https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGOitikmRcE
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 8:52:16 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:album, they retitled "King Kong" as "Jamrag" and claimed writing credit for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGOitikmRcE
He praises Elvin Jones's drumming -- and apparently is reminded of the famous jazz drummer Tony Williams. He adds that Shelly Manne played on his (Zappa's) Lumpy Gravy album.
Lumpy Gravy is the Zappa album featuring "King Kong," which Zappa's band played at the Fillmore East when they were joined onstage by John and Yoko. When Lennon and Ono included their version of this performance with their Sometime In New York City
On 15/04/2022 1:30 pm, Bruce wrote:album, they retitled "King Kong" as "Jamrag" and claimed writing credit for it.
On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 10:46:44 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 8:52:16 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGOitikmRcE
He praises Elvin Jones's drumming -- and apparently is reminded of the famous jazz drummer Tony Williams. He adds that Shelly Manne played on his (Zappa's) Lumpy Gravy album.
Lumpy Gravy is the Zappa album featuring "King Kong," which Zappa's band played at the Fillmore East when they were joined onstage by John and Yoko. When Lennon and Ono included their version of this performance with their Sometime In New York City
Did you notice that he said that he was mainly only interested in black music when he was young in the 1950s.Yep. He broadened his scope subsequently.
geoff
On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 10:46:44 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:album, they retitled "King Kong" as "Jamrag" and claimed writing credit for it.
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 8:52:16 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGOitikmRcE
He praises Elvin Jones's drumming -- and apparently is reminded of the famous jazz drummer Tony Williams. He adds that Shelly Manne played on his (Zappa's) Lumpy Gravy album.
Lumpy Gravy is the Zappa album featuring "King Kong," which Zappa's band played at the Fillmore East when they were joined onstage by John and Yoko. When Lennon and Ono included their version of this performance with their Sometime In New York City
Did you notice that he said that he was mainly only interested in black music when he was young in the 1950s.
On 15/04/2022 1:30 pm, Bruce wrote:album, they retitled "King Kong" as "Jamrag" and claimed writing credit for it.
On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 10:46:44 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 8:52:16 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGOitikmRcE
He praises Elvin Jones's drumming -- and apparently is reminded of the famous jazz drummer Tony Williams. He adds that Shelly Manne played on his (Zappa's) Lumpy Gravy album.
Lumpy Gravy is the Zappa album featuring "King Kong," which Zappa's band played at the Fillmore East when they were joined onstage by John and Yoko. When Lennon and Ono included their version of this performance with their Sometime In New York City
Did you notice that he said that he was mainly only interested in black music when he was young in the 1950s.
Yep. He broadened his scope subsequently.
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 7:43:25 AM UTC-4, geoff wrote:City album, they retitled "King Kong" as "Jamrag" and claimed writing credit for it.
On 15/04/2022 1:30 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 10:46:44 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 8:52:16 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGOitikmRcE
He praises Elvin Jones's drumming -- and apparently is reminded of the famous jazz drummer Tony Williams. He adds that Shelly Manne played on his (Zappa's) Lumpy Gravy album.
Lumpy Gravy is the Zappa album featuring "King Kong," which Zappa's band played at the Fillmore East when they were joined onstage by John and Yoko. When Lennon and Ono included their version of this performance with their Sometime In New York
Did you notice that he said that he was mainly only interested in black music when he was young in the 1950s.
Yep. He broadened his scope subsequently.That explains why his records all sucked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ0odI8W2U4
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 9:28:26 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:City album, they retitled "King Kong" as "Jamrag" and claimed writing credit for it.
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 7:43:25 AM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
On 15/04/2022 1:30 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 10:46:44 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 8:52:16 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGOitikmRcE
He praises Elvin Jones's drumming -- and apparently is reminded of the famous jazz drummer Tony Williams. He adds that Shelly Manne played on his (Zappa's) Lumpy Gravy album.
Lumpy Gravy is the Zappa album featuring "King Kong," which Zappa's band played at the Fillmore East when they were joined onstage by John and Yoko. When Lennon and Ono included their version of this performance with their Sometime In New York
Did you notice that he said that he was mainly only interested in black music when he was young in the 1950s.
You seemed impressed by the proposition that his influences were mostly black. I point out that one of his influences was not black, and suddenly "all his records sucked"?Yep. He broadened his scope subsequently.That explains why his records all sucked.
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 11:01:30 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:City album, they retitled "King Kong" as "Jamrag" and claimed writing credit for it.
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 9:28:26 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 7:43:25 AM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
On 15/04/2022 1:30 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 10:46:44 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 8:52:16 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGOitikmRcE
He praises Elvin Jones's drumming -- and apparently is reminded of the famous jazz drummer Tony Williams. He adds that Shelly Manne played on his (Zappa's) Lumpy Gravy album.
Lumpy Gravy is the Zappa album featuring "King Kong," which Zappa's band played at the Fillmore East when they were joined onstage by John and Yoko. When Lennon and Ono included their version of this performance with their Sometime In New York
something, but his records sucked shit.Did you notice that he said that he was mainly only interested in black music when he was young in the 1950s.
They always sucked. That's why he never made it into the mainstream. I think he was smart enough to know that he could never make black styled records well so he went in a different direction. I really liked the guy when he was a talk show guest orYou seemed impressed by the proposition that his influences were mostly black. I point out that one of his influences was not black, and suddenly "all his records sucked"?Yep. He broadened his scope subsequently.That explains why his records all sucked.
Frank once named this as his favorite record of all time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbPUsm_DONs
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 12:25:35 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:York City album, they retitled "King Kong" as "Jamrag" and claimed writing credit for it.
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 11:01:30 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 9:28:26 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 7:43:25 AM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
On 15/04/2022 1:30 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 10:46:44 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 8:52:16 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote: >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGOitikmRcE
He praises Elvin Jones's drumming -- and apparently is reminded of the famous jazz drummer Tony Williams. He adds that Shelly Manne played on his (Zappa's) Lumpy Gravy album.
Lumpy Gravy is the Zappa album featuring "King Kong," which Zappa's band played at the Fillmore East when they were joined onstage by John and Yoko. When Lennon and Ono included their version of this performance with their Sometime In New
something, but his records sucked shit.Did you notice that he said that he was mainly only interested in black music when he was young in the 1950s.
They always sucked. That's why he never made it into the mainstream. I think he was smart enough to know that he could never make black styled records well so he went in a different direction. I really liked the guy when he was a talk show guest orYou seemed impressed by the proposition that his influences were mostly black. I point out that one of his influences was not black, and suddenly "all his records sucked"?Yep. He broadened his scope subsequently.That explains why his records all sucked.
Does it sound to you as if he Zappa was striving for the mainstream?
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 2:09:38 PM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:York City album, they retitled "King Kong" as "Jamrag" and claimed writing credit for it.
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 12:25:35 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 11:01:30 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 9:28:26 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 7:43:25 AM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
On 15/04/2022 1:30 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 10:46:44 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 8:52:16 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote: >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGOitikmRcE
He praises Elvin Jones's drumming -- and apparently is reminded of the famous jazz drummer Tony Williams. He adds that Shelly Manne played on his (Zappa's) Lumpy Gravy album.
Lumpy Gravy is the Zappa album featuring "King Kong," which Zappa's band played at the Fillmore East when they were joined onstage by John and Yoko. When Lennon and Ono included their version of this performance with their Sometime In New
something, but his records sucked shit.Did you notice that he said that he was mainly only interested in black music when he was young in the 1950s.
They always sucked. That's why he never made it into the mainstream. I think he was smart enough to know that he could never make black styled records well so he went in a different direction. I really liked the guy when he was a talk show guest orYou seemed impressed by the proposition that his influences were mostly black. I point out that one of his influences was not black, and suddenly "all his records sucked"?Yep. He broadened his scope subsequently.That explains why his records all sucked.
Does it sound to you as if he Zappa was striving for the mainstream?It sounds to me like he knew he didn't have what it took to make big hit records so he hoped to find a niche among other weirdos and outcasts out there.
Zappa auditioned some friends of mine in the 1970s, the Sparrows Quartette. He totally did not get them and tried to have them go more mainstream and starting doing popular songs like "Under The Boardwalk" and "My Girl." They told him to fuck off.These are 4 white Jews and Italians singing in a hardcore black vocal group style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-mItJxedvU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM1EJ8pUBkk
Zappa's first album was Freak Out! You've seen the cover -- and you must have heard it, since you say that all of his records sucked. Was this a failed attempt at entering the mainstream?
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 5:13:52 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
You keep saying that. I wonder what it is based on.Zappa's first album was Freak Out! You've seen the cover -- and you must have heard it, since you say that all of his records sucked. Was this a failed attempt at entering the mainstream?No, before he started recording he knew that he was never gonna be a artist with big hit records that appealed to regular people,
I used to live among (although i had little in common with) a bunch of New Agers. One of them would pronounce that "Musicians all wish they were movie stars. But they don't have the looks, so they play instruments instead."
This New Agery was false and stupid. Obviously.
However, I read your posts claiming Zappa secretly craved mainstream attention, and...it seems oddly reminiscent.
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
Zappa's first album was Freak Out! You've seen the cover -- and you must have heard it, since you say that all of his records sucked. Was this a failed attempt at entering the mainstream?No, before he started recording he knew that he was never gonna be a artist with big hit records that appealed to regular people,
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 6:08:24 PM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 5:13:52 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
You keep saying that. I wonder what it is based on.Zappa's first album was Freak Out! You've seen the cover -- and you must have heard it, since you say that all of his records sucked. Was this a failed attempt at entering the mainstream?No, before he started recording he knew that he was never gonna be a artist with big hit records that appealed to regular people,
I used to live among (although i had little in common with) a bunch of New Agers. One of them would pronounce that "Musicians all wish they were movie stars. But they don't have the looks, so they play instruments instead."
This New Agery was false and stupid. Obviously.
However, I read your posts claiming Zappa secretly craved mainstream attention, and...it seems oddly reminiscent.Don't be naïve. EVERY recording artist wants their records to be huge hits.
Zappa auditioned some friends of mine in the 1970s, the Sparrows Quartette. He totally did not get them and tried to have them go more mainstream and starting doing popular songs like "Under The Boardwalk" and "My Girl." They told him to fuck off.These are 4 white Jews and Italians singing in a hardcore black vocal group style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-mItJxedvU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM1EJ8pUBkk
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 7:43:25 AM UTC-4, geoff wrote:album, they retitled "King Kong" as "Jamrag" and claimed writing credit for it. >>>
On 15/04/2022 1:30 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 10:46:44 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 8:52:16 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGOitikmRcE
He praises Elvin Jones's drumming -- and apparently is reminded of the famous jazz drummer Tony Williams. He adds that Shelly Manne played on his (Zappa's) Lumpy Gravy album.
Lumpy Gravy is the Zappa album featuring "King Kong," which Zappa's band played at the Fillmore East when they were joined onstage by John and Yoko. When Lennon and Ono included their version of this performance with their Sometime In New York City
Did you notice that he said that he was mainly only interested in black music when he was young in the 1950s.
Yep. He broadened his scope subsequently.
That explains why his records all sucked. He should have stayed with his early. Here's the only good song he ever wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ0odI8W2U4
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 2:09:38 PM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:City album, they retitled "King Kong" as "Jamrag" and claimed writing credit for it.
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 12:25:35 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 11:01:30 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 9:28:26 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 7:43:25 AM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
On 15/04/2022 1:30 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 10:46:44 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote: >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 8:52:16 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote: >>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGOitikmRcE
He praises Elvin Jones's drumming -- and apparently is reminded of the famous jazz drummer Tony Williams. He adds that Shelly Manne played on his (Zappa's) Lumpy Gravy album.
Lumpy Gravy is the Zappa album featuring "King Kong," which Zappa's band played at the Fillmore East when they were joined onstage by John and Yoko. When Lennon and Ono included their version of this performance with their Sometime In New York
something, but his records sucked shit.They always sucked. That's why he never made it into the mainstream. I think he was smart enough to know that he could never make black styled records well so he went in a different direction. I really liked the guy when he was a talk show guest orYou seemed impressed by the proposition that his influences were mostly black. I point out that one of his influences was not black, and suddenly "all his records sucked"?That explains why his records all sucked.
Did you notice that he said that he was mainly only interested in black music when he was young in the 1950s.
Yep. He broadened his scope subsequently.
Does it sound to you as if he Zappa was striving for the mainstream?
It sounds to me like he knew he didn't have what it took to make big hit records so he hoped to find a niche among other weirdos and outcasts out there.
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 11:01:30 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:City album, they retitled "King Kong" as "Jamrag" and claimed writing credit for it.
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 9:28:26 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 7:43:25 AM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
On 15/04/2022 1:30 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 10:46:44 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 8:52:16 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGOitikmRcE
He praises Elvin Jones's drumming -- and apparently is reminded of the famous jazz drummer Tony Williams. He adds that Shelly Manne played on his (Zappa's) Lumpy Gravy album.
Lumpy Gravy is the Zappa album featuring "King Kong," which Zappa's band played at the Fillmore East when they were joined onstage by John and Yoko. When Lennon and Ono included their version of this performance with their Sometime In New York
something, but his records sucked shit.You seemed impressed by the proposition that his influences were mostly black. I point out that one of his influences was not black, and suddenly "all his records sucked"?That explains why his records all sucked.
Did you notice that he said that he was mainly only interested in black music when he was young in the 1950s.
Yep. He broadened his scope subsequently.
They always sucked. That's why he never made it into the mainstream. I think he was smart enough to know that he could never make black styled records well so he went in a different direction. I really liked the guy when he was a talk show guest or
Frank once named this as his favorite record of all time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbPUsm_DONs
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
Zappa's first album was Freak Out! You've seen the cover -- and you must have heard it, since you say that all of his records sucked. Was this a failed attempt at entering the mainstream?
No, before he started recording he knew that he was never gonna be a artist with big hit records that appealed to regular people, so he tried a sort of half novelty approach hoping that it would maybe appeal to some of the other misfits out there.
On 16/04/2022 6:38 am, Bruce wrote:These are 4 white Jews and Italians singing in a hardcore black vocal group style.
Zappa auditioned some friends of mine in the 1970s, the Sparrows Quartette. He totally did not get them and tried to have them go more mainstream and starting doing popular songs like "Under The Boardwalk" and "My Girl." They told him to fuck off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-mItJxedvU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM1EJ8pUBkkI didn't realise that out of tune was a black vocal style.
Frank once named this as his favorite record of all time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbPUsm_DONs
You don't realise that he was joking ?
That explains why his records all sucked. He should have stayed with his early. Here's the only good song he ever wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ0odI8W2U4
You sure it isn't a parody ?
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 6:15:37 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 6:08:24 PM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 5:13:52 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
You keep saying that. I wonder what it is based on.Zappa's first album was Freak Out! You've seen the cover -- and you must have heard it, since you say that all of his records sucked. Was this a failed attempt at entering the mainstream?No, before he started recording he knew that he was never gonna be a artist with big hit records that appealed to regular people,
I used to live among (although i had little in common with) a bunch of New Agers. One of them would pronounce that "Musicians all wish they were movie stars. But they don't have the looks, so they play instruments instead."
This New Agery was false and stupid. Obviously.
Whose thoughts do you have direct access to? Which of Zappa's songs do you think he wished would be huge hits?However, I read your posts claiming Zappa secretly craved mainstream attention, and...it seems oddly reminiscent.Don't be naïve. EVERY recording artist wants their records to be huge hits.
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 9:14:30 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:These are 4 white Jews and Italians singing in a hardcore black vocal group style.
On 16/04/2022 6:38 am, Bruce wrote:
Zappa auditioned some friends of mine in the 1970s, the Sparrows Quartette. He totally did not get them and tried to have them go more mainstream and starting doing popular songs like "Under The Boardwalk" and "My Girl." They told him to fuck off.
I didn't realise that out of tune was a black vocal style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-mItJxedvU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM1EJ8pUBkk
You clearly know nothing about 1950s rhythm and blues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mux8F1iLCm4
I cannot imagine that in the 1950s rhythm and blues sung a cappella with weak voices, and out of tune was considered to be where it was at.
On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 4:03:54 AM UTC-4, geoff wrote:the early to mid-50s the people in these groups were usually still in high school, and you were getting their pure untrained street sound, uncurbed emotions not yet ruined by whitey who did not understand this music.
I cannot imagine that in the 1950s rhythm and blues sung a cappella with weak voices, and out of tune was considered to be where it was at.That's your problem, you can't recognize strong voices when you hear them because you are so unfamiliar with this style of music. And the "out of tune" part, if true here (I certainly don't trust your judgment) was part of the charm of this music. In
Your shit taste probably would prefer this fucking lame shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXJfT8IjBQc
On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 11:33:22 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:the early to mid-50s the people in these groups were usually still in high school, and you were getting their pure untrained street sound, uncurbed emotions not yet ruined by whitey who did not understand this music.
On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 4:03:54 AM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
I cannot imagine that in the 1950s rhythm and blues sung a cappella with >>> weak voices, and out of tune was considered to be where it was at.That's your problem, you can't recognize strong voices when you hear them because you are so unfamiliar with this style of music. And the "out of tune" part, if true here (I certainly don't trust your judgment) was part of the charm of this music. In
Your shit taste probably would prefer this fucking lame shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXJfT8IjBQc
Us cognoscenti prefer this reading:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YFr-o0AhsA
On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 4:03:54 AM UTC-4, geoff wrote:the early to mid-50s the people in these groups were usually still in high school, and you were getting their pure untrained street sound, uncurbed emotions not yet ruined by whitey who did not understand this music.
I cannot imagine that in the 1950s rhythm and blues sung a cappella with
weak voices, and out of tune was considered to be where it was at.
That's your problem, you can't recognize strong voices when you hear them because you are so unfamiliar with this style of music. And the "out of tune" part, if true here (I certainly don't trust your judgment) was part of the charm of this music. In
Your shit taste probably would prefer this fucking lame shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXJfT8IjBQc
On 17/04/2022 4:01 am, Bruce wrote:In the early to mid-50s the people in these groups were usually still in high school, and you were getting their pure untrained street sound, uncurbed emotions not yet ruined by whitey who did not understand this music.
On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 11:33:22 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 4:03:54 AM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
I cannot imagine that in the 1950s rhythm and blues sung a cappella with >>> weak voices, and out of tune was considered to be where it was at.That's your problem, you can't recognize strong voices when you hear them because you are so unfamiliar with this style of music. And the "out of tune" part, if true here (I certainly don't trust your judgment) was part of the charm of this music.
Your shit taste probably would prefer this fucking lame shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXJfT8IjBQc
Us cognoscenti prefer this reading:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YFr-o0AhsA
That The Simpsons ?
On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 7:03:53 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:In the early to mid-50s the people in these groups were usually still in high school, and you were getting their pure untrained street sound, uncurbed emotions not yet ruined by whitey who did not understand this music.
On 17/04/2022 4:01 am, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 11:33:22 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 4:03:54 AM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
I cannot imagine that in the 1950s rhythm and blues sung a cappella with >>>>> weak voices, and out of tune was considered to be where it was at.That's your problem, you can't recognize strong voices when you hear them because you are so unfamiliar with this style of music. And the "out of tune" part, if true here (I certainly don't trust your judgment) was part of the charm of this music.
That The Simpsons ?
Your shit taste probably would prefer this fucking lame shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXJfT8IjBQc
Us cognoscenti prefer this reading:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YFr-o0AhsA
That's some TV show, right? Never seen it.
On 17/04/2022 3:33 am, Bruce wrote:the early to mid-50s the people in these groups were usually still in high school, and you were getting their pure untrained street sound, uncurbed emotions not yet ruined by whitey who did not understand this music.
On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 4:03:54 AM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
I cannot imagine that in the 1950s rhythm and blues sung a cappella with >> weak voices, and out of tune was considered to be where it was at.
That's your problem, you can't recognize strong voices when you hear them because you are so unfamiliar with this style of music. And the "out of tune" part, if true here (I certainly don't trust your judgment) was part of the charm of this music. In
Yep, certainly a part of music and social history. But if you cannot
hear that The Sparrows (weak voices and out of tune), and The Gazelles
9lead singer strong voice, backing less so, and all pitch-challenged)
are singing in what is musically accepted as 'in tune', then you must be tone-deaf.
Your shit taste probably would prefer this fucking lame shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXJfT8IjBQcThat too is execrable in its own cheesy way.
Are you totally unable to stop living in the past (largely that you
didn't actually live in !) and attributing dubious values to music
simply because it is old or historical ?
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