdom of Heaven, didst bestow on blessed Peter Thy Apostle the pontificate of binding and loosing, grant that by the aid of his intersection we may be released from the yoke of our sins."
    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Gaul to shake, the Bark to become imperiled

    Line 3 of X.58 could be presenting two references for 22 February 2023, Gaul and Vienne being for Saint Paschasius, and the Bark indicating not the current papacy at Rome, but the feast for the Chair of Saint Peter.

    About a hundred Grand Trines were examined from 16 to 25 February 2023, discovering some anomalies. A Double Grand Trine oriented like the Star of David was found for Geneva charts 17 February 2023, without the requisite ominous conditions; for
    the afternoon of 21 February 2023, Fortune and the Vertex moved in trine-alignment to form successive Grand Trines with several celestial bodies (the Moon, Neptune, Venus, Vesta, Jupiter, Chiron and Juno).

    The Part of Fortune is clearly hinted in II.66, and the Vertex (as near-anagram Vitrix) in V.18, where 'son vitrix' works translated as 'his Vertex' for Trinitarian co-founder Saint Felix of Valois. The suggestion from V.65 of principals in the
    affair being hidden could relate to the unseen conceptual points: Vesta as the lady on coals no longer being visible speaks to atmospheric changes rendering the overhead Vault obscured.

    The veil seemed lifted on the pivotal contribution of Saturn when it was realized the ringed planet was involved in only one Grand Trine during the interval examined - and it emerged as a variation on the post-Full Super Moon 16 July 2022 2:06 am
    CEST condition compliant with IV.31, however no longer with the Moon near Saturn. The previous Saturnin Grand Trine was on the false-Midheaven Apex of the Eleventh House cusp: its base has Venus on one side, and the merging of Fortune and the Vertex on
    the other. The new Saturnin Grand Trine occurs 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET, with the base having the Vertex on one side, and Fortune on the other.

    Thus the lunar conjunctions could be separated for Neptune, presenting the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3, and the Vestal sepulchral fire of X.6: the Moon would be passing Venus for the catastrophe to debase her specifically.

    A Venusian Reign starts by entering Aries 20 February 2023 8:56 am CET, and ends when exceeding the relative location of Lilith, 24 February 2023 4:07 pm CET. Venus as Mystery Babylon from Revelation receives her Cup of divine wrath while sitting
    as Queen, rejecting The Great Mourning for Jesus Christ, while asserting (quite accurately of herself as representing modern culture) that she is no widow who might feel such emotional grief.

    The Neptune lunar conjunction occurs 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET at 24 degrees 17 minutes Pisces.

    For Geneva on 22 February 2023 using CET:

    10:26 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 2 degrees 32 minutes Aries;

    10:47 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Apex at false Midheaven on Eleventh House cusp (28 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius), base consisting of Fortune (28 degrees 44 minutes Gemini) and the Vertex (26 degrees 47 minutes Libra), and the East Point
    separately merged with the Node - this is the critical time for cataclysmic onset -

    << 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST / 1:47 am PST >>;

    12:07 pm - Pisces Sun and Aries Moon adjacent at 3 degrees 33 minutes - 'De Sol et Lune' ('With Sun and Moon') from V.66;

    4:52 pm - Vesta lunar conjunct at 6 degrees 24 minutes Aries.

    The final line of V.66 skips ahead to the hybrid solar eclipse of 20 April 2023, visible for Indonesia and Australia: the date coincides with the feast for Saint Servilian, a Trajan martyr beheaded in Rome circa 117.
    Ardente lampe Traian d'or burine
    Burning lamp engraved with Trajan gold

    *

    '...When He Entered
    Through The Gate
    Of Jerusalem..'
    The ringed sports trophy in the foreground of the Sgt Pepper tableau cover image suggests planet Saturn in a warped way, perhaps disclosing intentional references to the Solar System: the jovial circus song aligned with Jupiter energy ending Side
    One was resumed with the long, slow sad song as George Harrison's compositional contribution, immersed in a saturnine tone that was supposedly relieved with deliberate laughter in the outro.

    The similarity of the two Geneva Saturnin Upright Grand Trines suggests the 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST post-Full Super Moon version (IV.31) was the falsifying Cupbearer from the final line of VI.89, with the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET variation
    presenting the Chalice that is drained: its orientation simultaneously recalls the Trinity and the Cup activated by being overturned or inverted.

    The 18 December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine matches the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' because it shifted immediately into a reconstituted version as Fortune proceeded, however this successive pair of Fortune Grand Trines was
    preceeded by the actual 'Chief Pail Of Water,' meaning a Saturnin Grand Trine. When Saturn passed Midheaven in Aquarius 4:22 pm CET, it was in a Grand Trine with the Libran Moon and the Ascendant in Gemini; the Offspring Successive Grand Trines followed
    around 5:35 pm and 6:05 pm CET respectively, as the 'son led in spinning.' The chronology was established by the final line setting the release of Griner as the female captive conducted to freedom through the prior 7 December 2022 association with
    Antioch via hagiology.

    Likewise the Surprise Grand Trine emerging when Fortune has its leap at Dusk 13 December 2022 4:45 pm CET as Saturnin, since Fortune was with Saturn at Midheaven before jumping to the position for a Saturnin-Ascendant-Fortune Grand Trine.

    Dans bois caches soldats jour de Lucie
    Qui ne fut onc si horrible trone

    Near the woods soldiers hidden on the day for Lucy
    For whom there never was so horrible a Throne

    The theme of IX.68 goes beyond mere potentiality in the 'hidden soldiers' as still-subterranean and intact immense magnets of the LHC, with the identifying image of the Black Forest proximity: this day appears designated for the Supreme Being
    Throne issuing the punishing order, that Queen Babylon, as Venus then-reigning, should have the cup she mixed for herself mixed double. The Fortune jump into the Surprise Grand Trine made a double for the simultaneous Grand Trine of Ceres and Pluto with
    the East Point. The Revelation passage has been illuminated so the actual date could be derived.

    The Saturnin Grand Trine was established as the major instrument of Divine Fury for the cataclysm through its prior variant forms.

    The Mobile sign of I.54 was a Solar Grand Trine featured for its Geneva Venusian Nadir resembling a tipping Balance on the Sun-Fulcrum 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, time-equivalent for the US House chamber being announced for the Republican
    majority, whose extreme goals and tactics would prove alarming when the debt-ceiling limit later fell on the feast for a Lombard saint, as reflected in V.42.

    The Lombard reference in VI.16 is Apocalyptic, with heavenly angels carrying out the dark task, intending to infuse commentary on the Tavern shooting at another Lombard feast date, by staging the primary fiery event at the Black Forest place with
    another Lombard association. This manifestation provides potentially double meaning for V.42, with terror for Lombard folk under the Balance, not being tipped but overthrown.

    So the 22 February 2023 return to the Upright Grand Trine form with Saturn at the Vertical-Apex Eleventh House cusp, from that same discovery for 16 July 2022, is especially ominous.

    The lines that refer to lunar conjunctions in the cataclysmic sequence can be identified, with temple implications.

    Corinth, Ephese lors en perplexite
    Corinth, Ephesus then in perplexity
    [III.3, Neptune lunar conjunct 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET]
    Sera meurtri a Venus faisant voeu
    Will be murdered at Venus making a vow

    [VIII.32, Venus lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 10:26 am CET]

    Vesta sepulcre feu eteint apparaitre

    Vesta sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear

    [X.6, Vesta lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 4:52 pm CET]

    Conversely, the Saturnin clues seem to relate primarily to the activating version of the critical 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Vertex, with those enduring its effects being dubbed 'The Saturnins.'

    Les Saturnins brules par les meuniers

    The Saturnins burned by the millers

    [VI.17]

    Par Saturnins endurera le pire

    The worst will be endured by the Saturnins

    [V.24]

    Saturne d'or en fer se changera

    Saturn with gold will convert itself into sword

    A major difference in the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine from the 16 July 2022 version is that Saturn is near the Sun instead of the Moon; Saturn's solar conjunct occurred 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET (noting match with V.42
    enumeration), for the golden factor that designates destructive manifestation.
    Reactions to The Beatles' seven-year presentation varied between regions and timeframes, with societies attempting to judge them based on cultural precepts, while lacking substantive comprehension of their intentions and tactics. A family member
    sends me a text about being certain they were diabolical because of a hand signal made during the promotion for the "Yellow Submarine" animated film, which is like saying the Hopis were like Nazis because they both used the swastika, or that a symbol can
    only have one meaning by however appropriates it - a link to the raw footage from the 11 August 1966 Chicago press conference was provided, without receiving any comment on what the group members actually said when the critical subject of Christianity
    unambiguously emerged. People will generally believe what they want, and utterly disregard what creates cognitive dissonance for them.

    When the known history is integrated with the esoteric facets of the group story, what emerges is neither common knowledge nor easily anticipated: the hysteria-inducing effect of the subliminal psychological transference characterized their touring
    years as a cultural phenomenon, while having little to do with the various productions being planned for recordings; reconstructing the famous episodes with some insight puts a judicial mirror up to contemporary society more than the band, who instead
    exhibit sardonically clever auditory ideas being manifested for an oblivious world, constantly reminding itself that something vaguely monumental was happening, without understanding its profound implications.

    The Beatles eventually won the battle over style: their early rhythm-and-blues approach was racially provocative; baroque and symphonic leanings in the middle presented neo-Classical legitimacy; in their late group phase an unassuming purity emerged,
    so the Sunday Church feeling for "Let It Be" seemed completely genuine. The same elder who scoffed scornfully at their debut on the Ed Sullivan show would express a spiritual devotion to the McCartney tune "Mull Of Kintyre," without consciously realizing
    what the bagpipe sequence might have been conveying. The struggle to delve into their substance remains unfulfilled, since they themselves would not lead into that uncharted territory, merely asserting there were plenty of things yet unconsidered.

    The process outlined of Christian regression appears subliminally expressed in their debut album cover of "Baby It's You," where the repeated backing vocal accusation "Cheat! Cheat!" could be applied to Jesus being said to have 'cheated Death.' The
    scatted "Sha-La-La"s appear in two forms: the longer version suggests,

    'Shall I Write
    Another
    LAW?'

    Ending this repetition with the truncated variation implies more simply,

    'Shall I Write A Law?'

    The instrumental solo there, with heavy electric guitar augmented by George Martin note-matching on the brighter-sounding celeste (whose name connotes 'heavenly'), an achievement while limited to twin-track mono, could have given away the entire
    agenda, in part explaining,

    'Start With The Ending:
    His Ascension -
    To Heaven...'

    Such a covert statement of objective had within it the eventual requirement for a song like "Penny Lane" with its triumphal entry into Jerusalem subtext, going forth with trumpets on horseback to emulate the Master Jesus - and that became its own
    real phenomenon, featuring the Fab Foursome all riding horses. The early group name "The SILVER Beetles" when spoken and reversed sounds like it ends with the word "Horsemen," suggesting a concept in tandem with the Revelation-parody early press release
    by Lennon.

    The group created an audio catalog with visual components possessing certain properties, thus these were created experiences that could be enjoyed or appreciated. Acknowledging prophetic fulfillment is not a passive-receptive endeavor, instead
    comparing a set of perceived parameters against any compliant conditions in reality: thus re-defining ambiguous terms, and assessing available information for relevancy is a continual challenge towards attaining clarity. In our current times there is not
    the unpopular Vietnam War ostensibly against communism, but instead the invasion of Ukraine threatening an established democratic nation. Prophecy may allow us to find this moment in history, and attain awareness of its potential opportunities and
    pitfalls: the hurdle that must be overcome is to properly define the given terms.

    In the ongoing endeavor, a correct assessment can exist from judicial astrology, without generating media coverage.

    High-Born Ones Meet As The Saturnin Chalice Is Doubled After Falsifying Version
    [1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET / 4:30 pm EST / 1:30 pm EST]

    The 22 February 2023 date as Vienne (via Saint Paschasius) in IX.69 could be valid for the Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Vertex (local to Geneva), subsequent to the Lyons date 15 February (via Saint Bonitus) when the Nepal plane crash
    occurred.

    Beyond Lyons, Vienne, such great hail for them

    {IX.69}


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    During the triangular configuration, Venus in Pisces will be in a trine with the Ascendant in Cancer, both briefly at 19 degrees 12 minutes: this aspect complicating the simultaneous Saturnin Lunar Grand Trine with the East Point
    appears to be how Venus as Mystery Babylon is debased with the Cup of divine wrath emerging for Geneva (the East Point is locally calculated). The Venusian orientation beyond the Midheaven point thus appears inconsequential.
    The subject of religious icons would have become part of The Beatles' myth had they completed their vision for the Butcher photo sessions: in response to the British dismissal of John Lennon's religious views in the controversial Cleave
    interview article as projecting a "holier than thou" attitude, they planned a triptych with the shocking Butcher image as the centerpiece - the undone finishing touch was to be gilded haloes surrounding their heads. The mock reverence was said to convey
    that they saw themselves as merely flesh and blood, however it seemed to work on several levels, and since many found the image disturbing as a US album sleeve cover, that photo version was immediately recalled and pasted over with a more innocuous image.


    Continuing the projected timing of a cataclysm for which the recent quakes taking over 25,000 lives was a formidable precursor, the moment of a particular Grand Trine configuration was deduced to be the objective.

    The branches for Theodora as the saint widow suggests some day beyond 11 February; the High-Born from II.92 being Saint Richard of Lucca for the Gallic King of VIII.32 for 7 February merely puts the striking of the cataclysmic event past
    the date of the massively lethal sibling quakes at the Turkey-Syrian border on the 6th.

    The Cup-Bearer falsifying in VI.89 signifies a wrong date, as following the widow and Virgin clue to 11 February, rather than a choice between Grand Trines on a specific date.

    The V.18 phrase 'son Vitrix' interpreted for 'Sans-Vertex' infers by reverse corollary 'Vertex-Without,' a situation where the Vertex is occupied outside the Grand Trine pattern, rather than negatively asserting an inactive non-role.

    A Lombardy feast recurrence should coincide: Saint Juventius, bishop of Pavia, is honored on 12 February; and Blessed Jordan of Saxony was prior-provincial of the Order of Preachers in Lombardy circa 1221 - in 1237 Jordan during a
    pilgrimage to the Holy Land drowned in a shipwreck off the coast of Syria - he has a feast on 13 February.

    For Geneva on 13 February 2023 using CET:

    1 am - Mercury exceeds the locational value of Vesta, thus commencing a Vestal Reign to last until the Sun enters Pisces (18 February 2023 11:35 pm CET);

    3:49 pm - Neptune lunar trine - a possible condition for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3;

    5:01 pm - Solar-Lunar square aspect - recalling 'Sol et Lune' from V.66;

    5:53 pm - Dusk brings a maximum jump for Fortune (II.66), from the top of the chart to the lunar position at the bottom;

    6:07 pm - Saturn falling commences the Saturnin interval;

    6:39 to 6:48 pm - Grand Trine consisting of Lilith (4 degrees 3 minutes Leo), Vesta (2 degrees 26 minutes Aries), and the Part of Fortune (moving between both relative locations in Sagittarius, oriented at the bottom of the chart) - the
    fiery nature of Vesta and the Wind Succubus Lilith suggest this Chalice portends ill-Fortune;

    6:43 pm - Mercury conjoined by the Vertex, in rough opposition with Lilith, and Fortune sextile the Vertex - this extraneous Vertex activity outside the concurrent Grand Trine formation could satisfy V.18, for the critical time in the
    Saturnin interval -

    << 13 February 2023 6:43 pm CET / 12:43 pm EST / 9:43 am PST >>;

    8:19 pm - Venus falls at the Descendant, with Fortune at the Nadir;

    8:30 pm - Neptune falls;

    9:15 pm - Vesta at the Descendant in a rectangular formation with the Ascendant, Lilith and Mercury (Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6);

    9:52 pm - Saturn lunar square.

    The perplexity in this application would regard the Neptune lunar trine, rather than Neptune falling local to Geneva; the next lunar aspect with the Sun as a square would be the prevalent condition for the glittering metals event, as in V.
    66.

    Both the Saturnin interval upon local descent and the subsequent Saturn lunar square could be the subjects of different lines, with context clarifying some ambiguity.
    Post-Vertex Saturnin Chalice To Vex Paternal Amours {14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST}

    The August 1999 Izmit quake was an early major event conjectured prior to occurrence, although the location being named in V.54 as Bisance for Byzantium was not integrated substantively into the awareness of the Cassini spacecraft gravity
    assist engaging during the Earth-flyby (the quake preceding by 20.5 hours) through cross-referencing a set of quatrains. The line of totality for the August 1999 solar eclipse during a Fixed Grand Cross was the transpiercing King in V.54, crossing the
    Black Sea and leaving Byzantium bloody. Also the final line of V.86 depicted the quake as Byzantium crushed by the head of Persia.

    I could sense the sibling quakes of 6 February 2023, striking instead the Turkish border with Syria, as reflected in VI.82, 89, and II.92 line 3, would have a similar high death toll ultimately - and the same story of weakly designed
    structures has emerged. Rescue efforts could trigger avalanches of debris; miners were devising tunnels to assist those operations. The Turkish reference in IV.58 was for 7 December 2022 via hagiology, for timing of the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange. The
    Turkey-Syria border quakes comprise the first stage of the Nephew prophecy (via saintly nephews of Saint Patrick), for Blood, with the second Nephew stage through Fear emerging later.

    The first week of the year had the Speakership debacle foretold in the final line of II.92 using Saint Telemachus; the Mercury solar conjunct of 7 January 2023 attended the beating of Tyre Nichols for the Memphis incitement of X.79; the
    next day the Brasilia insurrection presented the flowering of Hercules' lies, and the people trapped from exiting the presidential palace from II.66. The Nepal plane crash on 15 January 2023 complied with the Lyons-Marseilles encoded event; the Half Moon
    Bay shooting was on the Ulm day of 23 January for Blessed Henry Suso as in VIII.34. Each quatrain case carries its own set of messages, with complex logical intersections.

    The Victor comparison between IV.95 and VI.70 recalls the Big Victor character played by Victor Mature in the 1968 group-ending film "Head" by The Monkees, when their television show had been cancelled, as an inside-joke mocking their RCA
    corporate taskmasters, continuing the extremely subtle pop culture theme that recently surfaced in the prophecies.

    https://www.neatorama.com/2012/02/16/head-the-monkees-strange-movie/

    The Magi Gift Attack theme for the cataclysmic onset in II.92 (fire color of Gold), V.16 (smoke like Frankincense), and VIII.34 (injury and tomb both calling for Myrrh) thus seems to co-exist for this apparent finale to the sequence.

    The 13 February 2023 2023 6:45 pm CET Grand Trine of Lilith-Vesta-Fortune was decidedly not 'Sans-Vertex' ('son vitrix') to satisfy the secret hint in V.18, since Mercury in opposition with triangle point Lilith was conspicuously conjoined
    by the Vertex: thus it could be the falsifying Cupbearer of VI.89, approaching the true Chalice of Divine Fury.

    The Vestal Reign will last until 18 February 2023, however the conditions for the descending celestial lineup being considered for Geneva will transition more quickly: as John Lennon explained of his famous group's demise, 'Wedding Bells
    are breaking up that old gang of mine.' First Venus and Neptune through their conjunction will effectively 'switch places' 15 February 2023 :30 pm CET; then the Sun will overtake Saturn 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET. These two changes alter the current
    compliance, as though backing the prophecy into a corner.

    A daily recurring Grand Trine involving the Midheaven point with Mercury and Ceres asserts itself on the evening of 14 February 2023, the Valentine's Day date corresponding with the 'fatherly amours' vexed in VI.89, on the final evening
    when the participants descending as V.65 suggests will have their ominous potential.

    For Geneva on 14 February 2023 using CET:

    5:55 pm - Dusk brings a jump of Fortune to about 26 degrees from the lunar position;

    6:04 pm - Saturn falling commences the fateful Saturnin interval;

    7:09 to 7:17 pm CET - Grand Trine of Mercury (4.5 degrees Aquarius) with Ceres (6.5 degrees Libra) and Midheaven (reaching 5.5 degrees Gemini 7:12 pm CET), the Vertex around 15 degrees Aquarius forms a weak trine with Mars in Gemini, and a
    weak sextile with Juno in Aries (so the Grand Trine does not seem significantly in an aspect with the Vertex), rendering the critical time -

    << 14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST / 10:12 am PST >>

    - while not yet overtaken by the skewed Nadir, the Moon then appears at the bottom of the chart;

    8:21 pm - Venus descends, presumably in the wake of the cataclysmic onset, thus being debased for X.28, with Fortune nearing the Moon;

    8:26 pm - Neptune at the Descendant simultaneous with the Part of Fortune reaching the Moon, thereby presenting the III.3 perplexity for Neptunian Corinth and lunar Ephesus;

    9:13 pm - Vesta reaching the Descendant is again in a rectangular formation with Mercury, Lilith, and the East Point, providing a visual fulfillment for the 'Vesta sepulchral fire' of X.6.

    The following evening a similar upright Grand Trine forms, yet it would be Neptune facing the debasing descent instead of Venus.

    The Saturn solar conjunct for Geneva 16 February 2023 will coincide with Dusk at 5:55 pm CET.

    The Vertex seems equally uninvolved with all three versions of the Midheaven-Mercury-Ceres Grand Trine on the three consecutive evenings 14 through 16 February 2023, yet only the Valentine's Day version bears the conditions given as ominous.

    The currently-daily Midheaven Grand Trine with Mercury and Ceres was probably not intended for the activating Chalice, but the slightly later Grand Trine where Fortune in Sagittarius passes between the relative locations of Lilith past 4
    degrees Leo and Vesta nearing 3 degrees Aries - that is an isolated triple correspondence in the Fire signs for Geneva 14 February 2023 7:49 pm to 7:55 pm CET [1:49 to 1:55 pm EST] omitted in error.
    Vestal Chalice For Venusian Nadir, Then Corinth & Ephesus Found In Axis {15 February 2023 2:33 am CET / 14 February 2023 8:33 pm EST / 5:33 pm PST}

    The requisite conditions in judicial astrology and emergent disastrous precursors have not failed in establishing an intricate trail towards an ultimate double cataclysm whose inevitability appears manifest - the cryptic veracity of the French
    prophecies allow some limited pre-event awareness, which should be refined, if only to facilitate post-mortem acknowledgement. Several major news events since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse have been featured as precursors, incorporating precise
    details beyond random happenings (the serial posting here should demonstrate some elaborations).

    The immense fatalities from the sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border 6 February 2023 occurred on the feast for two nephews of Saint Patrick, enacting II.92 line 3 - 'Great human murder, taken from the Great Nephew'; the situations in VI.
    82 and 89 match, and a complicated comparison between this Nephew of Blood and a later Nephew emerging through Fear appears in the process of current fulfillment.

    Viewing the chart for Geneva's Venusian Nadir 15 February 2023 2:33 am CET showed yet another Grand Trine, then with the Ascendant joining Lilith and Vesta: since Venus is in the debasing Nadir position, this instance is particularly ominous.

    Also because Neptune is close to conjoining Venus, when it is at the Nadir two minutes later at 2:35 am CET, at the base of the skewed Prime Vertical, it complements at an oblique angle the Moon nearing opposition with Mars, with the two
    appearing aligned slightly off the Ecliptic. The Mars lunar opposition technically takes place later that morning at 3:05 am CET, yet the rough impression exists in the earlier charts.

    So two minutes after the potential Venusian debasement cataclysmic onset, Neptune and the Moon separately define a dual-axis correspondence for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity from III.3.

    Venus reaching the Nadir ends the Saturnin interval; and the Vestal Reign culminates in the fateful Grand Trine with Lilith and the Ascendant - it takes 'three to tango' in forming the Chalice.

    The Vertex around 16 degrees Cancer has no aspects involving or competing significantly with the transitory Chalice Grand Trine.

    The principal celestial bodies are then beneath the Ecliptic, excluding Mars near the Descendant: Ceres, Lilith and Pallas share the overhead Vault, compliant with V.65 stipulating Vesta herself would not be visible.

    Since the Ascendant is involved, the Grand Trine points towards the Left, rather than appearing like a Balance, or moving in rotation.
    Saturnin Cup Debases Queen Venus In Lunar Temple [22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST]

    The temporal separation between the 6 February 2023 sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border and the cataclysmic onset is slightly more extensive than presumed, accepting the Vienne date as 22 February 2023 for Saint Paschasius, bishop of
    Vienne, who was granted supremacy over seven provinces by Pope Sylvester I circa 322. Two Lombardy dates are adjacent: Saint Peter Damian with a 21 February feast was legate to Milan for Pope Nicholas II circa 1059; and Blessed Anselm of Milan was a
    friar whose body was enshrined in the church of Santa Maria della Pace after his death in 1481.

    The Magi Gift Attack theme acquires the necessary date of a saint associated with myrrh via Saint Polycarp, bishop of Smyrna (the location known for myrrh), who was to be burned alive in a stadium circa 155, assuring his executioners there was no
    need to nail him to the pyre: from a witness account, "Like a ship's sail swirling in the wind, the flame became as it were a dome encircling the martyr's body. Surrounded by the fire, his body was like a bread that is baked, or gold and silver white-hot
    in a furnace, not like flesh that has been burnt. So sweet a fragrance came to us that it was like that of burning incense, or some other costly and sweet-smelling gum." So the saint associated with the Myrrh location set aflame exhibited the properties
    of the gummy substance, although Polycarp did not perish by the fire.

    Perceiving Polycarp to be unharmed, the execution proceeded using a dagger to stab him to death, then his corpse was burned.

    "'I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire'"
    {Revelation 3:18}

    Both Blessed Anselm of Milan and Saint Polycarp share the 23 February feast day.

    Other prophetic references become clear around these dates.

    The feast of the Chair of Saint Peter is 22 February, commemorating the founding of the See of Antioch; the Roman celebration also included 18 February. Both Masses include the same 'Collect': "O God, who, together with the power of the keys of
    the Kingdom of Heaven, didst bestow on blessed Peter Thy Apostle the pontificate of binding and loosing, grant that by the aid of his intersection we may be released from the yoke of our sins."
    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Gaul to shake, the Bark to become imperiled

    Line 3 of X.58 could be presenting two references for 22 February 2023, Gaul and Vienne being for Saint Paschasius, and the Bark indicating not the current papacy at Rome, but the feast for the Chair of Saint Peter.

    About a hundred Grand Trines were examined from 16 to 25 February 2023, discovering some anomalies. A Double Grand Trine oriented like the Star of David was found for Geneva charts 17 February 2023, without the requisite ominous conditions; for
    the afternoon of 21 February 2023, Fortune and the Vertex moved in trine-alignment to form successive Grand Trines with several celestial bodies (the Moon, Neptune, Venus, Vesta, Jupiter, Chiron and Juno).

    The Part of Fortune is clearly hinted in II.66, and the Vertex (as near-anagram Vitrix) in V.18, where 'son vitrix' works translated as 'his Vertex' for Trinitarian co-founder Saint Felix of Valois. The suggestion from V.65 of principals in the
    affair being hidden could relate to the unseen conceptual points: Vesta as the lady on coals no longer being visible speaks to atmospheric changes rendering the overhead Vault obscured.

    The veil seemed lifted on the pivotal contribution of Saturn when it was realized the ringed planet was involved in only one Grand Trine during the interval examined - and it emerged as a variation on the post-Full Super Moon 16 July 2022 2:06 am
    CEST condition compliant with IV.31, however no longer with the Moon near Saturn. The previous Saturnin Grand Trine was on the false-Midheaven Apex of the Eleventh House cusp: its base has Venus on one side, and the merging of Fortune and the Vertex on
    the other. The new Saturnin Grand Trine occurs 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET, with the base having the Vertex on one side, and Fortune on the other.

    Thus the lunar conjunctions could be separated for Neptune, presenting the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3, and the Vestal sepulchral fire of X.6: the Moon would be passing Venus for the catastrophe to debase her specifically.

    A Venusian Reign starts by entering Aries 20 February 2023 8:56 am CET, and ends when exceeding the relative location of Lilith, 24 February 2023 4:07 pm CET. Venus as Mystery Babylon from Revelation receives her Cup of divine wrath while sitting
    as Queen, rejecting The Great Mourning for Jesus Christ, while asserting (quite accurately of herself as representing modern culture) that she is no widow who might feel such emotional grief.

    The Neptune lunar conjunction occurs 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET at 24 degrees 17 minutes Pisces.

    For Geneva on 22 February 2023 using CET:

    10:26 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 2 degrees 32 minutes Aries;

    10:47 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Apex at false Midheaven on Eleventh House cusp (28 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius), base consisting of Fortune (28 degrees 44 minutes Gemini) and the Vertex (26 degrees 47 minutes Libra), and the East Point
    separately merged with the Node - this is the critical time for cataclysmic onset -

    << 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST / 1:47 am PST >>;

    12:07 pm - Pisces Sun and Aries Moon adjacent at 3 degrees 33 minutes - 'De Sol et Lune' ('With Sun and Moon') from V.66;

    4:52 pm - Vesta lunar conjunct at 6 degrees 24 minutes Aries.

    The final line of V.66 skips ahead to the hybrid solar eclipse of 20 April 2023, visible for Indonesia and Australia: the date coincides with the feast for Saint Servilian, a Trajan martyr beheaded in Rome circa 117.
    Ardente lampe Traian d'or burine
    Burning lamp engraved with Trajan gold

    *

    '...When He Entered
    Through The Gate
    Of Jerusalem..'
    The ringed sports trophy in the foreground of the Sgt Pepper tableau cover image suggests planet Saturn in a warped way, perhaps disclosing intentional references to the Solar System: the jovial circus song aligned with Jupiter energy ending Side
    One was resumed with the long, slow sad song as George Harrison's compositional contribution, immersed in a saturnine tone that was supposedly relieved with deliberate laughter in the outro.

    The similarity of the two Geneva Saturnin Upright Grand Trines suggests the 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST post-Full Super Moon version (IV.31) was the falsifying Cupbearer from the final line of VI.89, with the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET variation
    presenting the Chalice that is drained: its orientation simultaneously recalls the Trinity and the Cup activated by being overturned or inverted.

    The 18 December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine matches the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' because it shifted immediately into a reconstituted version as Fortune proceeded, however this successive pair of Fortune Grand Trines was
    preceeded by the actual 'Chief Pail Of Water,' meaning a Saturnin Grand Trine. When Saturn passed Midheaven in Aquarius 4:22 pm CET, it was in a Grand Trine with the Libran Moon and the Ascendant in Gemini; the Offspring Successive Grand Trines followed
    around 5:35 pm and 6:05 pm CET respectively, as the 'son led in spinning.' The chronology was established by the final line setting the release of Griner as the female captive conducted to freedom through the prior 7 December 2022 association with
    Antioch via hagiology.

    Likewise the Surprise Grand Trine emerging when Fortune has its leap at Dusk 13 December 2022 4:45 pm CET as Saturnin, since Fortune was with Saturn at Midheaven before jumping to the position for a Saturnin-Ascendant-Fortune Grand Trine.

    Dans bois caches soldats jour de Lucie
    Qui ne fut onc si horrible trone

    Near the woods soldiers hidden on the day for Lucy
    For whom there never was so horrible a Throne

    The theme of IX.68 goes beyond mere potentiality in the 'hidden soldiers' as still-subterranean and intact immense magnets of the LHC, with the identifying image of the Black Forest proximity: this day appears designated for the Supreme Being
    Throne issuing the punishing order, that Queen Babylon, as Venus then-reigning, should have the cup she mixed for herself mixed double. The Fortune jump into the Surprise Grand Trine made a double for the simultaneous Grand Trine of Ceres and Pluto with
    the East Point. The Revelation passage has been illuminated so the actual date could be derived.

    The Saturnin Grand Trine was established as the major instrument of Divine Fury for the cataclysm through its prior variant forms.

    The Mobile sign of I.54 was a Solar Grand Trine featured for its Geneva Venusian Nadir resembling a tipping Balance on the Sun-Fulcrum 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, time-equivalent for the US House chamber being announced for the Republican
    majority, whose extreme goals and tactics would prove alarming when the debt-ceiling limit later fell on the feast for a Lombard saint, as reflected in V.42.

    The Lombard reference in VI.16 is Apocalyptic, with heavenly angels carrying out the dark task, intending to infuse commentary on the Tavern shooting at another Lombard feast date, by staging the primary fiery event at the Black Forest place with
    another Lombard association. This manifestation provides potentially double meaning for V.42, with terror for Lombard folk under the Balance, not being tipped but overthrown.

    So the 22 February 2023 return to the Upright Grand Trine form with Saturn at the Vertical-Apex Eleventh House cusp, from that same discovery for 16 July 2022, is especially ominous.

    The lines that refer to lunar conjunctions in the cataclysmic sequence can be identified, with temple implications.

    Corinth, Ephese lors en perplexite
    Corinth, Ephesus then in perplexity
    [III.3, Neptune lunar conjunct 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET]
    Sera meurtri a Venus faisant voeu
    Will be murdered at Venus making a vow

    [VIII.32, Venus lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 10:26 am CET]

    Vesta sepulcre feu eteint apparaitre

    Vesta sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear

    [X.6, Vesta lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 4:52 pm CET]

    Conversely, the Saturnin clues seem to relate primarily to the activating version of the critical 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Vertex, with those enduring its effects being dubbed 'The Saturnins.'

    Les Saturnins brules par les meuniers

    The Saturnins burned by the millers

    [VI.17]

    Par Saturnins endurera le pire

    The worst will be endured by the Saturnins

    [V.24]

    Saturne d'or en fer se changera

    Saturn with gold will convert itself into sword

    A major difference in the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine from the 16 July 2022 version is that Saturn is near the Sun instead of the Moon; Saturn's solar conjunct occurred 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET (noting match with V.42
    enumeration), for the golden factor that designates destructive manifestation.
    Reactions to The Beatles' seven-year presentation varied between regions and timeframes, with societies attempting to judge them based on cultural precepts, while lacking substantive comprehension of their intentions and tactics. A family member
    sends me a text about being certain they were diabolical because of a hand signal made during the promotion for the "Yellow Submarine" animated film, which is like saying the Hopis were like Nazis because they both used the swastika, or that a symbol can
    only have one meaning by however appropriates it - a link to the raw footage from the 11 August 1966 Chicago press conference was provided, without receiving any comment on what the group members actually said when the critical subject of Christianity
    unambiguously emerged. People will generally believe what they want, and utterly disregard what creates cognitive dissonance for them.

    When the known history is integrated with the esoteric facets of the group story, what emerges is neither common knowledge nor easily anticipated: the hysteria-inducing effect of the subliminal psychological transference characterized their touring
    years as a cultural phenomenon, while having little to do with the various productions being planned for recordings; reconstructing the famous episodes with some insight puts a judicial mirror up to contemporary society more than the band, who instead
    exhibit sardonically clever auditory ideas being manifested for an oblivious world, constantly reminding itself that something vaguely monumental was happening, without understanding its profound implications.

    The Beatles eventually won the battle over style: their early rhythm-and-blues approach was racially provocative; baroque and symphonic leanings in the middle presented neo-Classical legitimacy; in their late group phase an unassuming purity emerged,
    so the Sunday Church feeling for "Let It Be" seemed completely genuine. The same elder who scoffed scornfully at their debut on the Ed Sullivan show would express a spiritual devotion to the McCartney tune "Mull Of Kintyre," without consciously realizing
    what the bagpipe sequence might have been conveying. The struggle to delve into their substance remains unfulfilled, since they themselves would not lead into that uncharted territory, merely asserting there were plenty of things yet unconsidered.

    The process outlined of Christian regression appears subliminally expressed in their debut album cover of "Baby It's You," where the repeated backing vocal accusation "Cheat! Cheat!" could be applied to Jesus being said to have 'cheated Death.' The
    scatted "Sha-La-La"s appear in two forms: the longer version suggests,

    'Shall I Write
    Another
    LAW?'

    Ending this repetition with the truncated variation implies more simply,

    'Shall I Write A Law?'

    The instrumental solo there, with heavy electric guitar augmented by George Martin note-matching on the brighter-sounding celeste (whose name connotes 'heavenly'), an achievement while limited to twin-track mono, could have given away the entire
    agenda, in part explaining,

    'Start With The Ending:
    His Ascension -
    To Heaven...'

    Such a covert statement of objective had within it the eventual requirement for a song like "Penny Lane" with its triumphal entry into Jerusalem subtext, going forth with trumpets on horseback to emulate the Master Jesus - and that became its own
    real phenomenon, featuring the Fab Foursome all riding horses. The early group name "The SILVER Beetles" when spoken and reversed sounds like it ends with the word "Horsemen," suggesting a concept in tandem with the Revelation-parody early press release
    by Lennon.

    The group created an audio catalog with visual components possessing certain properties, thus these were created experiences that could be enjoyed or appreciated. Acknowledging prophetic fulfillment is not a passive-receptive endeavor, instead
    comparing a set of perceived parameters against any compliant conditions in reality: thus re-defining ambiguous terms, and assessing available information for relevancy is a continual challenge towards attaining clarity. In our current times there is not
    the unpopular Vietnam War ostensibly against communism, but instead the invasion of Ukraine threatening an established democratic nation. Prophecy may allow us to find this moment in history, and attain awareness of its potential opportunities and
    pitfalls: the hurdle that must be overcome is to properly define the given terms.

    In the ongoing endeavor, a correct assessment can exist from judicial astrology, without generating media coverage.

    High-Born Ones Meet As The Saturnin Chalice Is Doubled After Falsifying Version
    [1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET / 4:30 pm EST / 1:30 pm EST]

    The 22 February 2023 date as Vienne (via Saint Paschasius) in IX.69 could be valid for the Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Vertex (local to Geneva), subsequent to the Lyons date 15 February (via Saint Bonitus) when the Nepal plane crash
    occurred.

    Beyond Lyons, Vienne, such great hail for them

    {IX.69}


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  • From Pamela Brown@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Sun Mar 5 11:22:24 2023
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    The critical Geneva Grand Trine from 11 February 2023 appears to be at 2:53 pm CET [8:53 am EST / 5:53 am PST] - it arrives about 2.5 hours into the Mercurial Reign which commences 11 February 2023 12:23 pm CET (when Mercury enters
    Aquarius). Several Grand Trines for the day were observed, with one found compliant.

    During the triangular configuration, Venus in Pisces will be in a trine with the Ascendant in Cancer, both briefly at 19 degrees 12 minutes: this aspect complicating the simultaneous Saturnin Lunar Grand Trine with the East Point
    appears to be how Venus as Mystery Babylon is debased with the Cup of divine wrath emerging for Geneva (the East Point is locally calculated). The Venusian orientation beyond the Midheaven point thus appears inconsequential.
    The subject of religious icons would have become part of The Beatles' myth had they completed their vision for the Butcher photo sessions: in response to the British dismissal of John Lennon's religious views in the controversial Cleave
    interview article as projecting a "holier than thou" attitude, they planned a triptych with the shocking Butcher image as the centerpiece - the undone finishing touch was to be gilded haloes surrounding their heads. The mock reverence was said to convey
    that they saw themselves as merely flesh and blood, however it seemed to work on several levels, and since many found the image disturbing as a US album sleeve cover, that photo version was immediately recalled and pasted over with a more innocuous image.


    Continuing the projected timing of a cataclysm for which the recent quakes taking over 25,000 lives was a formidable precursor, the moment of a particular Grand Trine configuration was deduced to be the objective.

    The branches for Theodora as the saint widow suggests some day beyond 11 February; the High-Born from II.92 being Saint Richard of Lucca for the Gallic King of VIII.32 for 7 February merely puts the striking of the cataclysmic event
    past the date of the massively lethal sibling quakes at the Turkey-Syrian border on the 6th.

    The Cup-Bearer falsifying in VI.89 signifies a wrong date, as following the widow and Virgin clue to 11 February, rather than a choice between Grand Trines on a specific date.

    The V.18 phrase 'son Vitrix' interpreted for 'Sans-Vertex' infers by reverse corollary 'Vertex-Without,' a situation where the Vertex is occupied outside the Grand Trine pattern, rather than negatively asserting an inactive non-role.

    A Lombardy feast recurrence should coincide: Saint Juventius, bishop of Pavia, is honored on 12 February; and Blessed Jordan of Saxony was prior-provincial of the Order of Preachers in Lombardy circa 1221 - in 1237 Jordan during a
    pilgrimage to the Holy Land drowned in a shipwreck off the coast of Syria - he has a feast on 13 February.

    For Geneva on 13 February 2023 using CET:

    1 am - Mercury exceeds the locational value of Vesta, thus commencing a Vestal Reign to last until the Sun enters Pisces (18 February 2023 11:35 pm CET);

    3:49 pm - Neptune lunar trine - a possible condition for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3;

    5:01 pm - Solar-Lunar square aspect - recalling 'Sol et Lune' from V.66;

    5:53 pm - Dusk brings a maximum jump for Fortune (II.66), from the top of the chart to the lunar position at the bottom;

    6:07 pm - Saturn falling commences the Saturnin interval;

    6:39 to 6:48 pm - Grand Trine consisting of Lilith (4 degrees 3 minutes Leo), Vesta (2 degrees 26 minutes Aries), and the Part of Fortune (moving between both relative locations in Sagittarius, oriented at the bottom of the chart) - the
    fiery nature of Vesta and the Wind Succubus Lilith suggest this Chalice portends ill-Fortune;

    6:43 pm - Mercury conjoined by the Vertex, in rough opposition with Lilith, and Fortune sextile the Vertex - this extraneous Vertex activity outside the concurrent Grand Trine formation could satisfy V.18, for the critical time in the
    Saturnin interval -

    << 13 February 2023 6:43 pm CET / 12:43 pm EST / 9:43 am PST >>;

    8:19 pm - Venus falls at the Descendant, with Fortune at the Nadir;

    8:30 pm - Neptune falls;

    9:15 pm - Vesta at the Descendant in a rectangular formation with the Ascendant, Lilith and Mercury (Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6);

    9:52 pm - Saturn lunar square.

    The perplexity in this application would regard the Neptune lunar trine, rather than Neptune falling local to Geneva; the next lunar aspect with the Sun as a square would be the prevalent condition for the glittering metals event, as in
    V.66.

    Both the Saturnin interval upon local descent and the subsequent Saturn lunar square could be the subjects of different lines, with context clarifying some ambiguity.
    Post-Vertex Saturnin Chalice To Vex Paternal Amours {14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST}

    The August 1999 Izmit quake was an early major event conjectured prior to occurrence, although the location being named in V.54 as Bisance for Byzantium was not integrated substantively into the awareness of the Cassini spacecraft gravity
    assist engaging during the Earth-flyby (the quake preceding by 20.5 hours) through cross-referencing a set of quatrains. The line of totality for the August 1999 solar eclipse during a Fixed Grand Cross was the transpiercing King in V.54, crossing the
    Black Sea and leaving Byzantium bloody. Also the final line of V.86 depicted the quake as Byzantium crushed by the head of Persia.

    I could sense the sibling quakes of 6 February 2023, striking instead the Turkish border with Syria, as reflected in VI.82, 89, and II.92 line 3, would have a similar high death toll ultimately - and the same story of weakly designed
    structures has emerged. Rescue efforts could trigger avalanches of debris; miners were devising tunnels to assist those operations. The Turkish reference in IV.58 was for 7 December 2022 via hagiology, for timing of the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange. The
    Turkey-Syria border quakes comprise the first stage of the Nephew prophecy (via saintly nephews of Saint Patrick), for Blood, with the second Nephew stage through Fear emerging later.

    The first week of the year had the Speakership debacle foretold in the final line of II.92 using Saint Telemachus; the Mercury solar conjunct of 7 January 2023 attended the beating of Tyre Nichols for the Memphis incitement of X.79; the
    next day the Brasilia insurrection presented the flowering of Hercules' lies, and the people trapped from exiting the presidential palace from II.66. The Nepal plane crash on 15 January 2023 complied with the Lyons-Marseilles encoded event; the Half Moon
    Bay shooting was on the Ulm day of 23 January for Blessed Henry Suso as in VIII.34. Each quatrain case carries its own set of messages, with complex logical intersections.

    The Victor comparison between IV.95 and VI.70 recalls the Big Victor character played by Victor Mature in the 1968 group-ending film "Head" by The Monkees, when their television show had been cancelled, as an inside-joke mocking their RCA
    corporate taskmasters, continuing the extremely subtle pop culture theme that recently surfaced in the prophecies.

    https://www.neatorama.com/2012/02/16/head-the-monkees-strange-movie/

    The Magi Gift Attack theme for the cataclysmic onset in II.92 (fire color of Gold), V.16 (smoke like Frankincense), and VIII.34 (injury and tomb both calling for Myrrh) thus seems to co-exist for this apparent finale to the sequence.

    The 13 February 2023 2023 6:45 pm CET Grand Trine of Lilith-Vesta-Fortune was decidedly not 'Sans-Vertex' ('son vitrix') to satisfy the secret hint in V.18, since Mercury in opposition with triangle point Lilith was conspicuously
    conjoined by the Vertex: thus it could be the falsifying Cupbearer of VI.89, approaching the true Chalice of Divine Fury.

    The Vestal Reign will last until 18 February 2023, however the conditions for the descending celestial lineup being considered for Geneva will transition more quickly: as John Lennon explained of his famous group's demise, 'Wedding Bells
    are breaking up that old gang of mine.' First Venus and Neptune through their conjunction will effectively 'switch places' 15 February 2023 :30 pm CET; then the Sun will overtake Saturn 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET. These two changes alter the current
    compliance, as though backing the prophecy into a corner.

    A daily recurring Grand Trine involving the Midheaven point with Mercury and Ceres asserts itself on the evening of 14 February 2023, the Valentine's Day date corresponding with the 'fatherly amours' vexed in VI.89, on the final evening
    when the participants descending as V.65 suggests will have their ominous potential.

    For Geneva on 14 February 2023 using CET:

    5:55 pm - Dusk brings a jump of Fortune to about 26 degrees from the lunar position;

    6:04 pm - Saturn falling commences the fateful Saturnin interval;

    7:09 to 7:17 pm CET - Grand Trine of Mercury (4.5 degrees Aquarius) with Ceres (6.5 degrees Libra) and Midheaven (reaching 5.5 degrees Gemini 7:12 pm CET), the Vertex around 15 degrees Aquarius forms a weak trine with Mars in Gemini, and
    a weak sextile with Juno in Aries (so the Grand Trine does not seem significantly in an aspect with the Vertex), rendering the critical time -

    << 14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST / 10:12 am PST >>

    - while not yet overtaken by the skewed Nadir, the Moon then appears at the bottom of the chart;

    8:21 pm - Venus descends, presumably in the wake of the cataclysmic onset, thus being debased for X.28, with Fortune nearing the Moon;

    8:26 pm - Neptune at the Descendant simultaneous with the Part of Fortune reaching the Moon, thereby presenting the III.3 perplexity for Neptunian Corinth and lunar Ephesus;

    9:13 pm - Vesta reaching the Descendant is again in a rectangular formation with Mercury, Lilith, and the East Point, providing a visual fulfillment for the 'Vesta sepulchral fire' of X.6.

    The following evening a similar upright Grand Trine forms, yet it would be Neptune facing the debasing descent instead of Venus.

    The Saturn solar conjunct for Geneva 16 February 2023 will coincide with Dusk at 5:55 pm CET.

    The Vertex seems equally uninvolved with all three versions of the Midheaven-Mercury-Ceres Grand Trine on the three consecutive evenings 14 through 16 February 2023, yet only the Valentine's Day version bears the conditions given as
    ominous.
    The currently-daily Midheaven Grand Trine with Mercury and Ceres was probably not intended for the activating Chalice, but the slightly later Grand Trine where Fortune in Sagittarius passes between the relative locations of Lilith past 4
    degrees Leo and Vesta nearing 3 degrees Aries - that is an isolated triple correspondence in the Fire signs for Geneva 14 February 2023 7:49 pm to 7:55 pm CET [1:49 to 1:55 pm EST] omitted in error.
    Vestal Chalice For Venusian Nadir, Then Corinth & Ephesus Found In Axis {15 February 2023 2:33 am CET / 14 February 2023 8:33 pm EST / 5:33 pm PST}

    The requisite conditions in judicial astrology and emergent disastrous precursors have not failed in establishing an intricate trail towards an ultimate double cataclysm whose inevitability appears manifest - the cryptic veracity of the
    French prophecies allow some limited pre-event awareness, which should be refined, if only to facilitate post-mortem acknowledgement. Several major news events since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse have been featured as precursors, incorporating
    precise details beyond random happenings (the serial posting here should demonstrate some elaborations).

    The immense fatalities from the sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border 6 February 2023 occurred on the feast for two nephews of Saint Patrick, enacting II.92 line 3 - 'Great human murder, taken from the Great Nephew'; the situations in
    VI.82 and 89 match, and a complicated comparison between this Nephew of Blood and a later Nephew emerging through Fear appears in the process of current fulfillment.

    Viewing the chart for Geneva's Venusian Nadir 15 February 2023 2:33 am CET showed yet another Grand Trine, then with the Ascendant joining Lilith and Vesta: since Venus is in the debasing Nadir position, this instance is particularly ominous.

    Also because Neptune is close to conjoining Venus, when it is at the Nadir two minutes later at 2:35 am CET, at the base of the skewed Prime Vertical, it complements at an oblique angle the Moon nearing opposition with Mars, with the two
    appearing aligned slightly off the Ecliptic. The Mars lunar opposition technically takes place later that morning at 3:05 am CET, yet the rough impression exists in the earlier charts.

    So two minutes after the potential Venusian debasement cataclysmic onset, Neptune and the Moon separately define a dual-axis correspondence for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity from III.3.

    Venus reaching the Nadir ends the Saturnin interval; and the Vestal Reign culminates in the fateful Grand Trine with Lilith and the Ascendant - it takes 'three to tango' in forming the Chalice.

    The Vertex around 16 degrees Cancer has no aspects involving or competing significantly with the transitory Chalice Grand Trine.

    The principal celestial bodies are then beneath the Ecliptic, excluding Mars near the Descendant: Ceres, Lilith and Pallas share the overhead Vault, compliant with V.65 stipulating Vesta herself would not be visible.

    Since the Ascendant is involved, the Grand Trine points towards the Left, rather than appearing like a Balance, or moving in rotation.
    Saturnin Cup Debases Queen Venus In Lunar Temple [22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST]

    The temporal separation between the 6 February 2023 sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border and the cataclysmic onset is slightly more extensive than presumed, accepting the Vienne date as 22 February 2023 for Saint Paschasius, bishop of
    Vienne, who was granted supremacy over seven provinces by Pope Sylvester I circa 322. Two Lombardy dates are adjacent: Saint Peter Damian with a 21 February feast was legate to Milan for Pope Nicholas II circa 1059; and Blessed Anselm of Milan was a
    friar whose body was enshrined in the church of Santa Maria della Pace after his death in 1481.

    The Magi Gift Attack theme acquires the necessary date of a saint associated with myrrh via Saint Polycarp, bishop of Smyrna (the location known for myrrh), who was to be burned alive in a stadium circa 155, assuring his executioners there was
    no need to nail him to the pyre: from a witness account, "Like a ship's sail swirling in the wind, the flame became as it were a dome encircling the martyr's body. Surrounded by the fire, his body was like a bread that is baked, or gold and silver white-
    hot in a furnace, not like flesh that has been burnt. So sweet a fragrance came to us that it was like that of burning incense, or some other costly and sweet-smelling gum." So the saint associated with the Myrrh location set aflame exhibited the
    properties of the gummy substance, although Polycarp did not perish by the fire.

    Perceiving Polycarp to be unharmed, the execution proceeded using a dagger to stab him to death, then his corpse was burned.

    "'I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire'" {Revelation 3:18}

    Both Blessed Anselm of Milan and Saint Polycarp share the 23 February feast day.

    Other prophetic references become clear around these dates.

    The feast of the Chair of Saint Peter is 22 February, commemorating the founding of the See of Antioch; the Roman celebration also included 18 February. Both Masses include the same 'Collect': "O God, who, together with the power of the keys of
    the Kingdom of Heaven, didst bestow on blessed Peter Thy Apostle the pontificate of binding and loosing, grant that by the aid of his intersection we may be released from the yoke of our sins."
    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Gaul to shake, the Bark to become imperiled

    Line 3 of X.58 could be presenting two references for 22 February 2023, Gaul and Vienne being for Saint Paschasius, and the Bark indicating not the current papacy at Rome, but the feast for the Chair of Saint Peter.

    About a hundred Grand Trines were examined from 16 to 25 February 2023, discovering some anomalies. A Double Grand Trine oriented like the Star of David was found for Geneva charts 17 February 2023, without the requisite ominous conditions; for
    the afternoon of 21 February 2023, Fortune and the Vertex moved in trine-alignment to form successive Grand Trines with several celestial bodies (the Moon, Neptune, Venus, Vesta, Jupiter, Chiron and Juno).

    The Part of Fortune is clearly hinted in II.66, and the Vertex (as near-anagram Vitrix) in V.18, where 'son vitrix' works translated as 'his Vertex' for Trinitarian co-founder Saint Felix of Valois. The suggestion from V.65 of principals in the
    affair being hidden could relate to the unseen conceptual points: Vesta as the lady on coals no longer being visible speaks to atmospheric changes rendering the overhead Vault obscured.

    The veil seemed lifted on the pivotal contribution of Saturn when it was realized the ringed planet was involved in only one Grand Trine during the interval examined - and it emerged as a variation on the post-Full Super Moon 16 July 2022 2:06
    am CEST condition compliant with IV.31, however no longer with the Moon near Saturn. The previous Saturnin Grand Trine was on the false-Midheaven Apex of the Eleventh House cusp: its base has Venus on one side, and the merging of Fortune and the Vertex
    on the other. The new Saturnin Grand Trine occurs 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET, with the base having the Vertex on one side, and Fortune on the other.

    Thus the lunar conjunctions could be separated for Neptune, presenting the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3, and the Vestal sepulchral fire of X.6: the Moon would be passing Venus for the catastrophe to debase her specifically.

    A Venusian Reign starts by entering Aries 20 February 2023 8:56 am CET, and ends when exceeding the relative location of Lilith, 24 February 2023 4:07 pm CET. Venus as Mystery Babylon from Revelation receives her Cup of divine wrath while
    sitting as Queen, rejecting The Great Mourning for Jesus Christ, while asserting (quite accurately of herself as representing modern culture) that she is no widow who might feel such emotional grief.

    The Neptune lunar conjunction occurs 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET at 24 degrees 17 minutes Pisces.

    For Geneva on 22 February 2023 using CET:

    10:26 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 2 degrees 32 minutes Aries;

    10:47 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Apex at false Midheaven on Eleventh House cusp (28 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius), base consisting of Fortune (28 degrees 44 minutes Gemini) and the Vertex (26 degrees 47 minutes Libra), and the East Point
    separately merged with the Node - this is the critical time for cataclysmic onset -

    << 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST / 1:47 am PST >>;

    12:07 pm - Pisces Sun and Aries Moon adjacent at 3 degrees 33 minutes - 'De Sol et Lune' ('With Sun and Moon') from V.66;

    4:52 pm - Vesta lunar conjunct at 6 degrees 24 minutes Aries.

    The final line of V.66 skips ahead to the hybrid solar eclipse of 20 April 2023, visible for Indonesia and Australia: the date coincides with the feast for Saint Servilian, a Trajan martyr beheaded in Rome circa 117.
    Ardente lampe Traian d'or burine
    Burning lamp engraved with Trajan gold

    *

    '...When He Entered
    Through The Gate
    Of Jerusalem..'
    The ringed sports trophy in the foreground of the Sgt Pepper tableau cover image suggests planet Saturn in a warped way, perhaps disclosing intentional references to the Solar System: the jovial circus song aligned with Jupiter energy ending Side
    One was resumed with the long, slow sad song as George Harrison's compositional contribution, immersed in a saturnine tone that was supposedly relieved with deliberate laughter in the outro.

    The similarity of the two Geneva Saturnin Upright Grand Trines suggests the 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST post-Full Super Moon version (IV.31) was the falsifying Cupbearer from the final line of VI.89, with the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET variation
    presenting the Chalice that is drained: its orientation simultaneously recalls the Trinity and the Cup activated by being overturned or inverted.

    The 18 December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine matches the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' because it shifted immediately into a reconstituted version as Fortune proceeded, however this successive pair of Fortune Grand Trines was
    preceeded by the actual 'Chief Pail Of Water,' meaning a Saturnin Grand Trine. When Saturn passed Midheaven in Aquarius 4:22 pm CET, it was in a Grand Trine with the Libran Moon and the Ascendant in Gemini; the Offspring Successive Grand Trines followed
    around 5:35 pm and 6:05 pm CET respectively, as the 'son led in spinning.' The chronology was established by the final line setting the release of Griner as the female captive conducted to freedom through the prior 7 December 2022 association with
    Antioch via hagiology.

    Likewise the Surprise Grand Trine emerging when Fortune has its leap at Dusk 13 December 2022 4:45 pm CET as Saturnin, since Fortune was with Saturn at Midheaven before jumping to the position for a Saturnin-Ascendant-Fortune Grand Trine.

    Dans bois caches soldats jour de Lucie
    Qui ne fut onc si horrible trone

    Near the woods soldiers hidden on the day for Lucy
    For whom there never was so horrible a Throne

    The theme of IX.68 goes beyond mere potentiality in the 'hidden soldiers' as still-subterranean and intact immense magnets of the LHC, with the identifying image of the Black Forest proximity: this day appears designated for the Supreme Being
    Throne issuing the punishing order, that Queen Babylon, as Venus then-reigning, should have the cup she mixed for herself mixed double. The Fortune jump into the Surprise Grand Trine made a double for the simultaneous Grand Trine of Ceres and Pluto with
    the East Point. The Revelation passage has been illuminated so the actual date could be derived.

    The Saturnin Grand Trine was established as the major instrument of Divine Fury for the cataclysm through its prior variant forms.

    The Mobile sign of I.54 was a Solar Grand Trine featured for its Geneva Venusian Nadir resembling a tipping Balance on the Sun-Fulcrum 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, time-equivalent for the US House chamber being announced for the Republican
    majority, whose extreme goals and tactics would prove alarming when the debt-ceiling limit later fell on the feast for a Lombard saint, as reflected in V.42.

    The Lombard reference in VI.16 is Apocalyptic, with heavenly angels carrying out the dark task, intending to infuse commentary on the Tavern shooting at another Lombard feast date, by staging the primary fiery event at the Black Forest place with
    another Lombard association. This manifestation provides potentially double meaning for V.42, with terror for Lombard folk under the Balance, not being tipped but overthrown.

    So the 22 February 2023 return to the Upright Grand Trine form with Saturn at the Vertical-Apex Eleventh House cusp, from that same discovery for 16 July 2022, is especially ominous.

    The lines that refer to lunar conjunctions in the cataclysmic sequence can be identified, with temple implications.

    Corinth, Ephese lors en perplexite
    Corinth, Ephesus then in perplexity
    [III.3, Neptune lunar conjunct 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET]
    Sera meurtri a Venus faisant voeu
    Will be murdered at Venus making a vow

    [VIII.32, Venus lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 10:26 am CET]

    Vesta sepulcre feu eteint apparaitre

    Vesta sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear

    [X.6, Vesta lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 4:52 pm CET]

    Conversely, the Saturnin clues seem to relate primarily to the activating version of the critical 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Vertex, with those enduring its effects being dubbed 'The Saturnins.'

    Les Saturnins brules par les meuniers

    The Saturnins burned by the millers

    [VI.17]

    Par Saturnins endurera le pire

    The worst will be endured by the Saturnins

    [V.24]

    Saturne d'or en fer se changera

    Saturn with gold will convert itself into sword

    A major difference in the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine from the 16 July 2022 version is that Saturn is near the Sun instead of the Moon; Saturn's solar conjunct occurred 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET (noting match with V.42
    enumeration), for the golden factor that designates destructive manifestation.
    Reactions to The Beatles' seven-year presentation varied between regions and timeframes, with societies attempting to judge them based on cultural precepts, while lacking substantive comprehension of their intentions and tactics. A family member
    sends me a text about being certain they were diabolical because of a hand signal made during the promotion for the "Yellow Submarine" animated film, which is like saying the Hopis were like Nazis because they both used the swastika, or that a symbol can
    only have one meaning by however appropriates it - a link to the raw footage from the 11 August 1966 Chicago press conference was provided, without receiving any comment on what the group members actually said when the critical subject of Christianity
    unambiguously emerged. People will generally believe what they want, and utterly disregard what creates cognitive dissonance for them.

    When the known history is integrated with the esoteric facets of the group story, what emerges is neither common knowledge nor easily anticipated: the hysteria-inducing effect of the subliminal psychological transference characterized their touring
    years as a cultural phenomenon, while having little to do with the various productions being planned for recordings; reconstructing the famous episodes with some insight puts a judicial mirror up to contemporary society more than the band, who instead
    exhibit sardonically clever auditory ideas being manifested for an oblivious world, constantly reminding itself that something vaguely monumental was happening, without understanding its profound implications.

    The Beatles eventually won the battle over style: their early rhythm-and-blues approach was racially provocative; baroque and symphonic leanings in the middle presented neo-Classical legitimacy; in their late group phase an unassuming purity
    emerged, so the Sunday Church feeling for "Let It Be" seemed completely genuine. The same elder who scoffed scornfully at their debut on the Ed Sullivan show would express a spiritual devotion to the McCartney tune "Mull Of Kintyre," without consciously
    realizing what the bagpipe sequence might have been conveying. The struggle to delve into their substance remains unfulfilled, since they themselves would not lead into that uncharted territory, merely asserting there were plenty of things yet
    unconsidered.

    The process outlined of Christian regression appears subliminally expressed in their debut album cover of "Baby It's You," where the repeated backing vocal accusation "Cheat! Cheat!" could be applied to Jesus being said to have 'cheated Death.' The
    scatted "Sha-La-La"s appear in two forms: the longer version suggests,

    'Shall I Write
    Another
    LAW?'

    Ending this repetition with the truncated variation implies more simply,

    'Shall I Write A Law?'

    The instrumental solo there, with heavy electric guitar augmented by George Martin note-matching on the brighter-sounding celeste (whose name connotes 'heavenly'), an achievement while limited to twin-track mono, could have given away the entire
    agenda, in part explaining,

    'Start With The Ending:
    His Ascension -
    To Heaven...'

    Such a covert statement of objective had within it the eventual requirement for a song like "Penny Lane" with its triumphal entry into Jerusalem subtext, going forth with trumpets on horseback to emulate the Master Jesus - and that became its own
    real phenomenon, featuring the Fab Foursome all riding horses. The early group name "The SILVER Beetles" when spoken and reversed sounds like it ends with the word "Horsemen," suggesting a concept in tandem with the Revelation-parody early press release
    by Lennon.


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    Holy icons 'trumped' by molten candle wax immersion - In abject terror frozen, no one will be seen to budge

    The third line confirms Theodora as the widow accompanying Virgin Mary (as Our Lady of Lourdes), by summarizing her life story as opponent of the destruction to holy imagery and relics of saints committed by the Iconoclasts. Use
    of the word 'trempes' for 'dipped' seems particularly well-chosen.
    The word 'rameaux' for 'branches' from VI.29 suggests plural extensions, however with such time-sensitive material a late-stage conjecture is required.

    The critical Geneva Grand Trine from 11 February 2023 appears to be at 2:53 pm CET [8:53 am EST / 5:53 am PST] - it arrives about 2.5 hours into the Mercurial Reign which commences 11 February 2023 12:23 pm CET (when Mercury enters
    Aquarius). Several Grand Trines for the day were observed, with one found compliant.

    During the triangular configuration, Venus in Pisces will be in a trine with the Ascendant in Cancer, both briefly at 19 degrees 12 minutes: this aspect complicating the simultaneous Saturnin Lunar Grand Trine with the East Point
    appears to be how Venus as Mystery Babylon is debased with the Cup of divine wrath emerging for Geneva (the East Point is locally calculated). The Venusian orientation beyond the Midheaven point thus appears inconsequential.
    The subject of religious icons would have become part of The Beatles' myth had they completed their vision for the Butcher photo sessions: in response to the British dismissal of John Lennon's religious views in the controversial
    Cleave interview article as projecting a "holier than thou" attitude, they planned a triptych with the shocking Butcher image as the centerpiece - the undone finishing touch was to be gilded haloes surrounding their heads. The mock reverence was said to
    convey that they saw themselves as merely flesh and blood, however it seemed to work on several levels, and since many found the image disturbing as a US album sleeve cover, that photo version was immediately recalled and pasted over with a more
    innocuous image.

    Continuing the projected timing of a cataclysm for which the recent quakes taking over 25,000 lives was a formidable precursor, the moment of a particular Grand Trine configuration was deduced to be the objective.

    The branches for Theodora as the saint widow suggests some day beyond 11 February; the High-Born from II.92 being Saint Richard of Lucca for the Gallic King of VIII.32 for 7 February merely puts the striking of the cataclysmic event
    past the date of the massively lethal sibling quakes at the Turkey-Syrian border on the 6th.

    The Cup-Bearer falsifying in VI.89 signifies a wrong date, as following the widow and Virgin clue to 11 February, rather than a choice between Grand Trines on a specific date.

    The V.18 phrase 'son Vitrix' interpreted for 'Sans-Vertex' infers by reverse corollary 'Vertex-Without,' a situation where the Vertex is occupied outside the Grand Trine pattern, rather than negatively asserting an inactive non-role.

    A Lombardy feast recurrence should coincide: Saint Juventius, bishop of Pavia, is honored on 12 February; and Blessed Jordan of Saxony was prior-provincial of the Order of Preachers in Lombardy circa 1221 - in 1237 Jordan during a
    pilgrimage to the Holy Land drowned in a shipwreck off the coast of Syria - he has a feast on 13 February.

    For Geneva on 13 February 2023 using CET:

    1 am - Mercury exceeds the locational value of Vesta, thus commencing a Vestal Reign to last until the Sun enters Pisces (18 February 2023 11:35 pm CET);

    3:49 pm - Neptune lunar trine - a possible condition for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3;

    5:01 pm - Solar-Lunar square aspect - recalling 'Sol et Lune' from V.66;

    5:53 pm - Dusk brings a maximum jump for Fortune (II.66), from the top of the chart to the lunar position at the bottom;

    6:07 pm - Saturn falling commences the Saturnin interval;

    6:39 to 6:48 pm - Grand Trine consisting of Lilith (4 degrees 3 minutes Leo), Vesta (2 degrees 26 minutes Aries), and the Part of Fortune (moving between both relative locations in Sagittarius, oriented at the bottom of the chart) -
    the fiery nature of Vesta and the Wind Succubus Lilith suggest this Chalice portends ill-Fortune;

    6:43 pm - Mercury conjoined by the Vertex, in rough opposition with Lilith, and Fortune sextile the Vertex - this extraneous Vertex activity outside the concurrent Grand Trine formation could satisfy V.18, for the critical time in the
    Saturnin interval -

    << 13 February 2023 6:43 pm CET / 12:43 pm EST / 9:43 am PST >>;

    8:19 pm - Venus falls at the Descendant, with Fortune at the Nadir;

    8:30 pm - Neptune falls;

    9:15 pm - Vesta at the Descendant in a rectangular formation with the Ascendant, Lilith and Mercury (Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6);

    9:52 pm - Saturn lunar square.

    The perplexity in this application would regard the Neptune lunar trine, rather than Neptune falling local to Geneva; the next lunar aspect with the Sun as a square would be the prevalent condition for the glittering metals event, as
    in V.66.

    Both the Saturnin interval upon local descent and the subsequent Saturn lunar square could be the subjects of different lines, with context clarifying some ambiguity.
    Post-Vertex Saturnin Chalice To Vex Paternal Amours {14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST}

    The August 1999 Izmit quake was an early major event conjectured prior to occurrence, although the location being named in V.54 as Bisance for Byzantium was not integrated substantively into the awareness of the Cassini spacecraft
    gravity assist engaging during the Earth-flyby (the quake preceding by 20.5 hours) through cross-referencing a set of quatrains. The line of totality for the August 1999 solar eclipse during a Fixed Grand Cross was the transpiercing King in V.54,
    crossing the Black Sea and leaving Byzantium bloody. Also the final line of V.86 depicted the quake as Byzantium crushed by the head of Persia.

    I could sense the sibling quakes of 6 February 2023, striking instead the Turkish border with Syria, as reflected in VI.82, 89, and II.92 line 3, would have a similar high death toll ultimately - and the same story of weakly designed
    structures has emerged. Rescue efforts could trigger avalanches of debris; miners were devising tunnels to assist those operations. The Turkish reference in IV.58 was for 7 December 2022 via hagiology, for timing of the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange. The
    Turkey-Syria border quakes comprise the first stage of the Nephew prophecy (via saintly nephews of Saint Patrick), for Blood, with the second Nephew stage through Fear emerging later.

    The first week of the year had the Speakership debacle foretold in the final line of II.92 using Saint Telemachus; the Mercury solar conjunct of 7 January 2023 attended the beating of Tyre Nichols for the Memphis incitement of X.79; the
    next day the Brasilia insurrection presented the flowering of Hercules' lies, and the people trapped from exiting the presidential palace from II.66. The Nepal plane crash on 15 January 2023 complied with the Lyons-Marseilles encoded event; the Half Moon
    Bay shooting was on the Ulm day of 23 January for Blessed Henry Suso as in VIII.34. Each quatrain case carries its own set of messages, with complex logical intersections.

    The Victor comparison between IV.95 and VI.70 recalls the Big Victor character played by Victor Mature in the 1968 group-ending film "Head" by The Monkees, when their television show had been cancelled, as an inside-joke mocking their
    RCA corporate taskmasters, continuing the extremely subtle pop culture theme that recently surfaced in the prophecies.

    https://www.neatorama.com/2012/02/16/head-the-monkees-strange-movie/

    The Magi Gift Attack theme for the cataclysmic onset in II.92 (fire color of Gold), V.16 (smoke like Frankincense), and VIII.34 (injury and tomb both calling for Myrrh) thus seems to co-exist for this apparent finale to the sequence.

    The 13 February 2023 2023 6:45 pm CET Grand Trine of Lilith-Vesta-Fortune was decidedly not 'Sans-Vertex' ('son vitrix') to satisfy the secret hint in V.18, since Mercury in opposition with triangle point Lilith was conspicuously
    conjoined by the Vertex: thus it could be the falsifying Cupbearer of VI.89, approaching the true Chalice of Divine Fury.

    The Vestal Reign will last until 18 February 2023, however the conditions for the descending celestial lineup being considered for Geneva will transition more quickly: as John Lennon explained of his famous group's demise, 'Wedding
    Bells are breaking up that old gang of mine.' First Venus and Neptune through their conjunction will effectively 'switch places' 15 February 2023 :30 pm CET; then the Sun will overtake Saturn 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET. These two changes alter the
    current compliance, as though backing the prophecy into a corner.

    A daily recurring Grand Trine involving the Midheaven point with Mercury and Ceres asserts itself on the evening of 14 February 2023, the Valentine's Day date corresponding with the 'fatherly amours' vexed in VI.89, on the final evening
    when the participants descending as V.65 suggests will have their ominous potential.

    For Geneva on 14 February 2023 using CET:

    5:55 pm - Dusk brings a jump of Fortune to about 26 degrees from the lunar position;

    6:04 pm - Saturn falling commences the fateful Saturnin interval;

    7:09 to 7:17 pm CET - Grand Trine of Mercury (4.5 degrees Aquarius) with Ceres (6.5 degrees Libra) and Midheaven (reaching 5.5 degrees Gemini 7:12 pm CET), the Vertex around 15 degrees Aquarius forms a weak trine with Mars in Gemini,
    and a weak sextile with Juno in Aries (so the Grand Trine does not seem significantly in an aspect with the Vertex), rendering the critical time -

    << 14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST / 10:12 am PST >>

    - while not yet overtaken by the skewed Nadir, the Moon then appears at the bottom of the chart;

    8:21 pm - Venus descends, presumably in the wake of the cataclysmic onset, thus being debased for X.28, with Fortune nearing the Moon;

    8:26 pm - Neptune at the Descendant simultaneous with the Part of Fortune reaching the Moon, thereby presenting the III.3 perplexity for Neptunian Corinth and lunar Ephesus;

    9:13 pm - Vesta reaching the Descendant is again in a rectangular formation with Mercury, Lilith, and the East Point, providing a visual fulfillment for the 'Vesta sepulchral fire' of X.6.

    The following evening a similar upright Grand Trine forms, yet it would be Neptune facing the debasing descent instead of Venus.

    The Saturn solar conjunct for Geneva 16 February 2023 will coincide with Dusk at 5:55 pm CET.

    The Vertex seems equally uninvolved with all three versions of the Midheaven-Mercury-Ceres Grand Trine on the three consecutive evenings 14 through 16 February 2023, yet only the Valentine's Day version bears the conditions given as
    ominous.
    The currently-daily Midheaven Grand Trine with Mercury and Ceres was probably not intended for the activating Chalice, but the slightly later Grand Trine where Fortune in Sagittarius passes between the relative locations of Lilith past 4
    degrees Leo and Vesta nearing 3 degrees Aries - that is an isolated triple correspondence in the Fire signs for Geneva 14 February 2023 7:49 pm to 7:55 pm CET [1:49 to 1:55 pm EST] omitted in error.
    Vestal Chalice For Venusian Nadir, Then Corinth & Ephesus Found In Axis {15 February 2023 2:33 am CET / 14 February 2023 8:33 pm EST / 5:33 pm PST}

    The requisite conditions in judicial astrology and emergent disastrous precursors have not failed in establishing an intricate trail towards an ultimate double cataclysm whose inevitability appears manifest - the cryptic veracity of the
    French prophecies allow some limited pre-event awareness, which should be refined, if only to facilitate post-mortem acknowledgement. Several major news events since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse have been featured as precursors, incorporating
    precise details beyond random happenings (the serial posting here should demonstrate some elaborations).

    The immense fatalities from the sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border 6 February 2023 occurred on the feast for two nephews of Saint Patrick, enacting II.92 line 3 - 'Great human murder, taken from the Great Nephew'; the situations in
    VI.82 and 89 match, and a complicated comparison between this Nephew of Blood and a later Nephew emerging through Fear appears in the process of current fulfillment.

    Viewing the chart for Geneva's Venusian Nadir 15 February 2023 2:33 am CET showed yet another Grand Trine, then with the Ascendant joining Lilith and Vesta: since Venus is in the debasing Nadir position, this instance is particularly
    ominous.

    Also because Neptune is close to conjoining Venus, when it is at the Nadir two minutes later at 2:35 am CET, at the base of the skewed Prime Vertical, it complements at an oblique angle the Moon nearing opposition with Mars, with the two
    appearing aligned slightly off the Ecliptic. The Mars lunar opposition technically takes place later that morning at 3:05 am CET, yet the rough impression exists in the earlier charts.

    So two minutes after the potential Venusian debasement cataclysmic onset, Neptune and the Moon separately define a dual-axis correspondence for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity from III.3.

    Venus reaching the Nadir ends the Saturnin interval; and the Vestal Reign culminates in the fateful Grand Trine with Lilith and the Ascendant - it takes 'three to tango' in forming the Chalice.

    The Vertex around 16 degrees Cancer has no aspects involving or competing significantly with the transitory Chalice Grand Trine.

    The principal celestial bodies are then beneath the Ecliptic, excluding Mars near the Descendant: Ceres, Lilith and Pallas share the overhead Vault, compliant with V.65 stipulating Vesta herself would not be visible.

    Since the Ascendant is involved, the Grand Trine points towards the Left, rather than appearing like a Balance, or moving in rotation.
    Saturnin Cup Debases Queen Venus In Lunar Temple [22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST]

    The temporal separation between the 6 February 2023 sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border and the cataclysmic onset is slightly more extensive than presumed, accepting the Vienne date as 22 February 2023 for Saint Paschasius, bishop of
    Vienne, who was granted supremacy over seven provinces by Pope Sylvester I circa 322. Two Lombardy dates are adjacent: Saint Peter Damian with a 21 February feast was legate to Milan for Pope Nicholas II circa 1059; and Blessed Anselm of Milan was a
    friar whose body was enshrined in the church of Santa Maria della Pace after his death in 1481.

    The Magi Gift Attack theme acquires the necessary date of a saint associated with myrrh via Saint Polycarp, bishop of Smyrna (the location known for myrrh), who was to be burned alive in a stadium circa 155, assuring his executioners there
    was no need to nail him to the pyre: from a witness account, "Like a ship's sail swirling in the wind, the flame became as it were a dome encircling the martyr's body. Surrounded by the fire, his body was like a bread that is baked, or gold and silver
    white-hot in a furnace, not like flesh that has been burnt. So sweet a fragrance came to us that it was like that of burning incense, or some other costly and sweet-smelling gum." So the saint associated with the Myrrh location set aflame exhibited the
    properties of the gummy substance, although Polycarp did not perish by the fire.

    Perceiving Polycarp to be unharmed, the execution proceeded using a dagger to stab him to death, then his corpse was burned.

    "'I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire'" {Revelation 3:18}

    Both Blessed Anselm of Milan and Saint Polycarp share the 23 February feast day.

    Other prophetic references become clear around these dates.

    The feast of the Chair of Saint Peter is 22 February, commemorating the founding of the See of Antioch; the Roman celebration also included 18 February. Both Masses include the same 'Collect': "O God, who, together with the power of the keys
    of the Kingdom of Heaven, didst bestow on blessed Peter Thy Apostle the pontificate of binding and loosing, grant that by the aid of his intersection we may be released from the yoke of our sins."
    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Gaul to shake, the Bark to become imperiled

    Line 3 of X.58 could be presenting two references for 22 February 2023, Gaul and Vienne being for Saint Paschasius, and the Bark indicating not the current papacy at Rome, but the feast for the Chair of Saint Peter.

    About a hundred Grand Trines were examined from 16 to 25 February 2023, discovering some anomalies. A Double Grand Trine oriented like the Star of David was found for Geneva charts 17 February 2023, without the requisite ominous conditions;
    for the afternoon of 21 February 2023, Fortune and the Vertex moved in trine-alignment to form successive Grand Trines with several celestial bodies (the Moon, Neptune, Venus, Vesta, Jupiter, Chiron and Juno).

    The Part of Fortune is clearly hinted in II.66, and the Vertex (as near-anagram Vitrix) in V.18, where 'son vitrix' works translated as 'his Vertex' for Trinitarian co-founder Saint Felix of Valois. The suggestion from V.65 of principals in
    the affair being hidden could relate to the unseen conceptual points: Vesta as the lady on coals no longer being visible speaks to atmospheric changes rendering the overhead Vault obscured.

    The veil seemed lifted on the pivotal contribution of Saturn when it was realized the ringed planet was involved in only one Grand Trine during the interval examined - and it emerged as a variation on the post-Full Super Moon 16 July 2022 2:
    06 am CEST condition compliant with IV.31, however no longer with the Moon near Saturn. The previous Saturnin Grand Trine was on the false-Midheaven Apex of the Eleventh House cusp: its base has Venus on one side, and the merging of Fortune and the
    Vertex on the other. The new Saturnin Grand Trine occurs 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET, with the base having the Vertex on one side, and Fortune on the other.

    Thus the lunar conjunctions could be separated for Neptune, presenting the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3, and the Vestal sepulchral fire of X.6: the Moon would be passing Venus for the catastrophe to debase her specifically.

    A Venusian Reign starts by entering Aries 20 February 2023 8:56 am CET, and ends when exceeding the relative location of Lilith, 24 February 2023 4:07 pm CET. Venus as Mystery Babylon from Revelation receives her Cup of divine wrath while
    sitting as Queen, rejecting The Great Mourning for Jesus Christ, while asserting (quite accurately of herself as representing modern culture) that she is no widow who might feel such emotional grief.

    The Neptune lunar conjunction occurs 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET at 24 degrees 17 minutes Pisces.

    For Geneva on 22 February 2023 using CET:

    10:26 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 2 degrees 32 minutes Aries;

    10:47 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Apex at false Midheaven on Eleventh House cusp (28 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius), base consisting of Fortune (28 degrees 44 minutes Gemini) and the Vertex (26 degrees 47 minutes Libra), and the East Point
    separately merged with the Node - this is the critical time for cataclysmic onset -

    << 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST / 1:47 am PST >>;

    12:07 pm - Pisces Sun and Aries Moon adjacent at 3 degrees 33 minutes - 'De Sol et Lune' ('With Sun and Moon') from V.66;

    4:52 pm - Vesta lunar conjunct at 6 degrees 24 minutes Aries.

    The final line of V.66 skips ahead to the hybrid solar eclipse of 20 April 2023, visible for Indonesia and Australia: the date coincides with the feast for Saint Servilian, a Trajan martyr beheaded in Rome circa 117.
    Ardente lampe Traian d'or burine
    Burning lamp engraved with Trajan gold

    *

    '...When He Entered
    Through The Gate
    Of Jerusalem..'
    The ringed sports trophy in the foreground of the Sgt Pepper tableau cover image suggests planet Saturn in a warped way, perhaps disclosing intentional references to the Solar System: the jovial circus song aligned with Jupiter energy ending
    Side One was resumed with the long, slow sad song as George Harrison's compositional contribution, immersed in a saturnine tone that was supposedly relieved with deliberate laughter in the outro.

    The similarity of the two Geneva Saturnin Upright Grand Trines suggests the 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST post-Full Super Moon version (IV.31) was the falsifying Cupbearer from the final line of VI.89, with the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET
    variation presenting the Chalice that is drained: its orientation simultaneously recalls the Trinity and the Cup activated by being overturned or inverted.

    The 18 December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine matches the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' because it shifted immediately into a reconstituted version as Fortune proceeded, however this successive pair of Fortune Grand Trines
    was preceeded by the actual 'Chief Pail Of Water,' meaning a Saturnin Grand Trine. When Saturn passed Midheaven in Aquarius 4:22 pm CET, it was in a Grand Trine with the Libran Moon and the Ascendant in Gemini; the Offspring Successive Grand Trines
    followed around 5:35 pm and 6:05 pm CET respectively, as the 'son led in spinning.' The chronology was established by the final line setting the release of Griner as the female captive conducted to freedom through the prior 7 December 2022 association
    with Antioch via hagiology.

    Likewise the Surprise Grand Trine emerging when Fortune has its leap at Dusk 13 December 2022 4:45 pm CET as Saturnin, since Fortune was with Saturn at Midheaven before jumping to the position for a Saturnin-Ascendant-Fortune Grand Trine.

    Dans bois caches soldats jour de Lucie
    Qui ne fut onc si horrible trone

    Near the woods soldiers hidden on the day for Lucy
    For whom there never was so horrible a Throne

    The theme of IX.68 goes beyond mere potentiality in the 'hidden soldiers' as still-subterranean and intact immense magnets of the LHC, with the identifying image of the Black Forest proximity: this day appears designated for the Supreme Being
    Throne issuing the punishing order, that Queen Babylon, as Venus then-reigning, should have the cup she mixed for herself mixed double. The Fortune jump into the Surprise Grand Trine made a double for the simultaneous Grand Trine of Ceres and Pluto with
    the East Point. The Revelation passage has been illuminated so the actual date could be derived.

    The Saturnin Grand Trine was established as the major instrument of Divine Fury for the cataclysm through its prior variant forms.

    The Mobile sign of I.54 was a Solar Grand Trine featured for its Geneva Venusian Nadir resembling a tipping Balance on the Sun-Fulcrum 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, time-equivalent for the US House chamber being announced for the Republican
    majority, whose extreme goals and tactics would prove alarming when the debt-ceiling limit later fell on the feast for a Lombard saint, as reflected in V.42.

    The Lombard reference in VI.16 is Apocalyptic, with heavenly angels carrying out the dark task, intending to infuse commentary on the Tavern shooting at another Lombard feast date, by staging the primary fiery event at the Black Forest place
    with another Lombard association. This manifestation provides potentially double meaning for V.42, with terror for Lombard folk under the Balance, not being tipped but overthrown.

    So the 22 February 2023 return to the Upright Grand Trine form with Saturn at the Vertical-Apex Eleventh House cusp, from that same discovery for 16 July 2022, is especially ominous.

    The lines that refer to lunar conjunctions in the cataclysmic sequence can be identified, with temple implications.

    Corinth, Ephese lors en perplexite
    Corinth, Ephesus then in perplexity
    [III.3, Neptune lunar conjunct 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET]
    Sera meurtri a Venus faisant voeu
    Will be murdered at Venus making a vow

    [VIII.32, Venus lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 10:26 am CET]

    Vesta sepulcre feu eteint apparaitre

    Vesta sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear

    [X.6, Vesta lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 4:52 pm CET]

    Conversely, the Saturnin clues seem to relate primarily to the activating version of the critical 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Vertex, with those enduring its effects being dubbed 'The Saturnins.'

    Les Saturnins brules par les meuniers

    The Saturnins burned by the millers

    [VI.17]

    Par Saturnins endurera le pire

    The worst will be endured by the Saturnins

    [V.24]

    Saturne d'or en fer se changera

    Saturn with gold will convert itself into sword

    A major difference in the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine from the 16 July 2022 version is that Saturn is near the Sun instead of the Moon; Saturn's solar conjunct occurred 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET (noting match with V.42
    enumeration), for the golden factor that designates destructive manifestation.
    Reactions to The Beatles' seven-year presentation varied between regions and timeframes, with societies attempting to judge them based on cultural precepts, while lacking substantive comprehension of their intentions and tactics. A family member
    sends me a text about being certain they were diabolical because of a hand signal made during the promotion for the "Yellow Submarine" animated film, which is like saying the Hopis were like Nazis because they both used the swastika, or that a symbol can
    only have one meaning by however appropriates it - a link to the raw footage from the 11 August 1966 Chicago press conference was provided, without receiving any comment on what the group members actually said when the critical subject of Christianity
    unambiguously emerged. People will generally believe what they want, and utterly disregard what creates cognitive dissonance for them.

    When the known history is integrated with the esoteric facets of the group story, what emerges is neither common knowledge nor easily anticipated: the hysteria-inducing effect of the subliminal psychological transference characterized their
    touring years as a cultural phenomenon, while having little to do with the various productions being planned for recordings; reconstructing the famous episodes with some insight puts a judicial mirror up to contemporary society more than the band, who
    instead exhibit sardonically clever auditory ideas being manifested for an oblivious world, constantly reminding itself that something vaguely monumental was happening, without understanding its profound implications.

    The Beatles eventually won the battle over style: their early rhythm-and-blues approach was racially provocative; baroque and symphonic leanings in the middle presented neo-Classical legitimacy; in their late group phase an unassuming purity
    emerged, so the Sunday Church feeling for "Let It Be" seemed completely genuine. The same elder who scoffed scornfully at their debut on the Ed Sullivan show would express a spiritual devotion to the McCartney tune "Mull Of Kintyre," without consciously
    realizing what the bagpipe sequence might have been conveying. The struggle to delve into their substance remains unfulfilled, since they themselves would not lead into that uncharted territory, merely asserting there were plenty of things yet
    unconsidered.

    The process outlined of Christian regression appears subliminally expressed in their debut album cover of "Baby It's You," where the repeated backing vocal accusation "Cheat! Cheat!" could be applied to Jesus being said to have 'cheated Death.'
    The scatted "Sha-La-La"s appear in two forms: the longer version suggests,

    'Shall I Write
    Another
    LAW?'

    Ending this repetition with the truncated variation implies more simply,

    'Shall I Write A Law?'

    The instrumental solo there, with heavy electric guitar augmented by George Martin note-matching on the brighter-sounding celeste (whose name connotes 'heavenly'), an achievement while limited to twin-track mono, could have given away the entire
    agenda, in part explaining,

    'Start With The Ending:
    His Ascension -
    To Heaven...'


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    Holy icons 'trumped' by molten candle wax immersion - In abject terror frozen, no one will be seen to budge

    The third line confirms Theodora as the widow accompanying Virgin Mary (as Our Lady of Lourdes), by summarizing her life story as opponent of the destruction to holy imagery and relics of saints committed by the Iconoclasts. Use
    of the word 'trempes' for 'dipped' seems particularly well-chosen.
    The word 'rameaux' for 'branches' from VI.29 suggests plural extensions, however with such time-sensitive material a late-stage conjecture is required.

    The critical Geneva Grand Trine from 11 February 2023 appears to be at 2:53 pm CET [8:53 am EST / 5:53 am PST] - it arrives about 2.5 hours into the Mercurial Reign which commences 11 February 2023 12:23 pm CET (when Mercury enters
    Aquarius). Several Grand Trines for the day were observed, with one found compliant.

    During the triangular configuration, Venus in Pisces will be in a trine with the Ascendant in Cancer, both briefly at 19 degrees 12 minutes: this aspect complicating the simultaneous Saturnin Lunar Grand Trine with the East Point
    appears to be how Venus as Mystery Babylon is debased with the Cup of divine wrath emerging for Geneva (the East Point is locally calculated). The Venusian orientation beyond the Midheaven point thus appears inconsequential.
    The subject of religious icons would have become part of The Beatles' myth had they completed their vision for the Butcher photo sessions: in response to the British dismissal of John Lennon's religious views in the controversial
    Cleave interview article as projecting a "holier than thou" attitude, they planned a triptych with the shocking Butcher image as the centerpiece - the undone finishing touch was to be gilded haloes surrounding their heads. The mock reverence was said to
    convey that they saw themselves as merely flesh and blood, however it seemed to work on several levels, and since many found the image disturbing as a US album sleeve cover, that photo version was immediately recalled and pasted over with a more
    innocuous image.

    Continuing the projected timing of a cataclysm for which the recent quakes taking over 25,000 lives was a formidable precursor, the moment of a particular Grand Trine configuration was deduced to be the objective.

    The branches for Theodora as the saint widow suggests some day beyond 11 February; the High-Born from II.92 being Saint Richard of Lucca for the Gallic King of VIII.32 for 7 February merely puts the striking of the cataclysmic event
    past the date of the massively lethal sibling quakes at the Turkey-Syrian border on the 6th.

    The Cup-Bearer falsifying in VI.89 signifies a wrong date, as following the widow and Virgin clue to 11 February, rather than a choice between Grand Trines on a specific date.

    The V.18 phrase 'son Vitrix' interpreted for 'Sans-Vertex' infers by reverse corollary 'Vertex-Without,' a situation where the Vertex is occupied outside the Grand Trine pattern, rather than negatively asserting an inactive non-role.

    A Lombardy feast recurrence should coincide: Saint Juventius, bishop of Pavia, is honored on 12 February; and Blessed Jordan of Saxony was prior-provincial of the Order of Preachers in Lombardy circa 1221 - in 1237 Jordan during a
    pilgrimage to the Holy Land drowned in a shipwreck off the coast of Syria - he has a feast on 13 February.

    For Geneva on 13 February 2023 using CET:

    1 am - Mercury exceeds the locational value of Vesta, thus commencing a Vestal Reign to last until the Sun enters Pisces (18 February 2023 11:35 pm CET);

    3:49 pm - Neptune lunar trine - a possible condition for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3;

    5:01 pm - Solar-Lunar square aspect - recalling 'Sol et Lune' from V.66;

    5:53 pm - Dusk brings a maximum jump for Fortune (II.66), from the top of the chart to the lunar position at the bottom;

    6:07 pm - Saturn falling commences the Saturnin interval;

    6:39 to 6:48 pm - Grand Trine consisting of Lilith (4 degrees 3 minutes Leo), Vesta (2 degrees 26 minutes Aries), and the Part of Fortune (moving between both relative locations in Sagittarius, oriented at the bottom of the chart) -
    the fiery nature of Vesta and the Wind Succubus Lilith suggest this Chalice portends ill-Fortune;

    6:43 pm - Mercury conjoined by the Vertex, in rough opposition with Lilith, and Fortune sextile the Vertex - this extraneous Vertex activity outside the concurrent Grand Trine formation could satisfy V.18, for the critical time in the
    Saturnin interval -

    << 13 February 2023 6:43 pm CET / 12:43 pm EST / 9:43 am PST >>;

    8:19 pm - Venus falls at the Descendant, with Fortune at the Nadir;

    8:30 pm - Neptune falls;

    9:15 pm - Vesta at the Descendant in a rectangular formation with the Ascendant, Lilith and Mercury (Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6);

    9:52 pm - Saturn lunar square.

    The perplexity in this application would regard the Neptune lunar trine, rather than Neptune falling local to Geneva; the next lunar aspect with the Sun as a square would be the prevalent condition for the glittering metals event, as
    in V.66.

    Both the Saturnin interval upon local descent and the subsequent Saturn lunar square could be the subjects of different lines, with context clarifying some ambiguity.
    Post-Vertex Saturnin Chalice To Vex Paternal Amours {14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST}

    The August 1999 Izmit quake was an early major event conjectured prior to occurrence, although the location being named in V.54 as Bisance for Byzantium was not integrated substantively into the awareness of the Cassini spacecraft
    gravity assist engaging during the Earth-flyby (the quake preceding by 20.5 hours) through cross-referencing a set of quatrains. The line of totality for the August 1999 solar eclipse during a Fixed Grand Cross was the transpiercing King in V.54,
    crossing the Black Sea and leaving Byzantium bloody. Also the final line of V.86 depicted the quake as Byzantium crushed by the head of Persia.

    I could sense the sibling quakes of 6 February 2023, striking instead the Turkish border with Syria, as reflected in VI.82, 89, and II.92 line 3, would have a similar high death toll ultimately - and the same story of weakly designed
    structures has emerged. Rescue efforts could trigger avalanches of debris; miners were devising tunnels to assist those operations. The Turkish reference in IV.58 was for 7 December 2022 via hagiology, for timing of the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange. The
    Turkey-Syria border quakes comprise the first stage of the Nephew prophecy (via saintly nephews of Saint Patrick), for Blood, with the second Nephew stage through Fear emerging later.

    The first week of the year had the Speakership debacle foretold in the final line of II.92 using Saint Telemachus; the Mercury solar conjunct of 7 January 2023 attended the beating of Tyre Nichols for the Memphis incitement of X.79; the
    next day the Brasilia insurrection presented the flowering of Hercules' lies, and the people trapped from exiting the presidential palace from II.66. The Nepal plane crash on 15 January 2023 complied with the Lyons-Marseilles encoded event; the Half Moon
    Bay shooting was on the Ulm day of 23 January for Blessed Henry Suso as in VIII.34. Each quatrain case carries its own set of messages, with complex logical intersections.

    The Victor comparison between IV.95 and VI.70 recalls the Big Victor character played by Victor Mature in the 1968 group-ending film "Head" by The Monkees, when their television show had been cancelled, as an inside-joke mocking their
    RCA corporate taskmasters, continuing the extremely subtle pop culture theme that recently surfaced in the prophecies.

    https://www.neatorama.com/2012/02/16/head-the-monkees-strange-movie/

    The Magi Gift Attack theme for the cataclysmic onset in II.92 (fire color of Gold), V.16 (smoke like Frankincense), and VIII.34 (injury and tomb both calling for Myrrh) thus seems to co-exist for this apparent finale to the sequence.

    The 13 February 2023 2023 6:45 pm CET Grand Trine of Lilith-Vesta-Fortune was decidedly not 'Sans-Vertex' ('son vitrix') to satisfy the secret hint in V.18, since Mercury in opposition with triangle point Lilith was conspicuously
    conjoined by the Vertex: thus it could be the falsifying Cupbearer of VI.89, approaching the true Chalice of Divine Fury.

    The Vestal Reign will last until 18 February 2023, however the conditions for the descending celestial lineup being considered for Geneva will transition more quickly: as John Lennon explained of his famous group's demise, 'Wedding
    Bells are breaking up that old gang of mine.' First Venus and Neptune through their conjunction will effectively 'switch places' 15 February 2023 :30 pm CET; then the Sun will overtake Saturn 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET. These two changes alter the
    current compliance, as though backing the prophecy into a corner.

    A daily recurring Grand Trine involving the Midheaven point with Mercury and Ceres asserts itself on the evening of 14 February 2023, the Valentine's Day date corresponding with the 'fatherly amours' vexed in VI.89, on the final evening
    when the participants descending as V.65 suggests will have their ominous potential.

    For Geneva on 14 February 2023 using CET:

    5:55 pm - Dusk brings a jump of Fortune to about 26 degrees from the lunar position;

    6:04 pm - Saturn falling commences the fateful Saturnin interval;

    7:09 to 7:17 pm CET - Grand Trine of Mercury (4.5 degrees Aquarius) with Ceres (6.5 degrees Libra) and Midheaven (reaching 5.5 degrees Gemini 7:12 pm CET), the Vertex around 15 degrees Aquarius forms a weak trine with Mars in Gemini,
    and a weak sextile with Juno in Aries (so the Grand Trine does not seem significantly in an aspect with the Vertex), rendering the critical time -

    << 14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST / 10:12 am PST >>

    - while not yet overtaken by the skewed Nadir, the Moon then appears at the bottom of the chart;

    8:21 pm - Venus descends, presumably in the wake of the cataclysmic onset, thus being debased for X.28, with Fortune nearing the Moon;

    8:26 pm - Neptune at the Descendant simultaneous with the Part of Fortune reaching the Moon, thereby presenting the III.3 perplexity for Neptunian Corinth and lunar Ephesus;

    9:13 pm - Vesta reaching the Descendant is again in a rectangular formation with Mercury, Lilith, and the East Point, providing a visual fulfillment for the 'Vesta sepulchral fire' of X.6.

    The following evening a similar upright Grand Trine forms, yet it would be Neptune facing the debasing descent instead of Venus.

    The Saturn solar conjunct for Geneva 16 February 2023 will coincide with Dusk at 5:55 pm CET.

    The Vertex seems equally uninvolved with all three versions of the Midheaven-Mercury-Ceres Grand Trine on the three consecutive evenings 14 through 16 February 2023, yet only the Valentine's Day version bears the conditions given as
    ominous.
    The currently-daily Midheaven Grand Trine with Mercury and Ceres was probably not intended for the activating Chalice, but the slightly later Grand Trine where Fortune in Sagittarius passes between the relative locations of Lilith past 4
    degrees Leo and Vesta nearing 3 degrees Aries - that is an isolated triple correspondence in the Fire signs for Geneva 14 February 2023 7:49 pm to 7:55 pm CET [1:49 to 1:55 pm EST] omitted in error.
    Vestal Chalice For Venusian Nadir, Then Corinth & Ephesus Found In Axis {15 February 2023 2:33 am CET / 14 February 2023 8:33 pm EST / 5:33 pm PST}

    The requisite conditions in judicial astrology and emergent disastrous precursors have not failed in establishing an intricate trail towards an ultimate double cataclysm whose inevitability appears manifest - the cryptic veracity of the
    French prophecies allow some limited pre-event awareness, which should be refined, if only to facilitate post-mortem acknowledgement. Several major news events since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse have been featured as precursors, incorporating
    precise details beyond random happenings (the serial posting here should demonstrate some elaborations).

    The immense fatalities from the sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border 6 February 2023 occurred on the feast for two nephews of Saint Patrick, enacting II.92 line 3 - 'Great human murder, taken from the Great Nephew'; the situations in
    VI.82 and 89 match, and a complicated comparison between this Nephew of Blood and a later Nephew emerging through Fear appears in the process of current fulfillment.

    Viewing the chart for Geneva's Venusian Nadir 15 February 2023 2:33 am CET showed yet another Grand Trine, then with the Ascendant joining Lilith and Vesta: since Venus is in the debasing Nadir position, this instance is particularly
    ominous.

    Also because Neptune is close to conjoining Venus, when it is at the Nadir two minutes later at 2:35 am CET, at the base of the skewed Prime Vertical, it complements at an oblique angle the Moon nearing opposition with Mars, with the two
    appearing aligned slightly off the Ecliptic. The Mars lunar opposition technically takes place later that morning at 3:05 am CET, yet the rough impression exists in the earlier charts.

    So two minutes after the potential Venusian debasement cataclysmic onset, Neptune and the Moon separately define a dual-axis correspondence for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity from III.3.

    Venus reaching the Nadir ends the Saturnin interval; and the Vestal Reign culminates in the fateful Grand Trine with Lilith and the Ascendant - it takes 'three to tango' in forming the Chalice.

    The Vertex around 16 degrees Cancer has no aspects involving or competing significantly with the transitory Chalice Grand Trine.

    The principal celestial bodies are then beneath the Ecliptic, excluding Mars near the Descendant: Ceres, Lilith and Pallas share the overhead Vault, compliant with V.65 stipulating Vesta herself would not be visible.

    Since the Ascendant is involved, the Grand Trine points towards the Left, rather than appearing like a Balance, or moving in rotation.
    Saturnin Cup Debases Queen Venus In Lunar Temple [22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST]

    The temporal separation between the 6 February 2023 sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border and the cataclysmic onset is slightly more extensive than presumed, accepting the Vienne date as 22 February 2023 for Saint Paschasius, bishop of
    Vienne, who was granted supremacy over seven provinces by Pope Sylvester I circa 322. Two Lombardy dates are adjacent: Saint Peter Damian with a 21 February feast was legate to Milan for Pope Nicholas II circa 1059; and Blessed Anselm of Milan was a
    friar whose body was enshrined in the church of Santa Maria della Pace after his death in 1481.

    The Magi Gift Attack theme acquires the necessary date of a saint associated with myrrh via Saint Polycarp, bishop of Smyrna (the location known for myrrh), who was to be burned alive in a stadium circa 155, assuring his executioners there
    was no need to nail him to the pyre: from a witness account, "Like a ship's sail swirling in the wind, the flame became as it were a dome encircling the martyr's body. Surrounded by the fire, his body was like a bread that is baked, or gold and silver
    white-hot in a furnace, not like flesh that has been burnt. So sweet a fragrance came to us that it was like that of burning incense, or some other costly and sweet-smelling gum." So the saint associated with the Myrrh location set aflame exhibited the
    properties of the gummy substance, although Polycarp did not perish by the fire.

    Perceiving Polycarp to be unharmed, the execution proceeded using a dagger to stab him to death, then his corpse was burned.

    "'I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire'" {Revelation 3:18}

    Both Blessed Anselm of Milan and Saint Polycarp share the 23 February feast day.

    Other prophetic references become clear around these dates.

    The feast of the Chair of Saint Peter is 22 February, commemorating the founding of the See of Antioch; the Roman celebration also included 18 February. Both Masses include the same 'Collect': "O God, who, together with the power of the keys
    of the Kingdom of Heaven, didst bestow on blessed Peter Thy Apostle the pontificate of binding and loosing, grant that by the aid of his intersection we may be released from the yoke of our sins."
    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Gaul to shake, the Bark to become imperiled

    Line 3 of X.58 could be presenting two references for 22 February 2023, Gaul and Vienne being for Saint Paschasius, and the Bark indicating not the current papacy at Rome, but the feast for the Chair of Saint Peter.

    About a hundred Grand Trines were examined from 16 to 25 February 2023, discovering some anomalies. A Double Grand Trine oriented like the Star of David was found for Geneva charts 17 February 2023, without the requisite ominous conditions;
    for the afternoon of 21 February 2023, Fortune and the Vertex moved in trine-alignment to form successive Grand Trines with several celestial bodies (the Moon, Neptune, Venus, Vesta, Jupiter, Chiron and Juno).

    The Part of Fortune is clearly hinted in II.66, and the Vertex (as near-anagram Vitrix) in V.18, where 'son vitrix' works translated as 'his Vertex' for Trinitarian co-founder Saint Felix of Valois. The suggestion from V.65 of principals in
    the affair being hidden could relate to the unseen conceptual points: Vesta as the lady on coals no longer being visible speaks to atmospheric changes rendering the overhead Vault obscured.

    The veil seemed lifted on the pivotal contribution of Saturn when it was realized the ringed planet was involved in only one Grand Trine during the interval examined - and it emerged as a variation on the post-Full Super Moon 16 July 2022 2:
    06 am CEST condition compliant with IV.31, however no longer with the Moon near Saturn. The previous Saturnin Grand Trine was on the false-Midheaven Apex of the Eleventh House cusp: its base has Venus on one side, and the merging of Fortune and the
    Vertex on the other. The new Saturnin Grand Trine occurs 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET, with the base having the Vertex on one side, and Fortune on the other.

    Thus the lunar conjunctions could be separated for Neptune, presenting the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3, and the Vestal sepulchral fire of X.6: the Moon would be passing Venus for the catastrophe to debase her specifically.

    A Venusian Reign starts by entering Aries 20 February 2023 8:56 am CET, and ends when exceeding the relative location of Lilith, 24 February 2023 4:07 pm CET. Venus as Mystery Babylon from Revelation receives her Cup of divine wrath while
    sitting as Queen, rejecting The Great Mourning for Jesus Christ, while asserting (quite accurately of herself as representing modern culture) that she is no widow who might feel such emotional grief.

    The Neptune lunar conjunction occurs 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET at 24 degrees 17 minutes Pisces.

    For Geneva on 22 February 2023 using CET:

    10:26 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 2 degrees 32 minutes Aries;

    10:47 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Apex at false Midheaven on Eleventh House cusp (28 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius), base consisting of Fortune (28 degrees 44 minutes Gemini) and the Vertex (26 degrees 47 minutes Libra), and the East Point
    separately merged with the Node - this is the critical time for cataclysmic onset -

    << 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST / 1:47 am PST >>;

    12:07 pm - Pisces Sun and Aries Moon adjacent at 3 degrees 33 minutes - 'De Sol et Lune' ('With Sun and Moon') from V.66;

    4:52 pm - Vesta lunar conjunct at 6 degrees 24 minutes Aries.

    The final line of V.66 skips ahead to the hybrid solar eclipse of 20 April 2023, visible for Indonesia and Australia: the date coincides with the feast for Saint Servilian, a Trajan martyr beheaded in Rome circa 117.
    Ardente lampe Traian d'or burine
    Burning lamp engraved with Trajan gold

    *

    '...When He Entered
    Through The Gate
    Of Jerusalem..'
    The ringed sports trophy in the foreground of the Sgt Pepper tableau cover image suggests planet Saturn in a warped way, perhaps disclosing intentional references to the Solar System: the jovial circus song aligned with Jupiter energy ending
    Side One was resumed with the long, slow sad song as George Harrison's compositional contribution, immersed in a saturnine tone that was supposedly relieved with deliberate laughter in the outro.

    The similarity of the two Geneva Saturnin Upright Grand Trines suggests the 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST post-Full Super Moon version (IV.31) was the falsifying Cupbearer from the final line of VI.89, with the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET
    variation presenting the Chalice that is drained: its orientation simultaneously recalls the Trinity and the Cup activated by being overturned or inverted.

    The 18 December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine matches the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' because it shifted immediately into a reconstituted version as Fortune proceeded, however this successive pair of Fortune Grand Trines
    was preceeded by the actual 'Chief Pail Of Water,' meaning a Saturnin Grand Trine. When Saturn passed Midheaven in Aquarius 4:22 pm CET, it was in a Grand Trine with the Libran Moon and the Ascendant in Gemini; the Offspring Successive Grand Trines
    followed around 5:35 pm and 6:05 pm CET respectively, as the 'son led in spinning.' The chronology was established by the final line setting the release of Griner as the female captive conducted to freedom through the prior 7 December 2022 association
    with Antioch via hagiology.

    Likewise the Surprise Grand Trine emerging when Fortune has its leap at Dusk 13 December 2022 4:45 pm CET as Saturnin, since Fortune was with Saturn at Midheaven before jumping to the position for a Saturnin-Ascendant-Fortune Grand Trine.

    Dans bois caches soldats jour de Lucie
    Qui ne fut onc si horrible trone

    Near the woods soldiers hidden on the day for Lucy
    For whom there never was so horrible a Throne

    The theme of IX.68 goes beyond mere potentiality in the 'hidden soldiers' as still-subterranean and intact immense magnets of the LHC, with the identifying image of the Black Forest proximity: this day appears designated for the Supreme Being
    Throne issuing the punishing order, that Queen Babylon, as Venus then-reigning, should have the cup she mixed for herself mixed double. The Fortune jump into the Surprise Grand Trine made a double for the simultaneous Grand Trine of Ceres and Pluto with
    the East Point. The Revelation passage has been illuminated so the actual date could be derived.

    The Saturnin Grand Trine was established as the major instrument of Divine Fury for the cataclysm through its prior variant forms.

    The Mobile sign of I.54 was a Solar Grand Trine featured for its Geneva Venusian Nadir resembling a tipping Balance on the Sun-Fulcrum 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, time-equivalent for the US House chamber being announced for the Republican
    majority, whose extreme goals and tactics would prove alarming when the debt-ceiling limit later fell on the feast for a Lombard saint, as reflected in V.42.

    The Lombard reference in VI.16 is Apocalyptic, with heavenly angels carrying out the dark task, intending to infuse commentary on the Tavern shooting at another Lombard feast date, by staging the primary fiery event at the Black Forest place
    with another Lombard association. This manifestation provides potentially double meaning for V.42, with terror for Lombard folk under the Balance, not being tipped but overthrown.

    So the 22 February 2023 return to the Upright Grand Trine form with Saturn at the Vertical-Apex Eleventh House cusp, from that same discovery for 16 July 2022, is especially ominous.

    The lines that refer to lunar conjunctions in the cataclysmic sequence can be identified, with temple implications.

    Corinth, Ephese lors en perplexite
    Corinth, Ephesus then in perplexity
    [III.3, Neptune lunar conjunct 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET]
    Sera meurtri a Venus faisant voeu
    Will be murdered at Venus making a vow

    [VIII.32, Venus lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 10:26 am CET]

    Vesta sepulcre feu eteint apparaitre

    Vesta sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear

    [X.6, Vesta lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 4:52 pm CET]

    Conversely, the Saturnin clues seem to relate primarily to the activating version of the critical 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Vertex, with those enduring its effects being dubbed 'The Saturnins.'

    Les Saturnins brules par les meuniers

    The Saturnins burned by the millers

    [VI.17]

    Par Saturnins endurera le pire

    The worst will be endured by the Saturnins

    [V.24]

    Saturne d'or en fer se changera

    Saturn with gold will convert itself into sword

    A major difference in the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine from the 16 July 2022 version is that Saturn is near the Sun instead of the Moon; Saturn's solar conjunct occurred 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET (noting match with V.42
    enumeration), for the golden factor that designates destructive manifestation.
    Reactions to The Beatles' seven-year presentation varied between regions and timeframes, with societies attempting to judge them based on cultural precepts, while lacking substantive comprehension of their intentions and tactics. A family member
    sends me a text about being certain they were diabolical because of a hand signal made during the promotion for the "Yellow Submarine" animated film, which is like saying the Hopis were like Nazis because they both used the swastika, or that a symbol can
    only have one meaning by however appropriates it - a link to the raw footage from the 11 August 1966 Chicago press conference was provided, without receiving any comment on what the group members actually said when the critical subject of Christianity
    unambiguously emerged. People will generally believe what they want, and utterly disregard what creates cognitive dissonance for them.

    When the known history is integrated with the esoteric facets of the group story, what emerges is neither common knowledge nor easily anticipated: the hysteria-inducing effect of the subliminal psychological transference characterized their
    touring years as a cultural phenomenon, while having little to do with the various productions being planned for recordings; reconstructing the famous episodes with some insight puts a judicial mirror up to contemporary society more than the band, who
    instead exhibit sardonically clever auditory ideas being manifested for an oblivious world, constantly reminding itself that something vaguely monumental was happening, without understanding its profound implications.

    The Beatles eventually won the battle over style: their early rhythm-and-blues approach was racially provocative; baroque and symphonic leanings in the middle presented neo-Classical legitimacy; in their late group phase an unassuming purity
    emerged, so the Sunday Church feeling for "Let It Be" seemed completely genuine. The same elder who scoffed scornfully at their debut on the Ed Sullivan show would express a spiritual devotion to the McCartney tune "Mull Of Kintyre," without consciously
    realizing what the bagpipe sequence might have been conveying. The struggle to delve into their substance remains unfulfilled, since they themselves would not lead into that uncharted territory, merely asserting there were plenty of things yet
    unconsidered.

    The process outlined of Christian regression appears subliminally expressed in their debut album cover of "Baby It's You," where the repeated backing vocal accusation "Cheat! Cheat!" could be applied to Jesus being said to have 'cheated Death.'
    The scatted "Sha-La-La"s appear in two forms: the longer version suggests,

    'Shall I Write
    Another
    LAW?'

    Ending this repetition with the truncated variation implies more simply,

    'Shall I Write A Law?'

    The instrumental solo there, with heavy electric guitar augmented by George Martin note-matching on the brighter-sounding celeste (whose name connotes 'heavenly'), an achievement while limited to twin-track mono, could have given away the entire
    agenda, in part explaining,

    'Start With The Ending:
    His Ascension -
    To Heaven...'


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    Holy icons 'trumped' by molten candle wax immersion - In abject terror frozen, no one will be seen to budge

    The third line confirms Theodora as the widow accompanying Virgin Mary (as Our Lady of Lourdes), by summarizing her life story as opponent of the destruction to holy imagery and relics of saints committed by the Iconoclasts. Use
    of the word 'trempes' for 'dipped' seems particularly well-chosen.
    The word 'rameaux' for 'branches' from VI.29 suggests plural extensions, however with such time-sensitive material a late-stage conjecture is required.

    The critical Geneva Grand Trine from 11 February 2023 appears to be at 2:53 pm CET [8:53 am EST / 5:53 am PST] - it arrives about 2.5 hours into the Mercurial Reign which commences 11 February 2023 12:23 pm CET (when Mercury enters
    Aquarius). Several Grand Trines for the day were observed, with one found compliant.

    During the triangular configuration, Venus in Pisces will be in a trine with the Ascendant in Cancer, both briefly at 19 degrees 12 minutes: this aspect complicating the simultaneous Saturnin Lunar Grand Trine with the East Point
    appears to be how Venus as Mystery Babylon is debased with the Cup of divine wrath emerging for Geneva (the East Point is locally calculated). The Venusian orientation beyond the Midheaven point thus appears inconsequential.
    The subject of religious icons would have become part of The Beatles' myth had they completed their vision for the Butcher photo sessions: in response to the British dismissal of John Lennon's religious views in the controversial
    Cleave interview article as projecting a "holier than thou" attitude, they planned a triptych with the shocking Butcher image as the centerpiece - the undone finishing touch was to be gilded haloes surrounding their heads. The mock reverence was said to
    convey that they saw themselves as merely flesh and blood, however it seemed to work on several levels, and since many found the image disturbing as a US album sleeve cover, that photo version was immediately recalled and pasted over with a more
    innocuous image.

    Continuing the projected timing of a cataclysm for which the recent quakes taking over 25,000 lives was a formidable precursor, the moment of a particular Grand Trine configuration was deduced to be the objective.

    The branches for Theodora as the saint widow suggests some day beyond 11 February; the High-Born from II.92 being Saint Richard of Lucca for the Gallic King of VIII.32 for 7 February merely puts the striking of the cataclysmic event
    past the date of the massively lethal sibling quakes at the Turkey-Syrian border on the 6th.

    The Cup-Bearer falsifying in VI.89 signifies a wrong date, as following the widow and Virgin clue to 11 February, rather than a choice between Grand Trines on a specific date.

    The V.18 phrase 'son Vitrix' interpreted for 'Sans-Vertex' infers by reverse corollary 'Vertex-Without,' a situation where the Vertex is occupied outside the Grand Trine pattern, rather than negatively asserting an inactive non-role.

    A Lombardy feast recurrence should coincide: Saint Juventius, bishop of Pavia, is honored on 12 February; and Blessed Jordan of Saxony was prior-provincial of the Order of Preachers in Lombardy circa 1221 - in 1237 Jordan during a
    pilgrimage to the Holy Land drowned in a shipwreck off the coast of Syria - he has a feast on 13 February.

    For Geneva on 13 February 2023 using CET:

    1 am - Mercury exceeds the locational value of Vesta, thus commencing a Vestal Reign to last until the Sun enters Pisces (18 February 2023 11:35 pm CET);

    3:49 pm - Neptune lunar trine - a possible condition for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3;

    5:01 pm - Solar-Lunar square aspect - recalling 'Sol et Lune' from V.66;

    5:53 pm - Dusk brings a maximum jump for Fortune (II.66), from the top of the chart to the lunar position at the bottom;

    6:07 pm - Saturn falling commences the Saturnin interval;

    6:39 to 6:48 pm - Grand Trine consisting of Lilith (4 degrees 3 minutes Leo), Vesta (2 degrees 26 minutes Aries), and the Part of Fortune (moving between both relative locations in Sagittarius, oriented at the bottom of the chart) -
    the fiery nature of Vesta and the Wind Succubus Lilith suggest this Chalice portends ill-Fortune;

    6:43 pm - Mercury conjoined by the Vertex, in rough opposition with Lilith, and Fortune sextile the Vertex - this extraneous Vertex activity outside the concurrent Grand Trine formation could satisfy V.18, for the critical time in the
    Saturnin interval -

    << 13 February 2023 6:43 pm CET / 12:43 pm EST / 9:43 am PST >>;

    8:19 pm - Venus falls at the Descendant, with Fortune at the Nadir;

    8:30 pm - Neptune falls;

    9:15 pm - Vesta at the Descendant in a rectangular formation with the Ascendant, Lilith and Mercury (Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6);

    9:52 pm - Saturn lunar square.

    The perplexity in this application would regard the Neptune lunar trine, rather than Neptune falling local to Geneva; the next lunar aspect with the Sun as a square would be the prevalent condition for the glittering metals event, as
    in V.66.

    Both the Saturnin interval upon local descent and the subsequent Saturn lunar square could be the subjects of different lines, with context clarifying some ambiguity.
    Post-Vertex Saturnin Chalice To Vex Paternal Amours {14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST}

    The August 1999 Izmit quake was an early major event conjectured prior to occurrence, although the location being named in V.54 as Bisance for Byzantium was not integrated substantively into the awareness of the Cassini spacecraft
    gravity assist engaging during the Earth-flyby (the quake preceding by 20.5 hours) through cross-referencing a set of quatrains. The line of totality for the August 1999 solar eclipse during a Fixed Grand Cross was the transpiercing King in V.54,
    crossing the Black Sea and leaving Byzantium bloody. Also the final line of V.86 depicted the quake as Byzantium crushed by the head of Persia.

    I could sense the sibling quakes of 6 February 2023, striking instead the Turkish border with Syria, as reflected in VI.82, 89, and II.92 line 3, would have a similar high death toll ultimately - and the same story of weakly designed
    structures has emerged. Rescue efforts could trigger avalanches of debris; miners were devising tunnels to assist those operations. The Turkish reference in IV.58 was for 7 December 2022 via hagiology, for timing of the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange. The
    Turkey-Syria border quakes comprise the first stage of the Nephew prophecy (via saintly nephews of Saint Patrick), for Blood, with the second Nephew stage through Fear emerging later.

    The first week of the year had the Speakership debacle foretold in the final line of II.92 using Saint Telemachus; the Mercury solar conjunct of 7 January 2023 attended the beating of Tyre Nichols for the Memphis incitement of X.79; the
    next day the Brasilia insurrection presented the flowering of Hercules' lies, and the people trapped from exiting the presidential palace from II.66. The Nepal plane crash on 15 January 2023 complied with the Lyons-Marseilles encoded event; the Half Moon
    Bay shooting was on the Ulm day of 23 January for Blessed Henry Suso as in VIII.34. Each quatrain case carries its own set of messages, with complex logical intersections.

    The Victor comparison between IV.95 and VI.70 recalls the Big Victor character played by Victor Mature in the 1968 group-ending film "Head" by The Monkees, when their television show had been cancelled, as an inside-joke mocking their
    RCA corporate taskmasters, continuing the extremely subtle pop culture theme that recently surfaced in the prophecies.

    https://www.neatorama.com/2012/02/16/head-the-monkees-strange-movie/

    The Magi Gift Attack theme for the cataclysmic onset in II.92 (fire color of Gold), V.16 (smoke like Frankincense), and VIII.34 (injury and tomb both calling for Myrrh) thus seems to co-exist for this apparent finale to the sequence.

    The 13 February 2023 2023 6:45 pm CET Grand Trine of Lilith-Vesta-Fortune was decidedly not 'Sans-Vertex' ('son vitrix') to satisfy the secret hint in V.18, since Mercury in opposition with triangle point Lilith was conspicuously
    conjoined by the Vertex: thus it could be the falsifying Cupbearer of VI.89, approaching the true Chalice of Divine Fury.

    The Vestal Reign will last until 18 February 2023, however the conditions for the descending celestial lineup being considered for Geneva will transition more quickly: as John Lennon explained of his famous group's demise, 'Wedding
    Bells are breaking up that old gang of mine.' First Venus and Neptune through their conjunction will effectively 'switch places' 15 February 2023 :30 pm CET; then the Sun will overtake Saturn 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET. These two changes alter the
    current compliance, as though backing the prophecy into a corner.

    A daily recurring Grand Trine involving the Midheaven point with Mercury and Ceres asserts itself on the evening of 14 February 2023, the Valentine's Day date corresponding with the 'fatherly amours' vexed in VI.89, on the final evening
    when the participants descending as V.65 suggests will have their ominous potential.

    For Geneva on 14 February 2023 using CET:

    5:55 pm - Dusk brings a jump of Fortune to about 26 degrees from the lunar position;

    6:04 pm - Saturn falling commences the fateful Saturnin interval;

    7:09 to 7:17 pm CET - Grand Trine of Mercury (4.5 degrees Aquarius) with Ceres (6.5 degrees Libra) and Midheaven (reaching 5.5 degrees Gemini 7:12 pm CET), the Vertex around 15 degrees Aquarius forms a weak trine with Mars in Gemini,
    and a weak sextile with Juno in Aries (so the Grand Trine does not seem significantly in an aspect with the Vertex), rendering the critical time -

    << 14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST / 10:12 am PST >>

    - while not yet overtaken by the skewed Nadir, the Moon then appears at the bottom of the chart;

    8:21 pm - Venus descends, presumably in the wake of the cataclysmic onset, thus being debased for X.28, with Fortune nearing the Moon;

    8:26 pm - Neptune at the Descendant simultaneous with the Part of Fortune reaching the Moon, thereby presenting the III.3 perplexity for Neptunian Corinth and lunar Ephesus;

    9:13 pm - Vesta reaching the Descendant is again in a rectangular formation with Mercury, Lilith, and the East Point, providing a visual fulfillment for the 'Vesta sepulchral fire' of X.6.

    The following evening a similar upright Grand Trine forms, yet it would be Neptune facing the debasing descent instead of Venus.

    The Saturn solar conjunct for Geneva 16 February 2023 will coincide with Dusk at 5:55 pm CET.

    The Vertex seems equally uninvolved with all three versions of the Midheaven-Mercury-Ceres Grand Trine on the three consecutive evenings 14 through 16 February 2023, yet only the Valentine's Day version bears the conditions given as
    ominous.
    The currently-daily Midheaven Grand Trine with Mercury and Ceres was probably not intended for the activating Chalice, but the slightly later Grand Trine where Fortune in Sagittarius passes between the relative locations of Lilith past 4
    degrees Leo and Vesta nearing 3 degrees Aries - that is an isolated triple correspondence in the Fire signs for Geneva 14 February 2023 7:49 pm to 7:55 pm CET [1:49 to 1:55 pm EST] omitted in error.
    Vestal Chalice For Venusian Nadir, Then Corinth & Ephesus Found In Axis {15 February 2023 2:33 am CET / 14 February 2023 8:33 pm EST / 5:33 pm PST}

    The requisite conditions in judicial astrology and emergent disastrous precursors have not failed in establishing an intricate trail towards an ultimate double cataclysm whose inevitability appears manifest - the cryptic veracity of the
    French prophecies allow some limited pre-event awareness, which should be refined, if only to facilitate post-mortem acknowledgement. Several major news events since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse have been featured as precursors, incorporating
    precise details beyond random happenings (the serial posting here should demonstrate some elaborations).

    The immense fatalities from the sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border 6 February 2023 occurred on the feast for two nephews of Saint Patrick, enacting II.92 line 3 - 'Great human murder, taken from the Great Nephew'; the situations in
    VI.82 and 89 match, and a complicated comparison between this Nephew of Blood and a later Nephew emerging through Fear appears in the process of current fulfillment.

    Viewing the chart for Geneva's Venusian Nadir 15 February 2023 2:33 am CET showed yet another Grand Trine, then with the Ascendant joining Lilith and Vesta: since Venus is in the debasing Nadir position, this instance is particularly
    ominous.

    Also because Neptune is close to conjoining Venus, when it is at the Nadir two minutes later at 2:35 am CET, at the base of the skewed Prime Vertical, it complements at an oblique angle the Moon nearing opposition with Mars, with the two
    appearing aligned slightly off the Ecliptic. The Mars lunar opposition technically takes place later that morning at 3:05 am CET, yet the rough impression exists in the earlier charts.

    So two minutes after the potential Venusian debasement cataclysmic onset, Neptune and the Moon separately define a dual-axis correspondence for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity from III.3.

    Venus reaching the Nadir ends the Saturnin interval; and the Vestal Reign culminates in the fateful Grand Trine with Lilith and the Ascendant - it takes 'three to tango' in forming the Chalice.

    The Vertex around 16 degrees Cancer has no aspects involving or competing significantly with the transitory Chalice Grand Trine.

    The principal celestial bodies are then beneath the Ecliptic, excluding Mars near the Descendant: Ceres, Lilith and Pallas share the overhead Vault, compliant with V.65 stipulating Vesta herself would not be visible.

    Since the Ascendant is involved, the Grand Trine points towards the Left, rather than appearing like a Balance, or moving in rotation.
    Saturnin Cup Debases Queen Venus In Lunar Temple [22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST]

    The temporal separation between the 6 February 2023 sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border and the cataclysmic onset is slightly more extensive than presumed, accepting the Vienne date as 22 February 2023 for Saint Paschasius, bishop of
    Vienne, who was granted supremacy over seven provinces by Pope Sylvester I circa 322. Two Lombardy dates are adjacent: Saint Peter Damian with a 21 February feast was legate to Milan for Pope Nicholas II circa 1059; and Blessed Anselm of Milan was a
    friar whose body was enshrined in the church of Santa Maria della Pace after his death in 1481.

    The Magi Gift Attack theme acquires the necessary date of a saint associated with myrrh via Saint Polycarp, bishop of Smyrna (the location known for myrrh), who was to be burned alive in a stadium circa 155, assuring his executioners there
    was no need to nail him to the pyre: from a witness account, "Like a ship's sail swirling in the wind, the flame became as it were a dome encircling the martyr's body. Surrounded by the fire, his body was like a bread that is baked, or gold and silver
    white-hot in a furnace, not like flesh that has been burnt. So sweet a fragrance came to us that it was like that of burning incense, or some other costly and sweet-smelling gum." So the saint associated with the Myrrh location set aflame exhibited the
    properties of the gummy substance, although Polycarp did not perish by the fire.

    Perceiving Polycarp to be unharmed, the execution proceeded using a dagger to stab him to death, then his corpse was burned.

    "'I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire'" {Revelation 3:18}

    Both Blessed Anselm of Milan and Saint Polycarp share the 23 February feast day.

    Other prophetic references become clear around these dates.

    The feast of the Chair of Saint Peter is 22 February, commemorating the founding of the See of Antioch; the Roman celebration also included 18 February. Both Masses include the same 'Collect': "O God, who, together with the power of the keys
    of the Kingdom of Heaven, didst bestow on blessed Peter Thy Apostle the pontificate of binding and loosing, grant that by the aid of his intersection we may be released from the yoke of our sins."
    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Gaul to shake, the Bark to become imperiled

    Line 3 of X.58 could be presenting two references for 22 February 2023, Gaul and Vienne being for Saint Paschasius, and the Bark indicating not the current papacy at Rome, but the feast for the Chair of Saint Peter.

    About a hundred Grand Trines were examined from 16 to 25 February 2023, discovering some anomalies. A Double Grand Trine oriented like the Star of David was found for Geneva charts 17 February 2023, without the requisite ominous conditions;
    for the afternoon of 21 February 2023, Fortune and the Vertex moved in trine-alignment to form successive Grand Trines with several celestial bodies (the Moon, Neptune, Venus, Vesta, Jupiter, Chiron and Juno).

    The Part of Fortune is clearly hinted in II.66, and the Vertex (as near-anagram Vitrix) in V.18, where 'son vitrix' works translated as 'his Vertex' for Trinitarian co-founder Saint Felix of Valois. The suggestion from V.65 of principals in
    the affair being hidden could relate to the unseen conceptual points: Vesta as the lady on coals no longer being visible speaks to atmospheric changes rendering the overhead Vault obscured.

    The veil seemed lifted on the pivotal contribution of Saturn when it was realized the ringed planet was involved in only one Grand Trine during the interval examined - and it emerged as a variation on the post-Full Super Moon 16 July 2022 2:
    06 am CEST condition compliant with IV.31, however no longer with the Moon near Saturn. The previous Saturnin Grand Trine was on the false-Midheaven Apex of the Eleventh House cusp: its base has Venus on one side, and the merging of Fortune and the
    Vertex on the other. The new Saturnin Grand Trine occurs 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET, with the base having the Vertex on one side, and Fortune on the other.

    Thus the lunar conjunctions could be separated for Neptune, presenting the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3, and the Vestal sepulchral fire of X.6: the Moon would be passing Venus for the catastrophe to debase her specifically.

    A Venusian Reign starts by entering Aries 20 February 2023 8:56 am CET, and ends when exceeding the relative location of Lilith, 24 February 2023 4:07 pm CET. Venus as Mystery Babylon from Revelation receives her Cup of divine wrath while
    sitting as Queen, rejecting The Great Mourning for Jesus Christ, while asserting (quite accurately of herself as representing modern culture) that she is no widow who might feel such emotional grief.

    The Neptune lunar conjunction occurs 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET at 24 degrees 17 minutes Pisces.

    For Geneva on 22 February 2023 using CET:

    10:26 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 2 degrees 32 minutes Aries;

    10:47 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Apex at false Midheaven on Eleventh House cusp (28 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius), base consisting of Fortune (28 degrees 44 minutes Gemini) and the Vertex (26 degrees 47 minutes Libra), and the East Point
    separately merged with the Node - this is the critical time for cataclysmic onset -

    << 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST / 1:47 am PST >>;

    12:07 pm - Pisces Sun and Aries Moon adjacent at 3 degrees 33 minutes - 'De Sol et Lune' ('With Sun and Moon') from V.66;

    4:52 pm - Vesta lunar conjunct at 6 degrees 24 minutes Aries.

    The final line of V.66 skips ahead to the hybrid solar eclipse of 20 April 2023, visible for Indonesia and Australia: the date coincides with the feast for Saint Servilian, a Trajan martyr beheaded in Rome circa 117.
    Ardente lampe Traian d'or burine
    Burning lamp engraved with Trajan gold

    *

    '...When He Entered
    Through The Gate
    Of Jerusalem..'
    The ringed sports trophy in the foreground of the Sgt Pepper tableau cover image suggests planet Saturn in a warped way, perhaps disclosing intentional references to the Solar System: the jovial circus song aligned with Jupiter energy ending
    Side One was resumed with the long, slow sad song as George Harrison's compositional contribution, immersed in a saturnine tone that was supposedly relieved with deliberate laughter in the outro.

    The similarity of the two Geneva Saturnin Upright Grand Trines suggests the 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST post-Full Super Moon version (IV.31) was the falsifying Cupbearer from the final line of VI.89, with the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET
    variation presenting the Chalice that is drained: its orientation simultaneously recalls the Trinity and the Cup activated by being overturned or inverted.

    The 18 December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine matches the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' because it shifted immediately into a reconstituted version as Fortune proceeded, however this successive pair of Fortune Grand Trines
    was preceeded by the actual 'Chief Pail Of Water,' meaning a Saturnin Grand Trine. When Saturn passed Midheaven in Aquarius 4:22 pm CET, it was in a Grand Trine with the Libran Moon and the Ascendant in Gemini; the Offspring Successive Grand Trines
    followed around 5:35 pm and 6:05 pm CET respectively, as the 'son led in spinning.' The chronology was established by the final line setting the release of Griner as the female captive conducted to freedom through the prior 7 December 2022 association
    with Antioch via hagiology.

    Likewise the Surprise Grand Trine emerging when Fortune has its leap at Dusk 13 December 2022 4:45 pm CET as Saturnin, since Fortune was with Saturn at Midheaven before jumping to the position for a Saturnin-Ascendant-Fortune Grand Trine.

    Dans bois caches soldats jour de Lucie
    Qui ne fut onc si horrible trone

    Near the woods soldiers hidden on the day for Lucy
    For whom there never was so horrible a Throne

    The theme of IX.68 goes beyond mere potentiality in the 'hidden soldiers' as still-subterranean and intact immense magnets of the LHC, with the identifying image of the Black Forest proximity: this day appears designated for the Supreme Being
    Throne issuing the punishing order, that Queen Babylon, as Venus then-reigning, should have the cup she mixed for herself mixed double. The Fortune jump into the Surprise Grand Trine made a double for the simultaneous Grand Trine of Ceres and Pluto with
    the East Point. The Revelation passage has been illuminated so the actual date could be derived.

    The Saturnin Grand Trine was established as the major instrument of Divine Fury for the cataclysm through its prior variant forms.

    The Mobile sign of I.54 was a Solar Grand Trine featured for its Geneva Venusian Nadir resembling a tipping Balance on the Sun-Fulcrum 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, time-equivalent for the US House chamber being announced for the Republican
    majority, whose extreme goals and tactics would prove alarming when the debt-ceiling limit later fell on the feast for a Lombard saint, as reflected in V.42.

    The Lombard reference in VI.16 is Apocalyptic, with heavenly angels carrying out the dark task, intending to infuse commentary on the Tavern shooting at another Lombard feast date, by staging the primary fiery event at the Black Forest place
    with another Lombard association. This manifestation provides potentially double meaning for V.42, with terror for Lombard folk under the Balance, not being tipped but overthrown.

    So the 22 February 2023 return to the Upright Grand Trine form with Saturn at the Vertical-Apex Eleventh House cusp, from that same discovery for 16 July 2022, is especially ominous.

    The lines that refer to lunar conjunctions in the cataclysmic sequence can be identified, with temple implications.

    Corinth, Ephese lors en perplexite
    Corinth, Ephesus then in perplexity
    [III.3, Neptune lunar conjunct 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET]
    Sera meurtri a Venus faisant voeu
    Will be murdered at Venus making a vow

    [VIII.32, Venus lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 10:26 am CET]

    Vesta sepulcre feu eteint apparaitre

    Vesta sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear

    [X.6, Vesta lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 4:52 pm CET]

    Conversely, the Saturnin clues seem to relate primarily to the activating version of the critical 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Vertex, with those enduring its effects being dubbed 'The Saturnins.'

    Les Saturnins brules par les meuniers

    The Saturnins burned by the millers

    [VI.17]

    Par Saturnins endurera le pire

    The worst will be endured by the Saturnins

    [V.24]

    Saturne d'or en fer se changera

    Saturn with gold will convert itself into sword

    A major difference in the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine from the 16 July 2022 version is that Saturn is near the Sun instead of the Moon; Saturn's solar conjunct occurred 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET (noting match with V.42
    enumeration), for the golden factor that designates destructive manifestation.
    Reactions to The Beatles' seven-year presentation varied between regions and timeframes, with societies attempting to judge them based on cultural precepts, while lacking substantive comprehension of their intentions and tactics. A family member
    sends me a text about being certain they were diabolical because of a hand signal made during the promotion for the "Yellow Submarine" animated film, which is like saying the Hopis were like Nazis because they both used the swastika, or that a symbol can
    only have one meaning by however appropriates it - a link to the raw footage from the 11 August 1966 Chicago press conference was provided, without receiving any comment on what the group members actually said when the critical subject of Christianity
    unambiguously emerged. People will generally believe what they want, and utterly disregard what creates cognitive dissonance for them.

    When the known history is integrated with the esoteric facets of the group story, what emerges is neither common knowledge nor easily anticipated: the hysteria-inducing effect of the subliminal psychological transference characterized their
    touring years as a cultural phenomenon, while having little to do with the various productions being planned for recordings; reconstructing the famous episodes with some insight puts a judicial mirror up to contemporary society more than the band, who
    instead exhibit sardonically clever auditory ideas being manifested for an oblivious world, constantly reminding itself that something vaguely monumental was happening, without understanding its profound implications.

    The Beatles eventually won the battle over style: their early rhythm-and-blues approach was racially provocative; baroque and symphonic leanings in the middle presented neo-Classical legitimacy; in their late group phase an unassuming purity
    emerged, so the Sunday Church feeling for "Let It Be" seemed completely genuine. The same elder who scoffed scornfully at their debut on the Ed Sullivan show would express a spiritual devotion to the McCartney tune "Mull Of Kintyre," without consciously
    realizing what the bagpipe sequence might have been conveying. The struggle to delve into their substance remains unfulfilled, since they themselves would not lead into that uncharted territory, merely asserting there were plenty of things yet
    unconsidered.

    The process outlined of Christian regression appears subliminally expressed in their debut album cover of "Baby It's You," where the repeated backing vocal accusation "Cheat! Cheat!" could be applied to Jesus being said to have 'cheated Death.'
    The scatted "Sha-La-La"s appear in two forms: the longer version suggests,

    'Shall I Write
    Another
    LAW?'

    Ending this repetition with the truncated variation implies more simply,

    'Shall I Write A Law?'

    The instrumental solo there, with heavy electric guitar augmented by George Martin note-matching on the brighter-sounding celeste (whose name connotes 'heavenly'), an achievement while limited to twin-track mono, could have given away the entire
    agenda, in part explaining,

    'Start With The Ending:
    His Ascension -
    To Heaven...'


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    Holy icons 'trumped' by molten candle wax immersion - In abject terror frozen, no one will be seen to budge

    The third line confirms Theodora as the widow accompanying Virgin Mary (as Our Lady of Lourdes), by summarizing her life story as opponent of the destruction to holy imagery and relics of saints committed by the Iconoclasts. Use
    of the word 'trempes' for 'dipped' seems particularly well-chosen.
    The word 'rameaux' for 'branches' from VI.29 suggests plural extensions, however with such time-sensitive material a late-stage conjecture is required.

    The critical Geneva Grand Trine from 11 February 2023 appears to be at 2:53 pm CET [8:53 am EST / 5:53 am PST] - it arrives about 2.5 hours into the Mercurial Reign which commences 11 February 2023 12:23 pm CET (when Mercury enters
    Aquarius). Several Grand Trines for the day were observed, with one found compliant.

    During the triangular configuration, Venus in Pisces will be in a trine with the Ascendant in Cancer, both briefly at 19 degrees 12 minutes: this aspect complicating the simultaneous Saturnin Lunar Grand Trine with the East Point
    appears to be how Venus as Mystery Babylon is debased with the Cup of divine wrath emerging for Geneva (the East Point is locally calculated). The Venusian orientation beyond the Midheaven point thus appears inconsequential.
    The subject of religious icons would have become part of The Beatles' myth had they completed their vision for the Butcher photo sessions: in response to the British dismissal of John Lennon's religious views in the controversial
    Cleave interview article as projecting a "holier than thou" attitude, they planned a triptych with the shocking Butcher image as the centerpiece - the undone finishing touch was to be gilded haloes surrounding their heads. The mock reverence was said to
    convey that they saw themselves as merely flesh and blood, however it seemed to work on several levels, and since many found the image disturbing as a US album sleeve cover, that photo version was immediately recalled and pasted over with a more
    innocuous image.

    Continuing the projected timing of a cataclysm for which the recent quakes taking over 25,000 lives was a formidable precursor, the moment of a particular Grand Trine configuration was deduced to be the objective.

    The branches for Theodora as the saint widow suggests some day beyond 11 February; the High-Born from II.92 being Saint Richard of Lucca for the Gallic King of VIII.32 for 7 February merely puts the striking of the cataclysmic event
    past the date of the massively lethal sibling quakes at the Turkey-Syrian border on the 6th.

    The Cup-Bearer falsifying in VI.89 signifies a wrong date, as following the widow and Virgin clue to 11 February, rather than a choice between Grand Trines on a specific date.

    The V.18 phrase 'son Vitrix' interpreted for 'Sans-Vertex' infers by reverse corollary 'Vertex-Without,' a situation where the Vertex is occupied outside the Grand Trine pattern, rather than negatively asserting an inactive non-role.

    A Lombardy feast recurrence should coincide: Saint Juventius, bishop of Pavia, is honored on 12 February; and Blessed Jordan of Saxony was prior-provincial of the Order of Preachers in Lombardy circa 1221 - in 1237 Jordan during a
    pilgrimage to the Holy Land drowned in a shipwreck off the coast of Syria - he has a feast on 13 February.

    For Geneva on 13 February 2023 using CET:

    1 am - Mercury exceeds the locational value of Vesta, thus commencing a Vestal Reign to last until the Sun enters Pisces (18 February 2023 11:35 pm CET);

    3:49 pm - Neptune lunar trine - a possible condition for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3;

    5:01 pm - Solar-Lunar square aspect - recalling 'Sol et Lune' from V.66;

    5:53 pm - Dusk brings a maximum jump for Fortune (II.66), from the top of the chart to the lunar position at the bottom;

    6:07 pm - Saturn falling commences the Saturnin interval;

    6:39 to 6:48 pm - Grand Trine consisting of Lilith (4 degrees 3 minutes Leo), Vesta (2 degrees 26 minutes Aries), and the Part of Fortune (moving between both relative locations in Sagittarius, oriented at the bottom of the chart) -
    the fiery nature of Vesta and the Wind Succubus Lilith suggest this Chalice portends ill-Fortune;

    6:43 pm - Mercury conjoined by the Vertex, in rough opposition with Lilith, and Fortune sextile the Vertex - this extraneous Vertex activity outside the concurrent Grand Trine formation could satisfy V.18, for the critical time in the
    Saturnin interval -

    << 13 February 2023 6:43 pm CET / 12:43 pm EST / 9:43 am PST >>;

    8:19 pm - Venus falls at the Descendant, with Fortune at the Nadir;

    8:30 pm - Neptune falls;

    9:15 pm - Vesta at the Descendant in a rectangular formation with the Ascendant, Lilith and Mercury (Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6);

    9:52 pm - Saturn lunar square.

    The perplexity in this application would regard the Neptune lunar trine, rather than Neptune falling local to Geneva; the next lunar aspect with the Sun as a square would be the prevalent condition for the glittering metals event, as
    in V.66.

    Both the Saturnin interval upon local descent and the subsequent Saturn lunar square could be the subjects of different lines, with context clarifying some ambiguity.
    Post-Vertex Saturnin Chalice To Vex Paternal Amours {14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST}

    The August 1999 Izmit quake was an early major event conjectured prior to occurrence, although the location being named in V.54 as Bisance for Byzantium was not integrated substantively into the awareness of the Cassini spacecraft
    gravity assist engaging during the Earth-flyby (the quake preceding by 20.5 hours) through cross-referencing a set of quatrains. The line of totality for the August 1999 solar eclipse during a Fixed Grand Cross was the transpiercing King in V.54,
    crossing the Black Sea and leaving Byzantium bloody. Also the final line of V.86 depicted the quake as Byzantium crushed by the head of Persia.

    I could sense the sibling quakes of 6 February 2023, striking instead the Turkish border with Syria, as reflected in VI.82, 89, and II.92 line 3, would have a similar high death toll ultimately - and the same story of weakly designed
    structures has emerged. Rescue efforts could trigger avalanches of debris; miners were devising tunnels to assist those operations. The Turkish reference in IV.58 was for 7 December 2022 via hagiology, for timing of the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange. The
    Turkey-Syria border quakes comprise the first stage of the Nephew prophecy (via saintly nephews of Saint Patrick), for Blood, with the second Nephew stage through Fear emerging later.

    The first week of the year had the Speakership debacle foretold in the final line of II.92 using Saint Telemachus; the Mercury solar conjunct of 7 January 2023 attended the beating of Tyre Nichols for the Memphis incitement of X.79; the
    next day the Brasilia insurrection presented the flowering of Hercules' lies, and the people trapped from exiting the presidential palace from II.66. The Nepal plane crash on 15 January 2023 complied with the Lyons-Marseilles encoded event; the Half Moon
    Bay shooting was on the Ulm day of 23 January for Blessed Henry Suso as in VIII.34. Each quatrain case carries its own set of messages, with complex logical intersections.

    The Victor comparison between IV.95 and VI.70 recalls the Big Victor character played by Victor Mature in the 1968 group-ending film "Head" by The Monkees, when their television show had been cancelled, as an inside-joke mocking their
    RCA corporate taskmasters, continuing the extremely subtle pop culture theme that recently surfaced in the prophecies.

    https://www.neatorama.com/2012/02/16/head-the-monkees-strange-movie/

    The Magi Gift Attack theme for the cataclysmic onset in II.92 (fire color of Gold), V.16 (smoke like Frankincense), and VIII.34 (injury and tomb both calling for Myrrh) thus seems to co-exist for this apparent finale to the sequence.

    The 13 February 2023 2023 6:45 pm CET Grand Trine of Lilith-Vesta-Fortune was decidedly not 'Sans-Vertex' ('son vitrix') to satisfy the secret hint in V.18, since Mercury in opposition with triangle point Lilith was conspicuously
    conjoined by the Vertex: thus it could be the falsifying Cupbearer of VI.89, approaching the true Chalice of Divine Fury.

    The Vestal Reign will last until 18 February 2023, however the conditions for the descending celestial lineup being considered for Geneva will transition more quickly: as John Lennon explained of his famous group's demise, 'Wedding
    Bells are breaking up that old gang of mine.' First Venus and Neptune through their conjunction will effectively 'switch places' 15 February 2023 :30 pm CET; then the Sun will overtake Saturn 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET. These two changes alter the
    current compliance, as though backing the prophecy into a corner.

    A daily recurring Grand Trine involving the Midheaven point with Mercury and Ceres asserts itself on the evening of 14 February 2023, the Valentine's Day date corresponding with the 'fatherly amours' vexed in VI.89, on the final evening
    when the participants descending as V.65 suggests will have their ominous potential.

    For Geneva on 14 February 2023 using CET:

    5:55 pm - Dusk brings a jump of Fortune to about 26 degrees from the lunar position;

    6:04 pm - Saturn falling commences the fateful Saturnin interval;

    7:09 to 7:17 pm CET - Grand Trine of Mercury (4.5 degrees Aquarius) with Ceres (6.5 degrees Libra) and Midheaven (reaching 5.5 degrees Gemini 7:12 pm CET), the Vertex around 15 degrees Aquarius forms a weak trine with Mars in Gemini,
    and a weak sextile with Juno in Aries (so the Grand Trine does not seem significantly in an aspect with the Vertex), rendering the critical time -

    << 14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST / 10:12 am PST >>

    - while not yet overtaken by the skewed Nadir, the Moon then appears at the bottom of the chart;

    8:21 pm - Venus descends, presumably in the wake of the cataclysmic onset, thus being debased for X.28, with Fortune nearing the Moon;

    8:26 pm - Neptune at the Descendant simultaneous with the Part of Fortune reaching the Moon, thereby presenting the III.3 perplexity for Neptunian Corinth and lunar Ephesus;

    9:13 pm - Vesta reaching the Descendant is again in a rectangular formation with Mercury, Lilith, and the East Point, providing a visual fulfillment for the 'Vesta sepulchral fire' of X.6.

    The following evening a similar upright Grand Trine forms, yet it would be Neptune facing the debasing descent instead of Venus.

    The Saturn solar conjunct for Geneva 16 February 2023 will coincide with Dusk at 5:55 pm CET.

    The Vertex seems equally uninvolved with all three versions of the Midheaven-Mercury-Ceres Grand Trine on the three consecutive evenings 14 through 16 February 2023, yet only the Valentine's Day version bears the conditions given as
    ominous.
    The currently-daily Midheaven Grand Trine with Mercury and Ceres was probably not intended for the activating Chalice, but the slightly later Grand Trine where Fortune in Sagittarius passes between the relative locations of Lilith past 4
    degrees Leo and Vesta nearing 3 degrees Aries - that is an isolated triple correspondence in the Fire signs for Geneva 14 February 2023 7:49 pm to 7:55 pm CET [1:49 to 1:55 pm EST] omitted in error.
    Vestal Chalice For Venusian Nadir, Then Corinth & Ephesus Found In Axis {15 February 2023 2:33 am CET / 14 February 2023 8:33 pm EST / 5:33 pm PST}

    The requisite conditions in judicial astrology and emergent disastrous precursors have not failed in establishing an intricate trail towards an ultimate double cataclysm whose inevitability appears manifest - the cryptic veracity of the
    French prophecies allow some limited pre-event awareness, which should be refined, if only to facilitate post-mortem acknowledgement. Several major news events since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse have been featured as precursors, incorporating
    precise details beyond random happenings (the serial posting here should demonstrate some elaborations).

    The immense fatalities from the sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border 6 February 2023 occurred on the feast for two nephews of Saint Patrick, enacting II.92 line 3 - 'Great human murder, taken from the Great Nephew'; the situations in
    VI.82 and 89 match, and a complicated comparison between this Nephew of Blood and a later Nephew emerging through Fear appears in the process of current fulfillment.

    Viewing the chart for Geneva's Venusian Nadir 15 February 2023 2:33 am CET showed yet another Grand Trine, then with the Ascendant joining Lilith and Vesta: since Venus is in the debasing Nadir position, this instance is particularly
    ominous.

    Also because Neptune is close to conjoining Venus, when it is at the Nadir two minutes later at 2:35 am CET, at the base of the skewed Prime Vertical, it complements at an oblique angle the Moon nearing opposition with Mars, with the two
    appearing aligned slightly off the Ecliptic. The Mars lunar opposition technically takes place later that morning at 3:05 am CET, yet the rough impression exists in the earlier charts.

    So two minutes after the potential Venusian debasement cataclysmic onset, Neptune and the Moon separately define a dual-axis correspondence for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity from III.3.

    Venus reaching the Nadir ends the Saturnin interval; and the Vestal Reign culminates in the fateful Grand Trine with Lilith and the Ascendant - it takes 'three to tango' in forming the Chalice.

    The Vertex around 16 degrees Cancer has no aspects involving or competing significantly with the transitory Chalice Grand Trine.

    The principal celestial bodies are then beneath the Ecliptic, excluding Mars near the Descendant: Ceres, Lilith and Pallas share the overhead Vault, compliant with V.65 stipulating Vesta herself would not be visible.

    Since the Ascendant is involved, the Grand Trine points towards the Left, rather than appearing like a Balance, or moving in rotation.
    Saturnin Cup Debases Queen Venus In Lunar Temple [22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST]

    The temporal separation between the 6 February 2023 sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border and the cataclysmic onset is slightly more extensive than presumed, accepting the Vienne date as 22 February 2023 for Saint Paschasius, bishop of
    Vienne, who was granted supremacy over seven provinces by Pope Sylvester I circa 322. Two Lombardy dates are adjacent: Saint Peter Damian with a 21 February feast was legate to Milan for Pope Nicholas II circa 1059; and Blessed Anselm of Milan was a
    friar whose body was enshrined in the church of Santa Maria della Pace after his death in 1481.

    The Magi Gift Attack theme acquires the necessary date of a saint associated with myrrh via Saint Polycarp, bishop of Smyrna (the location known for myrrh), who was to be burned alive in a stadium circa 155, assuring his executioners there
    was no need to nail him to the pyre: from a witness account, "Like a ship's sail swirling in the wind, the flame became as it were a dome encircling the martyr's body. Surrounded by the fire, his body was like a bread that is baked, or gold and silver
    white-hot in a furnace, not like flesh that has been burnt. So sweet a fragrance came to us that it was like that of burning incense, or some other costly and sweet-smelling gum." So the saint associated with the Myrrh location set aflame exhibited the
    properties of the gummy substance, although Polycarp did not perish by the fire.

    Perceiving Polycarp to be unharmed, the execution proceeded using a dagger to stab him to death, then his corpse was burned.

    "'I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire'" {Revelation 3:18}

    Both Blessed Anselm of Milan and Saint Polycarp share the 23 February feast day.

    Other prophetic references become clear around these dates.

    The feast of the Chair of Saint Peter is 22 February, commemorating the founding of the See of Antioch; the Roman celebration also included 18 February. Both Masses include the same 'Collect': "O God, who, together with the power of the keys
    of the Kingdom of Heaven, didst bestow on blessed Peter Thy Apostle the pontificate of binding and loosing, grant that by the aid of his intersection we may be released from the yoke of our sins."
    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Gaul to shake, the Bark to become imperiled

    Line 3 of X.58 could be presenting two references for 22 February 2023, Gaul and Vienne being for Saint Paschasius, and the Bark indicating not the current papacy at Rome, but the feast for the Chair of Saint Peter.

    About a hundred Grand Trines were examined from 16 to 25 February 2023, discovering some anomalies. A Double Grand Trine oriented like the Star of David was found for Geneva charts 17 February 2023, without the requisite ominous conditions;
    for the afternoon of 21 February 2023, Fortune and the Vertex moved in trine-alignment to form successive Grand Trines with several celestial bodies (the Moon, Neptune, Venus, Vesta, Jupiter, Chiron and Juno).

    The Part of Fortune is clearly hinted in II.66, and the Vertex (as near-anagram Vitrix) in V.18, where 'son vitrix' works translated as 'his Vertex' for Trinitarian co-founder Saint Felix of Valois. The suggestion from V.65 of principals in
    the affair being hidden could relate to the unseen conceptual points: Vesta as the lady on coals no longer being visible speaks to atmospheric changes rendering the overhead Vault obscured.

    The veil seemed lifted on the pivotal contribution of Saturn when it was realized the ringed planet was involved in only one Grand Trine during the interval examined - and it emerged as a variation on the post-Full Super Moon 16 July 2022 2:
    06 am CEST condition compliant with IV.31, however no longer with the Moon near Saturn. The previous Saturnin Grand Trine was on the false-Midheaven Apex of the Eleventh House cusp: its base has Venus on one side, and the merging of Fortune and the
    Vertex on the other. The new Saturnin Grand Trine occurs 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET, with the base having the Vertex on one side, and Fortune on the other.

    Thus the lunar conjunctions could be separated for Neptune, presenting the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3, and the Vestal sepulchral fire of X.6: the Moon would be passing Venus for the catastrophe to debase her specifically.

    A Venusian Reign starts by entering Aries 20 February 2023 8:56 am CET, and ends when exceeding the relative location of Lilith, 24 February 2023 4:07 pm CET. Venus as Mystery Babylon from Revelation receives her Cup of divine wrath while
    sitting as Queen, rejecting The Great Mourning for Jesus Christ, while asserting (quite accurately of herself as representing modern culture) that she is no widow who might feel such emotional grief.

    The Neptune lunar conjunction occurs 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET at 24 degrees 17 minutes Pisces.

    For Geneva on 22 February 2023 using CET:

    10:26 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 2 degrees 32 minutes Aries;

    10:47 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Apex at false Midheaven on Eleventh House cusp (28 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius), base consisting of Fortune (28 degrees 44 minutes Gemini) and the Vertex (26 degrees 47 minutes Libra), and the East Point
    separately merged with the Node - this is the critical time for cataclysmic onset -

    << 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST / 1:47 am PST >>;

    12:07 pm - Pisces Sun and Aries Moon adjacent at 3 degrees 33 minutes - 'De Sol et Lune' ('With Sun and Moon') from V.66;

    4:52 pm - Vesta lunar conjunct at 6 degrees 24 minutes Aries.

    The final line of V.66 skips ahead to the hybrid solar eclipse of 20 April 2023, visible for Indonesia and Australia: the date coincides with the feast for Saint Servilian, a Trajan martyr beheaded in Rome circa 117.
    Ardente lampe Traian d'or burine
    Burning lamp engraved with Trajan gold

    *

    '...When He Entered
    Through The Gate
    Of Jerusalem..'
    The ringed sports trophy in the foreground of the Sgt Pepper tableau cover image suggests planet Saturn in a warped way, perhaps disclosing intentional references to the Solar System: the jovial circus song aligned with Jupiter energy ending
    Side One was resumed with the long, slow sad song as George Harrison's compositional contribution, immersed in a saturnine tone that was supposedly relieved with deliberate laughter in the outro.

    The similarity of the two Geneva Saturnin Upright Grand Trines suggests the 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST post-Full Super Moon version (IV.31) was the falsifying Cupbearer from the final line of VI.89, with the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET
    variation presenting the Chalice that is drained: its orientation simultaneously recalls the Trinity and the Cup activated by being overturned or inverted.

    The 18 December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine matches the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' because it shifted immediately into a reconstituted version as Fortune proceeded, however this successive pair of Fortune Grand Trines
    was preceeded by the actual 'Chief Pail Of Water,' meaning a Saturnin Grand Trine. When Saturn passed Midheaven in Aquarius 4:22 pm CET, it was in a Grand Trine with the Libran Moon and the Ascendant in Gemini; the Offspring Successive Grand Trines
    followed around 5:35 pm and 6:05 pm CET respectively, as the 'son led in spinning.' The chronology was established by the final line setting the release of Griner as the female captive conducted to freedom through the prior 7 December 2022 association
    with Antioch via hagiology.

    Likewise the Surprise Grand Trine emerging when Fortune has its leap at Dusk 13 December 2022 4:45 pm CET as Saturnin, since Fortune was with Saturn at Midheaven before jumping to the position for a Saturnin-Ascendant-Fortune Grand Trine.

    Dans bois caches soldats jour de Lucie
    Qui ne fut onc si horrible trone

    Near the woods soldiers hidden on the day for Lucy
    For whom there never was so horrible a Throne

    The theme of IX.68 goes beyond mere potentiality in the 'hidden soldiers' as still-subterranean and intact immense magnets of the LHC, with the identifying image of the Black Forest proximity: this day appears designated for the Supreme Being
    Throne issuing the punishing order, that Queen Babylon, as Venus then-reigning, should have the cup she mixed for herself mixed double. The Fortune jump into the Surprise Grand Trine made a double for the simultaneous Grand Trine of Ceres and Pluto with
    the East Point. The Revelation passage has been illuminated so the actual date could be derived.

    The Saturnin Grand Trine was established as the major instrument of Divine Fury for the cataclysm through its prior variant forms.

    The Mobile sign of I.54 was a Solar Grand Trine featured for its Geneva Venusian Nadir resembling a tipping Balance on the Sun-Fulcrum 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, time-equivalent for the US House chamber being announced for the Republican
    majority, whose extreme goals and tactics would prove alarming when the debt-ceiling limit later fell on the feast for a Lombard saint, as reflected in V.42.

    The Lombard reference in VI.16 is Apocalyptic, with heavenly angels carrying out the dark task, intending to infuse commentary on the Tavern shooting at another Lombard feast date, by staging the primary fiery event at the Black Forest place
    with another Lombard association. This manifestation provides potentially double meaning for V.42, with terror for Lombard folk under the Balance, not being tipped but overthrown.

    So the 22 February 2023 return to the Upright Grand Trine form with Saturn at the Vertical-Apex Eleventh House cusp, from that same discovery for 16 July 2022, is especially ominous.

    The lines that refer to lunar conjunctions in the cataclysmic sequence can be identified, with temple implications.

    Corinth, Ephese lors en perplexite
    Corinth, Ephesus then in perplexity
    [III.3, Neptune lunar conjunct 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET]
    Sera meurtri a Venus faisant voeu
    Will be murdered at Venus making a vow

    [VIII.32, Venus lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 10:26 am CET]

    Vesta sepulcre feu eteint apparaitre

    Vesta sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear

    [X.6, Vesta lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 4:52 pm CET]

    Conversely, the Saturnin clues seem to relate primarily to the activating version of the critical 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Vertex, with those enduring its effects being dubbed 'The Saturnins.'

    Les Saturnins brules par les meuniers

    The Saturnins burned by the millers

    [VI.17]

    Par Saturnins endurera le pire

    The worst will be endured by the Saturnins

    [V.24]

    Saturne d'or en fer se changera

    Saturn with gold will convert itself into sword

    A major difference in the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine from the 16 July 2022 version is that Saturn is near the Sun instead of the Moon; Saturn's solar conjunct occurred 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET (noting match with V.42
    enumeration), for the golden factor that designates destructive manifestation.
    Reactions to The Beatles' seven-year presentation varied between regions and timeframes, with societies attempting to judge them based on cultural precepts, while lacking substantive comprehension of their intentions and tactics. A family member
    sends me a text about being certain they were diabolical because of a hand signal made during the promotion for the "Yellow Submarine" animated film, which is like saying the Hopis were like Nazis because they both used the swastika, or that a symbol can
    only have one meaning by however appropriates it - a link to the raw footage from the 11 August 1966 Chicago press conference was provided, without receiving any comment on what the group members actually said when the critical subject of Christianity
    unambiguously emerged. People will generally believe what they want, and utterly disregard what creates cognitive dissonance for them.

    When the known history is integrated with the esoteric facets of the group story, what emerges is neither common knowledge nor easily anticipated: the hysteria-inducing effect of the subliminal psychological transference characterized their
    touring years as a cultural phenomenon, while having little to do with the various productions being planned for recordings; reconstructing the famous episodes with some insight puts a judicial mirror up to contemporary society more than the band, who
    instead exhibit sardonically clever auditory ideas being manifested for an oblivious world, constantly reminding itself that something vaguely monumental was happening, without understanding its profound implications.

    The Beatles eventually won the battle over style: their early rhythm-and-blues approach was racially provocative; baroque and symphonic leanings in the middle presented neo-Classical legitimacy; in their late group phase an unassuming purity
    emerged, so the Sunday Church feeling for "Let It Be" seemed completely genuine. The same elder who scoffed scornfully at their debut on the Ed Sullivan show would express a spiritual devotion to the McCartney tune "Mull Of Kintyre," without consciously
    realizing what the bagpipe sequence might have been conveying. The struggle to delve into their substance remains unfulfilled, since they themselves would not lead into that uncharted territory, merely asserting there were plenty of things yet
    unconsidered.

    The process outlined of Christian regression appears subliminally expressed in their debut album cover of "Baby It's You," where the repeated backing vocal accusation "Cheat! Cheat!" could be applied to Jesus being said to have 'cheated Death.'
    The scatted "Sha-La-La"s appear in two forms: the longer version suggests,

    'Shall I Write
    Another
    LAW?'

    Ending this repetition with the truncated variation implies more simply,

    'Shall I Write A Law?'

    The instrumental solo there, with heavy electric guitar augmented by George Martin note-matching on the brighter-sounding celeste (whose name connotes 'heavenly'), an achievement while limited to twin-track mono, could have given away the entire
    agenda, in part explaining,

    'Start With The Ending:
    His Ascension -
    To Heaven...'


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    It is as if the Cylindrical Vessel has been tipped back, so it can be observed in that innocuous orientation in contrast with the prior state of Venus being engulfed at the Nadir as the corner to receive the overflowing contents: it
    is amazing how quickly this subsequent configuration appears from the 19 January 2023 prodigy in Geneva charts, with only the Vertex in common among the dual participants.

    This 'Cup-Withdrawn' impression of the Fury relenting, or celestial declaration of its having been administered, appeared visually in the animated charts around 11:07 am CET; the trine of the Ascendant with Lilith degraded around 11:
    23 am CET, and the Lilith-Vertex sextile disintegrated before 11:30 am CET.

    The Venusian lunar conjunct on 23 January 2023 11:15 am CET in Garabandal should mark the time when the Miracle placed there esoterically on 31 May 2021 8:30 pm local time would become visible, if the purifying Warning event occurs
    from the Venusian-Nadir onset time in Geneva from 19 January 2023 2:12 am CET.

    The January 23 date could be Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso (VIII.34), or alternately the Rhodes of V.16 (via Saints Clement and Agathangelos) where an enduring Phantom manifests. So this otherworldly Sign foretold from The Beatles'
    Hamburg era is another facet of the impending cataclysm; the temporal synchronization of the Brasilia copy-cat coup attempt with the Mercury solar conjunction of 7 January 2023 is potentially a late-stage signal the scenario outlined is nearing its
    inevitable fulfillment.

    The mysterious Miracle, which can only be perceived after the unsettling collective Life-Review of The Preparation, should first be witnessed from

    << 23 January 2023 11:15 am CET / 5:15 am EST / 2:15 am PST >>

    Cause aviendra bien stupende et mirande
    Bien peu apres la terre tremblera

    Something quite stupendous and miraculous will arrive
    Very shortly after the world will have trembled

    [I.46]
    The 15 January 2023 crash of the twin-engine ATR 72 aircraft into the Seti Gorge of Nepal, spinning out of control, going into a nosedive and breaking apart, with at least 68 aboard dead, has manifested as the Lyons event of various
    quatrains, which is a late-stage precursor to the now-imminent major cataclysm. The date corresponds with the feast for Saint Bonitus (623-706), who was made governor of Marseilles, and died in Lyons after a pilgrimage to Rome - the related quatrains
    appear to include I.72, II.83, III.79, VIII.34, IX.68, IX.69, IX.70, X.58, and X.88.

    Du tout Marseille des habitants changee
    Course et poursuite jusqu'aupres de Lyon

    Changed for all the inhabitants of Marseilles
    Flight and pursuit followed towards Lyons

    In I.72 Bonitus being appointed governor of Marseilles is suggested as in identifying fact; the word 'course' has been translated as 'flight' from Leoni's publication circa 1960, without intending to correlate with any airplane incident.
    Bonitus dying in Lyons is another factor establishing his feast day as fateful.

    The case in II.83 is more dubious, speaking of 'heavy traffic changed' at Lyons; the second portion seems to concern the Geneva catastrophe, with the Jura mountain range and 'Swiss drizzle,' with pillage by soldiers reminiscent of IX.68,
    where Lyons is invoked as the juncture of the Rhone and Saone rivers, where evil occurs. Line 3 of III.79 has the chain broken at the port of Marseilles. The mention of Lyons in VIII.34 is isolated, inferring its details are included elsewhere.

    Outre Lyon, Vien eux si grande grele

    Beyond Lyons, great hail upon them at Vienne

    The sequence in line 3 of IX.69 has the Lyons date preceding the Apocalyptic hail shortly following at Vienne: making 15 January Lyons via Saint Bonitus renders the 22 January date as Vienne via Saint Paschasius. The physical violence
    of the disaster appears linked with Vienne in line 3 of IX.70 -

    Ceux de Vienne seront trestous haches
    Those of Vienne will all be hacked apart

    The second half of X.58 features the Marseilles hint again:

    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Tenter Phossens au Ponant entretien

    Gaul to be shaken, to imperil the Bark
    Marseilles to be tried at the Western entreaty

    Gaul is now being presumed for 21 January 2023 via Saint Patroclus of Troyes; the Bark of Saint Peter is the Roman Catholic papacy. The Western entreaty implies some new effort to peacefully resolve the Russian invasion of Ukraine
    ongoing conflict, close to 15 January 2023.

    There seems to be a double prophecy in X.88, where the first half concerned the EgyptAir 990 crash of 31 October 1999, which also involved an aircraft broken in half (as 'Foot and Horse'), taking off from New York City yet destined to
    crash in the ocean nearby ('They will make an entry into the sea devastating all'), giving the correct time of day as 'the second watch.' Notice the phrasing of line 3 -

    Dedans le poil entrera de Marseille

    The word 'poil' should mean hair, or 'bristle' - 'Seti' (the name of the Nepalese Gorge) in Latin also transliterates into 'bristle': so the French seer has acknowledged the unfortunate ultimate destination of Seti Gorge for the flight
    on the 15 January 2023 Marseilles date.

    The final line of X.88 could regard the major cataclysm that shortly follows the crash into Seti Gorge -

    Pleurs, cris, et sang, onc nul temps si amer

    Tears, cries, and blood - never were times so bitter

    There is ambiguity whether the subject was still the plane disaster.

    *

    Trying to explain The Beatles' success as some evil aberration that had to involve some bargain with dark forces is a desperate and ignorant attempt to evade the true challenge posed by Jesus, which was to recognize the time of angelic
    visitation, and perceive what was being offered on a subliminal level, so that the Remembrance of Him could be the springboard to Salvation. As reiterated from Isaiah, merely seeing and hearing in the normal mode is an inadequate approach to attain the
    insights that would affect the required spiritual conversion.

    The Beatles returning from Hamburg received an unexpected reaction because the British crowds thought they were German, with the new sound developed from onstage performances. The screaming began later in Glasgow, but became the normal
    reaction at their concerts without any deliberate direction. From various interviews the group members conveyed a sense of hypocrisy in religious institutions, so that reprocessing the message of Christianity into a sound format could have been their
    test for society.

    The extraordinary popularity they enjoyed was met by McCartney-Lennon proclaiming they had discovered the 'formula' for writing hit songs, without elaborating that fans were likely to be experiencing transference, the subconscious
    messages inducing confusion between the story of Jesus, and the Foursome all attempting to retell it while projecting themselves as aspiring to be Christ-like. That is likely why there was no single 'Horseman' selected to represent Jesus riding into
    Jerusalem in the "Penny Lane" promotional film: all Four wanted to assume the Messianic role simultaneously, asserting their Faith collectively without self-explanatory fanfare.
    Numerous Lyons references could be applied to the recent plane crash in Nepal: IX.68 commences three consecutive related quatrains, as the first report of retrieved bodies was 68, with a 69th found in Seti River Monday evening, then the
    70th at the crash site early Tuesday, before the final accounting was made to 72. There is an interesting transliteration in X.88 of 'poil' meaning 'bristle' (like hair) with Seti, which in Latin means 'bristle.'

    The 15 January 2023 Nepal plane crash being a Lyons event, as precursor for the cataclysm presumed for the 22 January 2023 Vienne date, skips over the 19 January 2023 case for Venus at the Nadir in Geneva. The 'Ulm' of VIII.34 being
    solved for the honoring of Blessed Henry Suso on 23 January is nearly conclusive, with a mention of Lyons preceding to reinforce the sequencing. About a week beyond Lyons is Vienne-Ulm. A new Rhodes date for V.16 would be 12 February 2023, for Venerable
    Meletios of Ypseni.

    The recent Juno Reign could still be the conditions for X.17, despite a subsequent Lilith Reign being terminated by the solar advance into Aquarius - a new Lilith Reign commences 21 January 2023 8:51 pm CET, which will end more than two
    weeks later when Vesta enters Aries 8 February 2023 5:44 am CET. No longer searching for the circumstances that have been previously observed (such as Corinth-Ephesus correlations from 2 November 2022 and 10 January 2023), the parameters have neatly
    narrowed, with some lines taken for real-world predictions rather than hints for the judicial astrology. So certain lines should be reapplied, with their placement in the jigsaw Time Puzzle becoming clearer towards the catastrophic onset.

    The New Moon occurs at 1 degree 32 minutes Aquarius 21 January 2023 9:53 pm CET, presenting the Sun and Moon together for the V.66 prelude to the 'glittering metals' incident.

    Venus at the Nadir for Geneva 22 January 2023 2:15 am CET has a chart with Pluto, the Sun and the Moon as a nearly equidistant grouping, without a definitively ominous appearance.

    A major transition occurs with the Venus-Saturn conjunct at 24 degrees 47 minutes Aquarius 22 January 2023 11:05 pm CET, since the celestial bodies become transposed: the next day, Saturn will reach the Nadir slightly ahead of Venus.

    Saturn at the Nadir for Geneva 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET is at the fulcrum point (24 degrees 48 minutes Aquarius) of an Inverted Grand Trine with conceptual points Fortune (25 degrees 36 minutes Libra) and the Vertex (21 degrees 58
    minutes Gemini). This 'Balance' impression also appears to be the Apocalyptic Cup or Urn, tipping towards the left as the Midheaven is skewed, forming the Crest of a Pediment with Fortune and the Vertex. In this way Venus very near Saturn is both debased
    at the Nadir (a minute later at 2:16 am CET), and perceived as receiving the Saturnin Cup.

    The critical time would be -

    << 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET / 22 January 2023 8:15 pm EST / 5:15 pm PST >>

    The Grand Trine and Pediment together present a Kite configuration, tipping leftward at the top; the fateful observation with Venus at the Nadir 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET had the Sun-Lilith-Neptune Inverted Grand Trine tipped towards
    the right at the top. In the 23 January 2023 case, a cylindrical form overlaps the Grand Trine, however it is broken: Ascendant (12.5 degrees Scorpio) sextile Mercury (9 degrees 23 minutes Capricorn) is somewhat weak; Mercury trine the Node (9 degrees 2
    minutes Taurus) is strong; the Node is about six degrees from Ouranos (near 15 degrees Taurus), which is in a sextile aspect with Pallas (13 degrees 46 minutes Cancer); and Pallas is in a trine with the Ascendant - however the rectangular pattern being
    broken renders the form technically inconsequential.

    The 'Vesta sepulchral fire' phrasing from X.6 should regard its conjoining with Neptune 23 January 2023 8:11 pm CET - when Vesta and Neptune meet at 23 degrees 21 minutes Pisces, a clear rectangular form appears aligned horizontally in
    parallel with the Ecliptic: Fortune (7 degrees 37 minutes Leo) sextile Ceres (6 degrees 32 minutes Libra) trine the Vertex (in solar proximity at 5 degrees 7 minutes Aquarius), whose conceptual point is in a sextile aspect with the pairing of Juno-
    Jupiter (4.5 to 5 degrees Aries), which is roughly in a trine with the Part of Fortune to complete the rectangular form. The Moon and Saturn-Venus will then be slightly below the Descendant.

    This horizontal Box suggests the rectangles previously observed were leading towards this coffin-like manifestation coinciding with the Vesta-Neptune conjunct, rather than representing 'Cylindrical Vessels.' The chronology of IV.58
    implies the 18 December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine as the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' and the Trinity concept being subverted for divine retribution via a particular Grand Trine was a hidden theme from V.18.

    Some January hagiological associations already made could be seen as valid in retrospect: 16 January as Lorraine via Saint Honoratus of Arles; the 19th as Lombardy via Saint Bassian - and Smyrna-Myrrh through Saint Germanicus for the Magi
    Gift Attack theme; the 21st as Gaul via Saint Patroclus; the 22nd as Vienne with Saint Paschasius; the 23rd as Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso.

    For 24 January, Saint Francis de Sales had a connection to Geneva.

    The Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 remains a mystery, possibly spotlighting Saint Paula for 26 January 2023 - born in Rome 347, and died in Bethlehem 404, she is the patroness of widows.

    Saint Thomas Aquinas with the 28 January feast could be inferred as a Toulouse date: he died 7 March 1274, but since that date fell within Lent the calendar was revised in 1969, using the 28 January 1369 date of his remains being placed
    in the Church of Jacobins, Toulouse; from 1789 to 1974 his remains were placed in the Basilique de Sant-Sernin, also in Toulouse, before being returned to the Church of Jacobins.

    The reference to Basil the Great in VI.78 has a potential tandem solution with V.83, the ecumenical rivalry with Saints John Chrysostom and Gregory the Theologian over which was greatest culminating in the 5 October 1084 dream of Saint
    John Mauropous whereby their spiritual solidarity was basis for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs instituted for 30 January, depicted by an iconic image with the three Church figures standing together, each reverently holding a Bible - 'the greatest at
    the table' recalled the divisive rivalry which had an esoteric solution. Because VI.78 presents the 30 January 2023 date as marking initial stages of a mass conversion, while V.83 has it instead as a confirmation point after three nights to warn of an
    unparalleled nation being subverted through fraud, the date is probably used as a dual-purpose aftermath checkpoint.

    Taking 12 February 2023 as the date when the Garabandal Miracle will first be witnessed leads to two timing theories: the only lunar conjunct that day is with the South Node (i.e., Tail of the Dragon) at 10:28 am CET; the placement of The
    Miracle was presumed for 13 May 2021 8:30 pm locally, coinciding with a Mercury lunar conjunct - if that evening timing is consistent, it suggests the 8:31 pm CET Sun-Vertex union, with Mars reaching Midheaven.

    *

    "When two greats saints meet,
    It is a humbling experience"
    The 23 January 2023 conjoining of Vesta and Neptune is their first union since their opposition during the 6 January 2021 Capitol insurrection.

    The lunar opposition-conjunction with the Vesta-Neptune opposition on 4 January 2021 was projected as the time for the enormous violence of X.61 at 'pike and fire'; also a schedule was developed demonstrating the long cycle for reigning of
    Saturn after its conjunction with Jupiter at the 2020 Winter Solstice until Mars entered a new sign on 6 January 2021, not realizing when calculated prior how closely that Mars Reign commencement would be synchronized with the arrival of the National
    Guard to quell the riot.

    Planetary reigning is an elusive concept, that tantalized the generation circa 1999 attempting to fathom X.72 while rejecting the requisite tools: 'Mars to reign beneficially, before and after' - but the in-between case, the Mars entry into
    Capricorn 8 September 2001, delayed by retrograde since the previous instance fell on Valentine's Day 2001, initiated the period for the 9-11 attacks (and the subsequent Mars progression coincided with passage of the defensive Patriot Act).

    Obviously if a corollary to the Vesta-Neptune opposition were sought, the 23 January 2023 timing for their union would be ideal.

    Also Saturn appears featured in a different role than the reigning for the two revolts of I.54, with a conceptual Grand Trine at the Geneva Nadir, seeming to provide the igniting spark that is immediately transferred to debase Venus
    following at the Nadir with the engulfing conflagration. The Saturnin Grand Trine is oriented in mirror-image mockery of the Venus at Nadir chart 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, considered the 'Under The Balance' reference from V.42, skewed Left instead
    of Right to about the same angle.

    Thus those who had been included 'Under The Balance' could mean the Republican House majority being decided at the equivalent time of 16 November 2022 6:47 pm EST - 'The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid - By those whom Eagal
    observed included while Under The Balance': there is no compliant interpretation involving celestial bodies positioned at the Nadir then beyond Venus, such as Mercury. It does not seem purely political, since the great fear resembles the cataclysmic
    terror, yet the extreme faction could attempt to essentially extort massive cuts to entitlement programs, presumably to support further massive tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers, using the occasion of the necessary raising of the debt limit to
    endorse national solvency in contrast to default status.

    In this sense the 19 January 2023 date for Lombardy via Saint Bassian coincides with a preliminary date for this debt limit conflict, where the Republican House might have no members relenting, while the Democrats attempt to hold strong, a
    tactic that the Speaker found untenable. Paying for national debts already incurred becomes a bargaining point for those lacking real concern for the fate of the global economy, since even publicly questioning this obligation can have serve financial
    repercussions.

    There is a House member who said his mother died during the 9-11 attacks, while she applied for a visa in 2003 declaring not having been in the US since 1999. A New Mexico case involves a candidate accused on contesting his landslide loss
    by arranging sniper attacks on the homes of officials who would not agree to overturn the results in his favor. For some winning is not the main thing but the only thing, and the thirst for power to abuse can only perhaps be quenched by a full-fledged
    authoritarian nightmare.

    The Beatles created an aesthetic dream that regressed into the remembrance of Christ's Ministry for the "Penny Lane" triumphal entry into Jerusalem phase, however a forward tangent simultaneously rendered it an afterlife experience,
    haunting the beloved childhood place recently cleansed by rain; the images for the single sleeve featured pictures from their four respective infancies, so it was including George and Ringo with John and Paul in the single concept. Proper sequencing for
    the Christian story would put the associated Sgt Pepper album after "Strawberry Fields Forever," and before "Penny Lane."
    It should not be forgotten that double A-sided single with "Penny Lane" only reached the number two spot in the charts, indicating a let-down in popularity. Dick Clark showed a group of teenagers the two promotional films, to lukewarm
    reaction. The young fans did not care much about McCartney's scooter accident leading to the moustache decision, their new personas appeared off-brand and unfamiliar. While George Martin thought "Strawberry Fields Forever" was a fantastic new direction,
    a sort of mini-symphonic creation, the at-times lethargically slowed vocal and avant-garde treatment was received as kind of a weird departure.

    Interrogating the composers towards their divulging their intentions overtly is something they would likely deliberately avoid. To do so with subliminal melodic phrases would be an admission this method of communication actually failed,
    requiring the composer to detail the note-syllable conversion, ostensibly since it was done so badly no one could ever hear it as such without having it explicitly explained. Someone else having figured out the process for themselves would probably not
    be convincing to those feeling only the original source could be trusted, rather than their own ears and intellect. A close analogy would be a magician determined to keep his tricks secret, although in this case the listener is typically unaware there
    even has been any sort of trick played upon the subconscious.

    In the horn and trumpet portions of "Penny Lane" three synonymous terms are cleverly suggested at various points: 'vendors,' 'merchants,' and 'money-changers.'

    Providing the verbal phrases that correspond with the musical performances should eliminate doubt through the self-confirming authenticity of the experience itself, however accomplishing that for each tune is a major undertaking, and bringing
    up each case to be ignorantly dismissed would not achieve cultural enlightenment.

    As for another misunderstood esoteric source, the French seer's illumination of Revelation could have us very near a cataclysm of unprecedented proportions.

    Saturnin Interval Curtailed By Venus At Ulm With Impending Vestal Union [23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST]

    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi hammer attack; the Seoul Halloween crowd crush; the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting;
    the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange; the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt; the Brazilian copycat insurrection synchronized with the Mercury solar conjunct as predicted; and the plane crash
    in Nepal into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated, with a Marseilles hint for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast.

    The 23 January 2023 date corresponds with Ulm of VIII.34 for Blessed Henry Suso, when Saturn will have a very brief post-lunar-conjunct interval, curtailed by Venus: this is a potential debasement scenario, with a Saturnin event possibly
    occurring prior to the Moon meeting Venus.

    For Geneva, using CET on 23 January 2023:

    10:24 am - Saturn lunar conjunct at 24 degrees 50 minutes Aquarius;

    10:33 am - Fortune sextile Venus at 25 degrees 22 minutes - at this point a rectangle is again evident, which for cataclysmic onset would esoterically be the Cup or Cylindrical Vessel Urn, however in the chart it is oriented at a downward
    angle, beneath the Venus-Moon-Saturn grouping.

    Provincial physical notions of a drinking vessel may not apply: simply having the formation significantly placed for Venus could plausibly be the ancient prophetic intention. The rectangular image is composed with the Sun (3 degrees 5 minutes
    Aquarius), sextile the East Point (2 degrees Aries), trine Lilith (1 degree 39 minutes Leo), sextile the Vertex (1 degree 25 minutes Libra), trine the Sun to complete the form.

    11:19 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 25 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius - the horrific explosive event should have already occurred before this aspect transpires, so that the Saturnins could have endured the worst (V.24).

    A horizontally-oriented rectangular formation appears when Vesta and Neptune conjoin at 8:11 pm, with different composition: Fortune (7 minutes 37 degrees Leo), sextile Ceres (6 minutes 32 degrees Libra), trine Vertex (5 minutes 7 degrees
    Aquarius), sextile Juno-Jupiter (4 to 4.5 degrees Aries), trine Fortune to complete the form. This should be the time of the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6, although not necessarily its igniting moment.

    Both of the Corinth-Ephesus lines could be interpreted as simultaneously activated, since the Moon will be perplexity with Saturn and Venus in Aquarius, while Neptune is approaching its union with Vesta in Pisces, the other astrological 'sea.'


    The critical time for the test of the curtailed Saturnin lunar interval theory is when Venus has its Fortune aspect -

    << 23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST / 1:33 am PST >>
    The 30 January 2023 date is likely an aftermath, given the context of V.83 and VI.78 for Basil the Great reclaimed through the Three Holy Hierarchs: the 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET Ouranos lunar conjunct could relate to the second part of VI.70,
    with the Moon 'surpassing the Heavens.'

    The critical time now seems to be the Neptune lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 8:43 am CET progressing towards the Vesta lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 9:42 am CET: during that interval of nearly an hour, Saturn will rise at the Ascendant (9:04
    am CET), followed by Venus (9:11 am CET).

    This timing provides another Corinth-Ephesus in perplexity (III.3) opportunity, after the Neptune lunar conjunct, with the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6 possibly manifesting by its subsequent lunar union.

    There is an imperfect Rectangular Form when Venus is at the Ascendant: East Point (11 degrees 18 minutes Pisces), sextile Mercury (10 degrees 49 minutes Capricorn), trine the Vertex (16 degrees 44 minutes Virgo - this outlier distorts the
    pattern), sextile Pallas (13 degrees 11 minutes Cancer), trine the East Point to complete the form.

    More ideal Rectangular Forms appear around 5:30 am CET during this cycle, involving the Sun, Juno, Ceres and the Vertex - however Venus does not seem significantly engaged at that time of day.

    There is a brief reign for Venus 27 January 2023 3:33 am CET to 28 January 2023 11:35 pm CET; Venus reaches the Geneva Nadir as Queen 28 January 2023 2:20 am CET, with the Moon then between Chiron and Ouranos. Despite an oblong box-like
    configuration (with Ceres, East Point, Jupiter and Mars) and an inexact solar Grand Trine (using the weak Ceres-Mars trine line), it does not appear ominous compared to the 25 January 2023 9:11 am CET (3:11 am EST / 12:11 am PST) situation, because
    Saturn and Vesta are not effectively participating.

    There is a Mars solar trine coinciding with Venus at the Nadir 30 January 2023 2:20 am CET; Ceres appears to extend the trine into a Grand version, although it is about three degrees off their correspondence. A rectangular form is there, yet
    the Moon is beyond Ouranos headed for Mars, which is not indicated for this forecast. The most recent precursor that can be clearly established was the Nepal plane crash with the 15 January Lyons feast for Saint Bonitus synchronization. Taking Vienne for
    22 January and Ulm for the 23rd could provide insight into further events prior to the major world-changing double cataclysm, which still appears imminent.
    The prophetic conundrum of the Cup filled with Divine Fury being given to Venus as Mystery Babylon could be solved by acknowledging a protracted Solar Grand Trine with Mars and Ceres noticeable over several days in late January 2023.

    The Great Urn of X.50 appears to be Solar Grand Trine with Ceres and Mars that will be of sustained duration, like the instance circa 16 November 2022 - that sort of triangular Cup configuration should also be a potential Mobile Sign for I.54,
    rotating over time in the chart orientation.

    Thus despite its technical imperfection, the persistence of the Triangular Form throughout the time of the cataclysmic disruption is the relevant factor.

    The first establishing milestone for this Urn is the Ceres solar trine at 6 degrees 45 minutes (in Libra for Ceres, Aquarius for the Sun) 27 January 2023 around 1 am CET.

    The second foundational aspect is the Mars solar trine at 9 degrees 52 minutes (with Mars in Gemini) 30 January 2023 at 2:19 am CET; Ceres then will be at 6 degrees 53 minutes Libra.


    Lennon had forecast the break-up of the group years before it happened, explaining they simply could not keep the franchise going by thinking up new things
    Re: Lennon predicting the Beatles' breakup, I believe you, but can I see the quote?
    One such comment from John Lennon is accessible (without providing source or date, although likely late 1964) at -

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1980/12/14/the-lennon-legend/d3edf3e6-cfa5-405f-bf08-3880c853d509/

    "We're not going to fizzle out in half a day. But afterwards I'm not going to change into a tap-dancing musical. I'll just develop what I'm doing at the moment.

    This isn't show business.

    This is different from anything that anybody imagines.

    You don't go on from this.

    You do this, and then you finish."

    The other remark about not being able to continue after a certain point is more obscure. In the Fly On The Wall audio excerpt Lennon was overheard discussing how God is the gimmick in their music, an impression that was masterfully fostered through
    the recordings.

    George Martin scored "Yesterday" to McCartney's specifications, although disliking a certain note he perceived as groaning. Later Martin expressed disappointment that due to his being busy, Paul turned to Mike Leander instead for scoring "She's
    Leaving Home." Martin performed the middle instrumental for "In My Life" at half-speed while the group was on a break, but he knew what they wanted by that point.

    Saturnins To Herald Queen Venus With Solar Grand Trine Cup
    [27 January 2023 9:08 am CET / 3:08 am EST / 12:08 am PST]


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    It is as if the Cylindrical Vessel has been tipped back, so it can be observed in that innocuous orientation in contrast with the prior state of Venus being engulfed at the Nadir as the corner to receive the overflowing contents: it
    is amazing how quickly this subsequent configuration appears from the 19 January 2023 prodigy in Geneva charts, with only the Vertex in common among the dual participants.

    This 'Cup-Withdrawn' impression of the Fury relenting, or celestial declaration of its having been administered, appeared visually in the animated charts around 11:07 am CET; the trine of the Ascendant with Lilith degraded around 11:
    23 am CET, and the Lilith-Vertex sextile disintegrated before 11:30 am CET.

    The Venusian lunar conjunct on 23 January 2023 11:15 am CET in Garabandal should mark the time when the Miracle placed there esoterically on 31 May 2021 8:30 pm local time would become visible, if the purifying Warning event occurs
    from the Venusian-Nadir onset time in Geneva from 19 January 2023 2:12 am CET.

    The January 23 date could be Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso (VIII.34), or alternately the Rhodes of V.16 (via Saints Clement and Agathangelos) where an enduring Phantom manifests. So this otherworldly Sign foretold from The Beatles'
    Hamburg era is another facet of the impending cataclysm; the temporal synchronization of the Brasilia copy-cat coup attempt with the Mercury solar conjunction of 7 January 2023 is potentially a late-stage signal the scenario outlined is nearing its
    inevitable fulfillment.

    The mysterious Miracle, which can only be perceived after the unsettling collective Life-Review of The Preparation, should first be witnessed from

    << 23 January 2023 11:15 am CET / 5:15 am EST / 2:15 am PST >>

    Cause aviendra bien stupende et mirande
    Bien peu apres la terre tremblera

    Something quite stupendous and miraculous will arrive
    Very shortly after the world will have trembled

    [I.46]
    The 15 January 2023 crash of the twin-engine ATR 72 aircraft into the Seti Gorge of Nepal, spinning out of control, going into a nosedive and breaking apart, with at least 68 aboard dead, has manifested as the Lyons event of various
    quatrains, which is a late-stage precursor to the now-imminent major cataclysm. The date corresponds with the feast for Saint Bonitus (623-706), who was made governor of Marseilles, and died in Lyons after a pilgrimage to Rome - the related quatrains
    appear to include I.72, II.83, III.79, VIII.34, IX.68, IX.69, IX.70, X.58, and X.88.

    Du tout Marseille des habitants changee
    Course et poursuite jusqu'aupres de Lyon

    Changed for all the inhabitants of Marseilles
    Flight and pursuit followed towards Lyons

    In I.72 Bonitus being appointed governor of Marseilles is suggested as in identifying fact; the word 'course' has been translated as 'flight' from Leoni's publication circa 1960, without intending to correlate with any airplane incident.
    Bonitus dying in Lyons is another factor establishing his feast day as fateful.

    The case in II.83 is more dubious, speaking of 'heavy traffic changed' at Lyons; the second portion seems to concern the Geneva catastrophe, with the Jura mountain range and 'Swiss drizzle,' with pillage by soldiers reminiscent of IX.68,
    where Lyons is invoked as the juncture of the Rhone and Saone rivers, where evil occurs. Line 3 of III.79 has the chain broken at the port of Marseilles. The mention of Lyons in VIII.34 is isolated, inferring its details are included elsewhere.

    Outre Lyon, Vien eux si grande grele

    Beyond Lyons, great hail upon them at Vienne

    The sequence in line 3 of IX.69 has the Lyons date preceding the Apocalyptic hail shortly following at Vienne: making 15 January Lyons via Saint Bonitus renders the 22 January date as Vienne via Saint Paschasius. The physical violence
    of the disaster appears linked with Vienne in line 3 of IX.70 -

    Ceux de Vienne seront trestous haches
    Those of Vienne will all be hacked apart

    The second half of X.58 features the Marseilles hint again:

    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Tenter Phossens au Ponant entretien

    Gaul to be shaken, to imperil the Bark
    Marseilles to be tried at the Western entreaty

    Gaul is now being presumed for 21 January 2023 via Saint Patroclus of Troyes; the Bark of Saint Peter is the Roman Catholic papacy. The Western entreaty implies some new effort to peacefully resolve the Russian invasion of Ukraine
    ongoing conflict, close to 15 January 2023.

    There seems to be a double prophecy in X.88, where the first half concerned the EgyptAir 990 crash of 31 October 1999, which also involved an aircraft broken in half (as 'Foot and Horse'), taking off from New York City yet destined to
    crash in the ocean nearby ('They will make an entry into the sea devastating all'), giving the correct time of day as 'the second watch.' Notice the phrasing of line 3 -

    Dedans le poil entrera de Marseille

    The word 'poil' should mean hair, or 'bristle' - 'Seti' (the name of the Nepalese Gorge) in Latin also transliterates into 'bristle': so the French seer has acknowledged the unfortunate ultimate destination of Seti Gorge for the flight
    on the 15 January 2023 Marseilles date.

    The final line of X.88 could regard the major cataclysm that shortly follows the crash into Seti Gorge -

    Pleurs, cris, et sang, onc nul temps si amer

    Tears, cries, and blood - never were times so bitter

    There is ambiguity whether the subject was still the plane disaster.

    *

    Trying to explain The Beatles' success as some evil aberration that had to involve some bargain with dark forces is a desperate and ignorant attempt to evade the true challenge posed by Jesus, which was to recognize the time of angelic
    visitation, and perceive what was being offered on a subliminal level, so that the Remembrance of Him could be the springboard to Salvation. As reiterated from Isaiah, merely seeing and hearing in the normal mode is an inadequate approach to attain the
    insights that would affect the required spiritual conversion.

    The Beatles returning from Hamburg received an unexpected reaction because the British crowds thought they were German, with the new sound developed from onstage performances. The screaming began later in Glasgow, but became the normal
    reaction at their concerts without any deliberate direction. From various interviews the group members conveyed a sense of hypocrisy in religious institutions, so that reprocessing the message of Christianity into a sound format could have been their
    test for society.

    The extraordinary popularity they enjoyed was met by McCartney-Lennon proclaiming they had discovered the 'formula' for writing hit songs, without elaborating that fans were likely to be experiencing transference, the subconscious
    messages inducing confusion between the story of Jesus, and the Foursome all attempting to retell it while projecting themselves as aspiring to be Christ-like. That is likely why there was no single 'Horseman' selected to represent Jesus riding into
    Jerusalem in the "Penny Lane" promotional film: all Four wanted to assume the Messianic role simultaneously, asserting their Faith collectively without self-explanatory fanfare.
    Numerous Lyons references could be applied to the recent plane crash in Nepal: IX.68 commences three consecutive related quatrains, as the first report of retrieved bodies was 68, with a 69th found in Seti River Monday evening, then the
    70th at the crash site early Tuesday, before the final accounting was made to 72. There is an interesting transliteration in X.88 of 'poil' meaning 'bristle' (like hair) with Seti, which in Latin means 'bristle.'

    The 15 January 2023 Nepal plane crash being a Lyons event, as precursor for the cataclysm presumed for the 22 January 2023 Vienne date, skips over the 19 January 2023 case for Venus at the Nadir in Geneva. The 'Ulm' of VIII.34 being
    solved for the honoring of Blessed Henry Suso on 23 January is nearly conclusive, with a mention of Lyons preceding to reinforce the sequencing. About a week beyond Lyons is Vienne-Ulm. A new Rhodes date for V.16 would be 12 February 2023, for Venerable
    Meletios of Ypseni.

    The recent Juno Reign could still be the conditions for X.17, despite a subsequent Lilith Reign being terminated by the solar advance into Aquarius - a new Lilith Reign commences 21 January 2023 8:51 pm CET, which will end more than two
    weeks later when Vesta enters Aries 8 February 2023 5:44 am CET. No longer searching for the circumstances that have been previously observed (such as Corinth-Ephesus correlations from 2 November 2022 and 10 January 2023), the parameters have neatly
    narrowed, with some lines taken for real-world predictions rather than hints for the judicial astrology. So certain lines should be reapplied, with their placement in the jigsaw Time Puzzle becoming clearer towards the catastrophic onset.

    The New Moon occurs at 1 degree 32 minutes Aquarius 21 January 2023 9:53 pm CET, presenting the Sun and Moon together for the V.66 prelude to the 'glittering metals' incident.

    Venus at the Nadir for Geneva 22 January 2023 2:15 am CET has a chart with Pluto, the Sun and the Moon as a nearly equidistant grouping, without a definitively ominous appearance.

    A major transition occurs with the Venus-Saturn conjunct at 24 degrees 47 minutes Aquarius 22 January 2023 11:05 pm CET, since the celestial bodies become transposed: the next day, Saturn will reach the Nadir slightly ahead of Venus.

    Saturn at the Nadir for Geneva 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET is at the fulcrum point (24 degrees 48 minutes Aquarius) of an Inverted Grand Trine with conceptual points Fortune (25 degrees 36 minutes Libra) and the Vertex (21 degrees 58
    minutes Gemini). This 'Balance' impression also appears to be the Apocalyptic Cup or Urn, tipping towards the left as the Midheaven is skewed, forming the Crest of a Pediment with Fortune and the Vertex. In this way Venus very near Saturn is both debased
    at the Nadir (a minute later at 2:16 am CET), and perceived as receiving the Saturnin Cup.

    The critical time would be -

    << 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET / 22 January 2023 8:15 pm EST / 5:15 pm PST >>

    The Grand Trine and Pediment together present a Kite configuration, tipping leftward at the top; the fateful observation with Venus at the Nadir 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET had the Sun-Lilith-Neptune Inverted Grand Trine tipped towards
    the right at the top. In the 23 January 2023 case, a cylindrical form overlaps the Grand Trine, however it is broken: Ascendant (12.5 degrees Scorpio) sextile Mercury (9 degrees 23 minutes Capricorn) is somewhat weak; Mercury trine the Node (9 degrees 2
    minutes Taurus) is strong; the Node is about six degrees from Ouranos (near 15 degrees Taurus), which is in a sextile aspect with Pallas (13 degrees 46 minutes Cancer); and Pallas is in a trine with the Ascendant - however the rectangular pattern being
    broken renders the form technically inconsequential.

    The 'Vesta sepulchral fire' phrasing from X.6 should regard its conjoining with Neptune 23 January 2023 8:11 pm CET - when Vesta and Neptune meet at 23 degrees 21 minutes Pisces, a clear rectangular form appears aligned horizontally in
    parallel with the Ecliptic: Fortune (7 degrees 37 minutes Leo) sextile Ceres (6 degrees 32 minutes Libra) trine the Vertex (in solar proximity at 5 degrees 7 minutes Aquarius), whose conceptual point is in a sextile aspect with the pairing of Juno-
    Jupiter (4.5 to 5 degrees Aries), which is roughly in a trine with the Part of Fortune to complete the rectangular form. The Moon and Saturn-Venus will then be slightly below the Descendant.

    This horizontal Box suggests the rectangles previously observed were leading towards this coffin-like manifestation coinciding with the Vesta-Neptune conjunct, rather than representing 'Cylindrical Vessels.' The chronology of IV.58
    implies the 18 December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine as the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' and the Trinity concept being subverted for divine retribution via a particular Grand Trine was a hidden theme from V.18.

    Some January hagiological associations already made could be seen as valid in retrospect: 16 January as Lorraine via Saint Honoratus of Arles; the 19th as Lombardy via Saint Bassian - and Smyrna-Myrrh through Saint Germanicus for the Magi
    Gift Attack theme; the 21st as Gaul via Saint Patroclus; the 22nd as Vienne with Saint Paschasius; the 23rd as Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso.

    For 24 January, Saint Francis de Sales had a connection to Geneva.

    The Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 remains a mystery, possibly spotlighting Saint Paula for 26 January 2023 - born in Rome 347, and died in Bethlehem 404, she is the patroness of widows.

    Saint Thomas Aquinas with the 28 January feast could be inferred as a Toulouse date: he died 7 March 1274, but since that date fell within Lent the calendar was revised in 1969, using the 28 January 1369 date of his remains being placed
    in the Church of Jacobins, Toulouse; from 1789 to 1974 his remains were placed in the Basilique de Sant-Sernin, also in Toulouse, before being returned to the Church of Jacobins.

    The reference to Basil the Great in VI.78 has a potential tandem solution with V.83, the ecumenical rivalry with Saints John Chrysostom and Gregory the Theologian over which was greatest culminating in the 5 October 1084 dream of Saint
    John Mauropous whereby their spiritual solidarity was basis for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs instituted for 30 January, depicted by an iconic image with the three Church figures standing together, each reverently holding a Bible - 'the greatest at
    the table' recalled the divisive rivalry which had an esoteric solution. Because VI.78 presents the 30 January 2023 date as marking initial stages of a mass conversion, while V.83 has it instead as a confirmation point after three nights to warn of an
    unparalleled nation being subverted through fraud, the date is probably used as a dual-purpose aftermath checkpoint.

    Taking 12 February 2023 as the date when the Garabandal Miracle will first be witnessed leads to two timing theories: the only lunar conjunct that day is with the South Node (i.e., Tail of the Dragon) at 10:28 am CET; the placement of The
    Miracle was presumed for 13 May 2021 8:30 pm locally, coinciding with a Mercury lunar conjunct - if that evening timing is consistent, it suggests the 8:31 pm CET Sun-Vertex union, with Mars reaching Midheaven.

    *

    "When two greats saints meet,
    It is a humbling experience"
    The 23 January 2023 conjoining of Vesta and Neptune is their first union since their opposition during the 6 January 2021 Capitol insurrection.

    The lunar opposition-conjunction with the Vesta-Neptune opposition on 4 January 2021 was projected as the time for the enormous violence of X.61 at 'pike and fire'; also a schedule was developed demonstrating the long cycle for reigning of
    Saturn after its conjunction with Jupiter at the 2020 Winter Solstice until Mars entered a new sign on 6 January 2021, not realizing when calculated prior how closely that Mars Reign commencement would be synchronized with the arrival of the National
    Guard to quell the riot.

    Planetary reigning is an elusive concept, that tantalized the generation circa 1999 attempting to fathom X.72 while rejecting the requisite tools: 'Mars to reign beneficially, before and after' - but the in-between case, the Mars entry into
    Capricorn 8 September 2001, delayed by retrograde since the previous instance fell on Valentine's Day 2001, initiated the period for the 9-11 attacks (and the subsequent Mars progression coincided with passage of the defensive Patriot Act).

    Obviously if a corollary to the Vesta-Neptune opposition were sought, the 23 January 2023 timing for their union would be ideal.

    Also Saturn appears featured in a different role than the reigning for the two revolts of I.54, with a conceptual Grand Trine at the Geneva Nadir, seeming to provide the igniting spark that is immediately transferred to debase Venus
    following at the Nadir with the engulfing conflagration. The Saturnin Grand Trine is oriented in mirror-image mockery of the Venus at Nadir chart 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, considered the 'Under The Balance' reference from V.42, skewed Left instead
    of Right to about the same angle.

    Thus those who had been included 'Under The Balance' could mean the Republican House majority being decided at the equivalent time of 16 November 2022 6:47 pm EST - 'The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid - By those whom Eagal
    observed included while Under The Balance': there is no compliant interpretation involving celestial bodies positioned at the Nadir then beyond Venus, such as Mercury. It does not seem purely political, since the great fear resembles the cataclysmic
    terror, yet the extreme faction could attempt to essentially extort massive cuts to entitlement programs, presumably to support further massive tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers, using the occasion of the necessary raising of the debt limit to
    endorse national solvency in contrast to default status.

    In this sense the 19 January 2023 date for Lombardy via Saint Bassian coincides with a preliminary date for this debt limit conflict, where the Republican House might have no members relenting, while the Democrats attempt to hold strong, a
    tactic that the Speaker found untenable. Paying for national debts already incurred becomes a bargaining point for those lacking real concern for the fate of the global economy, since even publicly questioning this obligation can have serve financial
    repercussions.

    There is a House member who said his mother died during the 9-11 attacks, while she applied for a visa in 2003 declaring not having been in the US since 1999. A New Mexico case involves a candidate accused on contesting his landslide loss
    by arranging sniper attacks on the homes of officials who would not agree to overturn the results in his favor. For some winning is not the main thing but the only thing, and the thirst for power to abuse can only perhaps be quenched by a full-fledged
    authoritarian nightmare.

    The Beatles created an aesthetic dream that regressed into the remembrance of Christ's Ministry for the "Penny Lane" triumphal entry into Jerusalem phase, however a forward tangent simultaneously rendered it an afterlife experience,
    haunting the beloved childhood place recently cleansed by rain; the images for the single sleeve featured pictures from their four respective infancies, so it was including George and Ringo with John and Paul in the single concept. Proper sequencing for
    the Christian story would put the associated Sgt Pepper album after "Strawberry Fields Forever," and before "Penny Lane."
    It should not be forgotten that double A-sided single with "Penny Lane" only reached the number two spot in the charts, indicating a let-down in popularity. Dick Clark showed a group of teenagers the two promotional films, to lukewarm
    reaction. The young fans did not care much about McCartney's scooter accident leading to the moustache decision, their new personas appeared off-brand and unfamiliar. While George Martin thought "Strawberry Fields Forever" was a fantastic new direction,
    a sort of mini-symphonic creation, the at-times lethargically slowed vocal and avant-garde treatment was received as kind of a weird departure.

    Interrogating the composers towards their divulging their intentions overtly is something they would likely deliberately avoid. To do so with subliminal melodic phrases would be an admission this method of communication actually failed,
    requiring the composer to detail the note-syllable conversion, ostensibly since it was done so badly no one could ever hear it as such without having it explicitly explained. Someone else having figured out the process for themselves would probably not
    be convincing to those feeling only the original source could be trusted, rather than their own ears and intellect. A close analogy would be a magician determined to keep his tricks secret, although in this case the listener is typically unaware there
    even has been any sort of trick played upon the subconscious.

    In the horn and trumpet portions of "Penny Lane" three synonymous terms are cleverly suggested at various points: 'vendors,' 'merchants,' and 'money-changers.'

    Providing the verbal phrases that correspond with the musical performances should eliminate doubt through the self-confirming authenticity of the experience itself, however accomplishing that for each tune is a major undertaking, and bringing
    up each case to be ignorantly dismissed would not achieve cultural enlightenment.

    As for another misunderstood esoteric source, the French seer's illumination of Revelation could have us very near a cataclysm of unprecedented proportions.

    Saturnin Interval Curtailed By Venus At Ulm With Impending Vestal Union [23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST]

    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi hammer attack; the Seoul Halloween crowd crush; the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting;
    the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange; the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt; the Brazilian copycat insurrection synchronized with the Mercury solar conjunct as predicted; and the plane crash
    in Nepal into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated, with a Marseilles hint for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast.

    The 23 January 2023 date corresponds with Ulm of VIII.34 for Blessed Henry Suso, when Saturn will have a very brief post-lunar-conjunct interval, curtailed by Venus: this is a potential debasement scenario, with a Saturnin event possibly
    occurring prior to the Moon meeting Venus.

    For Geneva, using CET on 23 January 2023:

    10:24 am - Saturn lunar conjunct at 24 degrees 50 minutes Aquarius;

    10:33 am - Fortune sextile Venus at 25 degrees 22 minutes - at this point a rectangle is again evident, which for cataclysmic onset would esoterically be the Cup or Cylindrical Vessel Urn, however in the chart it is oriented at a downward
    angle, beneath the Venus-Moon-Saturn grouping.

    Provincial physical notions of a drinking vessel may not apply: simply having the formation significantly placed for Venus could plausibly be the ancient prophetic intention. The rectangular image is composed with the Sun (3 degrees 5 minutes
    Aquarius), sextile the East Point (2 degrees Aries), trine Lilith (1 degree 39 minutes Leo), sextile the Vertex (1 degree 25 minutes Libra), trine the Sun to complete the form.

    11:19 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 25 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius - the horrific explosive event should have already occurred before this aspect transpires, so that the Saturnins could have endured the worst (V.24).

    A horizontally-oriented rectangular formation appears when Vesta and Neptune conjoin at 8:11 pm, with different composition: Fortune (7 minutes 37 degrees Leo), sextile Ceres (6 minutes 32 degrees Libra), trine Vertex (5 minutes 7 degrees
    Aquarius), sextile Juno-Jupiter (4 to 4.5 degrees Aries), trine Fortune to complete the form. This should be the time of the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6, although not necessarily its igniting moment.

    Both of the Corinth-Ephesus lines could be interpreted as simultaneously activated, since the Moon will be perplexity with Saturn and Venus in Aquarius, while Neptune is approaching its union with Vesta in Pisces, the other astrological 'sea.'


    The critical time for the test of the curtailed Saturnin lunar interval theory is when Venus has its Fortune aspect -

    << 23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST / 1:33 am PST >>
    The 30 January 2023 date is likely an aftermath, given the context of V.83 and VI.78 for Basil the Great reclaimed through the Three Holy Hierarchs: the 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET Ouranos lunar conjunct could relate to the second part of VI.70,
    with the Moon 'surpassing the Heavens.'

    The critical time now seems to be the Neptune lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 8:43 am CET progressing towards the Vesta lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 9:42 am CET: during that interval of nearly an hour, Saturn will rise at the Ascendant (9:04
    am CET), followed by Venus (9:11 am CET).

    This timing provides another Corinth-Ephesus in perplexity (III.3) opportunity, after the Neptune lunar conjunct, with the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6 possibly manifesting by its subsequent lunar union.

    There is an imperfect Rectangular Form when Venus is at the Ascendant: East Point (11 degrees 18 minutes Pisces), sextile Mercury (10 degrees 49 minutes Capricorn), trine the Vertex (16 degrees 44 minutes Virgo - this outlier distorts the
    pattern), sextile Pallas (13 degrees 11 minutes Cancer), trine the East Point to complete the form.

    More ideal Rectangular Forms appear around 5:30 am CET during this cycle, involving the Sun, Juno, Ceres and the Vertex - however Venus does not seem significantly engaged at that time of day.

    There is a brief reign for Venus 27 January 2023 3:33 am CET to 28 January 2023 11:35 pm CET; Venus reaches the Geneva Nadir as Queen 28 January 2023 2:20 am CET, with the Moon then between Chiron and Ouranos. Despite an oblong box-like
    configuration (with Ceres, East Point, Jupiter and Mars) and an inexact solar Grand Trine (using the weak Ceres-Mars trine line), it does not appear ominous compared to the 25 January 2023 9:11 am CET (3:11 am EST / 12:11 am PST) situation, because
    Saturn and Vesta are not effectively participating.

    There is a Mars solar trine coinciding with Venus at the Nadir 30 January 2023 2:20 am CET; Ceres appears to extend the trine into a Grand version, although it is about three degrees off their correspondence. A rectangular form is there, yet
    the Moon is beyond Ouranos headed for Mars, which is not indicated for this forecast. The most recent precursor that can be clearly established was the Nepal plane crash with the 15 January Lyons feast for Saint Bonitus synchronization. Taking Vienne for
    22 January and Ulm for the 23rd could provide insight into further events prior to the major world-changing double cataclysm, which still appears imminent.
    The prophetic conundrum of the Cup filled with Divine Fury being given to Venus as Mystery Babylon could be solved by acknowledging a protracted Solar Grand Trine with Mars and Ceres noticeable over several days in late January 2023.

    The Great Urn of X.50 appears to be Solar Grand Trine with Ceres and Mars that will be of sustained duration, like the instance circa 16 November 2022 - that sort of triangular Cup configuration should also be a potential Mobile Sign for I.54,
    rotating over time in the chart orientation.

    Thus despite its technical imperfection, the persistence of the Triangular Form throughout the time of the cataclysmic disruption is the relevant factor.

    The first establishing milestone for this Urn is the Ceres solar trine at 6 degrees 45 minutes (in Libra for Ceres, Aquarius for the Sun) 27 January 2023 around 1 am CET.

    The second foundational aspect is the Mars solar trine at 9 degrees 52 minutes (with Mars in Gemini) 30 January 2023 at 2:19 am CET; Ceres then will be at 6 degrees 53 minutes Libra.


    Lennon had forecast the break-up of the group years before it happened, explaining they simply could not keep the franchise going by thinking up new things
    Re: Lennon predicting the Beatles' breakup, I believe you, but can I see the quote?
    One such comment from John Lennon is accessible (without providing source or date, although likely late 1964) at -

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1980/12/14/the-lennon-legend/d3edf3e6-cfa5-405f-bf08-3880c853d509/

    "We're not going to fizzle out in half a day. But afterwards I'm not going to change into a tap-dancing musical. I'll just develop what I'm doing at the moment.

    This isn't show business.

    This is different from anything that anybody imagines.

    You don't go on from this.

    You do this, and then you finish."

    The other remark about not being able to continue after a certain point is more obscure. In the Fly On The Wall audio excerpt Lennon was overheard discussing how God is the gimmick in their music, an impression that was masterfully fostered through
    the recordings.

    George Martin scored "Yesterday" to McCartney's specifications, although disliking a certain note he perceived as groaning. Later Martin expressed disappointment that due to his being busy, Paul turned to Mike Leander instead for scoring "She's
    Leaving Home." Martin performed the middle instrumental for "In My Life" at half-speed while the group was on a break, but he knew what they wanted by that point.

    Saturnins To Herald Queen Venus With Solar Grand Trine Cup
    [27 January 2023 9:08 am CET / 3:08 am EST / 12:08 am PST]


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    Holy icons 'trumped' by molten candle wax immersion - In abject terror frozen, no one will be seen to budge

    The third line confirms Theodora as the widow accompanying Virgin Mary (as Our Lady of Lourdes), by summarizing her life story as opponent of the destruction to holy imagery and relics of saints committed by the Iconoclasts. Use
    of the word 'trempes' for 'dipped' seems particularly well-chosen.
    The word 'rameaux' for 'branches' from VI.29 suggests plural extensions, however with such time-sensitive material a late-stage conjecture is required.

    The critical Geneva Grand Trine from 11 February 2023 appears to be at 2:53 pm CET [8:53 am EST / 5:53 am PST] - it arrives about 2.5 hours into the Mercurial Reign which commences 11 February 2023 12:23 pm CET (when Mercury enters
    Aquarius). Several Grand Trines for the day were observed, with one found compliant.

    During the triangular configuration, Venus in Pisces will be in a trine with the Ascendant in Cancer, both briefly at 19 degrees 12 minutes: this aspect complicating the simultaneous Saturnin Lunar Grand Trine with the East Point
    appears to be how Venus as Mystery Babylon is debased with the Cup of divine wrath emerging for Geneva (the East Point is locally calculated). The Venusian orientation beyond the Midheaven point thus appears inconsequential.
    The subject of religious icons would have become part of The Beatles' myth had they completed their vision for the Butcher photo sessions: in response to the British dismissal of John Lennon's religious views in the controversial
    Cleave interview article as projecting a "holier than thou" attitude, they planned a triptych with the shocking Butcher image as the centerpiece - the undone finishing touch was to be gilded haloes surrounding their heads. The mock reverence was said to
    convey that they saw themselves as merely flesh and blood, however it seemed to work on several levels, and since many found the image disturbing as a US album sleeve cover, that photo version was immediately recalled and pasted over with a more
    innocuous image.

    Continuing the projected timing of a cataclysm for which the recent quakes taking over 25,000 lives was a formidable precursor, the moment of a particular Grand Trine configuration was deduced to be the objective.

    The branches for Theodora as the saint widow suggests some day beyond 11 February; the High-Born from II.92 being Saint Richard of Lucca for the Gallic King of VIII.32 for 7 February merely puts the striking of the cataclysmic event
    past the date of the massively lethal sibling quakes at the Turkey-Syrian border on the 6th.

    The Cup-Bearer falsifying in VI.89 signifies a wrong date, as following the widow and Virgin clue to 11 February, rather than a choice between Grand Trines on a specific date.

    The V.18 phrase 'son Vitrix' interpreted for 'Sans-Vertex' infers by reverse corollary 'Vertex-Without,' a situation where the Vertex is occupied outside the Grand Trine pattern, rather than negatively asserting an inactive non-role.

    A Lombardy feast recurrence should coincide: Saint Juventius, bishop of Pavia, is honored on 12 February; and Blessed Jordan of Saxony was prior-provincial of the Order of Preachers in Lombardy circa 1221 - in 1237 Jordan during a
    pilgrimage to the Holy Land drowned in a shipwreck off the coast of Syria - he has a feast on 13 February.

    For Geneva on 13 February 2023 using CET:

    1 am - Mercury exceeds the locational value of Vesta, thus commencing a Vestal Reign to last until the Sun enters Pisces (18 February 2023 11:35 pm CET);

    3:49 pm - Neptune lunar trine - a possible condition for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3;

    5:01 pm - Solar-Lunar square aspect - recalling 'Sol et Lune' from V.66;

    5:53 pm - Dusk brings a maximum jump for Fortune (II.66), from the top of the chart to the lunar position at the bottom;

    6:07 pm - Saturn falling commences the Saturnin interval;

    6:39 to 6:48 pm - Grand Trine consisting of Lilith (4 degrees 3 minutes Leo), Vesta (2 degrees 26 minutes Aries), and the Part of Fortune (moving between both relative locations in Sagittarius, oriented at the bottom of the chart) -
    the fiery nature of Vesta and the Wind Succubus Lilith suggest this Chalice portends ill-Fortune;

    6:43 pm - Mercury conjoined by the Vertex, in rough opposition with Lilith, and Fortune sextile the Vertex - this extraneous Vertex activity outside the concurrent Grand Trine formation could satisfy V.18, for the critical time in the
    Saturnin interval -

    << 13 February 2023 6:43 pm CET / 12:43 pm EST / 9:43 am PST >>;

    8:19 pm - Venus falls at the Descendant, with Fortune at the Nadir;

    8:30 pm - Neptune falls;

    9:15 pm - Vesta at the Descendant in a rectangular formation with the Ascendant, Lilith and Mercury (Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6);

    9:52 pm - Saturn lunar square.

    The perplexity in this application would regard the Neptune lunar trine, rather than Neptune falling local to Geneva; the next lunar aspect with the Sun as a square would be the prevalent condition for the glittering metals event, as
    in V.66.

    Both the Saturnin interval upon local descent and the subsequent Saturn lunar square could be the subjects of different lines, with context clarifying some ambiguity.
    Post-Vertex Saturnin Chalice To Vex Paternal Amours {14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST}

    The August 1999 Izmit quake was an early major event conjectured prior to occurrence, although the location being named in V.54 as Bisance for Byzantium was not integrated substantively into the awareness of the Cassini spacecraft
    gravity assist engaging during the Earth-flyby (the quake preceding by 20.5 hours) through cross-referencing a set of quatrains. The line of totality for the August 1999 solar eclipse during a Fixed Grand Cross was the transpiercing King in V.54,
    crossing the Black Sea and leaving Byzantium bloody. Also the final line of V.86 depicted the quake as Byzantium crushed by the head of Persia.

    I could sense the sibling quakes of 6 February 2023, striking instead the Turkish border with Syria, as reflected in VI.82, 89, and II.92 line 3, would have a similar high death toll ultimately - and the same story of weakly designed
    structures has emerged. Rescue efforts could trigger avalanches of debris; miners were devising tunnels to assist those operations. The Turkish reference in IV.58 was for 7 December 2022 via hagiology, for timing of the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange. The
    Turkey-Syria border quakes comprise the first stage of the Nephew prophecy (via saintly nephews of Saint Patrick), for Blood, with the second Nephew stage through Fear emerging later.

    The first week of the year had the Speakership debacle foretold in the final line of II.92 using Saint Telemachus; the Mercury solar conjunct of 7 January 2023 attended the beating of Tyre Nichols for the Memphis incitement of X.79; the
    next day the Brasilia insurrection presented the flowering of Hercules' lies, and the people trapped from exiting the presidential palace from II.66. The Nepal plane crash on 15 January 2023 complied with the Lyons-Marseilles encoded event; the Half Moon
    Bay shooting was on the Ulm day of 23 January for Blessed Henry Suso as in VIII.34. Each quatrain case carries its own set of messages, with complex logical intersections.

    The Victor comparison between IV.95 and VI.70 recalls the Big Victor character played by Victor Mature in the 1968 group-ending film "Head" by The Monkees, when their television show had been cancelled, as an inside-joke mocking their
    RCA corporate taskmasters, continuing the extremely subtle pop culture theme that recently surfaced in the prophecies.

    https://www.neatorama.com/2012/02/16/head-the-monkees-strange-movie/

    The Magi Gift Attack theme for the cataclysmic onset in II.92 (fire color of Gold), V.16 (smoke like Frankincense), and VIII.34 (injury and tomb both calling for Myrrh) thus seems to co-exist for this apparent finale to the sequence.

    The 13 February 2023 2023 6:45 pm CET Grand Trine of Lilith-Vesta-Fortune was decidedly not 'Sans-Vertex' ('son vitrix') to satisfy the secret hint in V.18, since Mercury in opposition with triangle point Lilith was conspicuously
    conjoined by the Vertex: thus it could be the falsifying Cupbearer of VI.89, approaching the true Chalice of Divine Fury.

    The Vestal Reign will last until 18 February 2023, however the conditions for the descending celestial lineup being considered for Geneva will transition more quickly: as John Lennon explained of his famous group's demise, 'Wedding
    Bells are breaking up that old gang of mine.' First Venus and Neptune through their conjunction will effectively 'switch places' 15 February 2023 :30 pm CET; then the Sun will overtake Saturn 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET. These two changes alter the
    current compliance, as though backing the prophecy into a corner.

    A daily recurring Grand Trine involving the Midheaven point with Mercury and Ceres asserts itself on the evening of 14 February 2023, the Valentine's Day date corresponding with the 'fatherly amours' vexed in VI.89, on the final evening
    when the participants descending as V.65 suggests will have their ominous potential.

    For Geneva on 14 February 2023 using CET:

    5:55 pm - Dusk brings a jump of Fortune to about 26 degrees from the lunar position;

    6:04 pm - Saturn falling commences the fateful Saturnin interval;

    7:09 to 7:17 pm CET - Grand Trine of Mercury (4.5 degrees Aquarius) with Ceres (6.5 degrees Libra) and Midheaven (reaching 5.5 degrees Gemini 7:12 pm CET), the Vertex around 15 degrees Aquarius forms a weak trine with Mars in Gemini,
    and a weak sextile with Juno in Aries (so the Grand Trine does not seem significantly in an aspect with the Vertex), rendering the critical time -

    << 14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST / 10:12 am PST >>

    - while not yet overtaken by the skewed Nadir, the Moon then appears at the bottom of the chart;

    8:21 pm - Venus descends, presumably in the wake of the cataclysmic onset, thus being debased for X.28, with Fortune nearing the Moon;

    8:26 pm - Neptune at the Descendant simultaneous with the Part of Fortune reaching the Moon, thereby presenting the III.3 perplexity for Neptunian Corinth and lunar Ephesus;

    9:13 pm - Vesta reaching the Descendant is again in a rectangular formation with Mercury, Lilith, and the East Point, providing a visual fulfillment for the 'Vesta sepulchral fire' of X.6.

    The following evening a similar upright Grand Trine forms, yet it would be Neptune facing the debasing descent instead of Venus.

    The Saturn solar conjunct for Geneva 16 February 2023 will coincide with Dusk at 5:55 pm CET.

    The Vertex seems equally uninvolved with all three versions of the Midheaven-Mercury-Ceres Grand Trine on the three consecutive evenings 14 through 16 February 2023, yet only the Valentine's Day version bears the conditions given as
    ominous.
    The currently-daily Midheaven Grand Trine with Mercury and Ceres was probably not intended for the activating Chalice, but the slightly later Grand Trine where Fortune in Sagittarius passes between the relative locations of Lilith past 4
    degrees Leo and Vesta nearing 3 degrees Aries - that is an isolated triple correspondence in the Fire signs for Geneva 14 February 2023 7:49 pm to 7:55 pm CET [1:49 to 1:55 pm EST] omitted in error.
    Vestal Chalice For Venusian Nadir, Then Corinth & Ephesus Found In Axis {15 February 2023 2:33 am CET / 14 February 2023 8:33 pm EST / 5:33 pm PST}

    The requisite conditions in judicial astrology and emergent disastrous precursors have not failed in establishing an intricate trail towards an ultimate double cataclysm whose inevitability appears manifest - the cryptic veracity of the
    French prophecies allow some limited pre-event awareness, which should be refined, if only to facilitate post-mortem acknowledgement. Several major news events since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse have been featured as precursors, incorporating
    precise details beyond random happenings (the serial posting here should demonstrate some elaborations).

    The immense fatalities from the sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border 6 February 2023 occurred on the feast for two nephews of Saint Patrick, enacting II.92 line 3 - 'Great human murder, taken from the Great Nephew'; the situations in
    VI.82 and 89 match, and a complicated comparison between this Nephew of Blood and a later Nephew emerging through Fear appears in the process of current fulfillment.

    Viewing the chart for Geneva's Venusian Nadir 15 February 2023 2:33 am CET showed yet another Grand Trine, then with the Ascendant joining Lilith and Vesta: since Venus is in the debasing Nadir position, this instance is particularly
    ominous.

    Also because Neptune is close to conjoining Venus, when it is at the Nadir two minutes later at 2:35 am CET, at the base of the skewed Prime Vertical, it complements at an oblique angle the Moon nearing opposition with Mars, with the two
    appearing aligned slightly off the Ecliptic. The Mars lunar opposition technically takes place later that morning at 3:05 am CET, yet the rough impression exists in the earlier charts.

    So two minutes after the potential Venusian debasement cataclysmic onset, Neptune and the Moon separately define a dual-axis correspondence for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity from III.3.

    Venus reaching the Nadir ends the Saturnin interval; and the Vestal Reign culminates in the fateful Grand Trine with Lilith and the Ascendant - it takes 'three to tango' in forming the Chalice.

    The Vertex around 16 degrees Cancer has no aspects involving or competing significantly with the transitory Chalice Grand Trine.

    The principal celestial bodies are then beneath the Ecliptic, excluding Mars near the Descendant: Ceres, Lilith and Pallas share the overhead Vault, compliant with V.65 stipulating Vesta herself would not be visible.

    Since the Ascendant is involved, the Grand Trine points towards the Left, rather than appearing like a Balance, or moving in rotation.
    Saturnin Cup Debases Queen Venus In Lunar Temple [22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST]

    The temporal separation between the 6 February 2023 sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border and the cataclysmic onset is slightly more extensive than presumed, accepting the Vienne date as 22 February 2023 for Saint Paschasius, bishop of
    Vienne, who was granted supremacy over seven provinces by Pope Sylvester I circa 322. Two Lombardy dates are adjacent: Saint Peter Damian with a 21 February feast was legate to Milan for Pope Nicholas II circa 1059; and Blessed Anselm of Milan was a
    friar whose body was enshrined in the church of Santa Maria della Pace after his death in 1481.

    The Magi Gift Attack theme acquires the necessary date of a saint associated with myrrh via Saint Polycarp, bishop of Smyrna (the location known for myrrh), who was to be burned alive in a stadium circa 155, assuring his executioners there
    was no need to nail him to the pyre: from a witness account, "Like a ship's sail swirling in the wind, the flame became as it were a dome encircling the martyr's body. Surrounded by the fire, his body was like a bread that is baked, or gold and silver
    white-hot in a furnace, not like flesh that has been burnt. So sweet a fragrance came to us that it was like that of burning incense, or some other costly and sweet-smelling gum." So the saint associated with the Myrrh location set aflame exhibited the
    properties of the gummy substance, although Polycarp did not perish by the fire.

    Perceiving Polycarp to be unharmed, the execution proceeded using a dagger to stab him to death, then his corpse was burned.

    "'I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire'" {Revelation 3:18}

    Both Blessed Anselm of Milan and Saint Polycarp share the 23 February feast day.

    Other prophetic references become clear around these dates.

    The feast of the Chair of Saint Peter is 22 February, commemorating the founding of the See of Antioch; the Roman celebration also included 18 February. Both Masses include the same 'Collect': "O God, who, together with the power of the keys
    of the Kingdom of Heaven, didst bestow on blessed Peter Thy Apostle the pontificate of binding and loosing, grant that by the aid of his intersection we may be released from the yoke of our sins."
    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Gaul to shake, the Bark to become imperiled

    Line 3 of X.58 could be presenting two references for 22 February 2023, Gaul and Vienne being for Saint Paschasius, and the Bark indicating not the current papacy at Rome, but the feast for the Chair of Saint Peter.

    About a hundred Grand Trines were examined from 16 to 25 February 2023, discovering some anomalies. A Double Grand Trine oriented like the Star of David was found for Geneva charts 17 February 2023, without the requisite ominous conditions;
    for the afternoon of 21 February 2023, Fortune and the Vertex moved in trine-alignment to form successive Grand Trines with several celestial bodies (the Moon, Neptune, Venus, Vesta, Jupiter, Chiron and Juno).

    The Part of Fortune is clearly hinted in II.66, and the Vertex (as near-anagram Vitrix) in V.18, where 'son vitrix' works translated as 'his Vertex' for Trinitarian co-founder Saint Felix of Valois. The suggestion from V.65 of principals in
    the affair being hidden could relate to the unseen conceptual points: Vesta as the lady on coals no longer being visible speaks to atmospheric changes rendering the overhead Vault obscured.

    The veil seemed lifted on the pivotal contribution of Saturn when it was realized the ringed planet was involved in only one Grand Trine during the interval examined - and it emerged as a variation on the post-Full Super Moon 16 July 2022 2:
    06 am CEST condition compliant with IV.31, however no longer with the Moon near Saturn. The previous Saturnin Grand Trine was on the false-Midheaven Apex of the Eleventh House cusp: its base has Venus on one side, and the merging of Fortune and the
    Vertex on the other. The new Saturnin Grand Trine occurs 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET, with the base having the Vertex on one side, and Fortune on the other.

    Thus the lunar conjunctions could be separated for Neptune, presenting the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3, and the Vestal sepulchral fire of X.6: the Moon would be passing Venus for the catastrophe to debase her specifically.

    A Venusian Reign starts by entering Aries 20 February 2023 8:56 am CET, and ends when exceeding the relative location of Lilith, 24 February 2023 4:07 pm CET. Venus as Mystery Babylon from Revelation receives her Cup of divine wrath while
    sitting as Queen, rejecting The Great Mourning for Jesus Christ, while asserting (quite accurately of herself as representing modern culture) that she is no widow who might feel such emotional grief.

    The Neptune lunar conjunction occurs 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET at 24 degrees 17 minutes Pisces.

    For Geneva on 22 February 2023 using CET:

    10:26 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 2 degrees 32 minutes Aries;

    10:47 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Apex at false Midheaven on Eleventh House cusp (28 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius), base consisting of Fortune (28 degrees 44 minutes Gemini) and the Vertex (26 degrees 47 minutes Libra), and the East Point
    separately merged with the Node - this is the critical time for cataclysmic onset -

    << 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST / 1:47 am PST >>;

    12:07 pm - Pisces Sun and Aries Moon adjacent at 3 degrees 33 minutes - 'De Sol et Lune' ('With Sun and Moon') from V.66;

    4:52 pm - Vesta lunar conjunct at 6 degrees 24 minutes Aries.

    The final line of V.66 skips ahead to the hybrid solar eclipse of 20 April 2023, visible for Indonesia and Australia: the date coincides with the feast for Saint Servilian, a Trajan martyr beheaded in Rome circa 117.
    Ardente lampe Traian d'or burine
    Burning lamp engraved with Trajan gold

    *

    '...When He Entered
    Through The Gate
    Of Jerusalem..'
    The ringed sports trophy in the foreground of the Sgt Pepper tableau cover image suggests planet Saturn in a warped way, perhaps disclosing intentional references to the Solar System: the jovial circus song aligned with Jupiter energy ending
    Side One was resumed with the long, slow sad song as George Harrison's compositional contribution, immersed in a saturnine tone that was supposedly relieved with deliberate laughter in the outro.

    The similarity of the two Geneva Saturnin Upright Grand Trines suggests the 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST post-Full Super Moon version (IV.31) was the falsifying Cupbearer from the final line of VI.89, with the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET
    variation presenting the Chalice that is drained: its orientation simultaneously recalls the Trinity and the Cup activated by being overturned or inverted.

    The 18 December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine matches the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' because it shifted immediately into a reconstituted version as Fortune proceeded, however this successive pair of Fortune Grand Trines
    was preceeded by the actual 'Chief Pail Of Water,' meaning a Saturnin Grand Trine. When Saturn passed Midheaven in Aquarius 4:22 pm CET, it was in a Grand Trine with the Libran Moon and the Ascendant in Gemini; the Offspring Successive Grand Trines
    followed around 5:35 pm and 6:05 pm CET respectively, as the 'son led in spinning.' The chronology was established by the final line setting the release of Griner as the female captive conducted to freedom through the prior 7 December 2022 association
    with Antioch via hagiology.

    Likewise the Surprise Grand Trine emerging when Fortune has its leap at Dusk 13 December 2022 4:45 pm CET as Saturnin, since Fortune was with Saturn at Midheaven before jumping to the position for a Saturnin-Ascendant-Fortune Grand Trine.

    Dans bois caches soldats jour de Lucie
    Qui ne fut onc si horrible trone

    Near the woods soldiers hidden on the day for Lucy
    For whom there never was so horrible a Throne

    The theme of IX.68 goes beyond mere potentiality in the 'hidden soldiers' as still-subterranean and intact immense magnets of the LHC, with the identifying image of the Black Forest proximity: this day appears designated for the Supreme Being
    Throne issuing the punishing order, that Queen Babylon, as Venus then-reigning, should have the cup she mixed for herself mixed double. The Fortune jump into the Surprise Grand Trine made a double for the simultaneous Grand Trine of Ceres and Pluto with
    the East Point. The Revelation passage has been illuminated so the actual date could be derived.

    The Saturnin Grand Trine was established as the major instrument of Divine Fury for the cataclysm through its prior variant forms.

    The Mobile sign of I.54 was a Solar Grand Trine featured for its Geneva Venusian Nadir resembling a tipping Balance on the Sun-Fulcrum 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, time-equivalent for the US House chamber being announced for the Republican
    majority, whose extreme goals and tactics would prove alarming when the debt-ceiling limit later fell on the feast for a Lombard saint, as reflected in V.42.

    The Lombard reference in VI.16 is Apocalyptic, with heavenly angels carrying out the dark task, intending to infuse commentary on the Tavern shooting at another Lombard feast date, by staging the primary fiery event at the Black Forest place
    with another Lombard association. This manifestation provides potentially double meaning for V.42, with terror for Lombard folk under the Balance, not being tipped but overthrown.

    So the 22 February 2023 return to the Upright Grand Trine form with Saturn at the Vertical-Apex Eleventh House cusp, from that same discovery for 16 July 2022, is especially ominous.

    The lines that refer to lunar conjunctions in the cataclysmic sequence can be identified, with temple implications.

    Corinth, Ephese lors en perplexite
    Corinth, Ephesus then in perplexity
    [III.3, Neptune lunar conjunct 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET]
    Sera meurtri a Venus faisant voeu
    Will be murdered at Venus making a vow

    [VIII.32, Venus lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 10:26 am CET]

    Vesta sepulcre feu eteint apparaitre

    Vesta sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear

    [X.6, Vesta lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 4:52 pm CET]

    Conversely, the Saturnin clues seem to relate primarily to the activating version of the critical 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Vertex, with those enduring its effects being dubbed 'The Saturnins.'

    Les Saturnins brules par les meuniers

    The Saturnins burned by the millers

    [VI.17]

    Par Saturnins endurera le pire

    The worst will be endured by the Saturnins

    [V.24]

    Saturne d'or en fer se changera

    Saturn with gold will convert itself into sword

    A major difference in the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine from the 16 July 2022 version is that Saturn is near the Sun instead of the Moon; Saturn's solar conjunct occurred 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET (noting match with V.42
    enumeration), for the golden factor that designates destructive manifestation.
    Reactions to The Beatles' seven-year presentation varied between regions and timeframes, with societies attempting to judge them based on cultural precepts, while lacking substantive comprehension of their intentions and tactics. A family member
    sends me a text about being certain they were diabolical because of a hand signal made during the promotion for the "Yellow Submarine" animated film, which is like saying the Hopis were like Nazis because they both used the swastika, or that a symbol can
    only have one meaning by however appropriates it - a link to the raw footage from the 11 August 1966 Chicago press conference was provided, without receiving any comment on what the group members actually said when the critical subject of Christianity
    unambiguously emerged. People will generally believe what they want, and utterly disregard what creates cognitive dissonance for them.

    When the known history is integrated with the esoteric facets of the group story, what emerges is neither common knowledge nor easily anticipated: the hysteria-inducing effect of the subliminal psychological transference characterized their
    touring years as a cultural phenomenon, while having little to do with the various productions being planned for recordings; reconstructing the famous episodes with some insight puts a judicial mirror up to contemporary society more than the band, who
    instead exhibit sardonically clever auditory ideas being manifested for an oblivious world, constantly reminding itself that something vaguely monumental was happening, without understanding its profound implications.

    The Beatles eventually won the battle over style: their early rhythm-and-blues approach was racially provocative; baroque and symphonic leanings in the middle presented neo-Classical legitimacy; in their late group phase an unassuming purity
    emerged, so the Sunday Church feeling for "Let It Be" seemed completely genuine. The same elder who scoffed scornfully at their debut on the Ed Sullivan show would express a spiritual devotion to the McCartney tune "Mull Of Kintyre," without consciously
    realizing what the bagpipe sequence might have been conveying. The struggle to delve into their substance remains unfulfilled, since they themselves would not lead into that uncharted territory, merely asserting there were plenty of things yet
    unconsidered.

    The process outlined of Christian regression appears subliminally expressed in their debut album cover of "Baby It's You," where the repeated backing vocal accusation "Cheat! Cheat!" could be applied to Jesus being said to have 'cheated Death.'
    The scatted "Sha-La-La"s appear in two forms: the longer version suggests,

    'Shall I Write
    Another
    LAW?'

    Ending this repetition with the truncated variation implies more simply,

    'Shall I Write A Law?'

    The instrumental solo there, with heavy electric guitar augmented by George Martin note-matching on the brighter-sounding celeste (whose name connotes 'heavenly'), an achievement while limited to twin-track mono, could have given away the entire
    agenda, in part explaining,

    'Start With The Ending:
    His Ascension -
    To Heaven...'


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