https://www.sho.com/titles/3478040/scrambled-eggs

Watched this today. It was good. Pretty accurate to the story except for them claiming that it was 1963 when it should be 1965. No Peter Asher, but I suppose he could have been touring America at the time or something like that.

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On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 5:28:24 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

https://www.sho.com/titles/3478040/scrambled-eggs

Watched this today. It was good. Pretty accurate to the story except for them claiming that it was 1963 when it should be 1965. No Peter Asher, but I suppose he could have been touring America at the time or something like that.

Scrambled Eggs should have been the original title for the Stones' "It's All Ova Now", baby!!

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On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 7:05:18 PM UTC-4, dennis...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 5:28:24 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

https://www.sho.com/titles/3478040/scrambled-eggs

Watched this today. It was good. Pretty accurate to the story except for them claiming that it was 1963 when it should be 1965. No Peter Asher, but I suppose he could have been touring America at the time or something like that.

Scrambled Eggs should have been the original title for the Stones' "It's All Ova Now", baby!!

I don't get the joke, but that Stones record was a cover of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71XrZ7ghpZg

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On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 8:36:22 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 7:05:18 PM UTC-4, dennis...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 5:28:24 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

https://www.sho.com/titles/3478040/scrambled-eggs

Watched this today. It was good. Pretty accurate to the story except for them claiming that it was 1963 when it should be 1965. No Peter Asher, but I suppose he could have been touring America at the time or something like that.

Scrambled Eggs should have been the original title for the Stones' "It's All Ova Now", baby!!

I don't get the joke, but that Stones record was a cover of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71XrZ7ghpZg

over (with a Boston accent) = ova = eggs (Well, I still don't get it, either.)

Bruce, what do you think of these Stones versions?:

It's All Over Now
Carol
Come On
You Can't Catch Me
Hitch Hike
That's How Strong My Love Is
Under the Boardwalk
You Better Move On
Mercy, Mercy

They don't match the originals, but pretty good, methinks.

This might be my favorite version of It's All Over Now (for dance parties anyway): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acDWlBkuoFg (Dr. John on vocal)

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On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 5:48:37 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

Just Your Fool (Buddy & Ella Johnson - 8, Little Walter - 8)

Oops, Stones version is a 6.

My girlfriend Diane's favorite record of all time is "Still A Fool" by Muddy Waters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbK-UG4tJNE

Mick did a version and she only listened to about 15 seconds before you shut it off in disgust.

https://youtu.be/xa1hhe6-R1g?t=384

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On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 5:13:57 PM UTC-4, Willie Williams wrote:

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 8:36:22 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 7:05:18 PM UTC-4, dennis...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 5:28:24 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

https://www.sho.com/titles/3478040/scrambled-eggs

Watched this today. It was good. Pretty accurate to the story except for them claiming that it was 1963 when it should be 1965. No Peter Asher, but I suppose he could have been touring America at the time or something like that.

Scrambled Eggs should have been the original title for the Stones' "It's All Ova Now", baby!!

I don't get the joke, but that Stones record was a cover of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71XrZ7ghpZg

over (with a Boston accent) = ova = eggs (Well, I still don't get it, either.)

Bruce, what do you think of these Stones versions?:

It's All Over Now - Love this, it's better than the Valentinos IMO.

Carol - Very Good
Come On - Pretty Good
You Can't Catch Me - Fair
Hitch Hike - Weak
That's How Strong My Love Is - Weak
Under the Boardwalk - Weak
You Better Move On - good
Mercy, Mercy - Weak

They don't match the originals, but pretty good, me thinks.

My ratings of Stones remakes and covers, from 0 to 10 and my rating of what they were copying.

Johnny B. Goode - 4 (Chuck Berry - 10)
Roll Over Beethoven - 5 (Chuck Berry - 10 his best record IMO)
Come On - 5 (Chuck Berry - 7)
Around And Around - 7 (Chuck Berry - 10)
Carol - 7 (Chuck Berry - 8)
Confessin' The Blues - 6 (Little Walter - 8 - not the original, but the one the Stones knew)
I Just Want To Make Love To You - 6 (Muddy Waters - 10)
I Want To Be Loved - 5 (Muddy Waters - 8)
I'm A King Bee - 6 (Slim Harpo - 10)
It's All Over Now - 10 (Valentinos - 7)
Little Red Rooster - 8 (Howlin' Wolf - 9)
Not Fade Away - 6 (Buddy Holly - 9)
Poison Ivy - 6 (Coasters - 8)
Route 66 - 6 (Nat King Cole - 8)
Time Is On My Side - 8 (Irma Thomas higher 8)
Walking The Dog - 5 (Rufus Thomas - 8)
You Better Move On - 6 (Arthur Alexander - 8)
Under The Boardwalk - 4 (Drifters - 8)
Hitch Hike - 4 (Marvin Gaye - 8)
Mercy, Mercy - 4 (Don Covay - 7)
That's How Strong My Love Is - 3 (O. V. Wright - 7, Otis Redding - 6)
You Can't Catch Me - 5 (Chuck Berry - 8)
Down The Road Apiece - 6 (Amos Milburn - 8)
Love In Vain - 4 (Robert Johnson - 6)
Shake Your Hips - 6 (Slim Harpo - 8)
Just My Imagination - 5 (Temptations - 9)
Ain't Too Proud To Beg - 5 (Temptations - 10)
Like A Rolling Stone - 6 (Dylan - 10)
Just Your Fool (Buddy & Ella Johnson - 8, Little Walter - 8)

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On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 9:20:50 PM UTC-4, Willie Williams wrote:

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 5:53:09 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 5:48:37 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

Just Your Fool (Buddy & Ella Johnson - 8, Little Walter - 8)

Oops, Stones version is a 6.

My girlfriend Diane's favorite record of all time is "Still A Fool" by Muddy Waters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbK-UG4tJNE

Mick did a version and she only listened to about 15 seconds before you shut it off in disgust.

https://youtu.be/xa1hhe6-R1g?t=384
It's All Over Now - 10 (Valentinos - 7)

Wow, this surprises me. Not that I disagree. I love the Stones version. I knew I'd missed one I wanted to include: it was "Time Is On My Side," which I see you give both the Stones and Irma 8 (again, I don't disagree). I knew the Stones did other

remakes and covers, but not all those you've listed.

Another song where I think a later version beats the original is "Piece of My Heart," where I'd give Janis Joplin maybe 9 or 10 (though Big Brother's backup ain't that great) to Erma Franklin's 6 or 7.

Do you have a similar listing you could easily do for Beatles remakes and covers?

And thank you (and Diane) for hepping me to Muddy Waters' "Still a Fool." I always thought that song was called "Two Trains Running," because Paul Butterfield does a song that also starts out "There's two trains running..." (on their East-West album)

and it's attributed to Muddy, but is called "Two Trains Running." But besides the opening lines, they are quite different songs.

Hope you and Diane are well.

Oh, I thought of you recently because a jazz-loving friend of mine sent me an invite to a Zoom jazz listeners session that I misread as being devoted to "The Savoy Collection." So I attended it, thinking it would be about Savoy Records, and I could say

I knew the grandson (or grand-nephew, is it? Or just nephew?) of Herman Lubinsky. But it turned out I had misread "The Savory Collection" (see here: https://www.mosaicrecords.com/product/the-savory-collection-1935-1940-6-cds/), which wasn't nearly as
interesting to me as Savoy records. Still, it was cool to see these hard core jazz fans share their jazz stories (most had followed jazz the way you've followed R&B).

That's How Strong My Love Is - 3 (O. V. Wright - 7, Otis Redding - 6)

O.V. Wright's original is great, but I would give Otis a straight up 10. (On the other hand, I definitely prefer the Stones' "Satisfaction" to Otis' version.)

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On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 5:53:09 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 5:48:37 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

Just Your Fool (Buddy & Ella Johnson - 8, Little Walter - 8)

Oops, Stones version is a 6.

My girlfriend Diane's favorite record of all time is "Still A Fool" by Muddy Waters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbK-UG4tJNE

Mick did a version and she only listened to about 15 seconds before you shut it off in disgust.

https://youtu.be/xa1hhe6-R1g?t=384

It's All Over Now - 10 (Valentinos - 7)

Wow, this surprises me. Not that I disagree. I love the Stones version. I knew I'd missed one I wanted to include: it was "Time Is On My Side," which I see you give both the Stones and Irma 8 (again, I don't disagree). I knew the Stones did other
remakes and covers, but not all those you've listed.

Another song where I think a later version beats the original is "Piece of My Heart," where I'd give Janis Joplin maybe 9 or 10 (though Big Brother's backup ain't that great) to Erma Franklin's 6 or 7.

Do you have a similar listing you could easily do for Beatles remakes and covers?

And thank you (and Diane) for hepping me to Muddy Waters' "Still a Fool." I always thought that song was called "Two Trains Running," because Paul Butterfield does a song that also starts out "There's two trains running..." (on their East-West album) and
it's attributed to Muddy, but is called "Two Trains Running." But besides the opening lines, they are quite different songs.

Hope you and Diane are well.

Oh, I thought of you recently because a jazz-loving friend of mine sent me an invite to a Zoom jazz listeners session that I misread as being devoted to "The Savoy Collection." So I attended it, thinking it would be about Savoy Records, and I could say I
knew the grandson (or grand-nephew, is it? Or just nephew?) of Herman Lubinsky. But it turned out I had misread "The Savory Collection" (see here: https://www.mosaicrecords.com/product/the-savory-collection-1935-1940-6-cds/), which wasn't nearly as
interesting to me as Savoy records. Still, it was cool to see these hard core jazz fans share their jazz stories (most had followed jazz the way you've followed R&B).

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On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 9:20:50 PM UTC-4, Willie Williams wrote:

It's All Over Now - 10 (Valentinos - 7)

Wow, this surprises me. Not that I disagree. I love the Stones version.

The Valentinos version has a beat that is too choppy IMO.

Another song where I think a later version beats the original is "Piece of My Heart," where I'd give Janis Joplin maybe 9 or 10 (though Big Brother's backup ain't that great) to Erma Franklin's 6 or 7.

I have them about even. Both get a 7 IMO.

Do you have a similar listing you could easily do for Beatles remakes and covers?

And thank you (and Diane) for hepping me to Muddy Waters' "Still a Fool." I always thought that song was called "Two Trains Running," because Paul Butterfield does a song that also starts out "There's two trains running..." (on their East-West album)

and it's attributed to Muddy, but is called "Two Trains Running." But besides the opening lines, they are quite different songs.

Hope you and Diane are well.

Oh, I thought of you recently because a jazz-loving friend of mine sent me an invite to a Zoom jazz listeners session that I misread as being devoted to "The Savoy Collection." So I attended it, thinking it would be about Savoy Records, and I could say

I knew the grandson (or grand-nephew, is it? Or just nephew?) of Herman Lubinsky.

Grandson.

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On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 9:20:50 PM UTC-4, Willie Williams wrote:

Do you have a similar listing you could easily do for Beatles remakes and covers?

Okay....

Ain't She Sweet - 7 (Ben Bernie - 5, from 1927)
Crying, Waiting, Hoping - 6 (Buddy Holly - 7)
Take Good Care of My Baby - 6 (Bobby Vee - 5)
A Shot of Rhythm And Blues - 6 (Arthur Alexander - slightly higher 6)
A Taste of Honey - 4 (Bobby Scott - 5, Herb Alpert & TJB - 7)
Anna (Go To Him) - 5 (Arthur Alexander - slightly higher 5)
Baby It's You - 6 (Shirelles - 7)
Boys - 6 (Shirelles - slightly higher 6)
Chains - 6 (Cookies - 7)
Devil In Her Heart - 6 (Donays - 5)
Lonesome Tears In My Eyes - 6 (Johnny Burnette Trio - slightly higher 6)
Money - 6 (Barrett Strong - 8. Kingsmen - 9)
Please Mr. Postman - 6 (Marvelettes - 7)
Roll Over Beethoven - 8 (Chuck Berry - 10)
Til There Was You - 5 (Merideth Wilson - 3, Peggy Lee - 4)
Twist And Shout - 9 (Top Notes - 4, Isley Brothers - 8)
You (You've) Really Got A Hold On Me - 6 (Miracles - 9)
Everybody's Tryin' To Be My Baby - 6 (Carl Perkins - 9)
Honey Don't - 6 (Carl Perkins - 9)
Kansas City - 7 (Little Richard - 9 - that's the version they were doing)
Long Tall Sally - 7 (Little Richard - 10)
Matchbox - 7 (Carl Perkins - 10)
Mr. Moonlight - 7 (Dr. Feelgood & Interns - 6)
Rock And Roll Music - 8 (Chuck Berry - 10)
Slow Down - 6 (Larry Williams - 7)
Dizzy Miss Lizzy - 7 (Larry Williams - 8)
Words of Love - 7 (Buddy Holly - 8)
Act Naturally - 6 (Buck Owens - higher 6)
Bad Boy - 6 (Larry Williams - Lower 6)

In general I think the Beatles did better (and sometimes much better) remakes of older songs than the Stones, for 2 reasons.

A - The Beatles were picking mainly pop and straight rock and roll songs to do while the Stones were picking hard core blues, R&B and soul records that white guys are just not gonna be able to do as well as black people. As much as the Stones loved those
records, they just did not come out of the black church in the USA.

B - The Beatles had 2 excellent singers and a pretty good third singer. The Stones did not have really have a very good singer. All they had a stylist in Jagger, but nobody who could really hit notes and sing a pop song well. Just imagine Jagger trying
to sing "The Star Spangled Banner" at a sporting event. He wouldn't be much better than Roseanne.

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On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:55:17 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 9:20:50 PM UTC-4, Willie Williams wrote:

Do you have a similar listing you could easily do for Beatles remakes and covers?

Okay....

Ain't She Sweet - 7 (Ben Bernie - 5, from 1927)
Crying, Waiting, Hoping - 6 (Buddy Holly - 7)
Take Good Care of My Baby - 6 (Bobby Vee - 5)
A Shot of Rhythm And Blues - 6 (Arthur Alexander - slightly higher 6)
A Taste of Honey - 4 (Bobby Scott - 5, Herb Alpert & TJB - 7)
Anna (Go To Him) - 5 (Arthur Alexander - slightly higher 5)
Baby It's You - 6 (Shirelles - 7)
Boys - 6 (Shirelles - slightly higher 6)
Chains - 6 (Cookies - 7)
Devil In Her Heart - 6 (Donays - 5)
Lonesome Tears In My Eyes - 6 (Johnny Burnette Trio - slightly higher 6) Money - 6 (Barrett Strong - 8. Kingsmen - 9)
Please Mr. Postman - 6 (Marvelettes - 7)
Roll Over Beethoven - 8 (Chuck Berry - 10)
Til There Was You - 5 (Merideth Wilson - 3, Peggy Lee - 4)
Twist And Shout - 9 (Top Notes - 4, Isley Brothers - 8)
You (You've) Really Got A Hold On Me - 6 (Miracles - 9)
Everybody's Tryin' To Be My Baby - 6 (Carl Perkins - 9)
Honey Don't - 6 (Carl Perkins - 9)
Kansas City - 7 (Little Richard - 9 - that's the version they were doing) Long Tall Sally - 7 (Little Richard - 10)
Matchbox - 7 (Carl Perkins - 10)
Mr. Moonlight - 7 (Dr. Feelgood & Interns - 6)
Rock And Roll Music - 8 (Chuck Berry - 10)
Slow Down - 6 (Larry Williams - 7)
Dizzy Miss Lizzy - 7 (Larry Williams - 8)
Words of Love - 7 (Buddy Holly - 8)
Act Naturally - 6 (Buck Owens - higher 6)
Bad Boy - 6 (Larry Williams - Lower 6)

In general I think the Beatles did better (and sometimes much better) remakes of older songs than the Stones, for 2 reasons.

A - The Beatles were picking mainly pop and straight rock and roll songs to do while the Stones were picking hard core blues, R&B and soul records that white guys are just not gonna be able to do as well as black people. As much as the Stones loved

those records, they just did not come out of the black church in the USA.

B - The Beatles had 2 excellent singers and a pretty good third singer. The Stones did not have really have a very good singer. All they had a stylist in Jagger, but nobody who could really hit notes and sing a pop song well. Just imagine Jagger trying

to sing "The Star Spangled Banner" at a sporting event. He wouldn't be much better than Roseanne.

Whoa, ask (Bruce) and ye shall receive. I agree with your points A and B.

About "Money," I thought, The Kingsmen, huh? Not sure if I'd even ever heard that. When I listened, it struck me as similar, but not as good, to Roy Head's "Treat Her Right." I like the Beatles' version best because they do the backups so well, and John
is, well, John—his love of the song shines through. I'd give the Beatles and Barrett Strong a tie (though I think tie goes to the original).

Which do you prefer for "Louie, Louie," The Kingsmen or Richard Berry? (From all the versions I've heard at sleazy bars, all of which aimed for The Kinngsmen version, I trip into bad memoryland when I hear that version.)

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On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 1:37:20 PM UTC-4, Willie Williams wrote:

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:55:17 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 9:20:50 PM UTC-4, Willie Williams wrote:

Do you have a similar listing you could easily do for Beatles remakes and covers?

Okay....

Ain't She Sweet - 7 (Ben Bernie - 5, from 1927)
Crying, Waiting, Hoping - 6 (Buddy Holly - 7)
Take Good Care of My Baby - 6 (Bobby Vee - 5)
A Shot of Rhythm And Blues - 6 (Arthur Alexander - slightly higher 6)
A Taste of Honey - 4 (Bobby Scott - 5, Herb Alpert & TJB - 7)
Anna (Go To Him) - 5 (Arthur Alexander - slightly higher 5)
Baby It's You - 6 (Shirelles - 7)
Boys - 6 (Shirelles - slightly higher 6)
Chains - 6 (Cookies - 7)
Devil In Her Heart - 6 (Donays - 5)
Lonesome Tears In My Eyes - 6 (Johnny Burnette Trio - slightly higher 6) Money - 6 (Barrett Strong - 8. Kingsmen - 9)
Please Mr. Postman - 6 (Marvelettes - 7)
Roll Over Beethoven - 8 (Chuck Berry - 10)
Til There Was You - 5 (Merideth Wilson - 3, Peggy Lee - 4)
Twist And Shout - 9 (Top Notes - 4, Isley Brothers - 8)
You (You've) Really Got A Hold On Me - 6 (Miracles - 9)
Everybody's Tryin' To Be My Baby - 6 (Carl Perkins - 9)
Honey Don't - 6 (Carl Perkins - 9)
Kansas City - 7 (Little Richard - 9 - that's the version they were doing) Long Tall Sally - 7 (Little Richard - 10)
Matchbox - 7 (Carl Perkins - 10)
Mr. Moonlight - 7 (Dr. Feelgood & Interns - 6)
Rock And Roll Music - 8 (Chuck Berry - 10)
Slow Down - 6 (Larry Williams - 7)
Dizzy Miss Lizzy - 7 (Larry Williams - 8)
Words of Love - 7 (Buddy Holly - 8)
Act Naturally - 6 (Buck Owens - higher 6)
Bad Boy - 6 (Larry Williams - Lower 6)

In general I think the Beatles did better (and sometimes much better) remakes of older songs than the Stones, for 2 reasons.

A - The Beatles were picking mainly pop and straight rock and roll songs to do while the Stones were picking hard core blues, R&B and soul records that white guys are just not gonna be able to do as well as black people. As much as the Stones loved

those records, they just did not come out of the black church in the USA.

B - The Beatles had 2 excellent singers and a pretty good third singer. The Stones did not have really have a very good singer. All they had a stylist in Jagger, but nobody who could really hit notes and sing a pop song well. Just imagine Jagger

trying to sing "The Star Spangled Banner" at a sporting event. He wouldn't be much better than Roseanne.

Whoa, ask (Bruce) and ye shall receive. I agree with your points A and B.

About "Money," I thought, The Kingsmen, huh? Not sure if I'd even ever heard that. When I listened, it struck me as similar, but not as good, to Roy Head's "Treat Her Right." I like the Beatles' version best because they do the backups so well, and

John is, well, John—his love of the song shines through. I'd give the Beatles and Barrett Strong a tie (though I think tie goes to the original).

Which do you prefer for "Louie, Louie," The Kingsmen or Richard Berry?

The Kingsmen easy on "Louie Louie." The Beatles "Money" is not even among the 5 best versions for me. I like the Flying Lizards version better, along with the Sonics version and the John Lee Hooker version. The Kingsmen actually had the biggest hit
version of "Money." It reached #16 on the Billboard Singles chart. Great early fuzz guitar. The Beatles was just an album track, and far overrated IMO.

Sonics - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKI6c6BYbp0

John Lee Hooker - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkpv4bxZpio

Flying Lizards - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTo9K2UD-mA

What makes "Money" is the great riff, and the Beatles version does not accent that riff enough. The rhythm guitar is not needed, and the background vocals sound really forced and frankly, too cornball white.

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On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 5:57:54 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 1:37:20 PM UTC-4, Willie Williams wrote:

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:55:17 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 9:20:50 PM UTC-4, Willie Williams wrote:

Do you have a similar listing you could easily do for Beatles remakes and covers?

Okay....

Ain't She Sweet - 7 (Ben Bernie - 5, from 1927)
Crying, Waiting, Hoping - 6 (Buddy Holly - 7)
Take Good Care of My Baby - 6 (Bobby Vee - 5)
A Shot of Rhythm And Blues - 6 (Arthur Alexander - slightly higher 6)
A Taste of Honey - 4 (Bobby Scott - 5, Herb Alpert & TJB - 7)
Anna (Go To Him) - 5 (Arthur Alexander - slightly higher 5)
Baby It's You - 6 (Shirelles - 7)
Boys - 6 (Shirelles - slightly higher 6)
Chains - 6 (Cookies - 7)
Devil In Her Heart - 6 (Donays - 5)
Lonesome Tears In My Eyes - 6 (Johnny Burnette Trio - slightly higher 6) Money - 6 (Barrett Strong - 8. Kingsmen - 9)
Please Mr. Postman - 6 (Marvelettes - 7)
Roll Over Beethoven - 8 (Chuck Berry - 10)
Til There Was You - 5 (Merideth Wilson - 3, Peggy Lee - 4)
Twist And Shout - 9 (Top Notes - 4, Isley Brothers - 8)
You (You've) Really Got A Hold On Me - 6 (Miracles - 9)
Everybody's Tryin' To Be My Baby - 6 (Carl Perkins - 9)
Honey Don't - 6 (Carl Perkins - 9)
Kansas City - 7 (Little Richard - 9 - that's the version they were doing)
Long Tall Sally - 7 (Little Richard - 10)
Matchbox - 7 (Carl Perkins - 10)
Mr. Moonlight - 7 (Dr. Feelgood & Interns - 6)
Rock And Roll Music - 8 (Chuck Berry - 10)
Slow Down - 6 (Larry Williams - 7)
Dizzy Miss Lizzy - 7 (Larry Williams - 8)
Words of Love - 7 (Buddy Holly - 8)
Act Naturally - 6 (Buck Owens - higher 6)
Bad Boy - 6 (Larry Williams - Lower 6)

In general I think the Beatles did better (and sometimes much better) remakes of older songs than the Stones, for 2 reasons.

A - The Beatles were picking mainly pop and straight rock and roll songs to do while the Stones were picking hard core blues, R&B and soul records that white guys are just not gonna be able to do as well as black people. As much as the Stones loved

those records, they just did not come out of the black church in the USA.

B - The Beatles had 2 excellent singers and a pretty good third singer. The Stones did not have really have a very good singer. All they had a stylist in Jagger, but nobody who could really hit notes and sing a pop song well. Just imagine Jagger

trying to sing "The Star Spangled Banner" at a sporting event. He wouldn't be much better than Roseanne.

Whoa, ask (Bruce) and ye shall receive. I agree with your points A and B.

About "Money," I thought, The Kingsmen, huh? Not sure if I'd even ever heard that. When I listened, it struck me as similar, but not as good, to Roy Head's "Treat Her Right." I like the Beatles' version best because they do the backups so well, and

John is, well, John—his love of the song shines through. I'd give the Beatles and Barrett Strong a tie (though I think tie goes to the original).

Which do you prefer for "Louie, Louie," The Kingsmen or Richard Berry?

The Kingsmen easy on "Louie Louie." The Beatles "Money" is not even among the 5 best versions for me. I like the Flying Lizards version better, along with the Sonics version and the John Lee Hooker version. The Kingsmen actually had the biggest hit

version of "Money." It reached #16 on the Billboard Singles chart. Great early fuzz guitar. The Beatles was just an album track, and far overrated IMO.

Sonics - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKI6c6BYbp0

John Lee Hooker - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkpv4bxZpio

Flying Lizards - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTo9K2UD-mA

What makes "Money" is the great riff, and the Beatles version does not accent that riff enough. The rhythm guitar is not needed, and the background vocals sound really forced and frankly, too cornball white.

Love the Hooker version. I see a vocal similarity with Muddy Waters there that I hadn't noticed before. I saw Hooker at a roadhouse in Española, NM, where he with only himself and a small amp sent a packed house into bedlam.

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On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 9:25:29 PM UTC-4, Willie Williams wrote:

Love the Hooker version. I see a vocal similarity with Muddy Waters there that I hadn't noticed before. I saw Hooker at a roadhouse in Española, NM, where he with only himself and a small amp sent a packed house into bedlam.

WOW! That must have been amazing.

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