• Re: Piccolo Trumpet - Penny Lane (2/2)

    From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Sun Jan 15 10:49:13 2023
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    There seems to be a double prophecy in X.88, where the first half concerned the EgyptAir 990 crash of 31 October 1999, which also involved an aircraft broken in half (as 'Foot and Horse'), taking off from New York City yet destined to crash in the ocean
    nearby ('They will make an entry into the sea devastating all'), giving the correct time of day as 'the second watch.' Notice the phrasing of line 3 -

    Dedans le poil entrera de Marseille

    The word 'poil' should mean hair, or 'bristle' - 'Seti' (the name of the Nepalese Gorge) in Latin also transliterates into 'bristle': so the French seer has acknowledged the unfortunate ultimate destination of Seti Gorge for the flight on the 15 January
    2023 Marseilles date.

    The final line of X.88 could regard the major cataclysm that shortly follows the crash into Seti Gorge -

    Pleurs, cris, et sang, onc nul temps si amer

    Tears, cries, and blood - never were times so bitter

    There is ambiguity whether the subject was still the plane disaster.

    *

    Trying to explain The Beatles' success as some evil aberration that had to involve some bargain with dark forces is a desperate and ignorant attempt to evade the true challenge posed by Jesus, which was to recognize the time of angelic visitation, and
    perceive what was being offered on a subliminal level, so that the Remembrance of Him could be the springboard to Salvation. As reiterated from Isaiah, merely seeing and hearing in the normal mode is an inadequate approach to attain the insights that
    would affect the required spiritual conversion.

    The Beatles returning from Hamburg received an unexpected reaction because the British crowds thought they were German, with the new sound developed from onstage performances. The screaming began later in Glasgow, but became the normal reaction at their
    concerts without any deliberate direction. From various interviews the group members conveyed a sense of hypocrisy in religious institutions, so that reprocessing the message of Christianity into a sound format could have been their test for society.

    The extraordinary popularity they enjoyed was met by McCartney-Lennon proclaiming they had discovered the 'formula' for writing hit songs, without elaborating that fans were likely to be experiencing transference, the subconscious messages inducing
    confusion between the story of Jesus, and the Foursome all attempting to retell it while projecting themselves as aspiring to be Christ-like. That is likely why there was no single 'Horseman' selected to represent Jesus riding into Jerusalem in the "
    Penny Lane" promotional film: all Four wanted to assume the Messianic role simultaneously, asserting their Faith collectively without self-explanatory fanfare.

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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Thu Jan 19 07:00:54 2023
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    Gaul to be shaken, to imperil the Bark
    Marseilles to be tried at the Western entreaty

    Gaul is now being presumed for 21 January 2023 via Saint Patroclus of Troyes; the Bark of Saint Peter is the Roman Catholic papacy. The Western entreaty implies some new effort to peacefully resolve the Russian invasion of Ukraine ongoing conflict,
    close to 15 January 2023.

    There seems to be a double prophecy in X.88, where the first half concerned the EgyptAir 990 crash of 31 October 1999, which also involved an aircraft broken in half (as 'Foot and Horse'), taking off from New York City yet destined to crash in the
    ocean nearby ('They will make an entry into the sea devastating all'), giving the correct time of day as 'the second watch.' Notice the phrasing of line 3 -

    Dedans le poil entrera de Marseille

    The word 'poil' should mean hair, or 'bristle' - 'Seti' (the name of the Nepalese Gorge) in Latin also transliterates into 'bristle': so the French seer has acknowledged the unfortunate ultimate destination of Seti Gorge for the flight on the 15
    January 2023 Marseilles date.

    The final line of X.88 could regard the major cataclysm that shortly follows the crash into Seti Gorge -

    Pleurs, cris, et sang, onc nul temps si amer

    Tears, cries, and blood - never were times so bitter

    There is ambiguity whether the subject was still the plane disaster.

    *

    Trying to explain The Beatles' success as some evil aberration that had to involve some bargain with dark forces is a desperate and ignorant attempt to evade the true challenge posed by Jesus, which was to recognize the time of angelic visitation, and
    perceive what was being offered on a subliminal level, so that the Remembrance of Him could be the springboard to Salvation. As reiterated from Isaiah, merely seeing and hearing in the normal mode is an inadequate approach to attain the insights that
    would affect the required spiritual conversion.

    The Beatles returning from Hamburg received an unexpected reaction because the British crowds thought they were German, with the new sound developed from onstage performances. The screaming began later in Glasgow, but became the normal reaction at
    their concerts without any deliberate direction. From various interviews the group members conveyed a sense of hypocrisy in religious institutions, so that reprocessing the message of Christianity into a sound format could have been their test for
    society.

    The extraordinary popularity they enjoyed was met by McCartney-Lennon proclaiming they had discovered the 'formula' for writing hit songs, without elaborating that fans were likely to be experiencing transference, the subconscious messages inducing
    confusion between the story of Jesus, and the Foursome all attempting to retell it while projecting themselves as aspiring to be Christ-like. That is likely why there was no single 'Horseman' selected to represent Jesus riding into Jerusalem in the "
    Penny Lane" promotional film: all Four wanted to assume the Messianic role simultaneously, asserting their Faith collectively without self-explanatory fanfare.

    Numerous Lyons references could be applied to the recent plane crash in Nepal: IX.68 commences three consecutive related quatrains, as the first report of retrieved bodies was 68, with a 69th found in Seti River Monday evening, then the 70th at the crash
    site early Tuesday, before the final accounting was made to 72. There is an interesting transliteration in X.88 of 'poil' meaning 'bristle' (like hair) with Seti, which in Latin means 'bristle.'

    The 15 January 2023 Nepal plane crash being a Lyons event, as precursor for the cataclysm presumed for the 22 January 2023 Vienne date, skips over the 19 January 2023 case for Venus at the Nadir in Geneva. The 'Ulm' of VIII.34 being solved for the
    honoring of Blessed Henry Suso on 23 January is nearly conclusive, with a mention of Lyons preceding to reinforce the sequencing. About a week beyond Lyons is Vienne-Ulm. A new Rhodes date for V.16 would be 12 February 2023, for Venerable Meletios of
    Ypseni.

    The recent Juno Reign could still be the conditions for X.17, despite a subsequent Lilith Reign being terminated by the solar advance into Aquarius - a new Lilith Reign commences 21 January 2023 8:51 pm CET, which will end more than two weeks later when
    Vesta enters Aries 8 February 2023 5:44 am CET. No longer searching for the circumstances that have been previously observed (such as Corinth-Ephesus correlations from 2 November 2022 and 10 January 2023), the parameters have neatly narrowed, with some
    lines taken for real-world predictions rather than hints for the judicial astrology. So certain lines should be reapplied, with their placement in the jigsaw Time Puzzle becoming clearer towards the catastrophic onset.

    The New Moon occurs at 1 degree 32 minutes Aquarius 21 January 2023 9:53 pm CET, presenting the Sun and Moon together for the V.66 prelude to the 'glittering metals' incident.

    Venus at the Nadir for Geneva 22 January 2023 2:15 am CET has a chart with Pluto, the Sun and the Moon as a nearly equidistant grouping, without a definitively ominous appearance.

    A major transition occurs with the Venus-Saturn conjunct at 24 degrees 47 minutes Aquarius 22 January 2023 11:05 pm CET, since the celestial bodies become transposed: the next day, Saturn will reach the Nadir slightly ahead of Venus.

    Saturn at the Nadir for Geneva 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET is at the fulcrum point (24 degrees 48 minutes Aquarius) of an Inverted Grand Trine with conceptual points Fortune (25 degrees 36 minutes Libra) and the Vertex (21 degrees 58 minutes Gemini).
    This 'Balance' impression also appears to be the Apocalyptic Cup or Urn, tipping towards the left as the Midheaven is skewed, forming the Crest of a Pediment with Fortune and the Vertex. In this way Venus very near Saturn is both debased at the Nadir (a
    minute later at 2:16 am CET), and perceived as receiving the Saturnin Cup.

    The critical time would be -

    << 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET / 22 January 2023 8:15 pm EST / 5:15 pm PST >>

    The Grand Trine and Pediment together present a Kite configuration, tipping leftward at the top; the fateful observation with Venus at the Nadir 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET had the Sun-Lilith-Neptune Inverted Grand Trine tipped towards the right at the
    top. In the 23 January 2023 case, a cylindrical form overlaps the Grand Trine, however it is broken: Ascendant (12.5 degrees Scorpio) sextile Mercury (9 degrees 23 minutes Capricorn) is somewhat weak; Mercury trine the Node (9 degrees 2 minutes Taurus)
    is strong; the Node is about six degrees from Ouranos (near 15 degrees Taurus), which is in a sextile aspect with Pallas (13 degrees 46 minutes Cancer); and Pallas is in a trine with the Ascendant - however the rectangular pattern being broken renders
    the form technically inconsequential.

    The 'Vesta sepulchral fire' phrasing from X.6 should regard its conjoining with Neptune 23 January 2023 8:11 pm CET - when Vesta and Neptune meet at 23 degrees 21 minutes Pisces, a clear rectangular form appears aligned horizontally in parallel with the
    Ecliptic: Fortune (7 degrees 37 minutes Leo) sextile Ceres (6 degrees 32 minutes Libra) trine the Vertex (in solar proximity at 5 degrees 7 minutes Aquarius), whose conceptual point is in a sextile aspect with the pairing of Juno-Jupiter (4.5 to 5
    degrees Aries), which is roughly in a trine with the Part of Fortune to complete the rectangular form. The Moon and Saturn-Venus will then be slightly below the Descendant.

    This horizontal Box suggests the rectangles previously observed were leading towards this coffin-like manifestation coinciding with the Vesta-Neptune conjunct, rather than representing 'Cylindrical Vessels.' The chronology of IV.58 implies the 18
    December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine as the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' and the Trinity concept being subverted for divine retribution via a particular Grand Trine was a hidden theme from V.18.

    Some January hagiological associations already made could be seen as valid in retrospect: 16 January as Lorraine via Saint Honoratus of Arles; the 19th as Lombardy via Saint Bassian - and Smyrna-Myrrh through Saint Germanicus for the Magi Gift Attack
    theme; the 21st as Gaul via Saint Patroclus; the 22nd as Vienne with Saint Paschasius; the 23rd as Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso.

    For 24 January, Saint Francis de Sales had a connection to Geneva.

    The Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 remains a mystery, possibly spotlighting Saint Paula for 26 January 2023 - born in Rome 347, and died in Bethlehem 404, she is the patroness of widows.

    Saint Thomas Aquinas with the 28 January feast could be inferred as a Toulouse date: he died 7 March 1274, but since that date fell within Lent the calendar was revised in 1969, using the 28 January 1369 date of his remains being placed in the Church of
    Jacobins, Toulouse; from 1789 to 1974 his remains were placed in the Basilique de Sant-Sernin, also in Toulouse, before being returned to the Church of Jacobins.

    The reference to Basil the Great in VI.78 has a potential tandem solution with V.83, the ecumenical rivalry with Saints John Chrysostom and Gregory the Theologian over which was greatest culminating in the 5 October 1084 dream of Saint John Mauropous
    whereby their spiritual solidarity was basis for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs instituted for 30 January, depicted by an iconic image with the three Church figures standing together, each reverently holding a Bible - 'the greatest at the table'
    recalled the divisive rivalry which had an esoteric solution. Because VI.78 presents the 30 January 2023 date as marking initial stages of a mass conversion, while V.83 has it instead as a confirmation point after three nights to warn of an unparalleled
    nation being subverted through fraud, the date is probably used as a dual-purpose aftermath checkpoint.

    Taking 12 February 2023 as the date when the Garabandal Miracle will first be witnessed leads to two timing theories: the only lunar conjunct that day is with the South Node (i.e., Tail of the Dragon) at 10:28 am CET; the placement of The Miracle was
    presumed for 13 May 2021 8:30 pm locally, coinciding with a Mercury lunar conjunct - if that evening timing is consistent, it suggests the 8:31 pm CET Sun-Vertex union, with Mars reaching Midheaven.

    *

    "When two greats saints meet,
    It is a humbling experience"

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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Thu Jan 19 10:04:27 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    Beyond Lyons, great hail upon them at Vienne

    The sequence in line 3 of IX.69 has the Lyons date preceding the Apocalyptic hail shortly following at Vienne: making 15 January Lyons via Saint Bonitus renders the 22 January date as Vienne via Saint Paschasius. The physical violence of the disaster
    appears linked with Vienne in line 3 of IX.70 -

    Ceux de Vienne seront trestous haches
    Those of Vienne will all be hacked apart

    The second half of X.58 features the Marseilles hint again:

    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Tenter Phossens au Ponant entretien

    Gaul to be shaken, to imperil the Bark
    Marseilles to be tried at the Western entreaty

    Gaul is now being presumed for 21 January 2023 via Saint Patroclus of Troyes; the Bark of Saint Peter is the Roman Catholic papacy. The Western entreaty implies some new effort to peacefully resolve the Russian invasion of Ukraine ongoing conflict,
    close to 15 January 2023.

    There seems to be a double prophecy in X.88, where the first half concerned the EgyptAir 990 crash of 31 October 1999, which also involved an aircraft broken in half (as 'Foot and Horse'), taking off from New York City yet destined to crash in the
    ocean nearby ('They will make an entry into the sea devastating all'), giving the correct time of day as 'the second watch.' Notice the phrasing of line 3 -

    Dedans le poil entrera de Marseille

    The word 'poil' should mean hair, or 'bristle' - 'Seti' (the name of the Nepalese Gorge) in Latin also transliterates into 'bristle': so the French seer has acknowledged the unfortunate ultimate destination of Seti Gorge for the flight on the 15
    January 2023 Marseilles date.

    The final line of X.88 could regard the major cataclysm that shortly follows the crash into Seti Gorge -

    Pleurs, cris, et sang, onc nul temps si amer

    Tears, cries, and blood - never were times so bitter

    There is ambiguity whether the subject was still the plane disaster.

    *

    Trying to explain The Beatles' success as some evil aberration that had to involve some bargain with dark forces is a desperate and ignorant attempt to evade the true challenge posed by Jesus, which was to recognize the time of angelic visitation,
    and perceive what was being offered on a subliminal level, so that the Remembrance of Him could be the springboard to Salvation. As reiterated from Isaiah, merely seeing and hearing in the normal mode is an inadequate approach to attain the insights that
    would affect the required spiritual conversion.

    The Beatles returning from Hamburg received an unexpected reaction because the British crowds thought they were German, with the new sound developed from onstage performances. The screaming began later in Glasgow, but became the normal reaction at
    their concerts without any deliberate direction. From various interviews the group members conveyed a sense of hypocrisy in religious institutions, so that reprocessing the message of Christianity into a sound format could have been their test for
    society.

    The extraordinary popularity they enjoyed was met by McCartney-Lennon proclaiming they had discovered the 'formula' for writing hit songs, without elaborating that fans were likely to be experiencing transference, the subconscious messages inducing
    confusion between the story of Jesus, and the Foursome all attempting to retell it while projecting themselves as aspiring to be Christ-like. That is likely why there was no single 'Horseman' selected to represent Jesus riding into Jerusalem in the "
    Penny Lane" promotional film: all Four wanted to assume the Messianic role simultaneously, asserting their Faith collectively without self-explanatory fanfare.
    Numerous Lyons references could be applied to the recent plane crash in Nepal: IX.68 commences three consecutive related quatrains, as the first report of retrieved bodies was 68, with a 69th found in Seti River Monday evening, then the 70th at the
    crash site early Tuesday, before the final accounting was made to 72. There is an interesting transliteration in X.88 of 'poil' meaning 'bristle' (like hair) with Seti, which in Latin means 'bristle.'

    The 15 January 2023 Nepal plane crash being a Lyons event, as precursor for the cataclysm presumed for the 22 January 2023 Vienne date, skips over the 19 January 2023 case for Venus at the Nadir in Geneva. The 'Ulm' of VIII.34 being solved for the
    honoring of Blessed Henry Suso on 23 January is nearly conclusive, with a mention of Lyons preceding to reinforce the sequencing. About a week beyond Lyons is Vienne-Ulm. A new Rhodes date for V.16 would be 12 February 2023, for Venerable Meletios of
    Ypseni.

    The recent Juno Reign could still be the conditions for X.17, despite a subsequent Lilith Reign being terminated by the solar advance into Aquarius - a new Lilith Reign commences 21 January 2023 8:51 pm CET, which will end more than two weeks later
    when Vesta enters Aries 8 February 2023 5:44 am CET. No longer searching for the circumstances that have been previously observed (such as Corinth-Ephesus correlations from 2 November 2022 and 10 January 2023), the parameters have neatly narrowed, with
    some lines taken for real-world predictions rather than hints for the judicial astrology. So certain lines should be reapplied, with their placement in the jigsaw Time Puzzle becoming clearer towards the catastrophic onset.

    The New Moon occurs at 1 degree 32 minutes Aquarius 21 January 2023 9:53 pm CET, presenting the Sun and Moon together for the V.66 prelude to the 'glittering metals' incident.

    Venus at the Nadir for Geneva 22 January 2023 2:15 am CET has a chart with Pluto, the Sun and the Moon as a nearly equidistant grouping, without a definitively ominous appearance.

    A major transition occurs with the Venus-Saturn conjunct at 24 degrees 47 minutes Aquarius 22 January 2023 11:05 pm CET, since the celestial bodies become transposed: the next day, Saturn will reach the Nadir slightly ahead of Venus.

    Saturn at the Nadir for Geneva 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET is at the fulcrum point (24 degrees 48 minutes Aquarius) of an Inverted Grand Trine with conceptual points Fortune (25 degrees 36 minutes Libra) and the Vertex (21 degrees 58 minutes Gemini).
    This 'Balance' impression also appears to be the Apocalyptic Cup or Urn, tipping towards the left as the Midheaven is skewed, forming the Crest of a Pediment with Fortune and the Vertex. In this way Venus very near Saturn is both debased at the Nadir (a
    minute later at 2:16 am CET), and perceived as receiving the Saturnin Cup.

    The critical time would be -

    << 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET / 22 January 2023 8:15 pm EST / 5:15 pm PST >>

    The Grand Trine and Pediment together present a Kite configuration, tipping leftward at the top; the fateful observation with Venus at the Nadir 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET had the Sun-Lilith-Neptune Inverted Grand Trine tipped towards the right at
    the top. In the 23 January 2023 case, a cylindrical form overlaps the Grand Trine, however it is broken: Ascendant (12.5 degrees Scorpio) sextile Mercury (9 degrees 23 minutes Capricorn) is somewhat weak; Mercury trine the Node (9 degrees 2 minutes
    Taurus) is strong; the Node is about six degrees from Ouranos (near 15 degrees Taurus), which is in a sextile aspect with Pallas (13 degrees 46 minutes Cancer); and Pallas is in a trine with the Ascendant - however the rectangular pattern being broken
    renders the form technically inconsequential.

    The 'Vesta sepulchral fire' phrasing from X.6 should regard its conjoining with Neptune 23 January 2023 8:11 pm CET - when Vesta and Neptune meet at 23 degrees 21 minutes Pisces, a clear rectangular form appears aligned horizontally in parallel with
    the Ecliptic: Fortune (7 degrees 37 minutes Leo) sextile Ceres (6 degrees 32 minutes Libra) trine the Vertex (in solar proximity at 5 degrees 7 minutes Aquarius), whose conceptual point is in a sextile aspect with the pairing of Juno-Jupiter (4.5 to 5
    degrees Aries), which is roughly in a trine with the Part of Fortune to complete the rectangular form. The Moon and Saturn-Venus will then be slightly below the Descendant.

    This horizontal Box suggests the rectangles previously observed were leading towards this coffin-like manifestation coinciding with the Vesta-Neptune conjunct, rather than representing 'Cylindrical Vessels.' The chronology of IV.58 implies the 18
    December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine as the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' and the Trinity concept being subverted for divine retribution via a particular Grand Trine was a hidden theme from V.18.

    Some January hagiological associations already made could be seen as valid in retrospect: 16 January as Lorraine via Saint Honoratus of Arles; the 19th as Lombardy via Saint Bassian - and Smyrna-Myrrh through Saint Germanicus for the Magi Gift Attack
    theme; the 21st as Gaul via Saint Patroclus; the 22nd as Vienne with Saint Paschasius; the 23rd as Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso.

    For 24 January, Saint Francis de Sales had a connection to Geneva.

    The Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 remains a mystery, possibly spotlighting Saint Paula for 26 January 2023 - born in Rome 347, and died in Bethlehem 404, she is the patroness of widows.

    Saint Thomas Aquinas with the 28 January feast could be inferred as a Toulouse date: he died 7 March 1274, but since that date fell within Lent the calendar was revised in 1969, using the 28 January 1369 date of his remains being placed in the Church
    of Jacobins, Toulouse; from 1789 to 1974 his remains were placed in the Basilique de Sant-Sernin, also in Toulouse, before being returned to the Church of Jacobins.

    The reference to Basil the Great in VI.78 has a potential tandem solution with V.83, the ecumenical rivalry with Saints John Chrysostom and Gregory the Theologian over which was greatest culminating in the 5 October 1084 dream of Saint John Mauropous
    whereby their spiritual solidarity was basis for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs instituted for 30 January, depicted by an iconic image with the three Church figures standing together, each reverently holding a Bible - 'the greatest at the table'
    recalled the divisive rivalry which had an esoteric solution. Because VI.78 presents the 30 January 2023 date as marking initial stages of a mass conversion, while V.83 has it instead as a confirmation point after three nights to warn of an unparalleled
    nation being subverted through fraud, the date is probably used as a dual-purpose aftermath checkpoint.

    Taking 12 February 2023 as the date when the Garabandal Miracle will first be witnessed leads to two timing theories: the only lunar conjunct that day is with the South Node (i.e., Tail of the Dragon) at 10:28 am CET; the placement of The Miracle was
    presumed for 13 May 2021 8:30 pm locally, coinciding with a Mercury lunar conjunct - if that evening timing is consistent, it suggests the 8:31 pm CET Sun-Vertex union, with Mars reaching Midheaven.

    *

    "When two greats saints meet,
    It is a humbling experience"

    The 23 January 2023 conjoining of Vesta and Neptune is their first union since their opposition during the 6 January 2021 Capitol insurrection.

    The lunar opposition-conjunction with the Vesta-Neptune opposition on 4 January 2021 was projected as the time for the enormous violence of X.61 at 'pike and fire'; also a schedule was developed demonstrating the long cycle for reigning of Saturn after
    its conjunction with Jupiter at the 2020 Winter Solstice until Mars entered a new sign on 6 January 2021, not realizing when calculated prior how closely that Mars Reign commencement would be synchronized with the arrival of the National Guard to quell
    the riot.

    Planetary reigning is an elusive concept, that tantalized the generation circa 1999 attempting to fathom X.72 while rejecting the requisite tools: 'Mars to reign beneficially, before and after' - but the in-between case, the Mars entry into Capricorn 8
    September 2001, delayed by retrograde since the previous instance fell on Valentine's Day 2001, initiated the period for the 9-11 attacks (and the subsequent Mars progression coincided with passage of the defensive Patriot Act).

    Obviously if a corollary to the Vesta-Neptune opposition were sought, the 23 January 2023 timing for their union would be ideal.

    Also Saturn appears featured in a different role than the reigning for the two revolts of I.54, with a conceptual Grand Trine at the Geneva Nadir, seeming to provide the igniting spark that is immediately transferred to debase Venus following at the
    Nadir with the engulfing conflagration. The Saturnin Grand Trine is oriented in mirror-image mockery of the Venus at Nadir chart 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, considered the 'Under The Balance' reference from V.42, skewed Left instead of Right to about
    the same angle.

    Thus those who had been included 'Under The Balance' could mean the Republican House majority being decided at the equivalent time of 16 November 2022 6:47 pm EST - 'The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid - By those whom Eagal observed included
    while Under The Balance': there is no compliant interpretation involving celestial bodies positioned at the Nadir then beyond Venus, such as Mercury. It does not seem purely political, since the great fear resembles the cataclysmic terror, yet the
    extreme faction could attempt to essentially extort massive cuts to entitlement programs, presumably to support further massive tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers, using the occasion of the necessary raising of the debt limit to endorse national
    solvency in contrast to default status.

    In this sense the 19 January 2023 date for Lombardy via Saint Bassian coincides with a preliminary date for this debt limit conflict, where the Republican House might have no members relenting, while the Democrats attempt to hold strong, a tactic that
    the Speaker found untenable. Paying for national debts already incurred becomes a bargaining point for those lacking real concern for the fate of the global economy, since even publicly questioning this obligation can have serve financial repercussions.

    There is a House member who said his mother died during the 9-11 attacks, while she applied for a visa in 2003 declaring not having been in the US since 1999. A New Mexico case involves a candidate accused on contesting his landslide loss by arranging
    sniper attacks on the homes of officials who would not agree to overturn the results in his favor. For some winning is not the main thing but the only thing, and the thirst for power to abuse can only perhaps be quenched by a full-fledged authoritarian
    nightmare.

    The Beatles created an aesthetic dream that regressed into the remembrance of Christ's Ministry for the "Penny Lane" triumphal entry into Jerusalem phase, however a forward tangent simultaneously rendered it an afterlife experience, haunting the beloved
    childhood place recently cleansed by rain; the images for the single sleeve featured pictures from their four respective infancies, so it was including George and Ringo with John and Paul in the single concept. Proper sequencing for the Christian story
    would put the associated Sgt Pepper album after "Strawberry Fields Forever," and before "Penny Lane."

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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Sun Jan 22 19:58:14 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    In I.72 Bonitus being appointed governor of Marseilles is suggested as in identifying fact; the word 'course' has been translated as 'flight' from Leoni's publication circa 1960, without intending to correlate with any airplane incident. Bonitus
    dying in Lyons is another factor establishing his feast day as fateful.

    The case in II.83 is more dubious, speaking of 'heavy traffic changed' at Lyons; the second portion seems to concern the Geneva catastrophe, with the Jura mountain range and 'Swiss drizzle,' with pillage by soldiers reminiscent of IX.68, where
    Lyons is invoked as the juncture of the Rhone and Saone rivers, where evil occurs. Line 3 of III.79 has the chain broken at the port of Marseilles. The mention of Lyons in VIII.34 is isolated, inferring its details are included elsewhere.

    Outre Lyon, Vien eux si grande grele

    Beyond Lyons, great hail upon them at Vienne

    The sequence in line 3 of IX.69 has the Lyons date preceding the Apocalyptic hail shortly following at Vienne: making 15 January Lyons via Saint Bonitus renders the 22 January date as Vienne via Saint Paschasius. The physical violence of the
    disaster appears linked with Vienne in line 3 of IX.70 -

    Ceux de Vienne seront trestous haches
    Those of Vienne will all be hacked apart

    The second half of X.58 features the Marseilles hint again:

    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Tenter Phossens au Ponant entretien

    Gaul to be shaken, to imperil the Bark
    Marseilles to be tried at the Western entreaty

    Gaul is now being presumed for 21 January 2023 via Saint Patroclus of Troyes; the Bark of Saint Peter is the Roman Catholic papacy. The Western entreaty implies some new effort to peacefully resolve the Russian invasion of Ukraine ongoing conflict,
    close to 15 January 2023.

    There seems to be a double prophecy in X.88, where the first half concerned the EgyptAir 990 crash of 31 October 1999, which also involved an aircraft broken in half (as 'Foot and Horse'), taking off from New York City yet destined to crash in the
    ocean nearby ('They will make an entry into the sea devastating all'), giving the correct time of day as 'the second watch.' Notice the phrasing of line 3 -

    Dedans le poil entrera de Marseille

    The word 'poil' should mean hair, or 'bristle' - 'Seti' (the name of the Nepalese Gorge) in Latin also transliterates into 'bristle': so the French seer has acknowledged the unfortunate ultimate destination of Seti Gorge for the flight on the 15
    January 2023 Marseilles date.

    The final line of X.88 could regard the major cataclysm that shortly follows the crash into Seti Gorge -

    Pleurs, cris, et sang, onc nul temps si amer

    Tears, cries, and blood - never were times so bitter

    There is ambiguity whether the subject was still the plane disaster.

    *

    Trying to explain The Beatles' success as some evil aberration that had to involve some bargain with dark forces is a desperate and ignorant attempt to evade the true challenge posed by Jesus, which was to recognize the time of angelic visitation,
    and perceive what was being offered on a subliminal level, so that the Remembrance of Him could be the springboard to Salvation. As reiterated from Isaiah, merely seeing and hearing in the normal mode is an inadequate approach to attain the insights that
    would affect the required spiritual conversion.

    The Beatles returning from Hamburg received an unexpected reaction because the British crowds thought they were German, with the new sound developed from onstage performances. The screaming began later in Glasgow, but became the normal reaction at
    their concerts without any deliberate direction. From various interviews the group members conveyed a sense of hypocrisy in religious institutions, so that reprocessing the message of Christianity into a sound format could have been their test for
    society.

    The extraordinary popularity they enjoyed was met by McCartney-Lennon proclaiming they had discovered the 'formula' for writing hit songs, without elaborating that fans were likely to be experiencing transference, the subconscious messages inducing
    confusion between the story of Jesus, and the Foursome all attempting to retell it while projecting themselves as aspiring to be Christ-like. That is likely why there was no single 'Horseman' selected to represent Jesus riding into Jerusalem in the "
    Penny Lane" promotional film: all Four wanted to assume the Messianic role simultaneously, asserting their Faith collectively without self-explanatory fanfare.
    Numerous Lyons references could be applied to the recent plane crash in Nepal: IX.68 commences three consecutive related quatrains, as the first report of retrieved bodies was 68, with a 69th found in Seti River Monday evening, then the 70th at the
    crash site early Tuesday, before the final accounting was made to 72. There is an interesting transliteration in X.88 of 'poil' meaning 'bristle' (like hair) with Seti, which in Latin means 'bristle.'

    The 15 January 2023 Nepal plane crash being a Lyons event, as precursor for the cataclysm presumed for the 22 January 2023 Vienne date, skips over the 19 January 2023 case for Venus at the Nadir in Geneva. The 'Ulm' of VIII.34 being solved for the
    honoring of Blessed Henry Suso on 23 January is nearly conclusive, with a mention of Lyons preceding to reinforce the sequencing. About a week beyond Lyons is Vienne-Ulm. A new Rhodes date for V.16 would be 12 February 2023, for Venerable Meletios of
    Ypseni.

    The recent Juno Reign could still be the conditions for X.17, despite a subsequent Lilith Reign being terminated by the solar advance into Aquarius - a new Lilith Reign commences 21 January 2023 8:51 pm CET, which will end more than two weeks later
    when Vesta enters Aries 8 February 2023 5:44 am CET. No longer searching for the circumstances that have been previously observed (such as Corinth-Ephesus correlations from 2 November 2022 and 10 January 2023), the parameters have neatly narrowed, with
    some lines taken for real-world predictions rather than hints for the judicial astrology. So certain lines should be reapplied, with their placement in the jigsaw Time Puzzle becoming clearer towards the catastrophic onset.

    The New Moon occurs at 1 degree 32 minutes Aquarius 21 January 2023 9:53 pm CET, presenting the Sun and Moon together for the V.66 prelude to the 'glittering metals' incident.

    Venus at the Nadir for Geneva 22 January 2023 2:15 am CET has a chart with Pluto, the Sun and the Moon as a nearly equidistant grouping, without a definitively ominous appearance.

    A major transition occurs with the Venus-Saturn conjunct at 24 degrees 47 minutes Aquarius 22 January 2023 11:05 pm CET, since the celestial bodies become transposed: the next day, Saturn will reach the Nadir slightly ahead of Venus.

    Saturn at the Nadir for Geneva 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET is at the fulcrum point (24 degrees 48 minutes Aquarius) of an Inverted Grand Trine with conceptual points Fortune (25 degrees 36 minutes Libra) and the Vertex (21 degrees 58 minutes Gemini).
    This 'Balance' impression also appears to be the Apocalyptic Cup or Urn, tipping towards the left as the Midheaven is skewed, forming the Crest of a Pediment with Fortune and the Vertex. In this way Venus very near Saturn is both debased at the Nadir (a
    minute later at 2:16 am CET), and perceived as receiving the Saturnin Cup.

    The critical time would be -

    << 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET / 22 January 2023 8:15 pm EST / 5:15 pm PST >>

    The Grand Trine and Pediment together present a Kite configuration, tipping leftward at the top; the fateful observation with Venus at the Nadir 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET had the Sun-Lilith-Neptune Inverted Grand Trine tipped towards the right at
    the top. In the 23 January 2023 case, a cylindrical form overlaps the Grand Trine, however it is broken: Ascendant (12.5 degrees Scorpio) sextile Mercury (9 degrees 23 minutes Capricorn) is somewhat weak; Mercury trine the Node (9 degrees 2 minutes
    Taurus) is strong; the Node is about six degrees from Ouranos (near 15 degrees Taurus), which is in a sextile aspect with Pallas (13 degrees 46 minutes Cancer); and Pallas is in a trine with the Ascendant - however the rectangular pattern being broken
    renders the form technically inconsequential.

    The 'Vesta sepulchral fire' phrasing from X.6 should regard its conjoining with Neptune 23 January 2023 8:11 pm CET - when Vesta and Neptune meet at 23 degrees 21 minutes Pisces, a clear rectangular form appears aligned horizontally in parallel with
    the Ecliptic: Fortune (7 degrees 37 minutes Leo) sextile Ceres (6 degrees 32 minutes Libra) trine the Vertex (in solar proximity at 5 degrees 7 minutes Aquarius), whose conceptual point is in a sextile aspect with the pairing of Juno-Jupiter (4.5 to 5
    degrees Aries), which is roughly in a trine with the Part of Fortune to complete the rectangular form. The Moon and Saturn-Venus will then be slightly below the Descendant.

    This horizontal Box suggests the rectangles previously observed were leading towards this coffin-like manifestation coinciding with the Vesta-Neptune conjunct, rather than representing 'Cylindrical Vessels.' The chronology of IV.58 implies the 18
    December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine as the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' and the Trinity concept being subverted for divine retribution via a particular Grand Trine was a hidden theme from V.18.

    Some January hagiological associations already made could be seen as valid in retrospect: 16 January as Lorraine via Saint Honoratus of Arles; the 19th as Lombardy via Saint Bassian - and Smyrna-Myrrh through Saint Germanicus for the Magi Gift Attack
    theme; the 21st as Gaul via Saint Patroclus; the 22nd as Vienne with Saint Paschasius; the 23rd as Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso.

    For 24 January, Saint Francis de Sales had a connection to Geneva.

    The Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 remains a mystery, possibly spotlighting Saint Paula for 26 January 2023 - born in Rome 347, and died in Bethlehem 404, she is the patroness of widows.

    Saint Thomas Aquinas with the 28 January feast could be inferred as a Toulouse date: he died 7 March 1274, but since that date fell within Lent the calendar was revised in 1969, using the 28 January 1369 date of his remains being placed in the Church
    of Jacobins, Toulouse; from 1789 to 1974 his remains were placed in the Basilique de Sant-Sernin, also in Toulouse, before being returned to the Church of Jacobins.

    The reference to Basil the Great in VI.78 has a potential tandem solution with V.83, the ecumenical rivalry with Saints John Chrysostom and Gregory the Theologian over which was greatest culminating in the 5 October 1084 dream of Saint John Mauropous
    whereby their spiritual solidarity was basis for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs instituted for 30 January, depicted by an iconic image with the three Church figures standing together, each reverently holding a Bible - 'the greatest at the table'
    recalled the divisive rivalry which had an esoteric solution. Because VI.78 presents the 30 January 2023 date as marking initial stages of a mass conversion, while V.83 has it instead as a confirmation point after three nights to warn of an unparalleled
    nation being subverted through fraud, the date is probably used as a dual-purpose aftermath checkpoint.

    Taking 12 February 2023 as the date when the Garabandal Miracle will first be witnessed leads to two timing theories: the only lunar conjunct that day is with the South Node (i.e., Tail of the Dragon) at 10:28 am CET; the placement of The Miracle was
    presumed for 13 May 2021 8:30 pm locally, coinciding with a Mercury lunar conjunct - if that evening timing is consistent, it suggests the 8:31 pm CET Sun-Vertex union, with Mars reaching Midheaven.

    *

    "When two greats saints meet,
    It is a humbling experience"
    The 23 January 2023 conjoining of Vesta and Neptune is their first union since their opposition during the 6 January 2021 Capitol insurrection.

    The lunar opposition-conjunction with the Vesta-Neptune opposition on 4 January 2021 was projected as the time for the enormous violence of X.61 at 'pike and fire'; also a schedule was developed demonstrating the long cycle for reigning of Saturn after
    its conjunction with Jupiter at the 2020 Winter Solstice until Mars entered a new sign on 6 January 2021, not realizing when calculated prior how closely that Mars Reign commencement would be synchronized with the arrival of the National Guard to quell
    the riot.

    Planetary reigning is an elusive concept, that tantalized the generation circa 1999 attempting to fathom X.72 while rejecting the requisite tools: 'Mars to reign beneficially, before and after' - but the in-between case, the Mars entry into Capricorn 8
    September 2001, delayed by retrograde since the previous instance fell on Valentine's Day 2001, initiated the period for the 9-11 attacks (and the subsequent Mars progression coincided with passage of the defensive Patriot Act).

    Obviously if a corollary to the Vesta-Neptune opposition were sought, the 23 January 2023 timing for their union would be ideal.

    Also Saturn appears featured in a different role than the reigning for the two revolts of I.54, with a conceptual Grand Trine at the Geneva Nadir, seeming to provide the igniting spark that is immediately transferred to debase Venus following at the
    Nadir with the engulfing conflagration. The Saturnin Grand Trine is oriented in mirror-image mockery of the Venus at Nadir chart 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, considered the 'Under The Balance' reference from V.42, skewed Left instead of Right to about
    the same angle.

    Thus those who had been included 'Under The Balance' could mean the Republican House majority being decided at the equivalent time of 16 November 2022 6:47 pm EST - 'The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid - By those whom Eagal observed
    included while Under The Balance': there is no compliant interpretation involving celestial bodies positioned at the Nadir then beyond Venus, such as Mercury. It does not seem purely political, since the great fear resembles the cataclysmic terror, yet
    the extreme faction could attempt to essentially extort massive cuts to entitlement programs, presumably to support further massive tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers, using the occasion of the necessary raising of the debt limit to endorse national
    solvency in contrast to default status.

    In this sense the 19 January 2023 date for Lombardy via Saint Bassian coincides with a preliminary date for this debt limit conflict, where the Republican House might have no members relenting, while the Democrats attempt to hold strong, a tactic that
    the Speaker found untenable. Paying for national debts already incurred becomes a bargaining point for those lacking real concern for the fate of the global economy, since even publicly questioning this obligation can have serve financial repercussions.

    There is a House member who said his mother died during the 9-11 attacks, while she applied for a visa in 2003 declaring not having been in the US since 1999. A New Mexico case involves a candidate accused on contesting his landslide loss by arranging
    sniper attacks on the homes of officials who would not agree to overturn the results in his favor. For some winning is not the main thing but the only thing, and the thirst for power to abuse can only perhaps be quenched by a full-fledged authoritarian
    nightmare.

    The Beatles created an aesthetic dream that regressed into the remembrance of Christ's Ministry for the "Penny Lane" triumphal entry into Jerusalem phase, however a forward tangent simultaneously rendered it an afterlife experience, haunting the
    beloved childhood place recently cleansed by rain; the images for the single sleeve featured pictures from their four respective infancies, so it was including George and Ringo with John and Paul in the single concept. Proper sequencing for the Christian
    story would put the associated Sgt Pepper album after "Strawberry Fields Forever," and before "Penny Lane."

    It should not be forgotten that double A-sided single with "Penny Lane" only reached the number two spot in the charts, indicating a let-down in popularity. Dick Clark showed a group of teenagers the two promotional films, to lukewarm reaction. The
    young fans did not care much about McCartney's scooter accident leading to the moustache decision, their new personas appeared off-brand and unfamiliar. While George Martin thought "Strawberry Fields Forever" was a fantastic new direction, a sort of
    mini-symphonic creation, the at-times lethargically slowed vocal and avant-garde treatment was received as kind of a weird departure.

    Interrogating the composers towards their divulging their intentions overtly is something they would likely deliberately avoid. To do so with subliminal melodic phrases would be an admission this method of communication actually failed, requiring the
    composer to detail the note-syllable conversion, ostensibly since it was done so badly no one could ever hear it as such without having it explicitly explained. Someone else having figured out the process for themselves would probably not be convincing
    to those feeling only the original source could be trusted, rather than their own ears and intellect. A close analogy would be a magician determined to keep his tricks secret, although in this case the listener is typically unaware there even has been
    any sort of trick played upon the subconscious.

    In the horn and trumpet portions of "Penny Lane" three synonymous terms are cleverly suggested at various points: 'vendors,' 'merchants,' and 'money-changers.'

    Providing the verbal phrases that correspond with the musical performances should eliminate doubt through the self-confirming authenticity of the experience itself, however accomplishing that for each tune is a major undertaking, and bringing up each
    case to be ignorantly dismissed would not achieve cultural enlightenment.

    As for another misunderstood esoteric source, the French seer's illumination of Revelation could have us very near a cataclysm of unprecedented proportions.

    Saturnin Interval Curtailed By Venus At Ulm With Impending Vestal Union [23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST]

    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi hammer attack; the Seoul Halloween crowd crush; the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting; the Griner-
    Bout prisoner exchange; the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt; the Brazilian copycat insurrection synchronized with the Mercury solar conjunct as predicted; and the plane crash in Nepal
    into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated, with a Marseilles hint for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast.

    The 23 January 2023 date corresponds with Ulm of VIII.34 for Blessed Henry Suso, when Saturn will have a very brief post-lunar-conjunct interval, curtailed by Venus: this is a potential debasement scenario, with a Saturnin event possibly occurring prior
    to the Moon meeting Venus.

    For Geneva, using CET on 23 January 2023:

    10:24 am - Saturn lunar conjunct at 24 degrees 50 minutes Aquarius;

    10:33 am - Fortune sextile Venus at 25 degrees 22 minutes - at this point a rectangle is again evident, which for cataclysmic onset would esoterically be the Cup or Cylindrical Vessel Urn, however in the chart it is oriented at a downward angle, beneath
    the Venus-Moon-Saturn grouping.

    Provincial physical notions of a drinking vessel may not apply: simply having the formation significantly placed for Venus could plausibly be the ancient prophetic intention. The rectangular image is composed with the Sun (3 degrees 5 minutes Aquarius),
    sextile the East Point (2 degrees Aries), trine Lilith (1 degree 39 minutes Leo), sextile the Vertex (1 degree 25 minutes Libra), trine the Sun to complete the form.

    11:19 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 25 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius - the horrific explosive event should have already occurred before this aspect transpires, so that the Saturnins could have endured the worst (V.24).

    A horizontally-oriented rectangular formation appears when Vesta and Neptune conjoin at 8:11 pm, with different composition: Fortune (7 minutes 37 degrees Leo), sextile Ceres (6 minutes 32 degrees Libra), trine Vertex (5 minutes 7 degrees Aquarius),
    sextile Juno-Jupiter (4 to 4.5 degrees Aries), trine Fortune to complete the form. This should be the time of the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6, although not necessarily its igniting moment.

    Both of the Corinth-Ephesus lines could be interpreted as simultaneously activated, since the Moon will be perplexity with Saturn and Venus in Aquarius, while Neptune is approaching its union with Vesta in Pisces, the other astrological 'sea.'

    The critical time for the test of the curtailed Saturnin lunar interval theory is when Venus has its Fortune aspect -

    << 23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST / 1:33 am PST >>

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    The 15 January 2023 crash of the twin-engine ATR 72 aircraft into the Seti Gorge of Nepal, spinning out of control, going into a nosedive and breaking apart, with at least 68 aboard dead, has manifested as the Lyons event of various quatrains,
    which is a late-stage precursor to the now-imminent major cataclysm. The date corresponds with the feast for Saint Bonitus (623-706), who was made governor of Marseilles, and died in Lyons after a pilgrimage to Rome - the related quatrains appear to
    include I.72, II.83, III.79, VIII.34, IX.68, IX.69, IX.70, X.58, and X.88.

    Du tout Marseille des habitants changee
    Course et poursuite jusqu'aupres de Lyon

    Changed for all the inhabitants of Marseilles
    Flight and pursuit followed towards Lyons

    In I.72 Bonitus being appointed governor of Marseilles is suggested as in identifying fact; the word 'course' has been translated as 'flight' from Leoni's publication circa 1960, without intending to correlate with any airplane incident. Bonitus
    dying in Lyons is another factor establishing his feast day as fateful.

    The case in II.83 is more dubious, speaking of 'heavy traffic changed' at Lyons; the second portion seems to concern the Geneva catastrophe, with the Jura mountain range and 'Swiss drizzle,' with pillage by soldiers reminiscent of IX.68, where
    Lyons is invoked as the juncture of the Rhone and Saone rivers, where evil occurs. Line 3 of III.79 has the chain broken at the port of Marseilles. The mention of Lyons in VIII.34 is isolated, inferring its details are included elsewhere.

    Outre Lyon, Vien eux si grande grele

    Beyond Lyons, great hail upon them at Vienne

    The sequence in line 3 of IX.69 has the Lyons date preceding the Apocalyptic hail shortly following at Vienne: making 15 January Lyons via Saint Bonitus renders the 22 January date as Vienne via Saint Paschasius. The physical violence of the
    disaster appears linked with Vienne in line 3 of IX.70 -

    Ceux de Vienne seront trestous haches
    Those of Vienne will all be hacked apart

    The second half of X.58 features the Marseilles hint again:

    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Tenter Phossens au Ponant entretien

    Gaul to be shaken, to imperil the Bark
    Marseilles to be tried at the Western entreaty

    Gaul is now being presumed for 21 January 2023 via Saint Patroclus of Troyes; the Bark of Saint Peter is the Roman Catholic papacy. The Western entreaty implies some new effort to peacefully resolve the Russian invasion of Ukraine ongoing
    conflict, close to 15 January 2023.

    There seems to be a double prophecy in X.88, where the first half concerned the EgyptAir 990 crash of 31 October 1999, which also involved an aircraft broken in half (as 'Foot and Horse'), taking off from New York City yet destined to crash in
    the ocean nearby ('They will make an entry into the sea devastating all'), giving the correct time of day as 'the second watch.' Notice the phrasing of line 3 -

    Dedans le poil entrera de Marseille

    The word 'poil' should mean hair, or 'bristle' - 'Seti' (the name of the Nepalese Gorge) in Latin also transliterates into 'bristle': so the French seer has acknowledged the unfortunate ultimate destination of Seti Gorge for the flight on the 15
    January 2023 Marseilles date.

    The final line of X.88 could regard the major cataclysm that shortly follows the crash into Seti Gorge -

    Pleurs, cris, et sang, onc nul temps si amer

    Tears, cries, and blood - never were times so bitter

    There is ambiguity whether the subject was still the plane disaster.

    *

    Trying to explain The Beatles' success as some evil aberration that had to involve some bargain with dark forces is a desperate and ignorant attempt to evade the true challenge posed by Jesus, which was to recognize the time of angelic visitation,
    and perceive what was being offered on a subliminal level, so that the Remembrance of Him could be the springboard to Salvation. As reiterated from Isaiah, merely seeing and hearing in the normal mode is an inadequate approach to attain the insights
    that would affect the required spiritual conversion.

    The Beatles returning from Hamburg received an unexpected reaction because the British crowds thought they were German, with the new sound developed from onstage performances. The screaming began later in Glasgow, but became the normal reaction
    at their concerts without any deliberate direction. From various interviews the group members conveyed a sense of hypocrisy in religious institutions, so that reprocessing the message of Christianity into a sound format could have been their test for
    society.

    The extraordinary popularity they enjoyed was met by McCartney-Lennon proclaiming they had discovered the 'formula' for writing hit songs, without elaborating that fans were likely to be experiencing transference, the subconscious messages
    inducing confusion between the story of Jesus, and the Foursome all attempting to retell it while projecting themselves as aspiring to be Christ-like. That is likely why there was no single 'Horseman' selected to represent Jesus riding into Jerusalem in
    the "Penny Lane" promotional film: all Four wanted to assume the Messianic role simultaneously, asserting their Faith collectively without self-explanatory fanfare.
    Numerous Lyons references could be applied to the recent plane crash in Nepal: IX.68 commences three consecutive related quatrains, as the first report of retrieved bodies was 68, with a 69th found in Seti River Monday evening, then the 70th at the
    crash site early Tuesday, before the final accounting was made to 72. There is an interesting transliteration in X.88 of 'poil' meaning 'bristle' (like hair) with Seti, which in Latin means 'bristle.'

    The 15 January 2023 Nepal plane crash being a Lyons event, as precursor for the cataclysm presumed for the 22 January 2023 Vienne date, skips over the 19 January 2023 case for Venus at the Nadir in Geneva. The 'Ulm' of VIII.34 being solved for the
    honoring of Blessed Henry Suso on 23 January is nearly conclusive, with a mention of Lyons preceding to reinforce the sequencing. About a week beyond Lyons is Vienne-Ulm. A new Rhodes date for V.16 would be 12 February 2023, for Venerable Meletios of
    Ypseni.

    The recent Juno Reign could still be the conditions for X.17, despite a subsequent Lilith Reign being terminated by the solar advance into Aquarius - a new Lilith Reign commences 21 January 2023 8:51 pm CET, which will end more than two weeks later
    when Vesta enters Aries 8 February 2023 5:44 am CET. No longer searching for the circumstances that have been previously observed (such as Corinth-Ephesus correlations from 2 November 2022 and 10 January 2023), the parameters have neatly narrowed, with
    some lines taken for real-world predictions rather than hints for the judicial astrology. So certain lines should be reapplied, with their placement in the jigsaw Time Puzzle becoming clearer towards the catastrophic onset.

    The New Moon occurs at 1 degree 32 minutes Aquarius 21 January 2023 9:53 pm CET, presenting the Sun and Moon together for the V.66 prelude to the 'glittering metals' incident.

    Venus at the Nadir for Geneva 22 January 2023 2:15 am CET has a chart with Pluto, the Sun and the Moon as a nearly equidistant grouping, without a definitively ominous appearance.

    A major transition occurs with the Venus-Saturn conjunct at 24 degrees 47 minutes Aquarius 22 January 2023 11:05 pm CET, since the celestial bodies become transposed: the next day, Saturn will reach the Nadir slightly ahead of Venus.

    Saturn at the Nadir for Geneva 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET is at the fulcrum point (24 degrees 48 minutes Aquarius) of an Inverted Grand Trine with conceptual points Fortune (25 degrees 36 minutes Libra) and the Vertex (21 degrees 58 minutes Gemini)
    . This 'Balance' impression also appears to be the Apocalyptic Cup or Urn, tipping towards the left as the Midheaven is skewed, forming the Crest of a Pediment with Fortune and the Vertex. In this way Venus very near Saturn is both debased at the Nadir (
    a minute later at 2:16 am CET), and perceived as receiving the Saturnin Cup.

    The critical time would be -

    << 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET / 22 January 2023 8:15 pm EST / 5:15 pm PST >>

    The Grand Trine and Pediment together present a Kite configuration, tipping leftward at the top; the fateful observation with Venus at the Nadir 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET had the Sun-Lilith-Neptune Inverted Grand Trine tipped towards the right
    at the top. In the 23 January 2023 case, a cylindrical form overlaps the Grand Trine, however it is broken: Ascendant (12.5 degrees Scorpio) sextile Mercury (9 degrees 23 minutes Capricorn) is somewhat weak; Mercury trine the Node (9 degrees 2 minutes
    Taurus) is strong; the Node is about six degrees from Ouranos (near 15 degrees Taurus), which is in a sextile aspect with Pallas (13 degrees 46 minutes Cancer); and Pallas is in a trine with the Ascendant - however the rectangular pattern being broken
    renders the form technically inconsequential.

    The 'Vesta sepulchral fire' phrasing from X.6 should regard its conjoining with Neptune 23 January 2023 8:11 pm CET - when Vesta and Neptune meet at 23 degrees 21 minutes Pisces, a clear rectangular form appears aligned horizontally in parallel
    with the Ecliptic: Fortune (7 degrees 37 minutes Leo) sextile Ceres (6 degrees 32 minutes Libra) trine the Vertex (in solar proximity at 5 degrees 7 minutes Aquarius), whose conceptual point is in a sextile aspect with the pairing of Juno-Jupiter (4.5 to
    5 degrees Aries), which is roughly in a trine with the Part of Fortune to complete the rectangular form. The Moon and Saturn-Venus will then be slightly below the Descendant.

    This horizontal Box suggests the rectangles previously observed were leading towards this coffin-like manifestation coinciding with the Vesta-Neptune conjunct, rather than representing 'Cylindrical Vessels.' The chronology of IV.58 implies the 18
    December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine as the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' and the Trinity concept being subverted for divine retribution via a particular Grand Trine was a hidden theme from V.18.

    Some January hagiological associations already made could be seen as valid in retrospect: 16 January as Lorraine via Saint Honoratus of Arles; the 19th as Lombardy via Saint Bassian - and Smyrna-Myrrh through Saint Germanicus for the Magi Gift
    Attack theme; the 21st as Gaul via Saint Patroclus; the 22nd as Vienne with Saint Paschasius; the 23rd as Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso.

    For 24 January, Saint Francis de Sales had a connection to Geneva.

    The Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 remains a mystery, possibly spotlighting Saint Paula for 26 January 2023 - born in Rome 347, and died in Bethlehem 404, she is the patroness of widows.

    Saint Thomas Aquinas with the 28 January feast could be inferred as a Toulouse date: he died 7 March 1274, but since that date fell within Lent the calendar was revised in 1969, using the 28 January 1369 date of his remains being placed in the
    Church of Jacobins, Toulouse; from 1789 to 1974 his remains were placed in the Basilique de Sant-Sernin, also in Toulouse, before being returned to the Church of Jacobins.

    The reference to Basil the Great in VI.78 has a potential tandem solution with V.83, the ecumenical rivalry with Saints John Chrysostom and Gregory the Theologian over which was greatest culminating in the 5 October 1084 dream of Saint John
    Mauropous whereby their spiritual solidarity was basis for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs instituted for 30 January, depicted by an iconic image with the three Church figures standing together, each reverently holding a Bible - 'the greatest at the
    table' recalled the divisive rivalry which had an esoteric solution. Because VI.78 presents the 30 January 2023 date as marking initial stages of a mass conversion, while V.83 has it instead as a confirmation point after three nights to warn of an
    unparalleled nation being subverted through fraud, the date is probably used as a dual-purpose aftermath checkpoint.

    Taking 12 February 2023 as the date when the Garabandal Miracle will first be witnessed leads to two timing theories: the only lunar conjunct that day is with the South Node (i.e., Tail of the Dragon) at 10:28 am CET; the placement of The Miracle
    was presumed for 13 May 2021 8:30 pm locally, coinciding with a Mercury lunar conjunct - if that evening timing is consistent, it suggests the 8:31 pm CET Sun-Vertex union, with Mars reaching Midheaven.

    *

    "When two greats saints meet,
    It is a humbling experience"
    The 23 January 2023 conjoining of Vesta and Neptune is their first union since their opposition during the 6 January 2021 Capitol insurrection.

    The lunar opposition-conjunction with the Vesta-Neptune opposition on 4 January 2021 was projected as the time for the enormous violence of X.61 at 'pike and fire'; also a schedule was developed demonstrating the long cycle for reigning of Saturn
    after its conjunction with Jupiter at the 2020 Winter Solstice until Mars entered a new sign on 6 January 2021, not realizing when calculated prior how closely that Mars Reign commencement would be synchronized with the arrival of the National Guard to
    quell the riot.

    Planetary reigning is an elusive concept, that tantalized the generation circa 1999 attempting to fathom X.72 while rejecting the requisite tools: 'Mars to reign beneficially, before and after' - but the in-between case, the Mars entry into Capricorn
    8 September 2001, delayed by retrograde since the previous instance fell on Valentine's Day 2001, initiated the period for the 9-11 attacks (and the subsequent Mars progression coincided with passage of the defensive Patriot Act).

    Obviously if a corollary to the Vesta-Neptune opposition were sought, the 23 January 2023 timing for their union would be ideal.

    Also Saturn appears featured in a different role than the reigning for the two revolts of I.54, with a conceptual Grand Trine at the Geneva Nadir, seeming to provide the igniting spark that is immediately transferred to debase Venus following at the
    Nadir with the engulfing conflagration. The Saturnin Grand Trine is oriented in mirror-image mockery of the Venus at Nadir chart 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, considered the 'Under The Balance' reference from V.42, skewed Left instead of Right to about
    the same angle.

    Thus those who had been included 'Under The Balance' could mean the Republican House majority being decided at the equivalent time of 16 November 2022 6:47 pm EST - 'The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid - By those whom Eagal observed
    included while Under The Balance': there is no compliant interpretation involving celestial bodies positioned at the Nadir then beyond Venus, such as Mercury. It does not seem purely political, since the great fear resembles the cataclysmic terror, yet
    the extreme faction could attempt to essentially extort massive cuts to entitlement programs, presumably to support further massive tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers, using the occasion of the necessary raising of the debt limit to endorse national
    solvency in contrast to default status.

    In this sense the 19 January 2023 date for Lombardy via Saint Bassian coincides with a preliminary date for this debt limit conflict, where the Republican House might have no members relenting, while the Democrats attempt to hold strong, a tactic
    that the Speaker found untenable. Paying for national debts already incurred becomes a bargaining point for those lacking real concern for the fate of the global economy, since even publicly questioning this obligation can have serve financial
    repercussions.

    There is a House member who said his mother died during the 9-11 attacks, while she applied for a visa in 2003 declaring not having been in the US since 1999. A New Mexico case involves a candidate accused on contesting his landslide loss by
    arranging sniper attacks on the homes of officials who would not agree to overturn the results in his favor. For some winning is not the main thing but the only thing, and the thirst for power to abuse can only perhaps be quenched by a full-fledged
    authoritarian nightmare.

    The Beatles created an aesthetic dream that regressed into the remembrance of Christ's Ministry for the "Penny Lane" triumphal entry into Jerusalem phase, however a forward tangent simultaneously rendered it an afterlife experience, haunting the
    beloved childhood place recently cleansed by rain; the images for the single sleeve featured pictures from their four respective infancies, so it was including George and Ringo with John and Paul in the single concept. Proper sequencing for the Christian
    story would put the associated Sgt Pepper album after "Strawberry Fields Forever," and before "Penny Lane."
    It should not be forgotten that double A-sided single with "Penny Lane" only reached the number two spot in the charts, indicating a let-down in popularity. Dick Clark showed a group of teenagers the two promotional films, to lukewarm reaction. The
    young fans did not care much about McCartney's scooter accident leading to the moustache decision, their new personas appeared off-brand and unfamiliar. While George Martin thought "Strawberry Fields Forever" was a fantastic new direction, a sort of mini-
    symphonic creation, the at-times lethargically slowed vocal and avant-garde treatment was received as kind of a weird departure.

    Interrogating the composers towards their divulging their intentions overtly is something they would likely deliberately avoid. To do so with subliminal melodic phrases would be an admission this method of communication actually failed, requiring the
    composer to detail the note-syllable conversion, ostensibly since it was done so badly no one could ever hear it as such without having it explicitly explained. Someone else having figured out the process for themselves would probably not be convincing
    to those feeling only the original source could be trusted, rather than their own ears and intellect. A close analogy would be a magician determined to keep his tricks secret, although in this case the listener is typically unaware there even has been
    any sort of trick played upon the subconscious.

    In the horn and trumpet portions of "Penny Lane" three synonymous terms are cleverly suggested at various points: 'vendors,' 'merchants,' and 'money-changers.'

    Providing the verbal phrases that correspond with the musical performances should eliminate doubt through the self-confirming authenticity of the experience itself, however accomplishing that for each tune is a major undertaking, and bringing up each
    case to be ignorantly dismissed would not achieve cultural enlightenment.

    As for another misunderstood esoteric source, the French seer's illumination of Revelation could have us very near a cataclysm of unprecedented proportions.

    Saturnin Interval Curtailed By Venus At Ulm With Impending Vestal Union [23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST]

    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi hammer attack; the Seoul Halloween crowd crush; the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting; the Griner-
    Bout prisoner exchange; the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt; the Brazilian copycat insurrection synchronized with the Mercury solar conjunct as predicted; and the plane crash in Nepal
    into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated, with a Marseilles hint for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast.

    The 23 January 2023 date corresponds with Ulm of VIII.34 for Blessed Henry Suso, when Saturn will have a very brief post-lunar-conjunct interval, curtailed by Venus: this is a potential debasement scenario, with a Saturnin event possibly occurring
    prior to the Moon meeting Venus.

    For Geneva, using CET on 23 January 2023:

    10:24 am - Saturn lunar conjunct at 24 degrees 50 minutes Aquarius;

    10:33 am - Fortune sextile Venus at 25 degrees 22 minutes - at this point a rectangle is again evident, which for cataclysmic onset would esoterically be the Cup or Cylindrical Vessel Urn, however in the chart it is oriented at a downward angle,
    beneath the Venus-Moon-Saturn grouping.

    Provincial physical notions of a drinking vessel may not apply: simply having the formation significantly placed for Venus could plausibly be the ancient prophetic intention. The rectangular image is composed with the Sun (3 degrees 5 minutes Aquarius),
    sextile the East Point (2 degrees Aries), trine Lilith (1 degree 39 minutes Leo), sextile the Vertex (1 degree 25 minutes Libra), trine the Sun to complete the form.

    11:19 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 25 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius - the horrific explosive event should have already occurred before this aspect transpires, so that the Saturnins could have endured the worst (V.24).

    A horizontally-oriented rectangular formation appears when Vesta and Neptune conjoin at 8:11 pm, with different composition: Fortune (7 minutes 37 degrees Leo), sextile Ceres (6 minutes 32 degrees Libra), trine Vertex (5 minutes 7 degrees Aquarius),
    sextile Juno-Jupiter (4 to 4.5 degrees Aries), trine Fortune to complete the form. This should be the time of the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6, although not necessarily its igniting moment.

    Both of the Corinth-Ephesus lines could be interpreted as simultaneously activated, since the Moon will be perplexity with Saturn and Venus in Aquarius, while Neptune is approaching its union with Vesta in Pisces, the other astrological 'sea.'

    The critical time for the test of the curtailed Saturnin lunar interval theory is when Venus has its Fortune aspect -

    << 23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST / 1:33 am PST >>

    The 30 January 2023 date is likely an aftermath, given the context of V.83 and VI.78 for Basil the Great reclaimed through the Three Holy Hierarchs: the 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET Ouranos lunar conjunct could relate to the second part of VI.70, with the
    Moon 'surpassing the Heavens.'

    The critical time now seems to be the Neptune lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 8:43 am CET progressing towards the Vesta lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 9:42 am CET: during that interval of nearly an hour, Saturn will rise at the Ascendant (9:04 am CET),
    followed by Venus (9:11 am CET).

    This timing provides another Corinth-Ephesus in perplexity (III.3) opportunity, after the Neptune lunar conjunct, with the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6 possibly manifesting by its subsequent lunar union.

    There is an imperfect Rectangular Form when Venus is at the Ascendant: East Point (11 degrees 18 minutes Pisces), sextile Mercury (10 degrees 49 minutes Capricorn), trine the Vertex (16 degrees 44 minutes Virgo - this outlier distorts the pattern),
    sextile Pallas (13 degrees 11 minutes Cancer), trine the East Point to complete the form.

    More ideal Rectangular Forms appear around 5:30 am CET during this cycle, involving the Sun, Juno, Ceres and the Vertex - however Venus does not seem significantly engaged at that time of day.

    There is a brief reign for Venus 27 January 2023 3:33 am CET to 28 January 2023 11:35 pm CET; Venus reaches the Geneva Nadir as Queen 28 January 2023 2:20 am CET, with the Moon then between Chiron and Ouranos. Despite an oblong box-like configuration (
    with Ceres, East Point, Jupiter and Mars) and an inexact solar Grand Trine (using the weak Ceres-Mars trine line), it does not appear ominous compared to the 25 January 2023 9:11 am CET (3:11 am EST / 12:11 am PST) situation, because Saturn and Vesta are
    not effectively participating.

    There is a Mars solar trine coinciding with Venus at the Nadir 30 January 2023 2:20 am CET; Ceres appears to extend the trine into a Grand version, although it is about three degrees off their correspondence. A rectangular form is there, yet the Moon is
    beyond Ouranos headed for Mars, which is not indicated for this forecast. The most recent precursor that can be clearly established was the Nepal plane crash with the 15 January Lyons feast for Saint Bonitus synchronization. Taking Vienne for 22 January
    and Ulm for the 23rd could provide insight into further events prior to the major world-changing double cataclysm, which still appears imminent.

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    [continued from previous message]

    The 15 January 2023 crash of the twin-engine ATR 72 aircraft into the Seti Gorge of Nepal, spinning out of control, going into a nosedive and breaking apart, with at least 68 aboard dead, has manifested as the Lyons event of various quatrains,
    which is a late-stage precursor to the now-imminent major cataclysm. The date corresponds with the feast for Saint Bonitus (623-706), who was made governor of Marseilles, and died in Lyons after a pilgrimage to Rome - the related quatrains appear to
    include I.72, II.83, III.79, VIII.34, IX.68, IX.69, IX.70, X.58, and X.88.

    Du tout Marseille des habitants changee
    Course et poursuite jusqu'aupres de Lyon

    Changed for all the inhabitants of Marseilles
    Flight and pursuit followed towards Lyons

    In I.72 Bonitus being appointed governor of Marseilles is suggested as in identifying fact; the word 'course' has been translated as 'flight' from Leoni's publication circa 1960, without intending to correlate with any airplane incident.
    Bonitus dying in Lyons is another factor establishing his feast day as fateful.

    The case in II.83 is more dubious, speaking of 'heavy traffic changed' at Lyons; the second portion seems to concern the Geneva catastrophe, with the Jura mountain range and 'Swiss drizzle,' with pillage by soldiers reminiscent of IX.68, where
    Lyons is invoked as the juncture of the Rhone and Saone rivers, where evil occurs. Line 3 of III.79 has the chain broken at the port of Marseilles. The mention of Lyons in VIII.34 is isolated, inferring its details are included elsewhere.

    Outre Lyon, Vien eux si grande grele

    Beyond Lyons, great hail upon them at Vienne

    The sequence in line 3 of IX.69 has the Lyons date preceding the Apocalyptic hail shortly following at Vienne: making 15 January Lyons via Saint Bonitus renders the 22 January date as Vienne via Saint Paschasius. The physical violence of the
    disaster appears linked with Vienne in line 3 of IX.70 -

    Ceux de Vienne seront trestous haches
    Those of Vienne will all be hacked apart

    The second half of X.58 features the Marseilles hint again:

    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Tenter Phossens au Ponant entretien

    Gaul to be shaken, to imperil the Bark
    Marseilles to be tried at the Western entreaty

    Gaul is now being presumed for 21 January 2023 via Saint Patroclus of Troyes; the Bark of Saint Peter is the Roman Catholic papacy. The Western entreaty implies some new effort to peacefully resolve the Russian invasion of Ukraine ongoing
    conflict, close to 15 January 2023.

    There seems to be a double prophecy in X.88, where the first half concerned the EgyptAir 990 crash of 31 October 1999, which also involved an aircraft broken in half (as 'Foot and Horse'), taking off from New York City yet destined to crash in
    the ocean nearby ('They will make an entry into the sea devastating all'), giving the correct time of day as 'the second watch.' Notice the phrasing of line 3 -

    Dedans le poil entrera de Marseille

    The word 'poil' should mean hair, or 'bristle' - 'Seti' (the name of the Nepalese Gorge) in Latin also transliterates into 'bristle': so the French seer has acknowledged the unfortunate ultimate destination of Seti Gorge for the flight on the
    15 January 2023 Marseilles date.

    The final line of X.88 could regard the major cataclysm that shortly follows the crash into Seti Gorge -

    Pleurs, cris, et sang, onc nul temps si amer

    Tears, cries, and blood - never were times so bitter

    There is ambiguity whether the subject was still the plane disaster.

    *

    Trying to explain The Beatles' success as some evil aberration that had to involve some bargain with dark forces is a desperate and ignorant attempt to evade the true challenge posed by Jesus, which was to recognize the time of angelic
    visitation, and perceive what was being offered on a subliminal level, so that the Remembrance of Him could be the springboard to Salvation. As reiterated from Isaiah, merely seeing and hearing in the normal mode is an inadequate approach to attain the
    insights that would affect the required spiritual conversion.

    The Beatles returning from Hamburg received an unexpected reaction because the British crowds thought they were German, with the new sound developed from onstage performances. The screaming began later in Glasgow, but became the normal reaction
    at their concerts without any deliberate direction. From various interviews the group members conveyed a sense of hypocrisy in religious institutions, so that reprocessing the message of Christianity into a sound format could have been their test for
    society.

    The extraordinary popularity they enjoyed was met by McCartney-Lennon proclaiming they had discovered the 'formula' for writing hit songs, without elaborating that fans were likely to be experiencing transference, the subconscious messages
    inducing confusion between the story of Jesus, and the Foursome all attempting to retell it while projecting themselves as aspiring to be Christ-like. That is likely why there was no single 'Horseman' selected to represent Jesus riding into Jerusalem in
    the "Penny Lane" promotional film: all Four wanted to assume the Messianic role simultaneously, asserting their Faith collectively without self-explanatory fanfare.
    Numerous Lyons references could be applied to the recent plane crash in Nepal: IX.68 commences three consecutive related quatrains, as the first report of retrieved bodies was 68, with a 69th found in Seti River Monday evening, then the 70th at
    the crash site early Tuesday, before the final accounting was made to 72. There is an interesting transliteration in X.88 of 'poil' meaning 'bristle' (like hair) with Seti, which in Latin means 'bristle.'

    The 15 January 2023 Nepal plane crash being a Lyons event, as precursor for the cataclysm presumed for the 22 January 2023 Vienne date, skips over the 19 January 2023 case for Venus at the Nadir in Geneva. The 'Ulm' of VIII.34 being solved for
    the honoring of Blessed Henry Suso on 23 January is nearly conclusive, with a mention of Lyons preceding to reinforce the sequencing. About a week beyond Lyons is Vienne-Ulm. A new Rhodes date for V.16 would be 12 February 2023, for Venerable Meletios of
    Ypseni.

    The recent Juno Reign could still be the conditions for X.17, despite a subsequent Lilith Reign being terminated by the solar advance into Aquarius - a new Lilith Reign commences 21 January 2023 8:51 pm CET, which will end more than two weeks
    later when Vesta enters Aries 8 February 2023 5:44 am CET. No longer searching for the circumstances that have been previously observed (such as Corinth-Ephesus correlations from 2 November 2022 and 10 January 2023), the parameters have neatly narrowed,
    with some lines taken for real-world predictions rather than hints for the judicial astrology. So certain lines should be reapplied, with their placement in the jigsaw Time Puzzle becoming clearer towards the catastrophic onset.

    The New Moon occurs at 1 degree 32 minutes Aquarius 21 January 2023 9:53 pm CET, presenting the Sun and Moon together for the V.66 prelude to the 'glittering metals' incident.

    Venus at the Nadir for Geneva 22 January 2023 2:15 am CET has a chart with Pluto, the Sun and the Moon as a nearly equidistant grouping, without a definitively ominous appearance.

    A major transition occurs with the Venus-Saturn conjunct at 24 degrees 47 minutes Aquarius 22 January 2023 11:05 pm CET, since the celestial bodies become transposed: the next day, Saturn will reach the Nadir slightly ahead of Venus.

    Saturn at the Nadir for Geneva 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET is at the fulcrum point (24 degrees 48 minutes Aquarius) of an Inverted Grand Trine with conceptual points Fortune (25 degrees 36 minutes Libra) and the Vertex (21 degrees 58 minutes
    Gemini). This 'Balance' impression also appears to be the Apocalyptic Cup or Urn, tipping towards the left as the Midheaven is skewed, forming the Crest of a Pediment with Fortune and the Vertex. In this way Venus very near Saturn is both debased at the
    Nadir (a minute later at 2:16 am CET), and perceived as receiving the Saturnin Cup.

    The critical time would be -

    << 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET / 22 January 2023 8:15 pm EST / 5:15 pm PST >>

    The Grand Trine and Pediment together present a Kite configuration, tipping leftward at the top; the fateful observation with Venus at the Nadir 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET had the Sun-Lilith-Neptune Inverted Grand Trine tipped towards the
    right at the top. In the 23 January 2023 case, a cylindrical form overlaps the Grand Trine, however it is broken: Ascendant (12.5 degrees Scorpio) sextile Mercury (9 degrees 23 minutes Capricorn) is somewhat weak; Mercury trine the Node (9 degrees 2
    minutes Taurus) is strong; the Node is about six degrees from Ouranos (near 15 degrees Taurus), which is in a sextile aspect with Pallas (13 degrees 46 minutes Cancer); and Pallas is in a trine with the Ascendant - however the rectangular pattern being
    broken renders the form technically inconsequential.

    The 'Vesta sepulchral fire' phrasing from X.6 should regard its conjoining with Neptune 23 January 2023 8:11 pm CET - when Vesta and Neptune meet at 23 degrees 21 minutes Pisces, a clear rectangular form appears aligned horizontally in parallel
    with the Ecliptic: Fortune (7 degrees 37 minutes Leo) sextile Ceres (6 degrees 32 minutes Libra) trine the Vertex (in solar proximity at 5 degrees 7 minutes Aquarius), whose conceptual point is in a sextile aspect with the pairing of Juno-Jupiter (4.5 to
    5 degrees Aries), which is roughly in a trine with the Part of Fortune to complete the rectangular form. The Moon and Saturn-Venus will then be slightly below the Descendant.

    This horizontal Box suggests the rectangles previously observed were leading towards this coffin-like manifestation coinciding with the Vesta-Neptune conjunct, rather than representing 'Cylindrical Vessels.' The chronology of IV.58 implies the 18
    December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine as the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' and the Trinity concept being subverted for divine retribution via a particular Grand Trine was a hidden theme from V.18.

    Some January hagiological associations already made could be seen as valid in retrospect: 16 January as Lorraine via Saint Honoratus of Arles; the 19th as Lombardy via Saint Bassian - and Smyrna-Myrrh through Saint Germanicus for the Magi Gift
    Attack theme; the 21st as Gaul via Saint Patroclus; the 22nd as Vienne with Saint Paschasius; the 23rd as Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso.

    For 24 January, Saint Francis de Sales had a connection to Geneva.

    The Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 remains a mystery, possibly spotlighting Saint Paula for 26 January 2023 - born in Rome 347, and died in Bethlehem 404, she is the patroness of widows.

    Saint Thomas Aquinas with the 28 January feast could be inferred as a Toulouse date: he died 7 March 1274, but since that date fell within Lent the calendar was revised in 1969, using the 28 January 1369 date of his remains being placed in the
    Church of Jacobins, Toulouse; from 1789 to 1974 his remains were placed in the Basilique de Sant-Sernin, also in Toulouse, before being returned to the Church of Jacobins.

    The reference to Basil the Great in VI.78 has a potential tandem solution with V.83, the ecumenical rivalry with Saints John Chrysostom and Gregory the Theologian over which was greatest culminating in the 5 October 1084 dream of Saint John
    Mauropous whereby their spiritual solidarity was basis for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs instituted for 30 January, depicted by an iconic image with the three Church figures standing together, each reverently holding a Bible - 'the greatest at the
    table' recalled the divisive rivalry which had an esoteric solution. Because VI.78 presents the 30 January 2023 date as marking initial stages of a mass conversion, while V.83 has it instead as a confirmation point after three nights to warn of an
    unparalleled nation being subverted through fraud, the date is probably used as a dual-purpose aftermath checkpoint.

    Taking 12 February 2023 as the date when the Garabandal Miracle will first be witnessed leads to two timing theories: the only lunar conjunct that day is with the South Node (i.e., Tail of the Dragon) at 10:28 am CET; the placement of The Miracle
    was presumed for 13 May 2021 8:30 pm locally, coinciding with a Mercury lunar conjunct - if that evening timing is consistent, it suggests the 8:31 pm CET Sun-Vertex union, with Mars reaching Midheaven.

    *

    "When two greats saints meet,
    It is a humbling experience"
    The 23 January 2023 conjoining of Vesta and Neptune is their first union since their opposition during the 6 January 2021 Capitol insurrection.

    The lunar opposition-conjunction with the Vesta-Neptune opposition on 4 January 2021 was projected as the time for the enormous violence of X.61 at 'pike and fire'; also a schedule was developed demonstrating the long cycle for reigning of Saturn
    after its conjunction with Jupiter at the 2020 Winter Solstice until Mars entered a new sign on 6 January 2021, not realizing when calculated prior how closely that Mars Reign commencement would be synchronized with the arrival of the National Guard to
    quell the riot.

    Planetary reigning is an elusive concept, that tantalized the generation circa 1999 attempting to fathom X.72 while rejecting the requisite tools: 'Mars to reign beneficially, before and after' - but the in-between case, the Mars entry into
    Capricorn 8 September 2001, delayed by retrograde since the previous instance fell on Valentine's Day 2001, initiated the period for the 9-11 attacks (and the subsequent Mars progression coincided with passage of the defensive Patriot Act).

    Obviously if a corollary to the Vesta-Neptune opposition were sought, the 23 January 2023 timing for their union would be ideal.

    Also Saturn appears featured in a different role than the reigning for the two revolts of I.54, with a conceptual Grand Trine at the Geneva Nadir, seeming to provide the igniting spark that is immediately transferred to debase Venus following at
    the Nadir with the engulfing conflagration. The Saturnin Grand Trine is oriented in mirror-image mockery of the Venus at Nadir chart 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, considered the 'Under The Balance' reference from V.42, skewed Left instead of Right to
    about the same angle.

    Thus those who had been included 'Under The Balance' could mean the Republican House majority being decided at the equivalent time of 16 November 2022 6:47 pm EST - 'The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid - By those whom Eagal observed
    included while Under The Balance': there is no compliant interpretation involving celestial bodies positioned at the Nadir then beyond Venus, such as Mercury. It does not seem purely political, since the great fear resembles the cataclysmic terror, yet
    the extreme faction could attempt to essentially extort massive cuts to entitlement programs, presumably to support further massive tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers, using the occasion of the necessary raising of the debt limit to endorse national
    solvency in contrast to default status.

    In this sense the 19 January 2023 date for Lombardy via Saint Bassian coincides with a preliminary date for this debt limit conflict, where the Republican House might have no members relenting, while the Democrats attempt to hold strong, a tactic
    that the Speaker found untenable. Paying for national debts already incurred becomes a bargaining point for those lacking real concern for the fate of the global economy, since even publicly questioning this obligation can have serve financial
    repercussions.

    There is a House member who said his mother died during the 9-11 attacks, while she applied for a visa in 2003 declaring not having been in the US since 1999. A New Mexico case involves a candidate accused on contesting his landslide loss by
    arranging sniper attacks on the homes of officials who would not agree to overturn the results in his favor. For some winning is not the main thing but the only thing, and the thirst for power to abuse can only perhaps be quenched by a full-fledged
    authoritarian nightmare.

    The Beatles created an aesthetic dream that regressed into the remembrance of Christ's Ministry for the "Penny Lane" triumphal entry into Jerusalem phase, however a forward tangent simultaneously rendered it an afterlife experience, haunting the
    beloved childhood place recently cleansed by rain; the images for the single sleeve featured pictures from their four respective infancies, so it was including George and Ringo with John and Paul in the single concept. Proper sequencing for the Christian
    story would put the associated Sgt Pepper album after "Strawberry Fields Forever," and before "Penny Lane."
    It should not be forgotten that double A-sided single with "Penny Lane" only reached the number two spot in the charts, indicating a let-down in popularity. Dick Clark showed a group of teenagers the two promotional films, to lukewarm reaction. The
    young fans did not care much about McCartney's scooter accident leading to the moustache decision, their new personas appeared off-brand and unfamiliar. While George Martin thought "Strawberry Fields Forever" was a fantastic new direction, a sort of mini-
    symphonic creation, the at-times lethargically slowed vocal and avant-garde treatment was received as kind of a weird departure.

    Interrogating the composers towards their divulging their intentions overtly is something they would likely deliberately avoid. To do so with subliminal melodic phrases would be an admission this method of communication actually failed, requiring the
    composer to detail the note-syllable conversion, ostensibly since it was done so badly no one could ever hear it as such without having it explicitly explained. Someone else having figured out the process for themselves would probably not be convincing
    to those feeling only the original source could be trusted, rather than their own ears and intellect. A close analogy would be a magician determined to keep his tricks secret, although in this case the listener is typically unaware there even has been
    any sort of trick played upon the subconscious.

    In the horn and trumpet portions of "Penny Lane" three synonymous terms are cleverly suggested at various points: 'vendors,' 'merchants,' and 'money-changers.'

    Providing the verbal phrases that correspond with the musical performances should eliminate doubt through the self-confirming authenticity of the experience itself, however accomplishing that for each tune is a major undertaking, and bringing up each
    case to be ignorantly dismissed would not achieve cultural enlightenment.

    As for another misunderstood esoteric source, the French seer's illumination of Revelation could have us very near a cataclysm of unprecedented proportions.

    Saturnin Interval Curtailed By Venus At Ulm With Impending Vestal Union [23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST]

    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi hammer attack; the Seoul Halloween crowd crush; the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting; the
    Griner-Bout prisoner exchange; the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt; the Brazilian copycat insurrection synchronized with the Mercury solar conjunct as predicted; and the plane crash in
    Nepal into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated, with a Marseilles hint for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast.

    The 23 January 2023 date corresponds with Ulm of VIII.34 for Blessed Henry Suso, when Saturn will have a very brief post-lunar-conjunct interval, curtailed by Venus: this is a potential debasement scenario, with a Saturnin event possibly occurring
    prior to the Moon meeting Venus.

    For Geneva, using CET on 23 January 2023:

    10:24 am - Saturn lunar conjunct at 24 degrees 50 minutes Aquarius;

    10:33 am - Fortune sextile Venus at 25 degrees 22 minutes - at this point a rectangle is again evident, which for cataclysmic onset would esoterically be the Cup or Cylindrical Vessel Urn, however in the chart it is oriented at a downward angle,
    beneath the Venus-Moon-Saturn grouping.

    Provincial physical notions of a drinking vessel may not apply: simply having the formation significantly placed for Venus could plausibly be the ancient prophetic intention. The rectangular image is composed with the Sun (3 degrees 5 minutes
    Aquarius), sextile the East Point (2 degrees Aries), trine Lilith (1 degree 39 minutes Leo), sextile the Vertex (1 degree 25 minutes Libra), trine the Sun to complete the form.

    11:19 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 25 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius - the horrific explosive event should have already occurred before this aspect transpires, so that the Saturnins could have endured the worst (V.24).

    A horizontally-oriented rectangular formation appears when Vesta and Neptune conjoin at 8:11 pm, with different composition: Fortune (7 minutes 37 degrees Leo), sextile Ceres (6 minutes 32 degrees Libra), trine Vertex (5 minutes 7 degrees Aquarius),
    sextile Juno-Jupiter (4 to 4.5 degrees Aries), trine Fortune to complete the form. This should be the time of the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6, although not necessarily its igniting moment.

    Both of the Corinth-Ephesus lines could be interpreted as simultaneously activated, since the Moon will be perplexity with Saturn and Venus in Aquarius, while Neptune is approaching its union with Vesta in Pisces, the other astrological 'sea.'

    The critical time for the test of the curtailed Saturnin lunar interval theory is when Venus has its Fortune aspect -

    << 23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST / 1:33 am PST >>
    The 30 January 2023 date is likely an aftermath, given the context of V.83 and VI.78 for Basil the Great reclaimed through the Three Holy Hierarchs: the 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET Ouranos lunar conjunct could relate to the second part of VI.70, with
    the Moon 'surpassing the Heavens.'

    The critical time now seems to be the Neptune lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 8:43 am CET progressing towards the Vesta lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 9:42 am CET: during that interval of nearly an hour, Saturn will rise at the Ascendant (9:04 am CET),
    followed by Venus (9:11 am CET).

    This timing provides another Corinth-Ephesus in perplexity (III.3) opportunity, after the Neptune lunar conjunct, with the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6 possibly manifesting by its subsequent lunar union.

    There is an imperfect Rectangular Form when Venus is at the Ascendant: East Point (11 degrees 18 minutes Pisces), sextile Mercury (10 degrees 49 minutes Capricorn), trine the Vertex (16 degrees 44 minutes Virgo - this outlier distorts the pattern),
    sextile Pallas (13 degrees 11 minutes Cancer), trine the East Point to complete the form.

    More ideal Rectangular Forms appear around 5:30 am CET during this cycle, involving the Sun, Juno, Ceres and the Vertex - however Venus does not seem significantly engaged at that time of day.

    There is a brief reign for Venus 27 January 2023 3:33 am CET to 28 January 2023 11:35 pm CET; Venus reaches the Geneva Nadir as Queen 28 January 2023 2:20 am CET, with the Moon then between Chiron and Ouranos. Despite an oblong box-like configuration (
    with Ceres, East Point, Jupiter and Mars) and an inexact solar Grand Trine (using the weak Ceres-Mars trine line), it does not appear ominous compared to the 25 January 2023 9:11 am CET (3:11 am EST / 12:11 am PST) situation, because Saturn and Vesta are
    not effectively participating.

    There is a Mars solar trine coinciding with Venus at the Nadir 30 January 2023 2:20 am CET; Ceres appears to extend the trine into a Grand version, although it is about three degrees off their correspondence. A rectangular form is there, yet the Moon
    is beyond Ouranos headed for Mars, which is not indicated for this forecast. The most recent precursor that can be clearly established was the Nepal plane crash with the 15 January Lyons feast for Saint Bonitus synchronization. Taking Vienne for 22
    January and Ulm for the 23rd could provide insight into further events prior to the major world-changing double cataclysm, which still appears imminent.

    The prophetic conundrum of the Cup filled with Divine Fury being given to Venus as Mystery Babylon could be solved by acknowledging a protracted Solar Grand Trine with Mars and Ceres noticeable over several days in late January 2023.

    The Great Urn of X.50 appears to be Solar Grand Trine with Ceres and Mars that will be of sustained duration, like the instance circa 16 November 2022 - that sort of triangular Cup configuration should also be a potential Mobile Sign for I.54, rotating
    over time in the chart orientation.

    Thus despite its technical imperfection, the persistence of the Triangular Form throughout the time of the cataclysmic disruption is the relevant factor.

    The first establishing milestone for this Urn is the Ceres solar trine at 6 degrees 45 minutes (in Libra for Ceres, Aquarius for the Sun) 27 January 2023 around 1 am CET.

    The second foundational aspect is the Mars solar trine at 9 degrees 52 minutes (with Mars in Gemini) 30 January 2023 at 2:19 am CET; Ceres then will be at 6 degrees 53 minutes Libra.

    So the Sun consummates its role in the Ceres-Mars Solar Grand Trine over a three-day interval.

    If Geneva's cataclysmic onset is early 25 January 2023, noting the calendar date a month beyond Christmas, Saint Paula with the 26 January feast could well be the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94, as patroness of widows.

    Therefore Venus does not have to be in proximity to or involved in a Grand Trine or Oblong Rectangle, merely rising at the Ascendant when the event onset transpires, while the Solar Grand Trine formation is ensuing long-term over several days.

    *

    John Lennon remarked those having an inkling of what The Beatles were doing might not believe their own serendipitous insightful perceptions, and consequently not pursue those thoughts, remaining oblivious to the overall endeavor. Paul McCartney
    commented if only one little thing was gleaned from one of their songs the point had been missed, since he was always trying to convey two things at once; John's controversial statements about Christianity may have been a mistake short-term, yet perhaps
    not in the long-term, Paul considered.

    Lennon had forecast the break-up of the group years before it happened, explaining they simply could not keep the franchise going by thinking up new things, like people thought they easily could - the collective band was never intended to continue
    indefinitely, but focused on the Christian story that inevitably had to be conclusively finished - in their case with the Annunciation story, since the entire epic was delivered in regressive stages through the cyclic album releases.

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    The mysterious Miracle, which can only be perceived after the unsettling collective Life-Review of The Preparation, should first be witnessed from

    << 23 January 2023 11:15 am CET / 5:15 am EST / 2:15 am PST >>

    Cause aviendra bien stupende et mirande
    Bien peu apres la terre tremblera

    Something quite stupendous and miraculous will arrive
    Very shortly after the world will have trembled

    [I.46]
    The 15 January 2023 crash of the twin-engine ATR 72 aircraft into the Seti Gorge of Nepal, spinning out of control, going into a nosedive and breaking apart, with at least 68 aboard dead, has manifested as the Lyons event of various quatrains,
    which is a late-stage precursor to the now-imminent major cataclysm. The date corresponds with the feast for Saint Bonitus (623-706), who was made governor of Marseilles, and died in Lyons after a pilgrimage to Rome - the related quatrains appear to
    include I.72, II.83, III.79, VIII.34, IX.68, IX.69, IX.70, X.58, and X.88.

    Du tout Marseille des habitants changee
    Course et poursuite jusqu'aupres de Lyon

    Changed for all the inhabitants of Marseilles
    Flight and pursuit followed towards Lyons

    In I.72 Bonitus being appointed governor of Marseilles is suggested as in identifying fact; the word 'course' has been translated as 'flight' from Leoni's publication circa 1960, without intending to correlate with any airplane incident.
    Bonitus dying in Lyons is another factor establishing his feast day as fateful.

    The case in II.83 is more dubious, speaking of 'heavy traffic changed' at Lyons; the second portion seems to concern the Geneva catastrophe, with the Jura mountain range and 'Swiss drizzle,' with pillage by soldiers reminiscent of IX.68,
    where Lyons is invoked as the juncture of the Rhone and Saone rivers, where evil occurs. Line 3 of III.79 has the chain broken at the port of Marseilles. The mention of Lyons in VIII.34 is isolated, inferring its details are included elsewhere.

    Outre Lyon, Vien eux si grande grele

    Beyond Lyons, great hail upon them at Vienne

    The sequence in line 3 of IX.69 has the Lyons date preceding the Apocalyptic hail shortly following at Vienne: making 15 January Lyons via Saint Bonitus renders the 22 January date as Vienne via Saint Paschasius. The physical violence of the
    disaster appears linked with Vienne in line 3 of IX.70 -

    Ceux de Vienne seront trestous haches
    Those of Vienne will all be hacked apart

    The second half of X.58 features the Marseilles hint again:

    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Tenter Phossens au Ponant entretien

    Gaul to be shaken, to imperil the Bark
    Marseilles to be tried at the Western entreaty

    Gaul is now being presumed for 21 January 2023 via Saint Patroclus of Troyes; the Bark of Saint Peter is the Roman Catholic papacy. The Western entreaty implies some new effort to peacefully resolve the Russian invasion of Ukraine ongoing
    conflict, close to 15 January 2023.

    There seems to be a double prophecy in X.88, where the first half concerned the EgyptAir 990 crash of 31 October 1999, which also involved an aircraft broken in half (as 'Foot and Horse'), taking off from New York City yet destined to crash
    in the ocean nearby ('They will make an entry into the sea devastating all'), giving the correct time of day as 'the second watch.' Notice the phrasing of line 3 -

    Dedans le poil entrera de Marseille

    The word 'poil' should mean hair, or 'bristle' - 'Seti' (the name of the Nepalese Gorge) in Latin also transliterates into 'bristle': so the French seer has acknowledged the unfortunate ultimate destination of Seti Gorge for the flight on the
    15 January 2023 Marseilles date.

    The final line of X.88 could regard the major cataclysm that shortly follows the crash into Seti Gorge -

    Pleurs, cris, et sang, onc nul temps si amer

    Tears, cries, and blood - never were times so bitter

    There is ambiguity whether the subject was still the plane disaster.

    *

    Trying to explain The Beatles' success as some evil aberration that had to involve some bargain with dark forces is a desperate and ignorant attempt to evade the true challenge posed by Jesus, which was to recognize the time of angelic
    visitation, and perceive what was being offered on a subliminal level, so that the Remembrance of Him could be the springboard to Salvation. As reiterated from Isaiah, merely seeing and hearing in the normal mode is an inadequate approach to attain the
    insights that would affect the required spiritual conversion.

    The Beatles returning from Hamburg received an unexpected reaction because the British crowds thought they were German, with the new sound developed from onstage performances. The screaming began later in Glasgow, but became the normal
    reaction at their concerts without any deliberate direction. From various interviews the group members conveyed a sense of hypocrisy in religious institutions, so that reprocessing the message of Christianity into a sound format could have been their
    test for society.

    The extraordinary popularity they enjoyed was met by McCartney-Lennon proclaiming they had discovered the 'formula' for writing hit songs, without elaborating that fans were likely to be experiencing transference, the subconscious messages
    inducing confusion between the story of Jesus, and the Foursome all attempting to retell it while projecting themselves as aspiring to be Christ-like. That is likely why there was no single 'Horseman' selected to represent Jesus riding into Jerusalem in
    the "Penny Lane" promotional film: all Four wanted to assume the Messianic role simultaneously, asserting their Faith collectively without self-explanatory fanfare.
    Numerous Lyons references could be applied to the recent plane crash in Nepal: IX.68 commences three consecutive related quatrains, as the first report of retrieved bodies was 68, with a 69th found in Seti River Monday evening, then the 70th at
    the crash site early Tuesday, before the final accounting was made to 72. There is an interesting transliteration in X.88 of 'poil' meaning 'bristle' (like hair) with Seti, which in Latin means 'bristle.'

    The 15 January 2023 Nepal plane crash being a Lyons event, as precursor for the cataclysm presumed for the 22 January 2023 Vienne date, skips over the 19 January 2023 case for Venus at the Nadir in Geneva. The 'Ulm' of VIII.34 being solved for
    the honoring of Blessed Henry Suso on 23 January is nearly conclusive, with a mention of Lyons preceding to reinforce the sequencing. About a week beyond Lyons is Vienne-Ulm. A new Rhodes date for V.16 would be 12 February 2023, for Venerable Meletios of
    Ypseni.

    The recent Juno Reign could still be the conditions for X.17, despite a subsequent Lilith Reign being terminated by the solar advance into Aquarius - a new Lilith Reign commences 21 January 2023 8:51 pm CET, which will end more than two weeks
    later when Vesta enters Aries 8 February 2023 5:44 am CET. No longer searching for the circumstances that have been previously observed (such as Corinth-Ephesus correlations from 2 November 2022 and 10 January 2023), the parameters have neatly narrowed,
    with some lines taken for real-world predictions rather than hints for the judicial astrology. So certain lines should be reapplied, with their placement in the jigsaw Time Puzzle becoming clearer towards the catastrophic onset.

    The New Moon occurs at 1 degree 32 minutes Aquarius 21 January 2023 9:53 pm CET, presenting the Sun and Moon together for the V.66 prelude to the 'glittering metals' incident.

    Venus at the Nadir for Geneva 22 January 2023 2:15 am CET has a chart with Pluto, the Sun and the Moon as a nearly equidistant grouping, without a definitively ominous appearance.

    A major transition occurs with the Venus-Saturn conjunct at 24 degrees 47 minutes Aquarius 22 January 2023 11:05 pm CET, since the celestial bodies become transposed: the next day, Saturn will reach the Nadir slightly ahead of Venus.

    Saturn at the Nadir for Geneva 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET is at the fulcrum point (24 degrees 48 minutes Aquarius) of an Inverted Grand Trine with conceptual points Fortune (25 degrees 36 minutes Libra) and the Vertex (21 degrees 58 minutes
    Gemini). This 'Balance' impression also appears to be the Apocalyptic Cup or Urn, tipping towards the left as the Midheaven is skewed, forming the Crest of a Pediment with Fortune and the Vertex. In this way Venus very near Saturn is both debased at the
    Nadir (a minute later at 2:16 am CET), and perceived as receiving the Saturnin Cup.

    The critical time would be -

    << 23 January 2023 2:15 am CET / 22 January 2023 8:15 pm EST / 5:15 pm PST >>

    The Grand Trine and Pediment together present a Kite configuration, tipping leftward at the top; the fateful observation with Venus at the Nadir 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET had the Sun-Lilith-Neptune Inverted Grand Trine tipped towards the
    right at the top. In the 23 January 2023 case, a cylindrical form overlaps the Grand Trine, however it is broken: Ascendant (12.5 degrees Scorpio) sextile Mercury (9 degrees 23 minutes Capricorn) is somewhat weak; Mercury trine the Node (9 degrees 2
    minutes Taurus) is strong; the Node is about six degrees from Ouranos (near 15 degrees Taurus), which is in a sextile aspect with Pallas (13 degrees 46 minutes Cancer); and Pallas is in a trine with the Ascendant - however the rectangular pattern being
    broken renders the form technically inconsequential.

    The 'Vesta sepulchral fire' phrasing from X.6 should regard its conjoining with Neptune 23 January 2023 8:11 pm CET - when Vesta and Neptune meet at 23 degrees 21 minutes Pisces, a clear rectangular form appears aligned horizontally in parallel
    with the Ecliptic: Fortune (7 degrees 37 minutes Leo) sextile Ceres (6 degrees 32 minutes Libra) trine the Vertex (in solar proximity at 5 degrees 7 minutes Aquarius), whose conceptual point is in a sextile aspect with the pairing of Juno-Jupiter (4.5 to
    5 degrees Aries), which is roughly in a trine with the Part of Fortune to complete the rectangular form. The Moon and Saturn-Venus will then be slightly below the Descendant.

    This horizontal Box suggests the rectangles previously observed were leading towards this coffin-like manifestation coinciding with the Vesta-Neptune conjunct, rather than representing 'Cylindrical Vessels.' The chronology of IV.58 implies the
    18 December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine as the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' and the Trinity concept being subverted for divine retribution via a particular Grand Trine was a hidden theme from V.18.

    Some January hagiological associations already made could be seen as valid in retrospect: 16 January as Lorraine via Saint Honoratus of Arles; the 19th as Lombardy via Saint Bassian - and Smyrna-Myrrh through Saint Germanicus for the Magi Gift
    Attack theme; the 21st as Gaul via Saint Patroclus; the 22nd as Vienne with Saint Paschasius; the 23rd as Ulm for Blessed Henry Suso.

    For 24 January, Saint Francis de Sales had a connection to Geneva.

    The Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 remains a mystery, possibly spotlighting Saint Paula for 26 January 2023 - born in Rome 347, and died in Bethlehem 404, she is the patroness of widows.

    Saint Thomas Aquinas with the 28 January feast could be inferred as a Toulouse date: he died 7 March 1274, but since that date fell within Lent the calendar was revised in 1969, using the 28 January 1369 date of his remains being placed in the
    Church of Jacobins, Toulouse; from 1789 to 1974 his remains were placed in the Basilique de Sant-Sernin, also in Toulouse, before being returned to the Church of Jacobins.

    The reference to Basil the Great in VI.78 has a potential tandem solution with V.83, the ecumenical rivalry with Saints John Chrysostom and Gregory the Theologian over which was greatest culminating in the 5 October 1084 dream of Saint John
    Mauropous whereby their spiritual solidarity was basis for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs instituted for 30 January, depicted by an iconic image with the three Church figures standing together, each reverently holding a Bible - 'the greatest at the
    table' recalled the divisive rivalry which had an esoteric solution. Because VI.78 presents the 30 January 2023 date as marking initial stages of a mass conversion, while V.83 has it instead as a confirmation point after three nights to warn of an
    unparalleled nation being subverted through fraud, the date is probably used as a dual-purpose aftermath checkpoint.

    Taking 12 February 2023 as the date when the Garabandal Miracle will first be witnessed leads to two timing theories: the only lunar conjunct that day is with the South Node (i.e., Tail of the Dragon) at 10:28 am CET; the placement of The
    Miracle was presumed for 13 May 2021 8:30 pm locally, coinciding with a Mercury lunar conjunct - if that evening timing is consistent, it suggests the 8:31 pm CET Sun-Vertex union, with Mars reaching Midheaven.

    *

    "When two greats saints meet,
    It is a humbling experience"
    The 23 January 2023 conjoining of Vesta and Neptune is their first union since their opposition during the 6 January 2021 Capitol insurrection.

    The lunar opposition-conjunction with the Vesta-Neptune opposition on 4 January 2021 was projected as the time for the enormous violence of X.61 at 'pike and fire'; also a schedule was developed demonstrating the long cycle for reigning of Saturn
    after its conjunction with Jupiter at the 2020 Winter Solstice until Mars entered a new sign on 6 January 2021, not realizing when calculated prior how closely that Mars Reign commencement would be synchronized with the arrival of the National Guard to
    quell the riot.

    Planetary reigning is an elusive concept, that tantalized the generation circa 1999 attempting to fathom X.72 while rejecting the requisite tools: 'Mars to reign beneficially, before and after' - but the in-between case, the Mars entry into
    Capricorn 8 September 2001, delayed by retrograde since the previous instance fell on Valentine's Day 2001, initiated the period for the 9-11 attacks (and the subsequent Mars progression coincided with passage of the defensive Patriot Act).

    Obviously if a corollary to the Vesta-Neptune opposition were sought, the 23 January 2023 timing for their union would be ideal.

    Also Saturn appears featured in a different role than the reigning for the two revolts of I.54, with a conceptual Grand Trine at the Geneva Nadir, seeming to provide the igniting spark that is immediately transferred to debase Venus following at
    the Nadir with the engulfing conflagration. The Saturnin Grand Trine is oriented in mirror-image mockery of the Venus at Nadir chart 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, considered the 'Under The Balance' reference from V.42, skewed Left instead of Right to
    about the same angle.

    Thus those who had been included 'Under The Balance' could mean the Republican House majority being decided at the equivalent time of 16 November 2022 6:47 pm EST - 'The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid - By those whom Eagal observed
    included while Under The Balance': there is no compliant interpretation involving celestial bodies positioned at the Nadir then beyond Venus, such as Mercury. It does not seem purely political, since the great fear resembles the cataclysmic terror, yet
    the extreme faction could attempt to essentially extort massive cuts to entitlement programs, presumably to support further massive tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers, using the occasion of the necessary raising of the debt limit to endorse national
    solvency in contrast to default status.

    In this sense the 19 January 2023 date for Lombardy via Saint Bassian coincides with a preliminary date for this debt limit conflict, where the Republican House might have no members relenting, while the Democrats attempt to hold strong, a tactic
    that the Speaker found untenable. Paying for national debts already incurred becomes a bargaining point for those lacking real concern for the fate of the global economy, since even publicly questioning this obligation can have serve financial
    repercussions.

    There is a House member who said his mother died during the 9-11 attacks, while she applied for a visa in 2003 declaring not having been in the US since 1999. A New Mexico case involves a candidate accused on contesting his landslide loss by
    arranging sniper attacks on the homes of officials who would not agree to overturn the results in his favor. For some winning is not the main thing but the only thing, and the thirst for power to abuse can only perhaps be quenched by a full-fledged
    authoritarian nightmare.

    The Beatles created an aesthetic dream that regressed into the remembrance of Christ's Ministry for the "Penny Lane" triumphal entry into Jerusalem phase, however a forward tangent simultaneously rendered it an afterlife experience, haunting the
    beloved childhood place recently cleansed by rain; the images for the single sleeve featured pictures from their four respective infancies, so it was including George and Ringo with John and Paul in the single concept. Proper sequencing for the Christian
    story would put the associated Sgt Pepper album after "Strawberry Fields Forever," and before "Penny Lane."
    It should not be forgotten that double A-sided single with "Penny Lane" only reached the number two spot in the charts, indicating a let-down in popularity. Dick Clark showed a group of teenagers the two promotional films, to lukewarm reaction. The
    young fans did not care much about McCartney's scooter accident leading to the moustache decision, their new personas appeared off-brand and unfamiliar. While George Martin thought "Strawberry Fields Forever" was a fantastic new direction, a sort of mini-
    symphonic creation, the at-times lethargically slowed vocal and avant-garde treatment was received as kind of a weird departure.

    Interrogating the composers towards their divulging their intentions overtly is something they would likely deliberately avoid. To do so with subliminal melodic phrases would be an admission this method of communication actually failed, requiring
    the composer to detail the note-syllable conversion, ostensibly since it was done so badly no one could ever hear it as such without having it explicitly explained. Someone else having figured out the process for themselves would probably not be
    convincing to those feeling only the original source could be trusted, rather than their own ears and intellect. A close analogy would be a magician determined to keep his tricks secret, although in this case the listener is typically unaware there even
    has been any sort of trick played upon the subconscious.

    In the horn and trumpet portions of "Penny Lane" three synonymous terms are cleverly suggested at various points: 'vendors,' 'merchants,' and 'money-changers.'

    Providing the verbal phrases that correspond with the musical performances should eliminate doubt through the self-confirming authenticity of the experience itself, however accomplishing that for each tune is a major undertaking, and bringing up
    each case to be ignorantly dismissed would not achieve cultural enlightenment.

    As for another misunderstood esoteric source, the French seer's illumination of Revelation could have us very near a cataclysm of unprecedented proportions.

    Saturnin Interval Curtailed By Venus At Ulm With Impending Vestal Union [23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST]

    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi hammer attack; the Seoul Halloween crowd crush; the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting; the
    Griner-Bout prisoner exchange; the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt; the Brazilian copycat insurrection synchronized with the Mercury solar conjunct as predicted; and the plane crash in
    Nepal into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated, with a Marseilles hint for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast.

    The 23 January 2023 date corresponds with Ulm of VIII.34 for Blessed Henry Suso, when Saturn will have a very brief post-lunar-conjunct interval, curtailed by Venus: this is a potential debasement scenario, with a Saturnin event possibly occurring
    prior to the Moon meeting Venus.

    For Geneva, using CET on 23 January 2023:

    10:24 am - Saturn lunar conjunct at 24 degrees 50 minutes Aquarius;

    10:33 am - Fortune sextile Venus at 25 degrees 22 minutes - at this point a rectangle is again evident, which for cataclysmic onset would esoterically be the Cup or Cylindrical Vessel Urn, however in the chart it is oriented at a downward angle,
    beneath the Venus-Moon-Saturn grouping.

    Provincial physical notions of a drinking vessel may not apply: simply having the formation significantly placed for Venus could plausibly be the ancient prophetic intention. The rectangular image is composed with the Sun (3 degrees 5 minutes
    Aquarius), sextile the East Point (2 degrees Aries), trine Lilith (1 degree 39 minutes Leo), sextile the Vertex (1 degree 25 minutes Libra), trine the Sun to complete the form.

    11:19 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 25 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius - the horrific explosive event should have already occurred before this aspect transpires, so that the Saturnins could have endured the worst (V.24).

    A horizontally-oriented rectangular formation appears when Vesta and Neptune conjoin at 8:11 pm, with different composition: Fortune (7 minutes 37 degrees Leo), sextile Ceres (6 minutes 32 degrees Libra), trine Vertex (5 minutes 7 degrees Aquarius),
    sextile Juno-Jupiter (4 to 4.5 degrees Aries), trine Fortune to complete the form. This should be the time of the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6, although not necessarily its igniting moment.

    Both of the Corinth-Ephesus lines could be interpreted as simultaneously activated, since the Moon will be perplexity with Saturn and Venus in Aquarius, while Neptune is approaching its union with Vesta in Pisces, the other astrological 'sea.'

    The critical time for the test of the curtailed Saturnin lunar interval theory is when Venus has its Fortune aspect -

    << 23 January 2023 10:33 am CET / 4:33 am EST / 1:33 am PST >>
    The 30 January 2023 date is likely an aftermath, given the context of V.83 and VI.78 for Basil the Great reclaimed through the Three Holy Hierarchs: the 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET Ouranos lunar conjunct could relate to the second part of VI.70, with
    the Moon 'surpassing the Heavens.'

    The critical time now seems to be the Neptune lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 8:43 am CET progressing towards the Vesta lunar conjunct 25 January 2023 9:42 am CET: during that interval of nearly an hour, Saturn will rise at the Ascendant (9:04 am CET),
    followed by Venus (9:11 am CET).

    This timing provides another Corinth-Ephesus in perplexity (III.3) opportunity, after the Neptune lunar conjunct, with the Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6 possibly manifesting by its subsequent lunar union.

    There is an imperfect Rectangular Form when Venus is at the Ascendant: East Point (11 degrees 18 minutes Pisces), sextile Mercury (10 degrees 49 minutes Capricorn), trine the Vertex (16 degrees 44 minutes Virgo - this outlier distorts the pattern),
    sextile Pallas (13 degrees 11 minutes Cancer), trine the East Point to complete the form.

    More ideal Rectangular Forms appear around 5:30 am CET during this cycle, involving the Sun, Juno, Ceres and the Vertex - however Venus does not seem significantly engaged at that time of day.

    There is a brief reign for Venus 27 January 2023 3:33 am CET to 28 January 2023 11:35 pm CET; Venus reaches the Geneva Nadir as Queen 28 January 2023 2:20 am CET, with the Moon then between Chiron and Ouranos. Despite an oblong box-like configuration
    (with Ceres, East Point, Jupiter and Mars) and an inexact solar Grand Trine (using the weak Ceres-Mars trine line), it does not appear ominous compared to the 25 January 2023 9:11 am CET (3:11 am EST / 12:11 am PST) situation, because Saturn and Vesta
    are not effectively participating.

    There is a Mars solar trine coinciding with Venus at the Nadir 30 January 2023 2:20 am CET; Ceres appears to extend the trine into a Grand version, although it is about three degrees off their correspondence. A rectangular form is there, yet the Moon
    is beyond Ouranos headed for Mars, which is not indicated for this forecast. The most recent precursor that can be clearly established was the Nepal plane crash with the 15 January Lyons feast for Saint Bonitus synchronization. Taking Vienne for 22
    January and Ulm for the 23rd could provide insight into further events prior to the major world-changing double cataclysm, which still appears imminent.
    The prophetic conundrum of the Cup filled with Divine Fury being given to Venus as Mystery Babylon could be solved by acknowledging a protracted Solar Grand Trine with Mars and Ceres noticeable over several days in late January 2023.

    The Great Urn of X.50 appears to be Solar Grand Trine with Ceres and Mars that will be of sustained duration, like the instance circa 16 November 2022 - that sort of triangular Cup configuration should also be a potential Mobile Sign for I.54, rotating
    over time in the chart orientation.

    Thus despite its technical imperfection, the persistence of the Triangular Form throughout the time of the cataclysmic disruption is the relevant factor.

    The first establishing milestone for this Urn is the Ceres solar trine at 6 degrees 45 minutes (in Libra for Ceres, Aquarius for the Sun) 27 January 2023 around 1 am CET.

    The second foundational aspect is the Mars solar trine at 9 degrees 52 minutes (with Mars in Gemini) 30 January 2023 at 2:19 am CET; Ceres then will be at 6 degrees 53 minutes Libra.


    Lennon had forecast the break-up of the group years before it happened, explaining they simply could not keep the franchise going by thinking up new things

    Re: Lennon predicting the Beatles' breakup, I believe you, but can I see the quote?

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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Sun Feb 5 13:26:02 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    The message behind V.65 would have seemed pointless without the current situation, Vesta sinks beneath the Ecliptic every day for all locales: however the final line invoking the fury of the Higher Powers renders the scene apocalyptic; and the second
    line indicates a cast of principal characters developed through integrating disjointed factoids, which perform their ominous respective tasks in a concealed mode, beneath the Ecliptic for the Geneva location provided in IX.44.

    *

    "I Wanna Be Your Man" <=> 'I Want Abeyant Man'

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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Sun Feb 5 21:48:10 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    8 pm - Venus slips out of sight at the Descendant;

    8:56 pm - Neptune drops at the Descendant;

    9:02 pm - Venus conjoined by Fortune - and the Leo Moon quincunx Vesta in Pisces completes the lunar course (aspect at 29 degrees 24 minutes), at nearly the same time Neptune has concluded its daily course across the celestial vault (possibly the
    perplexity between Corinth for Neptune and Ephesus for the Moon from III.3);

    9:26 pm - Vesta sinks at the Descendant, joined by the Vertex, in opposition with the East Point at the Ascendant.

    Since the worst happens for the Saturnins (V.24), and Saturn affects some change (IX.44), the critical time should be -

    << 6 February 2023 7:29 pm CET / 1:29 pm EST / 10:29 am PST >>

    Venus would be debased by the onset occurring during her descent towards the Ecliptic, as the ill-fated Evening Star.

    The quirk of the lunar course and Neptunian daily course ending in close synchronization is the sort of the coincidence the French seer might have found a useful marker.

    *

    'A
    *DIFFERENT*
    Turning...'

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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Mon Feb 6 12:41:07 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    The comparison of the planetary bucket configurations in May 2022 and April 2024 in V.23 has the trembling of the entire continent of Africa in line 3 with no timing cues, presumably intervening. The Young Empire of VIII.81 should be the US, perhaps
    affected by a change of magnetic north.

    The concept of V.65 complies with the theory of a specific celestial grouping falling in succession at the Descendant, by the phrasing of being concealed, and with Vesta as the Lady on coals character slipping out of view.

    For Geneva on 6 February 2023 using CET:

    5:42 pm - Dusk, Fortune leaps down from Saturn's position, above the Ecliptic, to the space below it;

    6:30 pm - Saturn falls at the Descendant, becoming visually 'concealed,' commencing the Saturnin interval;

    7:29 pm - The Part of Fortune conjunct unseen Saturn, in rough opposition with the Moon and East Point;

    8 pm - Venus slips out of sight at the Descendant;

    8:56 pm - Neptune drops at the Descendant;

    9:02 pm - Venus conjoined by Fortune - and the Leo Moon quincunx Vesta in Pisces completes the lunar course (aspect at 29 degrees 24 minutes), at nearly the same time Neptune has concluded its daily course across the celestial vault (possibly the
    perplexity between Corinth for Neptune and Ephesus for the Moon from III.3);

    9:26 pm - Vesta sinks at the Descendant, joined by the Vertex, in opposition with the East Point at the Ascendant.

    Since the worst happens for the Saturnins (V.24), and Saturn affects some change (IX.44), the critical time should be -

    << 6 February 2023 7:29 pm CET / 1:29 pm EST / 10:29 am PST >>

    Venus would be debased by the onset occurring during her descent towards the Ecliptic, as the ill-fated Evening Star.

    The quirk of the lunar course and Neptunian daily course ending in close synchronization is the sort of the coincidence the French seer might have found a useful marker.

    *

    'A
    *DIFFERENT*
    Turning...'

    The two powerful quakes striking Turkey and Syria about nine hours apart 6 February 2023, with building collapses and massive fatalities, both have charts with notable configurations. This tragic incident, like many recent events, also seems a precursor
    for the impending immense cataclysm, which could hold vital information merely by having manifested as described.

    The first quake with magnitude 7.8 occurring at 4:17 am local time arrived about five minutes after a prominent Grand Square formation: Pallas around 11 degrees Cancer; Juno past 11 degrees Aries; the East Point around 11 degrees Capricorn; and the
    Midheaven point past 12 degrees Libra.

    The chart for the second quake of 7.5 magnitude at 1:25 pm local time presented a Venusian Grand Trine: Venus at 12 degrees 9 minutes Pisces; Pallas around 11 degrees Cancer; and the Vertex at 11.5 degrees Scorpio (near the South Node).

    Two nephews of Saint Patrick have the 6 February feast, Mun and Melchu, which could collectively present the 'Great Nephew' of II.92, signifying the time for a massive taking of souls.

    The Gaul date for X.58 corresponds with Saint Chrysolius having a 7 February feast: an Armenian missionary, he became bishop in northeastern Gaul near Flanders; in 303, for refusing to sacrifice to pagan idols, imperial Romans beat him in the street,
    then sliced off the top of his head - Chrysolius retrieved his own severed skull fragment and walked away to die. His relics are venerated in Bruges.

    The ominous Lombardy date for V.42 and VI.16 appears to be 8 February 2023, referring to the feast of Saint Honoratus: when he was elected bishop of Milan in 567, the Arians disputed the result; the Lombard invasion compounded his problems, forcing him
    into exile, where he died in 570.

    Since the 6 February date corresponds with the 'Great Nephew' feasts for nephews of Saint Patrick, the quakes could be the fulfillment of II.92 line 3 of the associated great human murder; the first two lines would then regard some later more extensively-
    felt cataclysm, favoring the 8 February Lombard date via Saint Honoratus.

    The nephew theme also appears in III.29, where it is acknowledged as two events in slightly different places, and the associated 'elevated warfare' theme recalls the recent Chinese spy balloon incident; in IV.73 the great nephew could mark the test of a
    pact, perhaps the sham peace of VI.22.

    The brutal beating of Saint Chrysolius could be reconstructed with seven using a club in VI.82, where the 'Cyphe' means the Cup, Chalice or Goblet of divine wrath. His location of Flanders implying the feast day) is given in III.17, where the Aventine
    Hill of Rome will appear with a reddish glow.

    A nephew also in VIII.32, introducing the notion of a murder when Venus is 'making a vow,' which is being interpreted as a Grand Trine indication.

    There are two Nephews in VIII.43 - one of blood, another of fear: the first occupies the realm through two 'bastard things,' the strong quakes a few hours apart; the second, through the fear incident, folds his standard. The second Nephew suggests 15
    February 2023 via Saint Sigfrid, originally from Glastonbury: circa 1045 while on a mission at Vaexjoe, Sweden, his three nephews, Saints Winaman, Unaman and Sunaman were beheaded by pagan raiders. Sigfrid retrieved their severed heads, and claimed they
    could speak in death, inducing fear in the murderers. The chronology is for a modern event involving 'coups et dards.'

    The 8 February 2023 timing complies as the likely genuine date for the Geneva cataclysm, using CET:

    6:23 pm - Saturn at the Descendant, commencing the Saturnin phase;

    6:40 pm - Lunar Grand Trine with Midheaven, including Mercury about four degrees off;

    7:40 pm - Grand Trine with Ceres-Midheaven-Fortune from approximately 6.5 to 8 degrees in air signs - this could be the 'vow' made by Venus as she approaches the Ecliptic (VIII.32), a debasing condition for the evening star;

    8:05 pm - Venus at the Descendant;

    8:48 pm - Neptune at the Descendant, with the Moon rising simultaneously at the Ascendant due to their impending opposition - this is the most probable meaning for Corinth and Ephesus being in perplexity from III.3;

    9:23 pm - Vesta at the Descendant with the Vertex, concurrent with Saturn conjoined by the Part of Fortune;

    9:39 pm - Neptune lunar opposition.

    The critical time in this schedule should be the short-lived Grand Trine with Ceres -

    << 8 February 2023 7:40 pm CET / 1:40 pm EST / 10:40 am PST >>

    *

    Sera meurtri a Venus faisant voeu

    There will be murder at Venus making a vow

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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Sat Feb 11 08:43:50 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    The 11 February 12:57 am CET Grand Trine of Sun-Moon-Vertex from the Solar Nadir condition thus was eliminated by the No-Vertex rule from V.18, and this also excluded the subsequent 2:45 am CET Lilith-Ascendant-Fortune Grand Trine, for being in the same
    sequence. The 2:53 pm CET Lunar-Saturnin-East Point Grand Trine arriving without the cataclysmic onset thus complied with the falsifying Cup-Bearer of VI.89, prior to the genuine Chalice emptying its contents.

    Another Grand Trine occurs for Geneva shortly before Venus descends on 11 February 2023, using CET:

    6:14 pm - Saturn at Descendant - the theory from V.65 of successive settings for a principal cast of ominously featured celestial bodies is reinstated;

    7:48 pm - Grand Trine of East Point in Virgo, Node in Taurus, and Fortune in Capricorn, all around 8 degrees - this triangular formation of conceptual points (without the Vertex) manifests less than half an hour before the Venusian descent, as the
    critical time within the Saturnin interval -

    << 11 February 2023 7:48 pm CET / 1:48 pm EST / 10:48 am PST >>;

    8:13 pm - Venus at Descendant;

    8:37 pm - Neptune at Descendant;

    9 pm - Upright Grand Trine with Midheaven at vertical Apex, horizontal base formed between the Moon and Saturn - while the lunar participation nearly a degree into Scorpio is numerically inexact, the monumental effect in the chart is visually striking,
    and the East Point is settling at the Ascendant - this could be the perplexity of III.3 appearing after the Neptunian 'Corinth'- Ecliptic condition;

    9:09 pm - Ascendant conjunct East Point;

    9:13 pm - Vesta conjunct Vertex;

    9:18 pm - Vesta at Descendant.

    If this is the cataclysmic onset sequence, the V.18 hint about the modern conceptual Vertex point not being substantively involved holds true, since the Vesta-Vertex conjunct appears to conclude the phase without the Vertex participating in either the 7:
    48 pm or 9 pm CET versions of Grand Trines. The lady on coals no longer being seen, in addition to the principal characters becoming concealed by crossing the Ecliptic, suggests an atmospheric obscuring of the celestial Vault by the time of the Vestal
    descent, likely due to the V.16 flesh-incinerated smoke from the sepulchral fire of X.6, which should appear golden according to II.92.

    The 7:48 pm CET Grand Trine of East Point-Node-Fortune would be both Revelation's Cup of wrath, and the VIII.32 fateful vow for falling Venus; and the Cupbearer falsifying from VI.89 could be the 2:53 pm CET Lunar Saturnin-East Point Grand Trine, while
    Venus was in trine with the Ascendant, and Fortune conjoined Neptune.

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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Mon Feb 13 12:41:54 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    I could sense the sibling quakes of 6 February 2023, striking instead the Turkish border with Syria, as reflected in VI.82, 89, and II.92 line 3, would have a similar high death toll ultimately - and the same story of weakly designed structures has
    emerged. Rescue efforts could trigger avalanches of debris; miners were devising tunnels to assist those operations. The Turkish reference in IV.58 was for 7 December 2022 via hagiology, for timing of the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange. The Turkey-Syria
    border quakes comprise the first stage of the Nephew prophecy (via saintly nephews of Saint Patrick), for Blood, with the second Nephew stage through Fear emerging later.

    The first week of the year had the Speakership debacle foretold in the final line of II.92 using Saint Telemachus; the Mercury solar conjunct of 7 January 2023 attended the beating of Tyre Nichols for the Memphis incitement of X.79; the next day the
    Brasilia insurrection presented the flowering of Hercules' lies, and the people trapped from exiting the presidential palace from II.66. The Nepal plane crash on 15 January 2023 complied with the Lyons-Marseilles encoded event; the Half Moon Bay shooting
    was on the Ulm day of 23 January for Blessed Henry Suso as in VIII.34. Each quatrain case carries its own set of messages, with complex logical intersections.

    The Victor comparison between IV.95 and VI.70 recalls the Big Victor character played by Victor Mature in the 1968 group-ending film "Head" by The Monkees, when their television show had been cancelled, as an inside-joke mocking their RCA corporate
    taskmasters, continuing the extremely subtle pop culture theme that recently surfaced in the prophecies.

    https://www.neatorama.com/2012/02/16/head-the-monkees-strange-movie/

    The Magi Gift Attack theme for the cataclysmic onset in II.92 (fire color of Gold), V.16 (smoke like Frankincense), and VIII.34 (injury and tomb both calling for Myrrh) thus seems to co-exist for this apparent finale to the sequence.

    The 13 February 2023 2023 6:45 pm CET Grand Trine of Lilith-Vesta-Fortune was decidedly not 'Sans-Vertex' ('son vitrix') to satisfy the secret hint in V.18, since Mercury in opposition with triangle point Lilith was conspicuously conjoined by the Vertex:
    thus it could be the falsifying Cupbearer of VI.89, approaching the true Chalice of Divine Fury.

    The Vestal Reign will last until 18 February 2023, however the conditions for the descending celestial lineup being considered for Geneva will transition more quickly: as John Lennon explained of his famous group's demise, 'Wedding Bells are breaking up
    that old gang of mine.' First Venus and Neptune through their conjunction will effectively 'switch places' 15 February 2023 :30 pm CET; then the Sun will overtake Saturn 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET. These two changes alter the current compliance, as
    though backing the prophecy into a corner.

    A daily recurring Grand Trine involving the Midheaven point with Mercury and Ceres asserts itself on the evening of 14 February 2023, the Valentine's Day date corresponding with the 'fatherly amours' vexed in VI.89, on the final evening when the
    participants descending as V.65 suggests will have their ominous potential.

    For Geneva on 14 February 2023 using CET:

    5:55 pm - Dusk brings a jump of Fortune to about 26 degrees from the lunar position;

    6:04 pm - Saturn falling commences the fateful Saturnin interval;

    7:09 to 7:17 pm CET - Grand Trine of Mercury (4.5 degrees Aquarius) with Ceres (6.5 degrees Libra) and Midheaven (reaching 5.5 degrees Gemini 7:12 pm CET), the Vertex around 15 degrees Aquarius forms a weak trine with Mars in Gemini, and a weak sextile
    with Juno in Aries (so the Grand Trine does not seem significantly in an aspect with the Vertex), rendering the critical time -

    << 14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST / 10:12 am PST >>

    - while not yet overtaken by the skewed Nadir, the Moon then appears at the bottom of the chart;

    8:21 pm - Venus descends, presumably in the wake of the cataclysmic onset, thus being debased for X.28, with Fortune nearing the Moon;

    8:26 pm - Neptune at the Descendant simultaneous with the Part of Fortune reaching the Moon, thereby presenting the III.3 perplexity for Neptunian Corinth and lunar Ephesus;

    9:13 pm - Vesta reaching the Descendant is again in a rectangular formation with Mercury, Lilith, and the East Point, providing a visual fulfillment for the 'Vesta sepulchral fire' of X.6.

    The following evening a similar upright Grand Trine forms, yet it would be Neptune facing the debasing descent instead of Venus.

    The Saturn solar conjunct for Geneva 16 February 2023 will coincide with Dusk at 5:55 pm CET.

    The Vertex seems equally uninvolved with all three versions of the Midheaven-Mercury-Ceres Grand Trine on the three consecutive evenings 14 through 16 February 2023, yet only the Valentine's Day version bears the conditions given as ominous.

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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Tue Feb 14 10:31:38 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    The August 1999 Izmit quake was an early major event conjectured prior to occurrence, although the location being named in V.54 as Bisance for Byzantium was not integrated substantively into the awareness of the Cassini spacecraft gravity assist
    engaging during the Earth-flyby (the quake preceding by 20.5 hours) through cross-referencing a set of quatrains. The line of totality for the August 1999 solar eclipse during a Fixed Grand Cross was the transpiercing King in V.54, crossing the Black Sea
    and leaving Byzantium bloody. Also the final line of V.86 depicted the quake as Byzantium crushed by the head of Persia.

    I could sense the sibling quakes of 6 February 2023, striking instead the Turkish border with Syria, as reflected in VI.82, 89, and II.92 line 3, would have a similar high death toll ultimately - and the same story of weakly designed structures has
    emerged. Rescue efforts could trigger avalanches of debris; miners were devising tunnels to assist those operations. The Turkish reference in IV.58 was for 7 December 2022 via hagiology, for timing of the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange. The Turkey-Syria
    border quakes comprise the first stage of the Nephew prophecy (via saintly nephews of Saint Patrick), for Blood, with the second Nephew stage through Fear emerging later.

    The first week of the year had the Speakership debacle foretold in the final line of II.92 using Saint Telemachus; the Mercury solar conjunct of 7 January 2023 attended the beating of Tyre Nichols for the Memphis incitement of X.79; the next day the
    Brasilia insurrection presented the flowering of Hercules' lies, and the people trapped from exiting the presidential palace from II.66. The Nepal plane crash on 15 January 2023 complied with the Lyons-Marseilles encoded event; the Half Moon Bay shooting
    was on the Ulm day of 23 January for Blessed Henry Suso as in VIII.34. Each quatrain case carries its own set of messages, with complex logical intersections.

    The Victor comparison between IV.95 and VI.70 recalls the Big Victor character played by Victor Mature in the 1968 group-ending film "Head" by The Monkees, when their television show had been cancelled, as an inside-joke mocking their RCA corporate
    taskmasters, continuing the extremely subtle pop culture theme that recently surfaced in the prophecies.

    https://www.neatorama.com/2012/02/16/head-the-monkees-strange-movie/

    The Magi Gift Attack theme for the cataclysmic onset in II.92 (fire color of Gold), V.16 (smoke like Frankincense), and VIII.34 (injury and tomb both calling for Myrrh) thus seems to co-exist for this apparent finale to the sequence.

    The 13 February 2023 2023 6:45 pm CET Grand Trine of Lilith-Vesta-Fortune was decidedly not 'Sans-Vertex' ('son vitrix') to satisfy the secret hint in V.18, since Mercury in opposition with triangle point Lilith was conspicuously conjoined by the
    Vertex: thus it could be the falsifying Cupbearer of VI.89, approaching the true Chalice of Divine Fury.

    The Vestal Reign will last until 18 February 2023, however the conditions for the descending celestial lineup being considered for Geneva will transition more quickly: as John Lennon explained of his famous group's demise, 'Wedding Bells are breaking
    up that old gang of mine.' First Venus and Neptune through their conjunction will effectively 'switch places' 15 February 2023 :30 pm CET; then the Sun will overtake Saturn 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET. These two changes alter the current compliance, as
    though backing the prophecy into a corner.

    A daily recurring Grand Trine involving the Midheaven point with Mercury and Ceres asserts itself on the evening of 14 February 2023, the Valentine's Day date corresponding with the 'fatherly amours' vexed in VI.89, on the final evening when the
    participants descending as V.65 suggests will have their ominous potential.

    For Geneva on 14 February 2023 using CET:

    5:55 pm - Dusk brings a jump of Fortune to about 26 degrees from the lunar position;

    6:04 pm - Saturn falling commences the fateful Saturnin interval;

    7:09 to 7:17 pm CET - Grand Trine of Mercury (4.5 degrees Aquarius) with Ceres (6.5 degrees Libra) and Midheaven (reaching 5.5 degrees Gemini 7:12 pm CET), the Vertex around 15 degrees Aquarius forms a weak trine with Mars in Gemini, and a weak sextile
    with Juno in Aries (so the Grand Trine does not seem significantly in an aspect with the Vertex), rendering the critical time -

    << 14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST / 10:12 am PST >>

    - while not yet overtaken by the skewed Nadir, the Moon then appears at the bottom of the chart;

    8:21 pm - Venus descends, presumably in the wake of the cataclysmic onset, thus being debased for X.28, with Fortune nearing the Moon;

    8:26 pm - Neptune at the Descendant simultaneous with the Part of Fortune reaching the Moon, thereby presenting the III.3 perplexity for Neptunian Corinth and lunar Ephesus;

    9:13 pm - Vesta reaching the Descendant is again in a rectangular formation with Mercury, Lilith, and the East Point, providing a visual fulfillment for the 'Vesta sepulchral fire' of X.6.

    The following evening a similar upright Grand Trine forms, yet it would be Neptune facing the debasing descent instead of Venus.

    The Saturn solar conjunct for Geneva 16 February 2023 will coincide with Dusk at 5:55 pm CET.

    The Vertex seems equally uninvolved with all three versions of the Midheaven-Mercury-Ceres Grand Trine on the three consecutive evenings 14 through 16 February 2023, yet only the Valentine's Day version bears the conditions given as ominous.

    The currently-daily Midheaven Grand Trine with Mercury and Ceres was probably not intended for the activating Chalice, but the slightly later Grand Trine where Fortune in Sagittarius passes between the relative locations of Lilith past 4 degrees Leo and
    Vesta nearing 3 degrees Aries - that is an isolated triple correspondence in the Fire signs for Geneva 14 February 2023 7:49 pm to 7:55 pm CET [1:49 to 1:55 pm EST] omitted in error.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Tue Feb 14 12:17:50 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    8:30 pm - Neptune falls;

    9:15 pm - Vesta at the Descendant in a rectangular formation with the Ascendant, Lilith and Mercury (Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6);

    9:52 pm - Saturn lunar square.

    The perplexity in this application would regard the Neptune lunar trine, rather than Neptune falling local to Geneva; the next lunar aspect with the Sun as a square would be the prevalent condition for the glittering metals event, as in V.66.

    Both the Saturnin interval upon local descent and the subsequent Saturn lunar square could be the subjects of different lines, with context clarifying some ambiguity.
    Post-Vertex Saturnin Chalice To Vex Paternal Amours {14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST}

    The August 1999 Izmit quake was an early major event conjectured prior to occurrence, although the location being named in V.54 as Bisance for Byzantium was not integrated substantively into the awareness of the Cassini spacecraft gravity assist
    engaging during the Earth-flyby (the quake preceding by 20.5 hours) through cross-referencing a set of quatrains. The line of totality for the August 1999 solar eclipse during a Fixed Grand Cross was the transpiercing King in V.54, crossing the Black Sea
    and leaving Byzantium bloody. Also the final line of V.86 depicted the quake as Byzantium crushed by the head of Persia.

    I could sense the sibling quakes of 6 February 2023, striking instead the Turkish border with Syria, as reflected in VI.82, 89, and II.92 line 3, would have a similar high death toll ultimately - and the same story of weakly designed structures has
    emerged. Rescue efforts could trigger avalanches of debris; miners were devising tunnels to assist those operations. The Turkish reference in IV.58 was for 7 December 2022 via hagiology, for timing of the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange. The Turkey-Syria
    border quakes comprise the first stage of the Nephew prophecy (via saintly nephews of Saint Patrick), for Blood, with the second Nephew stage through Fear emerging later.

    The first week of the year had the Speakership debacle foretold in the final line of II.92 using Saint Telemachus; the Mercury solar conjunct of 7 January 2023 attended the beating of Tyre Nichols for the Memphis incitement of X.79; the next day the
    Brasilia insurrection presented the flowering of Hercules' lies, and the people trapped from exiting the presidential palace from II.66. The Nepal plane crash on 15 January 2023 complied with the Lyons-Marseilles encoded event; the Half Moon Bay shooting
    was on the Ulm day of 23 January for Blessed Henry Suso as in VIII.34. Each quatrain case carries its own set of messages, with complex logical intersections.

    The Victor comparison between IV.95 and VI.70 recalls the Big Victor character played by Victor Mature in the 1968 group-ending film "Head" by The Monkees, when their television show had been cancelled, as an inside-joke mocking their RCA corporate
    taskmasters, continuing the extremely subtle pop culture theme that recently surfaced in the prophecies.

    https://www.neatorama.com/2012/02/16/head-the-monkees-strange-movie/

    The Magi Gift Attack theme for the cataclysmic onset in II.92 (fire color of Gold), V.16 (smoke like Frankincense), and VIII.34 (injury and tomb both calling for Myrrh) thus seems to co-exist for this apparent finale to the sequence.

    The 13 February 2023 2023 6:45 pm CET Grand Trine of Lilith-Vesta-Fortune was decidedly not 'Sans-Vertex' ('son vitrix') to satisfy the secret hint in V.18, since Mercury in opposition with triangle point Lilith was conspicuously conjoined by the
    Vertex: thus it could be the falsifying Cupbearer of VI.89, approaching the true Chalice of Divine Fury.

    The Vestal Reign will last until 18 February 2023, however the conditions for the descending celestial lineup being considered for Geneva will transition more quickly: as John Lennon explained of his famous group's demise, 'Wedding Bells are breaking
    up that old gang of mine.' First Venus and Neptune through their conjunction will effectively 'switch places' 15 February 2023 :30 pm CET; then the Sun will overtake Saturn 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET. These two changes alter the current compliance, as
    though backing the prophecy into a corner.

    A daily recurring Grand Trine involving the Midheaven point with Mercury and Ceres asserts itself on the evening of 14 February 2023, the Valentine's Day date corresponding with the 'fatherly amours' vexed in VI.89, on the final evening when the
    participants descending as V.65 suggests will have their ominous potential.

    For Geneva on 14 February 2023 using CET:

    5:55 pm - Dusk brings a jump of Fortune to about 26 degrees from the lunar position;

    6:04 pm - Saturn falling commences the fateful Saturnin interval;

    7:09 to 7:17 pm CET - Grand Trine of Mercury (4.5 degrees Aquarius) with Ceres (6.5 degrees Libra) and Midheaven (reaching 5.5 degrees Gemini 7:12 pm CET), the Vertex around 15 degrees Aquarius forms a weak trine with Mars in Gemini, and a weak
    sextile with Juno in Aries (so the Grand Trine does not seem significantly in an aspect with the Vertex), rendering the critical time -

    << 14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST / 10:12 am PST >>

    - while not yet overtaken by the skewed Nadir, the Moon then appears at the bottom of the chart;

    8:21 pm - Venus descends, presumably in the wake of the cataclysmic onset, thus being debased for X.28, with Fortune nearing the Moon;

    8:26 pm - Neptune at the Descendant simultaneous with the Part of Fortune reaching the Moon, thereby presenting the III.3 perplexity for Neptunian Corinth and lunar Ephesus;

    9:13 pm - Vesta reaching the Descendant is again in a rectangular formation with Mercury, Lilith, and the East Point, providing a visual fulfillment for the 'Vesta sepulchral fire' of X.6.

    The following evening a similar upright Grand Trine forms, yet it would be Neptune facing the debasing descent instead of Venus.

    The Saturn solar conjunct for Geneva 16 February 2023 will coincide with Dusk at 5:55 pm CET.

    The Vertex seems equally uninvolved with all three versions of the Midheaven-Mercury-Ceres Grand Trine on the three consecutive evenings 14 through 16 February 2023, yet only the Valentine's Day version bears the conditions given as ominous.
    The currently-daily Midheaven Grand Trine with Mercury and Ceres was probably not intended for the activating Chalice, but the slightly later Grand Trine where Fortune in Sagittarius passes between the relative locations of Lilith past 4 degrees Leo
    and Vesta nearing 3 degrees Aries - that is an isolated triple correspondence in the Fire signs for Geneva 14 February 2023 7:49 pm to 7:55 pm CET [1:49 to 1:55 pm EST] omitted in error.

    Vestal Chalice For Venusian Nadir, Then Corinth & Ephesus Found In Axis {15 February 2023 2:33 am CET / 14 February 2023 8:33 pm EST / 5:33 pm PST}

    The requisite conditions in judicial astrology and emergent disastrous precursors have not failed in establishing an intricate trail towards an ultimate double cataclysm whose inevitability appears manifest - the cryptic veracity of the French prophecies
    allow some limited pre-event awareness, which should be refined, if only to facilitate post-mortem acknowledgement. Several major news events since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse have been featured as precursors, incorporating precise details beyond
    random happenings (the serial posting here should demonstrate some elaborations).

    The immense fatalities from the sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border 6 February 2023 occurred on the feast for two nephews of Saint Patrick, enacting II.92 line 3 - 'Great human murder, taken from the Great Nephew'; the situations in VI.82 and 89
    match, and a complicated comparison between this Nephew of Blood and a later Nephew emerging through Fear appears in the process of current fulfillment.

    Viewing the chart for Geneva's Venusian Nadir 15 February 2023 2:33 am CET showed yet another Grand Trine, then with the Ascendant joining Lilith and Vesta: since Venus is in the debasing Nadir position, this instance is particularly ominous.

    Also because Neptune is close to conjoining Venus, when it is at the Nadir two minutes later at 2:35 am CET, at the base of the skewed Prime Vertical, it complements at an oblique angle the Moon nearing opposition with Mars, with the two appearing
    aligned slightly off the Ecliptic. The Mars lunar opposition technically takes place later that morning at 3:05 am CET, yet the rough impression exists in the earlier charts.

    So two minutes after the potential Venusian debasement cataclysmic onset, Neptune and the Moon separately define a dual-axis correspondence for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity from III.3.

    Venus reaching the Nadir ends the Saturnin interval; and the Vestal Reign culminates in the fateful Grand Trine with Lilith and the Ascendant - it takes 'three to tango' in forming the Chalice.

    The Vertex around 16 degrees Cancer has no aspects involving or competing significantly with the transitory Chalice Grand Trine.

    The principal celestial bodies are then beneath the Ecliptic, excluding Mars near the Descendant: Ceres, Lilith and Pallas share the overhead Vault, compliant with V.65 stipulating Vesta herself would not be visible.

    Since the Ascendant is involved, the Grand Trine points towards the Left, rather than appearing like a Balance, or moving in rotation.

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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Wed Feb 15 07:46:37 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    6:39 to 6:48 pm - Grand Trine consisting of Lilith (4 degrees 3 minutes Leo), Vesta (2 degrees 26 minutes Aries), and the Part of Fortune (moving between both relative locations in Sagittarius, oriented at the bottom of the chart) - the fiery
    nature of Vesta and the Wind Succubus Lilith suggest this Chalice portends ill-Fortune;

    6:43 pm - Mercury conjoined by the Vertex, in rough opposition with Lilith, and Fortune sextile the Vertex - this extraneous Vertex activity outside the concurrent Grand Trine formation could satisfy V.18, for the critical time in the Saturnin
    interval -

    << 13 February 2023 6:43 pm CET / 12:43 pm EST / 9:43 am PST >>;

    8:19 pm - Venus falls at the Descendant, with Fortune at the Nadir;

    8:30 pm - Neptune falls;

    9:15 pm - Vesta at the Descendant in a rectangular formation with the Ascendant, Lilith and Mercury (Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6);

    9:52 pm - Saturn lunar square.

    The perplexity in this application would regard the Neptune lunar trine, rather than Neptune falling local to Geneva; the next lunar aspect with the Sun as a square would be the prevalent condition for the glittering metals event, as in V.66.

    Both the Saturnin interval upon local descent and the subsequent Saturn lunar square could be the subjects of different lines, with context clarifying some ambiguity.
    Post-Vertex Saturnin Chalice To Vex Paternal Amours {14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST}

    The August 1999 Izmit quake was an early major event conjectured prior to occurrence, although the location being named in V.54 as Bisance for Byzantium was not integrated substantively into the awareness of the Cassini spacecraft gravity assist
    engaging during the Earth-flyby (the quake preceding by 20.5 hours) through cross-referencing a set of quatrains. The line of totality for the August 1999 solar eclipse during a Fixed Grand Cross was the transpiercing King in V.54, crossing the Black Sea
    and leaving Byzantium bloody. Also the final line of V.86 depicted the quake as Byzantium crushed by the head of Persia.

    I could sense the sibling quakes of 6 February 2023, striking instead the Turkish border with Syria, as reflected in VI.82, 89, and II.92 line 3, would have a similar high death toll ultimately - and the same story of weakly designed structures has
    emerged. Rescue efforts could trigger avalanches of debris; miners were devising tunnels to assist those operations. The Turkish reference in IV.58 was for 7 December 2022 via hagiology, for timing of the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange. The Turkey-Syria
    border quakes comprise the first stage of the Nephew prophecy (via saintly nephews of Saint Patrick), for Blood, with the second Nephew stage through Fear emerging later.

    The first week of the year had the Speakership debacle foretold in the final line of II.92 using Saint Telemachus; the Mercury solar conjunct of 7 January 2023 attended the beating of Tyre Nichols for the Memphis incitement of X.79; the next day
    the Brasilia insurrection presented the flowering of Hercules' lies, and the people trapped from exiting the presidential palace from II.66. The Nepal plane crash on 15 January 2023 complied with the Lyons-Marseilles encoded event; the Half Moon Bay
    shooting was on the Ulm day of 23 January for Blessed Henry Suso as in VIII.34. Each quatrain case carries its own set of messages, with complex logical intersections.

    The Victor comparison between IV.95 and VI.70 recalls the Big Victor character played by Victor Mature in the 1968 group-ending film "Head" by The Monkees, when their television show had been cancelled, as an inside-joke mocking their RCA corporate
    taskmasters, continuing the extremely subtle pop culture theme that recently surfaced in the prophecies.

    https://www.neatorama.com/2012/02/16/head-the-monkees-strange-movie/

    The Magi Gift Attack theme for the cataclysmic onset in II.92 (fire color of Gold), V.16 (smoke like Frankincense), and VIII.34 (injury and tomb both calling for Myrrh) thus seems to co-exist for this apparent finale to the sequence.

    The 13 February 2023 2023 6:45 pm CET Grand Trine of Lilith-Vesta-Fortune was decidedly not 'Sans-Vertex' ('son vitrix') to satisfy the secret hint in V.18, since Mercury in opposition with triangle point Lilith was conspicuously conjoined by the
    Vertex: thus it could be the falsifying Cupbearer of VI.89, approaching the true Chalice of Divine Fury.

    The Vestal Reign will last until 18 February 2023, however the conditions for the descending celestial lineup being considered for Geneva will transition more quickly: as John Lennon explained of his famous group's demise, 'Wedding Bells are
    breaking up that old gang of mine.' First Venus and Neptune through their conjunction will effectively 'switch places' 15 February 2023 :30 pm CET; then the Sun will overtake Saturn 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET. These two changes alter the current
    compliance, as though backing the prophecy into a corner.

    A daily recurring Grand Trine involving the Midheaven point with Mercury and Ceres asserts itself on the evening of 14 February 2023, the Valentine's Day date corresponding with the 'fatherly amours' vexed in VI.89, on the final evening when the
    participants descending as V.65 suggests will have their ominous potential.

    For Geneva on 14 February 2023 using CET:

    5:55 pm - Dusk brings a jump of Fortune to about 26 degrees from the lunar position;

    6:04 pm - Saturn falling commences the fateful Saturnin interval;

    7:09 to 7:17 pm CET - Grand Trine of Mercury (4.5 degrees Aquarius) with Ceres (6.5 degrees Libra) and Midheaven (reaching 5.5 degrees Gemini 7:12 pm CET), the Vertex around 15 degrees Aquarius forms a weak trine with Mars in Gemini, and a weak
    sextile with Juno in Aries (so the Grand Trine does not seem significantly in an aspect with the Vertex), rendering the critical time -

    << 14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST / 10:12 am PST >>

    - while not yet overtaken by the skewed Nadir, the Moon then appears at the bottom of the chart;

    8:21 pm - Venus descends, presumably in the wake of the cataclysmic onset, thus being debased for X.28, with Fortune nearing the Moon;

    8:26 pm - Neptune at the Descendant simultaneous with the Part of Fortune reaching the Moon, thereby presenting the III.3 perplexity for Neptunian Corinth and lunar Ephesus;

    9:13 pm - Vesta reaching the Descendant is again in a rectangular formation with Mercury, Lilith, and the East Point, providing a visual fulfillment for the 'Vesta sepulchral fire' of X.6.

    The following evening a similar upright Grand Trine forms, yet it would be Neptune facing the debasing descent instead of Venus.

    The Saturn solar conjunct for Geneva 16 February 2023 will coincide with Dusk at 5:55 pm CET.

    The Vertex seems equally uninvolved with all three versions of the Midheaven-Mercury-Ceres Grand Trine on the three consecutive evenings 14 through 16 February 2023, yet only the Valentine's Day version bears the conditions given as ominous.
    The currently-daily Midheaven Grand Trine with Mercury and Ceres was probably not intended for the activating Chalice, but the slightly later Grand Trine where Fortune in Sagittarius passes between the relative locations of Lilith past 4 degrees Leo
    and Vesta nearing 3 degrees Aries - that is an isolated triple correspondence in the Fire signs for Geneva 14 February 2023 7:49 pm to 7:55 pm CET [1:49 to 1:55 pm EST] omitted in error.
    Vestal Chalice For Venusian Nadir, Then Corinth & Ephesus Found In Axis {15 February 2023 2:33 am CET / 14 February 2023 8:33 pm EST / 5:33 pm PST}

    The requisite conditions in judicial astrology and emergent disastrous precursors have not failed in establishing an intricate trail towards an ultimate double cataclysm whose inevitability appears manifest - the cryptic veracity of the French
    prophecies allow some limited pre-event awareness, which should be refined, if only to facilitate post-mortem acknowledgement. Several major news events since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse have been featured as precursors, incorporating precise
    details beyond random happenings (the serial posting here should demonstrate some elaborations).

    The immense fatalities from the sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border 6 February 2023 occurred on the feast for two nephews of Saint Patrick, enacting II.92 line 3 - 'Great human murder, taken from the Great Nephew'; the situations in VI.82 and
    89 match, and a complicated comparison between this Nephew of Blood and a later Nephew emerging through Fear appears in the process of current fulfillment.

    Viewing the chart for Geneva's Venusian Nadir 15 February 2023 2:33 am CET showed yet another Grand Trine, then with the Ascendant joining Lilith and Vesta: since Venus is in the debasing Nadir position, this instance is particularly ominous.

    Also because Neptune is close to conjoining Venus, when it is at the Nadir two minutes later at 2:35 am CET, at the base of the skewed Prime Vertical, it complements at an oblique angle the Moon nearing opposition with Mars, with the two appearing
    aligned slightly off the Ecliptic. The Mars lunar opposition technically takes place later that morning at 3:05 am CET, yet the rough impression exists in the earlier charts.

    So two minutes after the potential Venusian debasement cataclysmic onset, Neptune and the Moon separately define a dual-axis correspondence for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity from III.3.

    Venus reaching the Nadir ends the Saturnin interval; and the Vestal Reign culminates in the fateful Grand Trine with Lilith and the Ascendant - it takes 'three to tango' in forming the Chalice.

    The Vertex around 16 degrees Cancer has no aspects involving or competing significantly with the transitory Chalice Grand Trine.

    The principal celestial bodies are then beneath the Ecliptic, excluding Mars near the Descendant: Ceres, Lilith and Pallas share the overhead Vault, compliant with V.65 stipulating Vesta herself would not be visible.

    Since the Ascendant is involved, the Grand Trine points towards the Left, rather than appearing like a Balance, or moving in rotation.

    Saturnin Cup Debases Queen Venus In Lunar Temple [22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST]

    The temporal separation between the 6 February 2023 sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border and the cataclysmic onset is slightly more extensive than presumed, accepting the Vienne date as 22 February 2023 for Saint Paschasius, bishop of Vienne, who
    was granted supremacy over seven provinces by Pope Sylvester I circa 322. Two Lombardy dates are adjacent: Saint Peter Damian with a 21 February feast was legate to Milan for Pope Nicholas II circa 1059; and Blessed Anselm of Milan was a friar whose body
    was enshrined in the church of Santa Maria della Pace after his death in 1481.

    The Magi Gift Attack theme acquires the necessary date of a saint associated with myrrh via Saint Polycarp, bishop of Smyrna (the location known for myrrh), who was to be burned alive in a stadium circa 155, assuring his executioners there was no need to
    nail him to the pyre: from a witness account, "Like a ship's sail swirling in the wind, the flame became as it were a dome encircling the martyr's body. Surrounded by the fire, his body was like a bread that is baked, or gold and silver white-hot in a
    furnace, not like flesh that has been burnt. So sweet a fragrance came to us that it was like that of burning incense, or some other costly and sweet-smelling gum." So the saint associated with the Myrrh location set aflame exhibited the properties of
    the gummy substance, although Polycarp did not perish by the fire.

    Perceiving Polycarp to be unharmed, the execution proceeded using a dagger to stab him to death, then his corpse was burned.

    "'I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire'"
    {Revelation 3:18}

    Both Blessed Anselm of Milan and Saint Polycarp share the 23 February feast day.

    Other prophetic references become clear around these dates.

    The feast of the Chair of Saint Peter is 22 February, commemorating the founding of the See of Antioch; the Roman celebration also included 18 February. Both Masses include the same 'Collect': "O God, who, together with the power of the keys of the
    Kingdom of Heaven, didst bestow on blessed Peter Thy Apostle the pontificate of binding and loosing, grant that by the aid of his intersection we may be released from the yoke of our sins."

    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque

    Gaul to shake, the Bark to become imperiled

    Line 3 of X.58 could be presenting two references for 22 February 2023, Gaul and Vienne being for Saint Paschasius, and the Bark indicating not the current papacy at Rome, but the feast for the Chair of Saint Peter.

    About a hundred Grand Trines were examined from 16 to 25 February 2023, discovering some anomalies. A Double Grand Trine oriented like the Star of David was found for Geneva charts 17 February 2023, without the requisite ominous conditions; for the
    afternoon of 21 February 2023, Fortune and the Vertex moved in trine-alignment to form successive Grand Trines with several celestial bodies (the Moon, Neptune, Venus, Vesta, Jupiter, Chiron and Juno).

    The Part of Fortune is clearly hinted in II.66, and the Vertex (as near-anagram Vitrix) in V.18, where 'son vitrix' works translated as 'his Vertex' for Trinitarian co-founder Saint Felix of Valois. The suggestion from V.65 of principals in the affair
    being hidden could relate to the unseen conceptual points: Vesta as the lady on coals no longer being visible speaks to atmospheric changes rendering the overhead Vault obscured.

    The veil seemed lifted on the pivotal contribution of Saturn when it was realized the ringed planet was involved in only one Grand Trine during the interval examined - and it emerged as a variation on the post-Full Super Moon 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST
    condition compliant with IV.31, however no longer with the Moon near Saturn. The previous Saturnin Grand Trine was on the false-Midheaven Apex of the Eleventh House cusp: its base has Venus on one side, and the merging of Fortune and the Vertex on the
    other. The new Saturnin Grand Trine occurs 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET, with the base having the Vertex on one side, and Fortune on the other.

    Thus the lunar conjunctions could be separated for Neptune, presenting the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3, and the Vestal sepulchral fire of X.6: the Moon would be passing Venus for the catastrophe to debase her specifically.

    A Venusian Reign starts by entering Aries 20 February 2023 8:56 am CET, and ends when exceeding the relative location of Lilith, 24 February 2023 4:07 pm CET. Venus as Mystery Babylon from Revelation receives her Cup of divine wrath while sitting as
    Queen, rejecting The Great Mourning for Jesus Christ, while asserting (quite accurately of herself as representing modern culture) that she is no widow who might feel such emotional grief.

    The Neptune lunar conjunction occurs 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET at 24 degrees 17 minutes Pisces.

    For Geneva on 22 February 2023 using CET:

    10:26 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 2 degrees 32 minutes Aries;

    10:47 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Apex at false Midheaven on Eleventh House cusp (28 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius), base consisting of Fortune (28 degrees 44 minutes Gemini) and the Vertex (26 degrees 47 minutes Libra), and the East Point separately
    merged with the Node - this is the critical time for cataclysmic onset -

    << 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST / 1:47 am PST >>;

    12:07 pm - Pisces Sun and Aries Moon adjacent at 3 degrees 33 minutes - 'De Sol et Lune' ('With Sun and Moon') from V.66;

    4:52 pm - Vesta lunar conjunct at 6 degrees 24 minutes Aries.

    The final line of V.66 skips ahead to the hybrid solar eclipse of 20 April 2023, visible for Indonesia and Australia: the date coincides with the feast for Saint Servilian, a Trajan martyr beheaded in Rome circa 117.

    Ardente lampe Traian d'or burine

    Burning lamp engraved with Trajan gold

    *

    '...When He Entered
    Through The Gate
    Of Jerusalem..'

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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Thu Feb 16 14:45:17 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    A Lombardy feast recurrence should coincide: Saint Juventius, bishop of Pavia, is honored on 12 February; and Blessed Jordan of Saxony was prior-provincial of the Order of Preachers in Lombardy circa 1221 - in 1237 Jordan during a pilgrimage to
    the Holy Land drowned in a shipwreck off the coast of Syria - he has a feast on 13 February.

    For Geneva on 13 February 2023 using CET:

    1 am - Mercury exceeds the locational value of Vesta, thus commencing a Vestal Reign to last until the Sun enters Pisces (18 February 2023 11:35 pm CET);

    3:49 pm - Neptune lunar trine - a possible condition for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3;

    5:01 pm - Solar-Lunar square aspect - recalling 'Sol et Lune' from V.66;

    5:53 pm - Dusk brings a maximum jump for Fortune (II.66), from the top of the chart to the lunar position at the bottom;

    6:07 pm - Saturn falling commences the Saturnin interval;

    6:39 to 6:48 pm - Grand Trine consisting of Lilith (4 degrees 3 minutes Leo), Vesta (2 degrees 26 minutes Aries), and the Part of Fortune (moving between both relative locations in Sagittarius, oriented at the bottom of the chart) - the fiery
    nature of Vesta and the Wind Succubus Lilith suggest this Chalice portends ill-Fortune;

    6:43 pm - Mercury conjoined by the Vertex, in rough opposition with Lilith, and Fortune sextile the Vertex - this extraneous Vertex activity outside the concurrent Grand Trine formation could satisfy V.18, for the critical time in the Saturnin
    interval -

    << 13 February 2023 6:43 pm CET / 12:43 pm EST / 9:43 am PST >>;

    8:19 pm - Venus falls at the Descendant, with Fortune at the Nadir;

    8:30 pm - Neptune falls;

    9:15 pm - Vesta at the Descendant in a rectangular formation with the Ascendant, Lilith and Mercury (Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6);

    9:52 pm - Saturn lunar square.

    The perplexity in this application would regard the Neptune lunar trine, rather than Neptune falling local to Geneva; the next lunar aspect with the Sun as a square would be the prevalent condition for the glittering metals event, as in V.66.

    Both the Saturnin interval upon local descent and the subsequent Saturn lunar square could be the subjects of different lines, with context clarifying some ambiguity.
    Post-Vertex Saturnin Chalice To Vex Paternal Amours {14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST}

    The August 1999 Izmit quake was an early major event conjectured prior to occurrence, although the location being named in V.54 as Bisance for Byzantium was not integrated substantively into the awareness of the Cassini spacecraft gravity assist
    engaging during the Earth-flyby (the quake preceding by 20.5 hours) through cross-referencing a set of quatrains. The line of totality for the August 1999 solar eclipse during a Fixed Grand Cross was the transpiercing King in V.54, crossing the Black Sea
    and leaving Byzantium bloody. Also the final line of V.86 depicted the quake as Byzantium crushed by the head of Persia.

    I could sense the sibling quakes of 6 February 2023, striking instead the Turkish border with Syria, as reflected in VI.82, 89, and II.92 line 3, would have a similar high death toll ultimately - and the same story of weakly designed structures
    has emerged. Rescue efforts could trigger avalanches of debris; miners were devising tunnels to assist those operations. The Turkish reference in IV.58 was for 7 December 2022 via hagiology, for timing of the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange. The Turkey-
    Syria border quakes comprise the first stage of the Nephew prophecy (via saintly nephews of Saint Patrick), for Blood, with the second Nephew stage through Fear emerging later.

    The first week of the year had the Speakership debacle foretold in the final line of II.92 using Saint Telemachus; the Mercury solar conjunct of 7 January 2023 attended the beating of Tyre Nichols for the Memphis incitement of X.79; the next day
    the Brasilia insurrection presented the flowering of Hercules' lies, and the people trapped from exiting the presidential palace from II.66. The Nepal plane crash on 15 January 2023 complied with the Lyons-Marseilles encoded event; the Half Moon Bay
    shooting was on the Ulm day of 23 January for Blessed Henry Suso as in VIII.34. Each quatrain case carries its own set of messages, with complex logical intersections.

    The Victor comparison between IV.95 and VI.70 recalls the Big Victor character played by Victor Mature in the 1968 group-ending film "Head" by The Monkees, when their television show had been cancelled, as an inside-joke mocking their RCA
    corporate taskmasters, continuing the extremely subtle pop culture theme that recently surfaced in the prophecies.

    https://www.neatorama.com/2012/02/16/head-the-monkees-strange-movie/

    The Magi Gift Attack theme for the cataclysmic onset in II.92 (fire color of Gold), V.16 (smoke like Frankincense), and VIII.34 (injury and tomb both calling for Myrrh) thus seems to co-exist for this apparent finale to the sequence.

    The 13 February 2023 2023 6:45 pm CET Grand Trine of Lilith-Vesta-Fortune was decidedly not 'Sans-Vertex' ('son vitrix') to satisfy the secret hint in V.18, since Mercury in opposition with triangle point Lilith was conspicuously conjoined by the
    Vertex: thus it could be the falsifying Cupbearer of VI.89, approaching the true Chalice of Divine Fury.

    The Vestal Reign will last until 18 February 2023, however the conditions for the descending celestial lineup being considered for Geneva will transition more quickly: as John Lennon explained of his famous group's demise, 'Wedding Bells are
    breaking up that old gang of mine.' First Venus and Neptune through their conjunction will effectively 'switch places' 15 February 2023 :30 pm CET; then the Sun will overtake Saturn 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET. These two changes alter the current
    compliance, as though backing the prophecy into a corner.

    A daily recurring Grand Trine involving the Midheaven point with Mercury and Ceres asserts itself on the evening of 14 February 2023, the Valentine's Day date corresponding with the 'fatherly amours' vexed in VI.89, on the final evening when the
    participants descending as V.65 suggests will have their ominous potential.

    For Geneva on 14 February 2023 using CET:

    5:55 pm - Dusk brings a jump of Fortune to about 26 degrees from the lunar position;

    6:04 pm - Saturn falling commences the fateful Saturnin interval;

    7:09 to 7:17 pm CET - Grand Trine of Mercury (4.5 degrees Aquarius) with Ceres (6.5 degrees Libra) and Midheaven (reaching 5.5 degrees Gemini 7:12 pm CET), the Vertex around 15 degrees Aquarius forms a weak trine with Mars in Gemini, and a weak
    sextile with Juno in Aries (so the Grand Trine does not seem significantly in an aspect with the Vertex), rendering the critical time -

    << 14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST / 10:12 am PST >>

    - while not yet overtaken by the skewed Nadir, the Moon then appears at the bottom of the chart;

    8:21 pm - Venus descends, presumably in the wake of the cataclysmic onset, thus being debased for X.28, with Fortune nearing the Moon;

    8:26 pm - Neptune at the Descendant simultaneous with the Part of Fortune reaching the Moon, thereby presenting the III.3 perplexity for Neptunian Corinth and lunar Ephesus;

    9:13 pm - Vesta reaching the Descendant is again in a rectangular formation with Mercury, Lilith, and the East Point, providing a visual fulfillment for the 'Vesta sepulchral fire' of X.6.

    The following evening a similar upright Grand Trine forms, yet it would be Neptune facing the debasing descent instead of Venus.

    The Saturn solar conjunct for Geneva 16 February 2023 will coincide with Dusk at 5:55 pm CET.

    The Vertex seems equally uninvolved with all three versions of the Midheaven-Mercury-Ceres Grand Trine on the three consecutive evenings 14 through 16 February 2023, yet only the Valentine's Day version bears the conditions given as ominous.
    The currently-daily Midheaven Grand Trine with Mercury and Ceres was probably not intended for the activating Chalice, but the slightly later Grand Trine where Fortune in Sagittarius passes between the relative locations of Lilith past 4 degrees
    Leo and Vesta nearing 3 degrees Aries - that is an isolated triple correspondence in the Fire signs for Geneva 14 February 2023 7:49 pm to 7:55 pm CET [1:49 to 1:55 pm EST] omitted in error.
    Vestal Chalice For Venusian Nadir, Then Corinth & Ephesus Found In Axis {15 February 2023 2:33 am CET / 14 February 2023 8:33 pm EST / 5:33 pm PST}

    The requisite conditions in judicial astrology and emergent disastrous precursors have not failed in establishing an intricate trail towards an ultimate double cataclysm whose inevitability appears manifest - the cryptic veracity of the French
    prophecies allow some limited pre-event awareness, which should be refined, if only to facilitate post-mortem acknowledgement. Several major news events since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse have been featured as precursors, incorporating precise
    details beyond random happenings (the serial posting here should demonstrate some elaborations).

    The immense fatalities from the sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border 6 February 2023 occurred on the feast for two nephews of Saint Patrick, enacting II.92 line 3 - 'Great human murder, taken from the Great Nephew'; the situations in VI.82 and
    89 match, and a complicated comparison between this Nephew of Blood and a later Nephew emerging through Fear appears in the process of current fulfillment.

    Viewing the chart for Geneva's Venusian Nadir 15 February 2023 2:33 am CET showed yet another Grand Trine, then with the Ascendant joining Lilith and Vesta: since Venus is in the debasing Nadir position, this instance is particularly ominous.

    Also because Neptune is close to conjoining Venus, when it is at the Nadir two minutes later at 2:35 am CET, at the base of the skewed Prime Vertical, it complements at an oblique angle the Moon nearing opposition with Mars, with the two appearing
    aligned slightly off the Ecliptic. The Mars lunar opposition technically takes place later that morning at 3:05 am CET, yet the rough impression exists in the earlier charts.

    So two minutes after the potential Venusian debasement cataclysmic onset, Neptune and the Moon separately define a dual-axis correspondence for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity from III.3.

    Venus reaching the Nadir ends the Saturnin interval; and the Vestal Reign culminates in the fateful Grand Trine with Lilith and the Ascendant - it takes 'three to tango' in forming the Chalice.

    The Vertex around 16 degrees Cancer has no aspects involving or competing significantly with the transitory Chalice Grand Trine.

    The principal celestial bodies are then beneath the Ecliptic, excluding Mars near the Descendant: Ceres, Lilith and Pallas share the overhead Vault, compliant with V.65 stipulating Vesta herself would not be visible.

    Since the Ascendant is involved, the Grand Trine points towards the Left, rather than appearing like a Balance, or moving in rotation.
    Saturnin Cup Debases Queen Venus In Lunar Temple [22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST]

    The temporal separation between the 6 February 2023 sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border and the cataclysmic onset is slightly more extensive than presumed, accepting the Vienne date as 22 February 2023 for Saint Paschasius, bishop of Vienne,
    who was granted supremacy over seven provinces by Pope Sylvester I circa 322. Two Lombardy dates are adjacent: Saint Peter Damian with a 21 February feast was legate to Milan for Pope Nicholas II circa 1059; and Blessed Anselm of Milan was a friar whose
    body was enshrined in the church of Santa Maria della Pace after his death in 1481.

    The Magi Gift Attack theme acquires the necessary date of a saint associated with myrrh via Saint Polycarp, bishop of Smyrna (the location known for myrrh), who was to be burned alive in a stadium circa 155, assuring his executioners there was no need
    to nail him to the pyre: from a witness account, "Like a ship's sail swirling in the wind, the flame became as it were a dome encircling the martyr's body. Surrounded by the fire, his body was like a bread that is baked, or gold and silver white-hot in a
    furnace, not like flesh that has been burnt. So sweet a fragrance came to us that it was like that of burning incense, or some other costly and sweet-smelling gum." So the saint associated with the Myrrh location set aflame exhibited the properties of
    the gummy substance, although Polycarp did not perish by the fire.

    Perceiving Polycarp to be unharmed, the execution proceeded using a dagger to stab him to death, then his corpse was burned.

    "'I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire'"
    {Revelation 3:18}

    Both Blessed Anselm of Milan and Saint Polycarp share the 23 February feast day.

    Other prophetic references become clear around these dates.

    The feast of the Chair of Saint Peter is 22 February, commemorating the founding of the See of Antioch; the Roman celebration also included 18 February. Both Masses include the same 'Collect': "O God, who, together with the power of the keys of the
    Kingdom of Heaven, didst bestow on blessed Peter Thy Apostle the pontificate of binding and loosing, grant that by the aid of his intersection we may be released from the yoke of our sins."
    Gaule branler, pericliter la barque
    Gaul to shake, the Bark to become imperiled

    Line 3 of X.58 could be presenting two references for 22 February 2023, Gaul and Vienne being for Saint Paschasius, and the Bark indicating not the current papacy at Rome, but the feast for the Chair of Saint Peter.

    About a hundred Grand Trines were examined from 16 to 25 February 2023, discovering some anomalies. A Double Grand Trine oriented like the Star of David was found for Geneva charts 17 February 2023, without the requisite ominous conditions; for the
    afternoon of 21 February 2023, Fortune and the Vertex moved in trine-alignment to form successive Grand Trines with several celestial bodies (the Moon, Neptune, Venus, Vesta, Jupiter, Chiron and Juno).

    The Part of Fortune is clearly hinted in II.66, and the Vertex (as near-anagram Vitrix) in V.18, where 'son vitrix' works translated as 'his Vertex' for Trinitarian co-founder Saint Felix of Valois. The suggestion from V.65 of principals in the affair
    being hidden could relate to the unseen conceptual points: Vesta as the lady on coals no longer being visible speaks to atmospheric changes rendering the overhead Vault obscured.

    The veil seemed lifted on the pivotal contribution of Saturn when it was realized the ringed planet was involved in only one Grand Trine during the interval examined - and it emerged as a variation on the post-Full Super Moon 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST
    condition compliant with IV.31, however no longer with the Moon near Saturn. The previous Saturnin Grand Trine was on the false-Midheaven Apex of the Eleventh House cusp: its base has Venus on one side, and the merging of Fortune and the Vertex on the
    other. The new Saturnin Grand Trine occurs 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET, with the base having the Vertex on one side, and Fortune on the other.

    Thus the lunar conjunctions could be separated for Neptune, presenting the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3, and the Vestal sepulchral fire of X.6: the Moon would be passing Venus for the catastrophe to debase her specifically.

    A Venusian Reign starts by entering Aries 20 February 2023 8:56 am CET, and ends when exceeding the relative location of Lilith, 24 February 2023 4:07 pm CET. Venus as Mystery Babylon from Revelation receives her Cup of divine wrath while sitting as
    Queen, rejecting The Great Mourning for Jesus Christ, while asserting (quite accurately of herself as representing modern culture) that she is no widow who might feel such emotional grief.

    The Neptune lunar conjunction occurs 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET at 24 degrees 17 minutes Pisces.

    For Geneva on 22 February 2023 using CET:

    10:26 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 2 degrees 32 minutes Aries;

    10:47 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Apex at false Midheaven on Eleventh House cusp (28 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius), base consisting of Fortune (28 degrees 44 minutes Gemini) and the Vertex (26 degrees 47 minutes Libra), and the East Point separately
    merged with the Node - this is the critical time for cataclysmic onset -

    << 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST / 1:47 am PST >>;

    12:07 pm - Pisces Sun and Aries Moon adjacent at 3 degrees 33 minutes - 'De Sol et Lune' ('With Sun and Moon') from V.66;

    4:52 pm - Vesta lunar conjunct at 6 degrees 24 minutes Aries.

    The final line of V.66 skips ahead to the hybrid solar eclipse of 20 April 2023, visible for Indonesia and Australia: the date coincides with the feast for Saint Servilian, a Trajan martyr beheaded in Rome circa 117.
    Ardente lampe Traian d'or burine
    Burning lamp engraved with Trajan gold

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    '...When He Entered
    Through The Gate
    Of Jerusalem..'

    The ringed sports trophy in the foreground of the Sgt Pepper tableau cover image suggests planet Saturn in a warped way, perhaps disclosing intentional references to the Solar System: the jovial circus song aligned with Jupiter energy ending Side One was
    resumed with the long, slow sad song as George Harrison's compositional contribution, immersed in a saturnine tone that was supposedly relieved with deliberate laughter in the outro.

    The similarity of the two Geneva Saturnin Upright Grand Trines suggests the 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST post-Full Super Moon version (IV.31) was the falsifying Cupbearer from the final line of VI.89, with the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET variation
    presenting the Chalice that is drained: its orientation simultaneously recalls the Trinity and the Cup activated by being overturned or inverted.

    The 18 December 2022 Offspring Grand Trine matches the 'Chief pail of water, leading its son in spinning,' because it shifted immediately into a reconstituted version as Fortune proceeded, however this successive pair of Fortune Grand Trines was
    preceeded by the actual 'Chief Pail Of Water,' meaning a Saturnin Grand Trine. When Saturn passed Midheaven in Aquarius 4:22 pm CET, it was in a Grand Trine with the Libran Moon and the Ascendant in Gemini; the Offspring Successive Grand Trines followed
    around 5:35 pm and 6:05 pm CET respectively, as the 'son led in spinning.' The chronology was established by the final line setting the release of Griner as the female captive conducted to freedom through the prior 7 December 2022 association with
    Antioch via hagiology.

    Likewise the Surprise Grand Trine emerging when Fortune has its leap at Dusk 13 December 2022 4:45 pm CET as Saturnin, since Fortune was with Saturn at Midheaven before jumping to the position for a Saturnin-Ascendant-Fortune Grand Trine.

    Dans bois caches soldats jour de Lucie
    Qui ne fut onc si horrible trone

    Near the woods soldiers hidden on the day for Lucy
    For whom there never was so horrible a Throne

    The theme of IX.68 goes beyond mere potentiality in the 'hidden soldiers' as still-subterranean and intact immense magnets of the LHC, with the identifying image of the Black Forest proximity: this day appears designated for the Supreme Being Throne
    issuing the punishing order, that Queen Babylon, as Venus then-reigning, should have the cup she mixed for herself mixed double. The Fortune jump into the Surprise Grand Trine made a double for the simultaneous Grand Trine of Ceres and Pluto with the
    East Point. The Revelation passage has been illuminated so the actual date could be derived.

    The Saturnin Grand Trine was established as the major instrument of Divine Fury for the cataclysm through its prior variant forms.

    The Mobile sign of I.54 was a Solar Grand Trine featured for its Geneva Venusian Nadir resembling a tipping Balance on the Sun-Fulcrum 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET, time-equivalent for the US House chamber being announced for the Republican majority,
    whose extreme goals and tactics would prove alarming when the debt-ceiling limit later fell on the feast for a Lombard saint, as reflected in V.42.

    The Lombard reference in VI.16 is Apocalyptic, with heavenly angels carrying out the dark task, intending to infuse commentary on the Tavern shooting at another Lombard feast date, by staging the primary fiery event at the Black Forest place with another
    Lombard association. This manifestation provides potentially double meaning for V.42, with terror for Lombard folk under the Balance, not being tipped but overthrown.

    So the 22 February 2023 return to the Upright Grand Trine form with Saturn at the Vertical-Apex Eleventh House cusp, from that same discovery for 16 July 2022, is especially ominous.

    The lines that refer to lunar conjunctions in the cataclysmic sequence can be identified, with temple implications.

    Corinth, Ephese lors en perplexite

    Corinth, Ephesus then in perplexity

    [III.3, Neptune lunar conjunct 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET]

    Sera meurtri a Venus faisant voeu

    Will be murdered at Venus making a vow

    [VIII.32, Venus lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 10:26 am CET]

    Vesta sepulcre feu eteint apparaitre

    Vesta sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear

    [X.6, Vesta lunar conjunct 22 February 2023 4:52 pm CET]

    Conversely, the Saturnin clues seem to relate primarily to the activating version of the critical 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Vertex, with those enduring its effects being dubbed 'The Saturnins.'

    Les Saturnins brules par les meuniers

    The Saturnins burned by the millers

    [VI.17]

    Par Saturnins endurera le pire

    The worst will be endured by the Saturnins

    [V.24]

    Saturne d'or en fer se changera

    Saturn with gold will convert itself into sword

    A major difference in the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine from the 16 July 2022 version is that Saturn is near the Sun instead of the Moon; Saturn's solar conjunct occurred 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET (noting match with V.42
    enumeration), for the golden factor that designates destructive manifestation.

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