i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 9:11:37 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?
sense of discernment and made him susceptible to predators like Alex Mardas, Yoko Ono, and Allen Klein.--I suspect that John's "eating acid like candy" was more conducive to the Beatles' breakup than his later heroin addiction. The constant LSD use (John's life had become a "continuous acid trip," according to his close friend Pete Shotton) destroyed his
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.
John's song "Tomorrow Never Knows" is famously inspired by "The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead" by Ralph Metzner and Timothy Leary, and in 1969 John became personally acquainted with Leary.brain needs intervals in which to recover between trips.
I wish Lennon had met Timothy Leary earlier, and discussed LSD use with him. John's biographer Albert Goldman says that he consulted Leary about the effects of constant tripping -- and that Leary said that one should not use the drug that way; the
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 4:05:30 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 9:11:37 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?
his sense of discernment and made him susceptible to predators like Alex Mardas, Yoko Ono, and Allen Klein.--I suspect that John's "eating acid like candy" was more conducive to the Beatles' breakup than his later heroin addiction. The constant LSD use (John's life had become a "continuous acid trip," according to his close friend Pete Shotton) destroyed
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.
brain needs intervals in which to recover between trips.John's song "Tomorrow Never Knows" is famously inspired by "The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead" by Ralph Metzner and Timothy Leary, and in 1969 John became personally acquainted with Leary.
I wish Lennon had met Timothy Leary earlier, and discussed LSD use with him. John's biographer Albert Goldman says that he consulted Leary about the effects of constant tripping -- and that Leary said that one should not use the drug that way; the
What I meant to imply is that, if Lennon had been moderate in his LSD use, he might have kept his wits about him and not fallen for the likes of Mardas, Ono, and Klein. The Beatles likely would have lasted longer.I agree. However, it is possible that John was also being given toxic substances of some sort without his knowledge or permission...
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 7:16:13 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 4:05:30 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 9:11:37 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?
his sense of discernment and made him susceptible to predators like Alex Mardas, Yoko Ono, and Allen Klein.--I suspect that John's "eating acid like candy" was more conducive to the Beatles' breakup than his later heroin addiction. The constant LSD use (John's life had become a "continuous acid trip," according to his close friend Pete Shotton) destroyed
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
brain needs intervals in which to recover between trips.John's song "Tomorrow Never Knows" is famously inspired by "The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead" by Ralph Metzner and Timothy Leary, and in 1969 John became personally acquainted with Leary.
I wish Lennon had met Timothy Leary earlier, and discussed LSD use with him. John's biographer Albert Goldman says that he consulted Leary about the effects of constant tripping -- and that Leary said that one should not use the drug that way; the
What I meant to imply is that, if Lennon had been moderate in his LSD use, he might have kept his wits about him and not fallen for the likes of Mardas, Ono, and Klein. The Beatles likely would have lasted longer.I agree. However, it is possible that John was also being given toxic substances of some sort without his knowledge or permission...
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 4:21:31 AM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 7:16:13 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 4:05:30 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 9:11:37 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?
destroyed his sense of discernment and made him susceptible to predators like Alex Mardas, Yoko Ono, and Allen Klein.--I suspect that John's "eating acid like candy" was more conducive to the Beatles' breakup than his later heroin addiction. The constant LSD use (John's life had become a "continuous acid trip," according to his close friend Pete Shotton)
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
the brain needs intervals in which to recover between trips.John's song "Tomorrow Never Knows" is famously inspired by "The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead" by Ralph Metzner and Timothy Leary, and in 1969 John became personally acquainted with Leary.
I wish Lennon had met Timothy Leary earlier, and discussed LSD use with him. John's biographer Albert Goldman says that he consulted Leary about the effects of constant tripping -- and that Leary said that one should not use the drug that way;
What I meant to imply is that, if Lennon had been moderate in his LSD use, he might have kept his wits about him and not fallen for the likes of Mardas, Ono, and Klein. The Beatles likely would have lasted longer.I agree. However, it is possible that John was also being given toxic substances of some sort without his knowledge or permission...
Yes. The first time John, George, Cynthia and Patti were given acid, it was without their consent -- which was spectacularly unethical on the part of the guy who dosed them. LSD in particular is not for everybody.
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 4:21:31 AM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 7:16:13 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 4:05:30 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 9:11:37 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?
destroyed his sense of discernment and made him susceptible to predators like Alex Mardas, Yoko Ono, and Allen Klein.--I suspect that John's "eating acid like candy" was more conducive to the Beatles' breakup than his later heroin addiction. The constant LSD use (John's life had become a "continuous acid trip," according to his close friend Pete Shotton)
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
the brain needs intervals in which to recover between trips.John's song "Tomorrow Never Knows" is famously inspired by "The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead" by Ralph Metzner and Timothy Leary, and in 1969 John became personally acquainted with Leary.
I wish Lennon had met Timothy Leary earlier, and discussed LSD use with him. John's biographer Albert Goldman says that he consulted Leary about the effects of constant tripping -- and that Leary said that one should not use the drug that way;
I would not be surprised to discover that John had been given substances without his knowledge or consent incrementally, over a long period of time, by someone close to him, whom he would not expect. Not only did this add to his distress, but it kept himYes. The first time John, George, Cynthia and Patti were given acid, it was without their consent -- which was spectacularly unethical on the part of the guy who dosed them. LSD in particular is not for everybody.What I meant to imply is that, if Lennon had been moderate in his LSD use, he might have kept his wits about him and not fallen for the likes of Mardas, Ono, and Klein. The Beatles likely would have lasted longer.I agree. However, it is possible that John was also being given toxic substances of some sort without his knowledge or permission...
Norbert K wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 4:21:31 AM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 7:16:13 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 4:05:30 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 9:11:37 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?
destroyed his sense of discernment and made him susceptible to predators like Alex Mardas, Yoko Ono, and Allen Klein.--I suspect that John's "eating acid like candy" was more conducive to the Beatles' breakup than his later heroin addiction. The constant LSD use (John's life had become a "continuous acid trip," according to his close friend Pete Shotton)
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
the brain needs intervals in which to recover between trips.John's song "Tomorrow Never Knows" is famously inspired by "The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead" by Ralph Metzner and Timothy Leary, and in 1969 John became personally acquainted with Leary.
I wish Lennon had met Timothy Leary earlier, and discussed LSD use with him. John's biographer Albert Goldman says that he consulted Leary about the effects of constant tripping -- and that Leary said that one should not use the drug that way;
What I meant to imply is that, if Lennon had been moderate in his LSD use, he might have kept his wits about him and not fallen for the likes of Mardas, Ono, and Klein. The Beatles likely would have lasted longer.I agree. However, it is possible that John was also being given toxic substances of some sort without his knowledge or permission...
Yes. The first time John, George, Cynthia and Patti were given acid, it was without their consent -- which was spectacularly unethical on the part of the guy who dosed them. LSD in particular is not for everybody.
LSD and Heroin are two different things.
Norbert K wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 4:21:31 AM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 7:16:13 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 4:05:30 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 9:11:37 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?
destroyed his sense of discernment and made him susceptible to predators like Alex Mardas, Yoko Ono, and Allen Klein.--I suspect that John's "eating acid like candy" was more conducive to the Beatles' breakup than his later heroin addiction. The constant LSD use (John's life had become a "continuous acid trip," according to his close friend Pete Shotton)
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
the brain needs intervals in which to recover between trips.John's song "Tomorrow Never Knows" is famously inspired by "The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead" by Ralph Metzner and Timothy Leary, and in 1969 John became personally acquainted with Leary.
I wish Lennon had met Timothy Leary earlier, and discussed LSD use with him. John's biographer Albert Goldman says that he consulted Leary about the effects of constant tripping -- and that Leary said that one should not use the drug that way;
What I meant to imply is that, if Lennon had been moderate in his LSD use, he might have kept his wits about him and not fallen for the likes of Mardas, Ono, and Klein. The Beatles likely would have lasted longer.I agree. However, it is possible that John was also being given toxic substances of some sort without his knowledge or permission...
Yes. The first time John, George, Cynthia and Patti were given acid, it was without their consent -- which was spectacularly unethical on the part of the guy who dosed them. LSD in particular is not for everybody.LSD and Heroin are two different things.
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 7:20:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 4:21:31 AM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 7:16:13 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 4:05:30 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 9:11:37 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?
destroyed his sense of discernment and made him susceptible to predators like Alex Mardas, Yoko Ono, and Allen Klein.--I suspect that John's "eating acid like candy" was more conducive to the Beatles' breakup than his later heroin addiction. The constant LSD use (John's life had become a "continuous acid trip," according to his close friend Pete Shotton)
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
the brain needs intervals in which to recover between trips.John's song "Tomorrow Never Knows" is famously inspired by "The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead" by Ralph Metzner and Timothy Leary, and in 1969 John became personally acquainted with Leary.
I wish Lennon had met Timothy Leary earlier, and discussed LSD use with him. John's biographer Albert Goldman says that he consulted Leary about the effects of constant tripping -- and that Leary said that one should not use the drug that way;
him compliant...I would not be surprised to discover that John had been given substances without his knowledge or consent incrementally, over a long period of time, by someone close to him, whom he would not expect. Not only did this add to his distress, but it keptYes. The first time John, George, Cynthia and Patti were given acid, it was without their consent -- which was spectacularly unethical on the part of the guy who dosed them. LSD in particular is not for everybody.What I meant to imply is that, if Lennon had been moderate in his LSD use, he might have kept his wits about him and not fallen for the likes of Mardas, Ono, and Klein. The Beatles likely would have lasted longer.I agree. However, it is possible that John was also being given toxic substances of some sort without his knowledge or permission...
On Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 11:46:44 AM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 7:20:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 4:21:31 AM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 7:16:13 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 4:05:30 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 9:11:37 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?
destroyed his sense of discernment and made him susceptible to predators like Alex Mardas, Yoko Ono, and Allen Klein.--I suspect that John's "eating acid like candy" was more conducive to the Beatles' breakup than his later heroin addiction. The constant LSD use (John's life had become a "continuous acid trip," according to his close friend Pete Shotton)
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
the brain needs intervals in which to recover between trips.John's song "Tomorrow Never Knows" is famously inspired by "The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead" by Ralph Metzner and Timothy Leary, and in 1969 John became personally acquainted with Leary.
I wish Lennon had met Timothy Leary earlier, and discussed LSD use with him. John's biographer Albert Goldman says that he consulted Leary about the effects of constant tripping -- and that Leary said that one should not use the drug that way;
him compliant...I would not be surprised to discover that John had been given substances without his knowledge or consent incrementally, over a long period of time, by someone close to him, whom he would not expect. Not only did this add to his distress, but it keptYes. The first time John, George, Cynthia and Patti were given acid, it was without their consent -- which was spectacularly unethical on the part of the guy who dosed them. LSD in particular is not for everybody.What I meant to imply is that, if Lennon had been moderate in his LSD use, he might have kept his wits about him and not fallen for the likes of Mardas, Ono, and Klein. The Beatles likely would have lasted longer.I agree. However, it is possible that John was also being given toxic substances of some sort without his knowledge or permission...
Have you read May Pang's first book, Pamela?I didn't get too far...will try again...I have mixed feelings about May, because she was, in effect, working for Yoko...
On Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 4:44:11 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 11:46:44 AM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 7:20:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 4:21:31 AM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 7:16:13 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 4:05:30 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 9:11:37 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?
destroyed his sense of discernment and made him susceptible to predators like Alex Mardas, Yoko Ono, and Allen Klein.--I suspect that John's "eating acid like candy" was more conducive to the Beatles' breakup than his later heroin addiction. The constant LSD use (John's life had become a "continuous acid trip," according to his close friend Pete Shotton)
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
way; the brain needs intervals in which to recover between trips.John's song "Tomorrow Never Knows" is famously inspired by "The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead" by Ralph Metzner and Timothy Leary, and in 1969 John became personally acquainted with Leary.
I wish Lennon had met Timothy Leary earlier, and discussed LSD use with him. John's biographer Albert Goldman says that he consulted Leary about the effects of constant tripping -- and that Leary said that one should not use the drug that
kept him compliant...I would not be surprised to discover that John had been given substances without his knowledge or consent incrementally, over a long period of time, by someone close to him, whom he would not expect. Not only did this add to his distress, but itYes. The first time John, George, Cynthia and Patti were given acid, it was without their consent -- which was spectacularly unethical on the part of the guy who dosed them. LSD in particular is not for everybody.What I meant to imply is that, if Lennon had been moderate in his LSD use, he might have kept his wits about him and not fallen for the likes of Mardas, Ono, and Klein. The Beatles likely would have lasted longer.I agree. However, it is possible that John was also being given toxic substances of some sort without his knowledge or permission...
Have you read May Pang's first book, Pamela?I didn't get too far...will try again...I have mixed feelings about May, because she was, in effect, working for Yoko...
On Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 7:10:26 PM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 4:44:11 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 11:46:44 AM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 7:20:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 4:21:31 AM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 7:16:13 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 4:05:30 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 9:11:37 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?
destroyed his sense of discernment and made him susceptible to predators like Alex Mardas, Yoko Ono, and Allen Klein.--I suspect that John's "eating acid like candy" was more conducive to the Beatles' breakup than his later heroin addiction. The constant LSD use (John's life had become a "continuous acid trip," according to his close friend Pete Shotton)
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
way; the brain needs intervals in which to recover between trips.John's song "Tomorrow Never Knows" is famously inspired by "The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead" by Ralph Metzner and Timothy Leary, and in 1969 John became personally acquainted with Leary.
I wish Lennon had met Timothy Leary earlier, and discussed LSD use with him. John's biographer Albert Goldman says that he consulted Leary about the effects of constant tripping -- and that Leary said that one should not use the drug that
kept him compliant...I would not be surprised to discover that John had been given substances without his knowledge or consent incrementally, over a long period of time, by someone close to him, whom he would not expect. Not only did this add to his distress, but itYes. The first time John, George, Cynthia and Patti were given acid, it was without their consent -- which was spectacularly unethical on the part of the guy who dosed them. LSD in particular is not for everybody.What I meant to imply is that, if Lennon had been moderate in his LSD use, he might have kept his wits about him and not fallen for the likes of Mardas, Ono, and Klein. The Beatles likely would have lasted longer.I agree. However, it is possible that John was also being given toxic substances of some sort without his knowledge or permission...
I asked because there are passages, near the end, indicating that Lennon was being drugged without his consent.Have you read May Pang's first book, Pamela?I didn't get too far...will try again...I have mixed feelings about May, because she was, in effect, working for Yoko...
There's also that weird stuff, early in John Green's book, about Yoko telling Green that she thought John had been "poisoned."
On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 7:33:40 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 7:10:26 PM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 4:44:11 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 11:46:44 AM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 7:20:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 4:21:31 AM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 7:16:13 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 4:05:30 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 9:11:37 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?
destroyed his sense of discernment and made him susceptible to predators like Alex Mardas, Yoko Ono, and Allen Klein.--I suspect that John's "eating acid like candy" was more conducive to the Beatles' breakup than his later heroin addiction. The constant LSD use (John's life had become a "continuous acid trip," according to his close friend Pete Shotton)
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
that way; the brain needs intervals in which to recover between trips.John's song "Tomorrow Never Knows" is famously inspired by "The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead" by Ralph Metzner and Timothy Leary, and in 1969 John became personally acquainted with Leary.
I wish Lennon had met Timothy Leary earlier, and discussed LSD use with him. John's biographer Albert Goldman says that he consulted Leary about the effects of constant tripping -- and that Leary said that one should not use the drug
it kept him compliant...I would not be surprised to discover that John had been given substances without his knowledge or consent incrementally, over a long period of time, by someone close to him, whom he would not expect. Not only did this add to his distress, butYes. The first time John, George, Cynthia and Patti were given acid, it was without their consent -- which was spectacularly unethical on the part of the guy who dosed them. LSD in particular is not for everybody.What I meant to imply is that, if Lennon had been moderate in his LSD use, he might have kept his wits about him and not fallen for the likes of Mardas, Ono, and Klein. The Beatles likely would have lasted longer.I agree. However, it is possible that John was also being given toxic substances of some sort without his knowledge or permission...
I asked because there are passages, near the end, indicating that Lennon was being drugged without his consent.Have you read May Pang's first book, Pamela?I didn't get too far...will try again...I have mixed feelings about May, because she was, in effect, working for Yoko...
There's also that weird stuff, early in John Green's book, about Yoko telling Green that she thought John had been "poisoned."Thank you! I will read to the end this time. I do recall the 'poisoning' episode from Dakota Days...will check that out again too...
This could put a different slant on John's drug use, in that he may have been self-medicating something that he had no understanding of, as he was being caused to ingest substances of some sort without his knowledge or permission...
On Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 7:10:26 PM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 4:44:11 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 11:46:44 AM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 7:20:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 4:21:31 AM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 7:16:13 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 4:05:30 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 9:11:37 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?
destroyed his sense of discernment and made him susceptible to predators like Alex Mardas, Yoko Ono, and Allen Klein.--I suspect that John's "eating acid like candy" was more conducive to the Beatles' breakup than his later heroin addiction. The constant LSD use (John's life had become a "continuous acid trip," according to his close friend Pete Shotton)
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
way; the brain needs intervals in which to recover between trips.John's song "Tomorrow Never Knows" is famously inspired by "The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead" by Ralph Metzner and Timothy Leary, and in 1969 John became personally acquainted with Leary.
I wish Lennon had met Timothy Leary earlier, and discussed LSD use with him. John's biographer Albert Goldman says that he consulted Leary about the effects of constant tripping -- and that Leary said that one should not use the drug that
kept him compliant...I would not be surprised to discover that John had been given substances without his knowledge or consent incrementally, over a long period of time, by someone close to him, whom he would not expect. Not only did this add to his distress, but itYes. The first time John, George, Cynthia and Patti were given acid, it was without their consent -- which was spectacularly unethical on the part of the guy who dosed them. LSD in particular is not for everybody.What I meant to imply is that, if Lennon had been moderate in his LSD use, he might have kept his wits about him and not fallen for the likes of Mardas, Ono, and Klein. The Beatles likely would have lasted longer.I agree. However, it is possible that John was also being given toxic substances of some sort without his knowledge or permission...
Have you read May Pang's first book, Pamela?I didn't get too far...will try again...I have mixed feelings about May, because she was, in effect, working for Yoko...
I asked because there are passages, near the end, indicating that Lennon was being drugged without his consent.
There's also that weird stuff, early in John Green's book, about Yoko telling Green that she thought John had been "poisoned."
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 7:20:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 4:21:31 AM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 7:16:13 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 4:05:30 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 9:11:37 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?
destroyed his sense of discernment and made him susceptible to predators like Alex Mardas, Yoko Ono, and Allen Klein.--I suspect that John's "eating acid like candy" was more conducive to the Beatles' breakup than his later heroin addiction. The constant LSD use (John's life had become a "continuous acid trip," according to his close friend Pete Shotton)
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
the brain needs intervals in which to recover between trips.John's song "Tomorrow Never Knows" is famously inspired by "The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead" by Ralph Metzner and Timothy Leary, and in 1969 John became personally acquainted with Leary.
I wish Lennon had met Timothy Leary earlier, and discussed LSD use with him. John's biographer Albert Goldman says that he consulted Leary about the effects of constant tripping -- and that Leary said that one should not use the drug that way;
him compliant...I would not be surprised to discover that John had been given substances without his knowledge or consent incrementally, over a long period of time, by someone close to him, whom he would not expect. Not only did this add to his distress, but it keptYes. The first time John, George, Cynthia and Patti were given acid, it was without their consent -- which was spectacularly unethical on the part of the guy who dosed them. LSD in particular is not for everybody.What I meant to imply is that, if Lennon had been moderate in his LSD use, he might have kept his wits about him and not fallen for the likes of Mardas, Ono, and Klein. The Beatles likely would have lasted longer.I agree. However, it is possible that John was also being given toxic substances of some sort without his knowledge or permission...
Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 7:20:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 4:21:31 AM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 7:16:13 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 4:05:30 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 9:11:37 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?
destroyed his sense of discernment and made him susceptible to predators like Alex Mardas, Yoko Ono, and Allen Klein.--I suspect that John's "eating acid like candy" was more conducive to the Beatles' breakup than his later heroin addiction. The constant LSD use (John's life had become a "continuous acid trip," according to his close friend Pete Shotton)
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
the brain needs intervals in which to recover between trips.John's song "Tomorrow Never Knows" is famously inspired by "The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead" by Ralph Metzner and Timothy Leary, and in 1969 John became personally acquainted with Leary.
I wish Lennon had met Timothy Leary earlier, and discussed LSD use with him. John's biographer Albert Goldman says that he consulted Leary about the effects of constant tripping -- and that Leary said that one should not use the drug that way;
him compliant...I would not be surprised to discover that John had been given substances without his knowledge or consent incrementally, over a long period of time, by someone close to him, whom he would not expect. Not only did this add to his distress, but it keptYes. The first time John, George, Cynthia and Patti were given acid, it was without their consent -- which was spectacularly unethical on the part of the guy who dosed them. LSD in particular is not for everybody.What I meant to imply is that, if Lennon had been moderate in his LSD use, he might have kept his wits about him and not fallen for the likes of Mardas, Ono, and Klein. The Beatles likely would have lasted longer.I agree. However, it is possible that John was also being given toxic substances of some sort without his knowledge or permission...
I don't know how you can give a person Heroin without they knowing about it...
and you need a few hits before you can get addicted to it.
And the High isn't like LDS.
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 12:45:04 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 7:20:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 4:21:31 AM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 7:16:13 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 4:05:30 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 9:11:37 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?
destroyed his sense of discernment and made him susceptible to predators like Alex Mardas, Yoko Ono, and Allen Klein.--I suspect that John's "eating acid like candy" was more conducive to the Beatles' breakup than his later heroin addiction. The constant LSD use (John's life had become a "continuous acid trip," according to his close friend Pete Shotton)
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
way; the brain needs intervals in which to recover between trips.John's song "Tomorrow Never Knows" is famously inspired by "The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead" by Ralph Metzner and Timothy Leary, and in 1969 John became personally acquainted with Leary.
I wish Lennon had met Timothy Leary earlier, and discussed LSD use with him. John's biographer Albert Goldman says that he consulted Leary about the effects of constant tripping -- and that Leary said that one should not use the drug that
kept him compliant...I would not be surprised to discover that John had been given substances without his knowledge or consent incrementally, over a long period of time, by someone close to him, whom he would not expect. Not only did this add to his distress, but itYes. The first time John, George, Cynthia and Patti were given acid, it was without their consent -- which was spectacularly unethical on the part of the guy who dosed them. LSD in particular is not for everybody.What I meant to imply is that, if Lennon had been moderate in his LSD use, he might have kept his wits about him and not fallen for the likes of Mardas, Ono, and Klein. The Beatles likely would have lasted longer.I agree. However, it is possible that John was also being given toxic substances of some sort without his knowledge or permission...
I don't know how you can give a person Heroin without they knowing about it...
and you need a few hits before you can get addicted to it.
And the High isn't like LDS.
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
Heroin can be smoked or sniffed; it doesn't have to be injected. No one in this thread has claimed its effects are similar to those of LSD.
Pamela Brown wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 7:20:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 4:21:31 AM UTC-7, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 7:16:13 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 4:05:30 AM UTC-7, Norbert K wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 9:11:37 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?
destroyed his sense of discernment and made him susceptible to predators like Alex Mardas, Yoko Ono, and Allen Klein.--I suspect that John's "eating acid like candy" was more conducive to the Beatles' breakup than his later heroin addiction. The constant LSD use (John's life had become a "continuous acid trip," according to his close friend Pete Shotton)
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
the brain needs intervals in which to recover between trips.John's song "Tomorrow Never Knows" is famously inspired by "The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead" by Ralph Metzner and Timothy Leary, and in 1969 John became personally acquainted with Leary.
I wish Lennon had met Timothy Leary earlier, and discussed LSD use with him. John's biographer Albert Goldman says that he consulted Leary about the effects of constant tripping -- and that Leary said that one should not use the drug that way;
him compliant...I would not be surprised to discover that John had been given substances without his knowledge or consent incrementally, over a long period of time, by someone close to him, whom he would not expect. Not only did this add to his distress, but it keptYes. The first time John, George, Cynthia and Patti were given acid, it was without their consent -- which was spectacularly unethical on the part of the guy who dosed them. LSD in particular is not for everybody.What I meant to imply is that, if Lennon had been moderate in his LSD use, he might have kept his wits about him and not fallen for the likes of Mardas, Ono, and Klein. The Beatles likely would have lasted longer.I agree. However, it is possible that John was also being given toxic substances of some sort without his knowledge or permission...
I don't know how you can give a person Heroin without they knowing about it...I wasn't talking about heroin...
and you need a few hits before you can get addicted to it.
And the High isn't like LDS.
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?
On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 5:11:37 AM UTC+1, The Starmaker wrote:
i heard it was because John Lennon was a heroin addict, is that true?Sort of....YO pushed drugs (H) onto him and then manipulated her wangly wangly way and then infiltrated herself into JLs life and then she killed the Beatles. All 100% the fault of YO.
Bless.
Danny
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