• Capitol vendetta against The Beatles Please Please Me and From Me To Yo

    From Pluted Pup@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 18 11:06:49 2022
    XPost: rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s

    I think Please Please Me and From Me To You are my favorites of the
    early Beatles, along with Anytime At All; the british mono versions
    from CDs have always been in my playlist. But Capitol sure hated it, suppressing the two songs from the American market. They were on
    Vee Jay singles and some of the Vee Jay Introducing The Beatles LPs
    (the originals not the terrible sounding counterfeits, familiar since
    the 1970s). Capitol banned the Beatles on Vee Jay since 1964.

    By the way, Discogs.com considers Introducing The Beatles to be a
    variation of the british Please Please Me album, which is false as
    they are two different albums. From what I gather, it can be hard to
    tell if an Introducing The Beatles LP is original or a fake without
    playing it, but if the two lines on the label The Beatles and
    Introducing The Beatles are separated by the spindle hole it is
    always a fake. Playing it, if it has thin sound, such as on the
    first track, it is a fake.

    Please Please Me shows up late on Capitol's The Early Beatles,
    but only the non-canonical stereo version, with the "mono" version
    being fake mono, just the stereo version folded to mono. From what
    I've read that and From Me To You only showed up on the American
    issue Red compilation in either fake mono (made from the stereo mix)
    or fake stereo (right mix but muffled by fake stereo), I forget the
    story. So Capitol kept the two songs off the American market from
    1964 - 1988!

    By the way again, I am skeptical that the Capitol CD versions sold
    in 2004 to 2006 are the unadulturated Capitol versions, because they
    were produced by Abbey Road, a studio with engineers who love to
    muffle the sound of the mastertape with superadded noise reduction
    and compression, al la Let It Be Naked (2003), 1 (2000), Yellow
    Submarine Songtrack (1999), etc. I've bought a few Capitol LPs,
    1980's reprints and 1960's (reprints) of the stereo XI, 65 and Meet
    The Beetles and am undecided from my casual listening.

    You could say that the refusal to allow listeners to hear the
    unmuffled originals makes the british Abbey Road from 1993 to now
    as in the same league as the Capitol of the Americas in the 1960s.
    Oh how the Beatles suffer from the perils of popularity!

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  • From P-Dub@21:1/5 to Pluted Pup on Thu Aug 18 12:50:48 2022
    On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 2:07:06 PM UTC-4, Pluted Pup wrote:
    I think Please Please Me and From Me To You are my favorites of the
    early Beatles, along with Anytime At All; the british mono versions
    from CDs have always been in my playlist. But Capitol sure hated it, suppressing the two songs from the American market. They were on
    Vee Jay singles and some of the Vee Jay Introducing The Beatles LPs
    (the originals not the terrible sounding counterfeits, familiar since
    the 1970s). Capitol banned the Beatles on Vee Jay since 1964.

    By the way, Discogs.com considers Introducing The Beatles to be a
    variation of the british Please Please Me album, which is false as
    they are two different albums. From what I gather, it can be hard to
    tell if an Introducing The Beatles LP is original or a fake without
    playing it, but if the two lines on the label The Beatles and
    Introducing The Beatles are separated by the spindle hole it is
    always a fake. Playing it, if it has thin sound, such as on the
    first track, it is a fake.

    Please Please Me shows up late on Capitol's The Early Beatles,
    but only the non-canonical stereo version, with the "mono" version
    being fake mono, just the stereo version folded to mono. From what
    I've read that and From Me To You only showed up on the American
    issue Red compilation in either fake mono (made from the stereo mix)
    or fake stereo (right mix but muffled by fake stereo), I forget the
    story. So Capitol kept the two songs off the American market from
    1964 - 1988!

    By the way again, I am skeptical that the Capitol CD versions sold
    in 2004 to 2006 are the unadulturated Capitol versions, because they
    were produced by Abbey Road, a studio with engineers who love to
    muffle the sound of the mastertape with superadded noise reduction
    and compression, al la Let It Be Naked (2003), 1 (2000), Yellow
    Submarine Songtrack (1999), etc. I've bought a few Capitol LPs,
    1980's reprints and 1960's (reprints) of the stereo XI, 65d Meet
    The Beetles and am undecided from my casual listening.

    You could say that the refusal to allow listeners to hear the
    unmuffled originals makes the british Abbey Road from 1993 to now
    as in the same league as the Capitol of the Americas in the 1960s.
    Oh how the Beatles suffer from the perils of popularity!

    I don't think Capitol hated those songs at all. They were just trying to figure out how to exploit them for more cash. They messed up on em.

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  • From RJKellog@yahoo.com@21:1/5 to P-Dub on Tue Aug 23 08:38:03 2022
    On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 3:50:50 PM UTC-4, P-Dub wrote:
    On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 2:07:06 PM UTC-4, Pluted Pup wrote:
    I think Please Please Me and From Me To You are my favorites of the
    early Beatles, along with Anytime At All; the british mono versions
    from CDs have always been in my playlist. But Capitol sure hated it, suppressing the two songs from the American market. They were on
    Vee Jay singles and some of the Vee Jay Introducing The Beatles LPs
    (the originals not the terrible sounding counterfeits, familiar since
    the 1970s). Capitol banned the Beatles on Vee Jay since 1964.

    By the way, Discogs.com considers Introducing The Beatles to be a
    variation of the british Please Please Me album, which is false as
    they are two different albums. From what I gather, it can be hard to
    tell if an Introducing The Beatles LP is original or a fake without
    playing it, but if the two lines on the label The Beatles and
    Introducing The Beatles are separated by the spindle hole it is
    always a fake. Playing it, if it has thin sound, such as on the
    first track, it is a fake.

    Please Please Me shows up late on Capitol's The Early Beatles,
    but only the non-canonical stereo version, with the "mono" version
    being fake mono, just the stereo version folded to mono. From what
    I've read that and From Me To You only showed up on the American
    issue Red compilation in either fake mono (made from the stereo mix)
    or fake stereo (right mix but muffled by fake stereo), I forget the
    story. So Capitol kept the two songs off the American market from
    1964 - 1988!

    By the way again, I am skeptical that the Capitol CD versions sold
    in 2004 to 2006 are the unadulturated Capitol versions, because they
    were produced by Abbey Road, a studio with engineers who love to
    muffle the sound of the mastertape with superadded noise reduction
    and compression, al la Let It Be Naked (2003), 1 (2000), Yellow
    Submarine Songtrack (1999), etc. I've bought a few Capitol LPs,
    1980's reprints and 1960's (reprints) of the stereo XI, 65d Meet
    The Beetles and am undecided from my casual listening.

    You could say that the refusal to allow listeners to hear the
    unmuffled originals makes the british Abbey Road from 1993 to now
    as in the same league as the Capitol of the Americas in the 1960s.
    Oh how the Beatles suffer from the perils of popularity!
    I don't think Capitol hated those songs at all. They were just trying to figure out how to exploit them for more cash. They messed up on em.

    I agree.

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