https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
I case you missed the encore you gave a link to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkx9lwOLBOU
On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:45:33 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
I case you missed the encore you gave a link to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkx9lwOLBOU
She's a good singer. I'd have expected her to alter the gender references in the lyrics; maybe she declines to do so out of deference to the original.
On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:album oozes with great bass work from Paul, but she doesn't seem to take notice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
She's weak on the details in this commentary, IMO. She makes no note of George's great use of the Moog synthesizer, or of George's peaking as a songwriter and musician on this album. She doesn't remark on the guitar "battle" or Ringo's solo. The
I enjoyed Caroline's Beatles reviews in general, but I wish she had been more critical. In this case, she talks as if the whole album is wonderful. Does anyone really believe that "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" holds its own with "Come Together" and "Something"?
On 5/03/2022 4:23 am, Norbert K wrote:
On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
She's weak on the details in this commentary, IMO. She makes no note
of George's great use of the Moog synthesizer, or of George's peaking
as a songwriter and musician on this album. She doesn't remark on the
guitar "battle" or Ringo's solo. The album oozes with great bass
work from Paul, but she doesn't seem to take notice.
I enjoyed Caroline's Beatles reviews in general, but I wish she had
been more critical. In this case, she talks as if the whole album is
wonderful. Does anyone really believe that "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"
holds its own with "Come Together" and "Something"?
Does specifically mention pretty much any of the points that make yhis
one of the greatest albums ever.
Nearly slides off her chair during Something, but doesn't particularly mention the acme of George's song-writing and guitar parts, or one of
the most fantastic bass lines ever ( despite George initially
considering "too many notes").
Then she obsesses over relatively insignificant technical musical details.
And no mention of the pioneering and subtle synth parts that a a
significant aspect of Here Comes ....
In Because can't tell the difference between a brassy synth part and
actual 'brass'.
And no mention of the only real Beatles drum solo, or comment on the
epic 3-way guitar 'dual'.
And why she chopped the last abruptly-ending note off Her Majesty ?!!
That part of the fun.
She got the status of the album right in the general scheme of things
IMO, but seemed to totally miss much of the point, and details that were
well worthy of comment.
If people want more detail, this website worth checking out, details of
each song in the 'Songs' tab:
https://www.beatlesbible.com/
geoff
On 5/03/2022 4:23 am, Norbert K wrote:album oozes with great bass work from Paul, but she doesn't seem to take notice.
On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
She's weak on the details in this commentary, IMO. She makes no note of George's great use of the Moog synthesizer, or of George's peaking as a songwriter and musician on this album. She doesn't remark on the guitar "battle" or Ringo's solo. The
Something"?I enjoyed Caroline's Beatles reviews in general, but I wish she had been more critical. In this case, she talks as if the whole album is wonderful. Does anyone really believe that "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" holds its own with "Come Together" and "
Does specifically mention pretty much any of the points that make yhis
one of the greatest albums ever.
Nearly slides off her chair during Something, but doesn't particularly mention the acme of George's song-writing and guitar parts, or one of
the most fantastic bass lines ever ( despite George initially
considering "too many notes").
Then she obsesses over relatively insignificant technical musical details.
And no mention of the pioneering and subtle synth parts that a a
significant aspect of Here Comes ....
In Because can't tell the difference between a brassy synth part and
actual 'brass'.
And no mention of the only real Beatles drum solo, or comment on the
epic 3-way guitar 'dual'.
And why she chopped the last abruptly-ending note off Her Majesty ?!!
That part of the fun.
She got the status of the album right in the general scheme of things
IMO, but seemed to totally miss much of the point, and details that were well worthy of comment.
If people want more detail, this website worth checking out, details of
each song in the 'Songs' tab:
https://www.beatlesbible.com/
geoff
She's very generous with praise for the album, as is appropriate, but short on discernment. Maybe she was distracted by the popcorn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4I'm kind of surprised that she apparently loved the Beatles so much but is content to end without exploring the guys' post Beatles work.
On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 8:02:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
She's very generous with praise for the album, as is appropriate, but short on discernment. Maybe she was distracted by the popcorn.She's a musician so she analyzes differently than a big Beatles fan. She likes to show the chords and notes and give us a sample of how they are flowing rather than do discuss the individual personalities in the group.
On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 10:31:19 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:oblivious to in my first post in this thread. Geoff did this, too.
On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 8:02:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
She briefly analyzes some of the melodic and harmonic components to, I think, three of the songs. The bulk of her videos show her nodding, bobbing, and swaying to the music. I specified a number of the album's musical aspects that Caroline seemed oddlyShe's very generous with praise for the album, as is appropriate, but short on discernment. Maybe she was distracted by the popcorn.She's a musician so she analyzes differently than a big Beatles fan. She likes to show the chords and notes and give us a sample of how they are flowing rather than do discuss the individual personalities in the group.
Most of her videos merely show her enjoying the music. There's nothing particularly wrong with that. It's good to see a person in her age group appreciating the Beatles.
On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 8:02:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
She's very generous with praise for the album, as is appropriate, but short on discernment. Maybe she was distracted by the popcorn.
She's a musician so she analyzes differently than a big Beatles fan. She likes to show the chords and notes and give us a sample of how they are flowing rather than do discuss the individual personalities in the group.
On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
I'm kind of surprised that she apparently loved the Beatles so much but is content to end without exploring the guys' post Beatles work.
I enjoyed Caroline's Beatles reviews in general, but I wish she had been more critical. In this case, she talks as if the whole album is wonderful. Does anyone really believe that "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" holds its own with "Come Together" and "Something"?
On 6/03/2022 4:31 am, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 8:02:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
She's very generous with praise for the album, as is appropriate, but short on discernment. Maybe she was distracted by the popcorn.
She's a musician so she analyzes differently than a big Beatles fan. She likes to show the chords and notes and give us a sample of how they are flowing rather than do discuss the individual personalities in the group.I'm a musician too.
She doesn't mention major significant musical aspects, and then throws
in some simplistic musical trivia to attempt to bolster her kudos.
geoff
On 6/03/2022 4:31 am, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 8:02:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
She's very generous with praise for the album, as is appropriate, but short on discernment. Maybe she was distracted by the popcorn.
She's a musician so she analyzes differently than a big Beatles fan. She likes to show the chords and notes and give us a sample of how they are flowing rather than do discuss the individual personalities in the group.I'm a musician too.
She doesn't mention major significant musical aspects, and then throws
in some simplistic musical trivia to attempt to bolster her kudos.
In article <7c49dd4f-bf8d-4a6e-92e6-35af75a66b7an@googlegroups.com>,
Norbert K <norbertkosky69@gmail.com> wrote:
I enjoyed Caroline's Beatles reviews in general, but I wish she had been more
critical. In this case, she talks as if the whole album is wonderful. Does >> anyone really believe that "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" holds its own with "Come
Together" and "Something"?
I never thought "Come Together" was all that special and "Oh Darling!"
is one of the most annoying songs the Beatles ever recorded IMO, closely followed by "Maxwell's Silver Hammer." The only thing that saves side
one from total mediocrity is "Something."
On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 8:57:26 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:seemed equally pleased with LiB.
On 6/03/2022 4:31 am, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 8:02:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:I'm a musician too.
She's very generous with praise for the album, as is appropriate, but short on discernment. Maybe she was distracted by the popcorn.
She's a musician so she analyzes differently than a big Beatles fan. She likes to show the chords and notes and give us a sample of how they are flowing rather than do discuss the individual personalities in the group.
She doesn't mention major significant musical aspects, and then throws
in some simplistic musical trivia to attempt to bolster her kudos.
geoff
I complained earlier about numerous features of Abbey Road that Caroline missed. However, her "big picture" sense isn't there, either. She doesn't get how different -- how much more polished, cohesive, and formal -- Abbey Road is from Let It Be. She
On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 8:57:26 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 6/03/2022 4:31 am, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 8:02:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:I'm a musician too.
She's very generous with praise for the album, as is appropriate, but short on discernment. Maybe she was distracted by the popcorn.
She's a musician so she analyzes differently than a big Beatles fan. She likes to show the chords and notes and give us a sample of how they are flowing rather than do discuss the individual personalities in the group.
She doesn't mention major significant musical aspects, and then throws
in some simplistic musical trivia to attempt to bolster her kudos.
She's a musician, but she's not making the video for other musicians.
On 7/03/2022 3:45 am, super70s wrote:
In article <7c49dd4f-bf8d-4a6e...@googlegroups.com>,
Norbert K <norbert...@gmail.com> wrote:
I enjoyed Caroline's Beatles reviews in general, but I wish she had been more
critical. In this case, she talks as if the whole album is wonderful. Does >> anyone really believe that "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" holds its own with "Come
Together" and "Something"?
I never thought "Come Together" was all that special and "Oh Darling!"
is one of the most annoying songs the Beatles ever recorded IMO, closely followed by "Maxwell's Silver Hammer." The only thing that saves side
one from total mediocrity is "Something."
No, no, no, and no. Truly bizarre to me, but your opinion none-the-less.
Apart from Something, is there anything else you consider above mediocre ?
geoff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
I never did get the explanation of how it is that she has never heard most of the songs before. How old is she, anyway, and what desert island did she grow up on?
On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:that. Or did she get access to some digital master version of the album? Anyway, at the 11:10 mark where she does this for a passage of "Octopus's Garden" I was surprised at what cool contra-voicing was going on there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
Thanks for posting all of these, Bruce. I was surprised to scroll endlessly through the comments and find not one negative one, pretty unusual for YouTube comments.
I was pretty impressed at the enalysis of passages via some program like Reason or Logic Pro, I assume. I didn't realize that you could load an MP3 (again, my technical-Luddite assumption) into it and that it would break down all the instruments like
On 9/03/2022 9:25 am, Willie Williams wrote:that. Or did she get access to some digital master version of the album? Anyway, at the 11:10 mark where she does this for a passage of "Octopus's Garden" I was surprised at what cool contra-voicing was going on there.
On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
Thanks for posting all of these, Bruce. I was surprised to scroll endlessly through the comments and find not one negative one, pretty unusual for YouTube comments.
I was pretty impressed at the enalysis of passages via some program like Reason or Logic Pro, I assume. I didn't realize that you could load an MP3 (again, my technical-Luddite assumption) into it and that it would break down all the instruments like
The analysis was simplistic at best.
Not any fancy audio app being used, just a simple MIDI player, possibly
free or shareware. The level of gear she uses is also pretty low-end,
though adequate for purpose (not being a gear-snob here !).
They are simply MIDI file versions of the songs. Not derived from the original audio at all - compiled track-by-track by all sorts of people
on a music keyboard, computer-keyboard/mouse, and/or other musical controller device.
There are apps to reliably convert single melody lines into MIDI data,
and I'm sure the AI people are working on more sophisticated stuff to achieve what you suggest. At the moment results are very 'hot-and-miss'.
geoff
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 5:37:25 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:that. Or did she get access to some digital master version of the album? Anyway, at the 11:10 mark where she does this for a passage of "Octopus's Garden" I was surprised at what cool contra-voicing was going on there.
On 9/03/2022 9:25 am, Willie Williams wrote:
On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
Thanks for posting all of these, Bruce. I was surprised to scroll endlessly through the comments and find not one negative one, pretty unusual for YouTube comments.
I was pretty impressed at the enalysis of passages via some program like Reason or Logic Pro, I assume. I didn't realize that you could load an MP3 (again, my technical-Luddite assumption) into it and that it would break down all the instruments like
The analysis was simplistic at best.
Not any fancy audio app being used, just a simple MIDI player, possibly
free or shareware. The level of gear she uses is also pretty low-end,
though adequate for purpose (not being a gear-snob here !).
They are simply MIDI file versions of the songs. Not derived from the
original audio at all - compiled track-by-track by all sorts of people
on a music keyboard, computer-keyboard/mouse, and/or other musical
controller device.
There are apps to reliably convert single melody lines into MIDI data,
and I'm sure the AI people are working on more sophisticated stuff to
achieve what you suggest. At the moment results are very 'hot-and-miss'.
geoff
I'd have expected her to at least say something about the epic guitar duel. Not a word.
On 10/03/2022 2:44 am, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:like that. Or did she get access to some digital master version of the album? Anyway, at the 11:10 mark where she does this for a passage of "Octopus's Garden" I was surprised at what cool contra-voicing was going on there.
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 5:37:25 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 9/03/2022 9:25 am, Willie Williams wrote:
On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
Thanks for posting all of these, Bruce. I was surprised to scroll endlessly through the comments and find not one negative one, pretty unusual for YouTube comments.
I was pretty impressed at the enalysis of passages via some program like Reason or Logic Pro, I assume. I didn't realize that you could load an MP3 (again, my technical-Luddite assumption) into it and that it would break down all the instruments
The analysis was simplistic at best.
Not any fancy audio app being used, just a simple MIDI player, possibly >> free or shareware. The level of gear she uses is also pretty low-end,
though adequate for purpose (not being a gear-snob here !).
They are simply MIDI file versions of the songs. Not derived from the
original audio at all - compiled track-by-track by all sorts of people
on a music keyboard, computer-keyboard/mouse, and/or other musical
controller device.
There are apps to reliably convert single melody lines into MIDI data,
and I'm sure the AI people are working on more sophisticated stuff to
achieve what you suggest. At the moment results are very 'hot-and-miss'. >>
geoff
I'd have expected her to at least say something about the epic guitar duel. Not a word.
Well, she did move her head slightly in relation to the stereo panning,
but surprisingly for a musician didn't appear to realise it was any more than one part being played. Let alone more than one player in one of the most epic 3-way guitar duels in rock history !
geoff
On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 3:25:13 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:like that. Or did she get access to some digital master version of the album? Anyway, at the 11:10 mark where she does this for a passage of "Octopus's Garden" I was surprised at what cool contra-voicing was going on there.
On 10/03/2022 2:44 am, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 5:37:25 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 9/03/2022 9:25 am, Willie Williams wrote:
On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
Thanks for posting all of these, Bruce. I was surprised to scroll endlessly through the comments and find not one negative one, pretty unusual for YouTube comments.
I was pretty impressed at the enalysis of passages via some program like Reason or Logic Pro, I assume. I didn't realize that you could load an MP3 (again, my technical-Luddite assumption) into it and that it would break down all the instruments
etc...Well, she did move her head slightly in relation to the stereo panning,The analysis was simplistic at best.
Not any fancy audio app being used, just a simple MIDI player, possibly >>>> free or shareware. The level of gear she uses is also pretty low-end,
though adequate for purpose (not being a gear-snob here !).
They are simply MIDI file versions of the songs. Not derived from the
original audio at all - compiled track-by-track by all sorts of people >>>> on a music keyboard, computer-keyboard/mouse, and/or other musical
controller device.
There are apps to reliably convert single melody lines into MIDI data, >>>> and I'm sure the AI people are working on more sophisticated stuff to
achieve what you suggest. At the moment results are very 'hot-and-miss'. >>>>
geoff
I'd have expected her to at least say something about the epic guitar duel. Not a word.
but surprisingly for a musician didn't appear to realise it was any more
than one part being played. Let alone more than one player in one of the
most epic 3-way guitar duels in rock history !
geoff
Whatever this supposed guitar duel is, I'm not aware of it either. And none of the Beatles is considered some kind of special guitar player. They're known more for other things, like songwriting, vocal harmonies, inventive arrangements, studio tricks,
On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 3:25:13 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:like that. Or did she get access to some digital master version of the album? Anyway, at the 11:10 mark where she does this for a passage of "Octopus's Garden" I was surprised at what cool contra-voicing was going on there.
On 10/03/2022 2:44 am, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 5:37:25 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 9/03/2022 9:25 am, Willie Williams wrote:
On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
Thanks for posting all of these, Bruce. I was surprised to scroll endlessly through the comments and find not one negative one, pretty unusual for YouTube comments.
I was pretty impressed at the enalysis of passages via some program like Reason or Logic Pro, I assume. I didn't realize that you could load an MP3 (again, my technical-Luddite assumption) into it and that it would break down all the instruments
The analysis was simplistic at best.
Not any fancy audio app being used, just a simple MIDI player, possibly >> free or shareware. The level of gear she uses is also pretty low-end, >> though adequate for purpose (not being a gear-snob here !).
They are simply MIDI file versions of the songs. Not derived from the >> original audio at all - compiled track-by-track by all sorts of people >> on a music keyboard, computer-keyboard/mouse, and/or other musical
controller device.
There are apps to reliably convert single melody lines into MIDI data, >> and I'm sure the AI people are working on more sophisticated stuff to >> achieve what you suggest. At the moment results are very 'hot-and-miss'.
geoff
I'd have expected her to at least say something about the epic guitar duel. Not a word.
etc...Well, she did move her head slightly in relation to the stereo panning, but surprisingly for a musician didn't appear to realise it was any more than one part being played. Let alone more than one player in one of the most epic 3-way guitar duels in rock history !
geoffWhatever this supposed guitar duel is, I'm not aware of it either. And none of the Beatles is considered some kind of special guitar player. They're known more for other things, like songwriting, vocal harmonies, inventive arrangements, studio tricks,
On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 6:12:42 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:like that. Or did she get access to some digital master version of the album? Anyway, at the 11:10 mark where she does this for a passage of "Octopus's Garden" I was surprised at what cool contra-voicing was going on there.
On 10/03/2022 10:44 am, Bruce wrote:
On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 3:25:13 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 10/03/2022 2:44 am, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 5:37:25 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 9/03/2022 9:25 am, Willie Williams wrote:
On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
Thanks for posting all of these, Bruce. I was surprised to scroll endlessly through the comments and find not one negative one, pretty unusual for YouTube comments.
I was pretty impressed at the enalysis of passages via some program like Reason or Logic Pro, I assume. I didn't realize that you could load an MP3 (again, my technical-Luddite assumption) into it and that it would break down all the instruments
etc...Well, she did move her head slightly in relation to the stereo panning, >>>> but surprisingly for a musician didn't appear to realise it was any more >>>> than one part being played. Let alone more than one player in one of the >>>> most epic 3-way guitar duels in rock history !The analysis was simplistic at best.
Not any fancy audio app being used, just a simple MIDI player, possibly >>>>>> free or shareware. The level of gear she uses is also pretty low-end, >>>>>> though adequate for purpose (not being a gear-snob here !).
They are simply MIDI file versions of the songs. Not derived from the >>>>>> original audio at all - compiled track-by-track by all sorts of people >>>>>> on a music keyboard, computer-keyboard/mouse, and/or other musical >>>>>> controller device.
There are apps to reliably convert single melody lines into MIDI data, >>>>>> and I'm sure the AI people are working on more sophisticated stuff to >>>>>> achieve what you suggest. At the moment results are very 'hot-and-miss'. >>>>>>
geoff
I'd have expected her to at least say something about the epic guitar duel. Not a word.
geoff
Whatever this supposed guitar duel is, I'm not aware of it either. And none of the Beatles is considered some kind of special guitar player. They're known more for other things, like songwriting, vocal harmonies, inventive arrangements, studio tricks,
approximately 53 seconds into the song. Geoff Emerick, the Beatles' recording engineer, later recalled: "John, Paul and George looked like they had gone back in time, like they were kids again, playing together for the sheer enjoyment of it. More thanYou what ?!!!! Surely you are jesting ?
00:53 to 01:30 on The End.
Paul starts on left, then George in the middle, and John on the right,
and so on.
Only one of the most memorable Beatles moments ever. And right up there
in all of modern music.
Yeah right. I just listened to it. It's not even very good. Just an average guitar break for the time.
"All of modern music" my fucking ass.
Here's the description of it on Wikipedia. Doesn't sound like any all time great moment to me.
McCartney, George Harrison and Lennon perform a rotating sequence of three, two-bar guitar solos. The idea for a guitar instrumental over this section was Harrison's, and Lennon suggested that the three of them each play a section. The solos begin
On 10/03/2022 10:44 am, Bruce wrote:like that. Or did she get access to some digital master version of the album? Anyway, at the 11:10 mark where she does this for a passage of "Octopus's Garden" I was surprised at what cool contra-voicing was going on there.
On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 3:25:13 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 10/03/2022 2:44 am, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 5:37:25 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 9/03/2022 9:25 am, Willie Williams wrote:
On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
Thanks for posting all of these, Bruce. I was surprised to scroll endlessly through the comments and find not one negative one, pretty unusual for YouTube comments.
I was pretty impressed at the enalysis of passages via some program like Reason or Logic Pro, I assume. I didn't realize that you could load an MP3 (again, my technical-Luddite assumption) into it and that it would break down all the instruments
etc...Well, she did move her head slightly in relation to the stereo panning, >> but surprisingly for a musician didn't appear to realise it was any more >> than one part being played. Let alone more than one player in one of the >> most epic 3-way guitar duels in rock history !The analysis was simplistic at best.
Not any fancy audio app being used, just a simple MIDI player, possibly >>>> free or shareware. The level of gear she uses is also pretty low-end, >>>> though adequate for purpose (not being a gear-snob here !).
They are simply MIDI file versions of the songs. Not derived from the >>>> original audio at all - compiled track-by-track by all sorts of people >>>> on a music keyboard, computer-keyboard/mouse, and/or other musical
controller device.
There are apps to reliably convert single melody lines into MIDI data, >>>> and I'm sure the AI people are working on more sophisticated stuff to >>>> achieve what you suggest. At the moment results are very 'hot-and-miss'.
geoff
I'd have expected her to at least say something about the epic guitar duel. Not a word.
geoff
Whatever this supposed guitar duel is, I'm not aware of it either. And none of the Beatles is considered some kind of special guitar player. They're known more for other things, like songwriting, vocal harmonies, inventive arrangements, studio tricks,
You what ?!!!! Surely you are jesting ?
00:53 to 01:30 on The End.
Paul starts on left, then George in the middle, and John on the right,
and so on.
Only one of the most memorable Beatles moments ever. And right up there
in all of modern music.
As you like. Others, who have a clue, may differ.
On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 9:01:36 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
As you like. Others, who have a clue, may differ.
Eat dick, dork. I have WAY more of a clue than you when it comes to the historical facts about popular music.
Here are some different lists of the greatest moments in popular music history. I don't see your stupid "three way guitar duel" anywhere.
https://watchmojo.com/video/id/35997
https://www.history101.com/15-iconic-moments-in-music-history/
https://stacker.com/stories/4280/100-iconic-moments-music-history
On 10/03/2022 3:49 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 9:01:36 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
As you like. Others, who have a clue, may differ.
Eat dick, dork. I have WAY more of a clue than you when it comes to the historical facts about popular music.
Here are some different lists of the greatest moments in popular music history. I don't see your stupid "three way guitar duel" anywhere.
https://watchmojo.com/video/id/35997
https://www.history101.com/15-iconic-moments-in-music-history/
https://stacker.com/stories/4280/100-iconic-moments-music-historyYou may know selected popular historical shallow 'facts', but apparently
not actual musical appreciation.
Many (most ?) who have anything more than a face-value appreciation of especially the later Beatles music would get more out of The End (esp
the solo/s) than you, apparently.
And even more poignant by being at the very culmination of The Beatles' output .
On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 11:18:01 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 10/03/2022 3:49 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 9:01:36 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:You may know selected popular historical shallow 'facts', but apparently
As you like. Others, who have a clue, may differ.
Eat dick, dork. I have WAY more of a clue than you when it comes to the historical facts about popular music.
Here are some different lists of the greatest moments in popular music history. I don't see your stupid "three way guitar duel" anywhere.
https://watchmojo.com/video/id/35997
https://www.history101.com/15-iconic-moments-in-music-history/
https://stacker.com/stories/4280/100-iconic-moments-music-history
not actual musical appreciation.
Many (most ?) who have anything more than a face-value appreciation of
especially the later Beatles music would get more out of The End (esp
the solo/s) than you, apparently.
And even more poignant by being at the very culmination of The Beatles'
output .
You've got your head up your ass. There are TENS OF THOUSANDS of better moments for music appreciation that this stupid mediocre 3 guitar battle.
The 3 different solos in this are far more famous:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bt1qBVQTNM
The trombone solo in this is infinitely more famous:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtTSzSIgzAo
The sax break in this is WAY more famous and interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4IGVn4W9oo
Satch's solo in this is WAY more famous and significant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WPCBieSESI
Stop sucking the Beatles dicks already!
OK, so you prefer a different style of music and don't even appear to
like guitar or The Beatles. So why are you even here ?
On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 11:39:13 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
OK, so you prefer a different style of music and don't even appear to
like guitar or The Beatles. So why are you even here ?
The Beatles are my second favorite artist of all time. Doesn't mean I am not well versed in all kinds of Popular Music, unlike you, who thinks that music started and ended with the Mop Tops.
There are lots of guitar players among my 100 favorite artists of all time.
1 - Fats Domino
2 - Beatles - GUITAR
3 - Elvis Presley - GUITAR
4 - Little Richard
5 - Hank Williams - GUITAR
6 - Joe Turner
7 - Drifters
8 - Muddy Waters - GUITAR
9 - Smiley Lewis - GUITAR
10 - Clovers - GUITAR
11 - Carl Perkins - GUITAR
12 - Buddy Holly & Crickets - GUITAR
13 - B.B. King - GUITAR
14 - Bo Diddley - GUITAR
15 - Hank Ballard & Midnighters / Royals
16 - Chuck Berry - GUITAR
17 - James Brown
18 - Howlin' Wolf - GUITAR
19 - Wynonie Harris
20 - Robins
21 - Orioles - GUITAR
22 - Five Royales - GUITAR
23 - Creedence Clearwater Revival / John Fogerty - GUITAR
24 - Five Keys
25 - Ray Charles
26 - Rolling Stones - GUITAR
27 - Beach Boys - GUITAR
28 - Jerry Lee Lewis
29 - Spaniels
30 - Temptations
31 - Elmore James - GUITAR
32 - Bobby "Blue" Bland
33 - Sonny Boy Williamson II (Rice Miller)
34 - Sticks McGhee - GUITAR
35 - Huey "Piano" Smith and the Clowns
36 - Dominoes
37 - Johnny Burnette Trio - GUITAR
38 - Louis Jordan
39 - Spiders
40 - Flamingos
41 - Moonglows
42 - Coasters
43 - Curtis Mayfield & Impressions - GUITAR
44 - Eddie Cochran - GUITAR
45 - Lloyd Price
46 - Bill Haley & Comets - GUITAR
47 - Buddy & Ella Johnson
48 - Ivory Joe Hunter
49 - Swallows
50 - Little Walter
51 - Jimmy Reed - GUITAR
52 - Everly Brothers - GUITAR
53 - Gene Vincent & Blue Caps - GUITAR
54 - Johnny Cash - GUITAR
55 - Amos Milburn
56 - Roy Brown
57 - Jack Scott - GUITAR
58 - El Dorados
59 - Dave Bartholomew
60 - Champion Jack Dupree
61 - Roy Orbison - GUITAR
62 - Smokey Robinson & Miracles
63 - Checkers
64 - Jimmy McCracklin
65 - Little Esther
66 - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson
67 - Marvin Gaye
68 - Tommy James & Shondells - GUITAR
69 - Jackie Wilson
70 - Mills Brothers - GUITAR
71 - Ruth Brown
72 - Bob Dylan - GUITAR
73 - Shirley & Lee
74 - Aretha Franklin
75 - Dells
76 - Wilson Pickett
77 - Little Milton - GUITAR
78 - Marvin & Johnny (Jesse & Marvin)
79 - Heartbeats / Shep & Limelites
80 - Harptones
81 - Doors - GUITAR
82 - Little Willie John
83 - Ravens
84 - Marty Robbins - GUITAR
85 - Lamplighters
86 - Willie Mabon
87 - Guitar Slim - GUITAR
88 - Solomon Burke
89 - Jerry Butler
90 - Roy Milton
91 - Rosco Gordon
92 - Charlie Feathers - GUITAR
93 - Penguins
94 - J.B. Lenore - GUITAR
95 - Big Maybelle
96 - Cadillacs
97 - Chuck Willis
98 - Mac Curtis - GUITAR
99 - Cardinals
100 - Slim Harpo - GUITAR
On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 6:12:42 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:instruments like that. Or did she get access to some digital master version of the album? Anyway, at the 11:10 mark where she does this for a passage of "Octopus's Garden" I was surprised at what cool contra-voicing was going on there.
On 10/03/2022 10:44 am, Bruce wrote:
On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 3:25:13 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 10/03/2022 2:44 am, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 5:37:25 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 9/03/2022 9:25 am, Willie Williams wrote:
On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
Thanks for posting all of these, Bruce. I was surprised to scroll endlessly through the comments and find not one negative one, pretty unusual for YouTube comments.
I was pretty impressed at the enalysis of passages via some program like Reason or Logic Pro, I assume. I didn't realize that you could load an MP3 (again, my technical-Luddite assumption) into it and that it would break down all the
tricks, etc...Well, she did move her head slightly in relation to the stereo panning, >> but surprisingly for a musician didn't appear to realise it was any moreThe analysis was simplistic at best.
Not any fancy audio app being used, just a simple MIDI player, possibly
free or shareware. The level of gear she uses is also pretty low-end, >>>> though adequate for purpose (not being a gear-snob here !).
They are simply MIDI file versions of the songs. Not derived from the >>>> original audio at all - compiled track-by-track by all sorts of people
on a music keyboard, computer-keyboard/mouse, and/or other musical >>>> controller device.
There are apps to reliably convert single melody lines into MIDI data,
and I'm sure the AI people are working on more sophisticated stuff to >>>> achieve what you suggest. At the moment results are very 'hot-and-miss'.
geoff
I'd have expected her to at least say something about the epic guitar duel. Not a word.
than one part being played. Let alone more than one player in one of the
most epic 3-way guitar duels in rock history !
geoff
Whatever this supposed guitar duel is, I'm not aware of it either. And none of the Beatles is considered some kind of special guitar player. They're known more for other things, like songwriting, vocal harmonies, inventive arrangements, studio
approximately 53 seconds into the song. Geoff Emerick, the Beatles' recording engineer, later recalled: "John, Paul and George looked like they had gone back in time, like they were kids again, playing together for the sheer enjoyment of it. More thanYou what ?!!!! Surely you are jesting ?
00:53 to 01:30 on The End.
Paul starts on left, then George in the middle, and John on the right,
and so on.
Only one of the most memorable Beatles moments ever. And right up thereYeah right. I just listened to it. It's not even very good. Just an average guitar break for the time.
in all of modern music.
"All of modern music" my fucking ass.
Here's the description of it on Wikipedia. Doesn't sound like any all time great moment to me.
McCartney, George Harrison and Lennon perform a rotating sequence of three, two-bar guitar solos. The idea for a guitar instrumental over this section was Harrison's, and Lennon suggested that the three of them each play a section. The solos begin
It is obvious that Emerick knew he was witnessing something momentous and it is obvious to every Beatles fan I've ever known that this is an important moment in the band's history.
Totally false. A little pre-Beatles, and lots post-Beatles because I
didn't listen to a lot of contemporary music in (and before) my childhood.
You do rather restrict yourself to a very specific era. I don't.
And your Beatles ignorance is astounding.
Each soloist has a completely different sound and style. The "battle" is widely analyzed (as on the Mike Pachelli video -- and numerous others) and debated, but everyone knows it's Paul, George and John. In saying that "Most Beatles fans are unawarethat the solo is even played by 3 different people," you're trying to project your own astounding lack of discernment onto most fans.
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 6:10:38 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
It is obvious that Emerick knew he was witnessing something momentous and it is obvious to every Beatles fan I've ever known that this is an important moment in the band's history.Like you've discussed this shit with EVERY Beatles fan you've EVER known. Either you're a fucking liar, or you only know a couple of Beatles fans.
Most Beatles fans are unaware that the solo is even played by 3 different people.
I wonder if this thing even made this book?
The Beatles 100: One Hundred Pivotal Moments in Beatles History
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41j607RZRCS._SX326_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 2:06:20 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
Totally false. A little pre-Beatles, and lots post-Beatles because I
didn't listen to a lot of contemporary music in (and before) my childhood.
I wasn't born until 1957, but unlike you, I don't just like what I heard growing up. I seriously explored everything that came before I was around. You seem to think that music only started mattering after you cared about it.
You do rather restrict yourself to a very specific era. I don't.
Sure you do. You barely even know any music before the 1960s.
And your Beatles ignorance is astounding.
Your pre-Beatles musical ignorance is unbelievably huge. I'll bet you can't even name one song by giants like Duke Ellington, Charlie Parker, Paul Whiteman and Lightning Hopkins.
Go jerk off while you pretend one of the Mop Tops is sucking your tiny pecker.
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 12:17:54 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:that the solo is even played by 3 different people," you're trying to project your own astounding lack of discernment onto most fans.
Each soloist has a completely different sound and style. The "battle" is widely analyzed (as on the Mike Pachelli video -- and numerous others) and debated, but everyone knows it's Paul, George and John. In saying that "Most Beatles fans are unaware
MOST fans are not at all interested in those kind of details. They just like hearing the music. The Abbey Road Medley is my girlfriend's favorite Beatles recording, and she has no idea what this three guitar battle is.
I bet she loves that part, even though she is ignorant of the technical
and historical musical aspects. That's not a criticism of her.
And if made aware of it she would gain even more joy from hearing it in
that context.
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 3:48:00 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
How about Shostakovich, Bach, Mussorgsky? Have seen Dave Brubeck and Acker Bilk live.
All white guys, okay, we know where you're at.
So how about, if you want race/era/name-droppingto be a factor, Joan Armatrading, Tracy Chapman, Nora Jones, Grace Jones. That would account
for over 30 CDs I own.
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 5:50:19 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
So how about, if you want race/era/name-droppingto be a factor, Joan
Armatrading, Tracy Chapman, Nora Jones, Grace Jones. That would account
for over 30 CDs I own.
All genetically black acts that do music that is mainly done by whites. That's why they are acceptable to you.
How about some REAL black music, like James Brown, Joe Simon, Little Milton, Parliament, Funkadelic, Bobby Bland, the Delfonics, Aretha Franklin, Irma Thomas, Luther Vandross, Gladys Knight & the Pips, Isley Brothers, Kool & the Gang, Tyrone Davis,Manhattans, Johnny Taylor, Little Johnnie Taylor, Bobby Womack, Chi-Lites, Barry White, Al Green, Gene Chandler, Dramatics, Rick James, Millie Jackson, Betty Wright.
That's 26 artists. How many CD do you own by these 26 acts?
But I don't feel guilty that I prefer my 'list', and the likes of Floyd (Pink, not Anderson), Supertramp, Simply Red, APP, Focus, Genesis, Tull,
Dire Straits, Stones, etc. All to do with style(s) of music, not the
racial origins of the members.
On 11/03/2022 1:10 pm, Bruce wrote:Manhattans, Johnny Taylor, Little Johnnie Taylor, Bobby Womack, Chi-Lites, Barry White, Al Green, Gene Chandler, Dramatics, Rick James, Millie Jackson, Betty Wright.
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 5:50:19 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
So how about, if you want race/era/name-droppingto be a factor, Joan
Armatrading, Tracy Chapman, Nora Jones, Grace Jones. That would account >> for over 30 CDs I own.
All genetically black acts that do music that is mainly done by whites. That's why they are acceptable to you.Que ?
How about some REAL black music, like James Brown, Joe Simon, Little Milton, Parliament, Funkadelic, Bobby Bland, the Delfonics, Aretha Franklin, Irma Thomas, Luther Vandross, Gladys Knight & the Pips, Isley Brothers, Kool & the Gang, Tyrone Davis,
That's 26 artists. How many CD do you own by these 26 acts?
7 or 8 : JB, Parliament, and Funkadelic, Green, Aretha.
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 8:25:18 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
But I don't feel guilty that I prefer my 'list', and the likes of Floyd
(Pink, not Anderson), Supertramp, Simply Red, APP, Focus, Genesis, Tull,
Dire Straits, Stones, etc. All to do with style(s) of music, not the
racial origins of the members.
Of course. You prefer all the white styles best.
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 8:25:18 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:Manhattans, Johnny Taylor, Little Johnnie Taylor, Bobby Womack, Chi-Lites, Barry White, Al Green, Gene Chandler, Dramatics, Rick James, Millie Jackson, Betty Wright.
On 11/03/2022 1:10 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 5:50:19 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:Que ?
So how about, if you want race/era/name-droppingto be a factor, Joan
Armatrading, Tracy Chapman, Nora Jones, Grace Jones. That would account >>>> for over 30 CDs I own.
All genetically black acts that do music that is mainly done by whites. That's why they are acceptable to you.
How about some REAL black music, like James Brown, Joe Simon, Little Milton, Parliament, Funkadelic, Bobby Bland, the Delfonics, Aretha Franklin, Irma Thomas, Luther Vandross, Gladys Knight & the Pips, Isley Brothers, Kool & the Gang, Tyrone Davis,
7 or 8 : JB, Parliament, and Funkadelic, Green, Aretha.
That's 26 artists. How many CD do you own by these 26 acts?
I'm sure if you actually do have 7 or 8 that they are full of cobwebs.
On 11/03/2022 2:59 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 8:25:18 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
But I don't feel guilty that I prefer my 'list', and the likes of Floyd
(Pink, not Anderson), Supertramp, Simply Red, APP, Focus, Genesis, Tull, >> Dire Straits, Stones, etc. All to do with style(s) of music, not the
racial origins of the members.
Of course. You prefer all the white styles best.Your characterisation of styles is hugely flawed.
I don't discriminate on anything other than what appeals to my ear and
mind, and that has nothing to do with race.
Possibly. My least likely to be 'full of cobwebs' just now would be Joan
A and Duke. You Look Good To Me is one of my fave tracks, and for a 1965 album extremely hi-fi. Even have it on SACD. One of my reference bass
tracks.
And me being a bassist (as well as other instruments), Bootsie is right
up there too.
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 9:11:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
Possibly. My least likely to be 'full of cobwebs' just now would be Joan
A and Duke. You Look Good To Me is one of my fave tracks, and for a 1965
album extremely hi-fi. Even have it on SACD. One of my reference bass
tracks.
And me being a bassist (as well as other instruments), Bootsie is right
up there too.
So you play upright and electric?
What do you think of Leonard Gaskin?
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 11:09:45 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 11/03/2022 4:14 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 9:11:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
Possibly. My least likely to be 'full of cobwebs' just now would be Joan
A and Duke. You Look Good To Me is one of my fave tracks, and for a 1965
album extremely hi-fi. Even have it on SACD. One of my reference bass >> tracks.
And me being a bassist (as well as other instruments), Bootsie is right >> up there too.
So you play upright and electric?'Upright' only Ashbory, and my Ibanez MC940 fretless.
Don't you need an upright to play "You Look Good To Me" the way the record sounds? I'm not a huge jazz fan, but I certainly think that the acoustic bass is a must for that sound.
On 11/03/2022 4:14 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 9:11:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
Possibly. My least likely to be 'full of cobwebs' just now would be Joan >> A and Duke. You Look Good To Me is one of my fave tracks, and for a 1965 >> album extremely hi-fi. Even have it on SACD. One of my reference bass
tracks.
And me being a bassist (as well as other instruments), Bootsie is right
up there too.
So you play upright and electric?'Upright' only Ashbory, and my Ibanez MC940 fretless.
What do you think of Leonard Gaskin?Not aware of him as an individual. Just looked him up from what I
saw/heard not a patch on Ray Brown.
Of course I haven't heard much of Gaskin, but what I have heard doesn't inspire me to go searching for more.
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 11:09:45 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 11/03/2022 4:14 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 9:11:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:'Upright' only Ashbory, and my Ibanez MC940 fretless.
Possibly. My least likely to be 'full of cobwebs' just now would be Joan >>>> A and Duke. You Look Good To Me is one of my fave tracks, and for a 1965 >>>> album extremely hi-fi. Even have it on SACD. One of my reference bass
tracks.
And me being a bassist (as well as other instruments), Bootsie is right >>>> up there too.
So you play upright and electric?
Don't you need an upright to play "You Look Good To Me" the way the record sounds?
What do you think of Leonard Gaskin?Not aware of him as an individual. Just looked him up from what I
saw/heard not a patch on Ray Brown.
Of course I haven't heard much of Gaskin, but what I have heard doesn't
inspire me to go searching for more.
He did a lot of studio work, including playing on Dylan's first album. His last couple of years were spent in the nursing home my girlfriend used to work in. Played on a lot of stuff for my Grandfather at Savoy, including this classic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPMZZeKekk8
On 11/03/2022 5:35 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 11:09:45 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 11/03/2022 4:14 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 9:11:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:'Upright' only Ashbory, and my Ibanez MC940 fretless.
Possibly. My least likely to be 'full of cobwebs' just now would be Joan >>>> A and Duke. You Look Good To Me is one of my fave tracks, and for a 1965 >>>> album extremely hi-fi. Even have it on SACD. One of my reference bass >>>> tracks.
And me being a bassist (as well as other instruments), Bootsie is right >>>> up there too.
So you play upright and electric?
Don't you need an upright to play "You Look Good To Me" the way the record sounds?Closest on the Ashbory (except the bowed part), but WTF has that got do
do with anything ?
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 5:18:04 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 11/03/2022 5:35 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 11:09:45 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:Closest on the Ashbory (except the bowed part), but WTF has that got do
On 11/03/2022 4:14 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 9:11:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:'Upright' only Ashbory, and my Ibanez MC940 fretless.
Possibly. My least likely to be 'full of cobwebs' just now would be Joan >>>>>> A and Duke. You Look Good To Me is one of my fave tracks, and for a 1965 >>>>>> album extremely hi-fi. Even have it on SACD. One of my reference bass >>>>>> tracks.
And me being a bassist (as well as other instruments), Bootsie is right >>>>>> up there too.
So you play upright and electric?
Don't you need an upright to play "You Look Good To Me" the way the record sounds?
do with anything ?
I didn't get why you would warm up to a recording that uses an upright acoustic bass if you don't have one.
On 12/03/2022 4:21 am, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 5:18:04 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 11/03/2022 5:35 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 11:09:45 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:Closest on the Ashbory (except the bowed part), but WTF has that got do
On 11/03/2022 4:14 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 9:11:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:'Upright' only Ashbory, and my Ibanez MC940 fretless.
Possibly. My least likely to be 'full of cobwebs' just now would be Joan
A and Duke. You Look Good To Me is one of my fave tracks, and for a 1965
album extremely hi-fi. Even have it on SACD. One of my reference bass >>>>>> tracks.
And me being a bassist (as well as other instruments), Bootsie is right
up there too.
So you play upright and electric?
Don't you need an upright to play "You Look Good To Me" the way the record sounds?
do with anything ?
I didn't get why you would warm up to a recording that uses an upright acoustic bass if you don't have one.Why would I need to have an instrument in order to heavily like music
that involved it ?!!! That would makes one's musical aoppreciation
extremely restricted.
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 6:45:49 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 12/03/2022 4:21 am, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 5:18:04 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:Why would I need to have an instrument in order to heavily like music
On 11/03/2022 5:35 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 11:09:45 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:Closest on the Ashbory (except the bowed part), but WTF has that got do >>>> do with anything ?
On 11/03/2022 4:14 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 9:11:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:'Upright' only Ashbory, and my Ibanez MC940 fretless.
Possibly. My least likely to be 'full of cobwebs' just now would be Joan
A and Duke. You Look Good To Me is one of my fave tracks, and for a 1965
album extremely hi-fi. Even have it on SACD. One of my reference bass >>>>>>>> tracks.
And me being a bassist (as well as other instruments), Bootsie is right
up there too.
So you play upright and electric?
Don't you need an upright to play "You Look Good To Me" the way the record sounds?
I didn't get why you would warm up to a recording that uses an upright acoustic bass if you don't have one.
that involved it ?!!! That would makes one's musical aoppreciation
extremely restricted.
I'm not saying you can't like it. I'm saying that if you are going to play your bass along with a recording why pick a recording that does not include the type of bass that you are playing?
But there is no reason why an upright acoustic bass part can't be played
on a fretless electric bass guitar (which could sound nearly identical),
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 7:43:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
But there is no reason why an upright acoustic bass part can't be played
on a fretless electric bass guitar (which could sound nearly identical),
You're out of your fucking mind if you think that there's no difference in how and acoustic bass sounds and how ANY kind of electric bass sounds playing the same piece. It's not even close to sounding the same.
On 12/03/2022 2:23 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 7:43:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
But there is no reason why an upright acoustic bass part can't be played >> on a fretless electric bass guitar (which could sound nearly identical),
You're out of your fucking mind if you think that there's no difference in how and acoustic bass sounds and how ANY kind of electric bass sounds playing the same piece. It's not even close to sounding the same.Of course you know this from experience.
A fretless electric bass, especially with muted strings, can sound not
too far off, if imitation is your criteria.
But why should it have to in the first place ? Not everybody is so anally-retentive about the minutiae of sound.
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 8:36:19 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 12/03/2022 2:23 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 7:43:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:Of course you know this from experience.
You're out of your fucking mind if you think that there's no difference in how and acoustic bass sounds and how ANY kind of electric bass sounds playing the same piece. It's not even close to sounding the same.
But there is no reason why an upright acoustic bass part can't be played >>>> on a fretless electric bass guitar (which could sound nearly identical), >>>
A fretless electric bass, especially with muted strings, can sound not
too far off, if imitation is your criteria.
But why should it have to in the first place ? Not everybody is so
anally-retentive about the minutiae of sound.
I don't see the difference between acoustic and electric bass as anywhere close to minutiae. Do you also think that the difference between acoustic and electric guitar is minutiae?
I can ALWAYS tell instantly when a recording has electric or acoustic bass, and for me, acoustic is ALWAYS better except for funk recordings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1KOwvPgu4Y
On 12/03/2022 5:11 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 8:36:19 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 12/03/2022 2:23 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 7:43:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:Of course you know this from experience.
You're out of your fucking mind if you think that there's no difference in how and acoustic bass sounds and how ANY kind of electric bass sounds playing the same piece. It's not even close to sounding the same.
But there is no reason why an upright acoustic bass part can't be played >>>> on a fretless electric bass guitar (which could sound nearly identical), >>>
A fretless electric bass, especially with muted strings, can sound not
too far off, if imitation is your criteria.
But why should it have to in the first place ? Not everybody is so
anally-retentive about the minutiae of sound.
I don't see the difference between acoustic and electric bass as anywhere close to minutiae. Do you also think that the difference between acoustic and electric guitar is minutiae?No, but obsessing over whether or not it is significant is.
I can ALWAYS tell instantly when a recording has electric or acoustic bass, and for me, acoustic is ALWAYS better except for funk recordings.Pleased for you.
I actually like this below almost as much as the Beatles version because
it has an acoustic bass.
If you want to split hairs then I have an acoustic bass. And it's not
upright and it's not fretless.https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ysf9fppdytbjtl/Ibanez%20Talman%20acoustic%20bass%20w.pickup.jpg?dl=0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1KOwvPgu4Y
It's OK. No better or worse than any other bass line just because of the instrument.
We get it. You get a stiffy almost exclusively for upright basses.
On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 12:52:37 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 12/03/2022 5:11 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 8:36:19 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:No, but obsessing over whether or not it is significant is.
On 12/03/2022 2:23 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 7:43:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:Of course you know this from experience.
You're out of your fucking mind if you think that there's no difference in how and acoustic bass sounds and how ANY kind of electric bass sounds playing the same piece. It's not even close to sounding the same.
But there is no reason why an upright acoustic bass part can't be played >>>>>> on a fretless electric bass guitar (which could sound nearly identical), >>>>>
A fretless electric bass, especially with muted strings, can sound not >>>> too far off, if imitation is your criteria.
But why should it have to in the first place ? Not everybody is so
anally-retentive about the minutiae of sound.
I don't see the difference between acoustic and electric bass as anywhere close to minutiae. Do you also think that the difference between acoustic and electric guitar is minutiae?
Pleased for you.
I can ALWAYS tell instantly when a recording has electric or acoustic bass, and for me, acoustic is ALWAYS better except for funk recordings.
I actually like this below almost as much as the Beatles version because
it has an acoustic bass.
If you want to split hairs then I have an acoustic bass. And it's not
upright and it's not
fretless.https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ysf9fppdytbjtl/Ibanez%20Talman%20acoustic%20bass%20w.pickup.jpg?dl=0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1KOwvPgu4Y
It's OK. No better or worse than any other bass line just because of the
instrument.
We get it. You get a stiffy almost exclusively for upright basses.
They have a COMPLETELY different sound than an electric bass, and I'm sure vastly different than your guitar shaped acoustic. A must for rockabilly and jazz. You can't get this kind of sound from anything but an upright acoustic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggi5Tq3XDRI
And then there is the Ashbory which is pretty much an exact upright sound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t33mxAKVj4
On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 3:42:03 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
And then there is the Ashbory which is pretty much an exact upright sound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t33mxAKVj4If you think that this sounds ANYWHERE NEAR an "exact upright sound" you need some of this:
https://images.freshop.com/00042037104795/9c4c88065b4f89174ce22396f55926ca_large.png
On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 10:14:39 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 3:42:03 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
If you think that this sounds ANYWHERE NEAR an "exact upright sound" you need some of this:
And then there is the Ashbory which is pretty much an exact upright sound. >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t33mxAKVj4
https://images.freshop.com/00042037104795/9c4c88065b4f89174ce22396f55926ca_large.png
Just play Lou Reed's "Walk on the Wild Side". Herbie Flowers electric and standup basses are fugued together!!
The sonic differences are distinctly displayed here!!
On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 3:42:03 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
And then there is the Ashbory which is pretty much an exact upright sound. >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t33mxAKVj4
If you think that this sounds ANYWHERE NEAR an "exact upright sound" you need some of this:
https://images.freshop.com/00042037104795/9c4c88065b4f89174ce22396f55926ca_large.png
On 12/03/2022 7:31 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 12:52:37 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 12/03/2022 5:11 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 8:36:19 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:No, but obsessing over whether or not it is significant is.
On 12/03/2022 2:23 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 7:43:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:Of course you know this from experience.
But there is no reason why an upright acoustic bass part can't be played
on a fretless electric bass guitar (which could sound nearly identical),
You're out of your fucking mind if you think that there's no difference in how and acoustic bass sounds and how ANY kind of electric bass sounds playing the same piece. It's not even close to sounding the same.
A fretless electric bass, especially with muted strings, can sound not >>>> too far off, if imitation is your criteria.
But why should it have to in the first place ? Not everybody is so
anally-retentive about the minutiae of sound.
I don't see the difference between acoustic and electric bass as anywhere close to minutiae. Do you also think that the difference between acoustic and electric guitar is minutiae?
Pleased for you.
I can ALWAYS tell instantly when a recording has electric or acoustic bass, and for me, acoustic is ALWAYS better except for funk recordings.
I actually like this below almost as much as the Beatles version because >> it has an acoustic bass.
If you want to split hairs then I have an acoustic bass. And it's not
upright and it's not
fretless.https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ysf9fppdytbjtl/Ibanez%20Talman%20acoustic%20bass%20w.pickup.jpg?dl=0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1KOwvPgu4Y
It's OK. No better or worse than any other bass line just because of the >> instrument.
We get it. You get a stiffy almost exclusively for upright basses.
They have a COMPLETELY different sound than an electric bass, and I'm sure vastly different than your guitar shaped acoustic. A must for rockabilly and jazz. You can't get this kind of sound from anything but an upright acoustic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggi5Tq3XDRIhttps://lmgtfy.app/?q=https%3A%2F%2Flmgtfy.app%2F%3Fq%3Dfretless%2Belectric%2Bbass%2Bupright%2Bsound&iie=1
But what would they all know.
Actually I can do better on by fretless Ibanez than any of these - with muting, scooped EQ and a sharper picking angle I can even get a good
slap bass sound.
And then there is the Ashbory which is pretty much an exact upright sound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t33mxAKVj4
geoff
On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 3:42:03 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 12/03/2022 7:31 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 12:52:37 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 12/03/2022 5:11 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 8:36:19 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:No, but obsessing over whether or not it is significant is.
On 12/03/2022 2:23 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 7:43:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:Of course you know this from experience.
But there is no reason why an upright acoustic bass part can't be played
on a fretless electric bass guitar (which could sound nearly identical),
You're out of your fucking mind if you think that there's no difference in how and acoustic bass sounds and how ANY kind of electric bass sounds playing the same piece. It's not even close to sounding the same.
A fretless electric bass, especially with muted strings, can sound not >>>> too far off, if imitation is your criteria.
But why should it have to in the first place ? Not everybody is so >>>> anally-retentive about the minutiae of sound.
I don't see the difference between acoustic and electric bass as anywhere close to minutiae. Do you also think that the difference between acoustic and electric guitar is minutiae?
Pleased for you.
I can ALWAYS tell instantly when a recording has electric or acoustic bass, and for me, acoustic is ALWAYS better except for funk recordings.
I actually like this below almost as much as the Beatles version because >> it has an acoustic bass.
If you want to split hairs then I have an acoustic bass. And it's not
upright and it's not
fretless.https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ysf9fppdytbjtl/Ibanez%20Talman%20acoustic%20bass%20w.pickup.jpg?dl=0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1KOwvPgu4Y
It's OK. No better or worse than any other bass line just because of the >> instrument.
We get it. You get a stiffy almost exclusively for upright basses.
They have a COMPLETELY different sound than an electric bass, and I'm sure vastly different than your guitar shaped acoustic. A must for rockabilly and jazz. You can't get this kind of sound from anything but an upright acoustic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggi5Tq3XDRIhttps://lmgtfy.app/?q=https%3A%2F%2Flmgtfy.app%2F%3Fq%3Dfretless%2Belectric%2Bbass%2Bupright%2Bsound&iie=1
But what would they all know.
Actually I can do better on by fretless Ibanez than any of these - with muting, scooped EQ and a sharper picking angle I can even get a good
slap bass sound.
And then there is the Ashbory which is pretty much an exact upright sound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t33mxAKVj4
geoffThat thing sounds amazing. I never even tried one -- to my shame.
On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 8:41:39 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:What are the Ashbory's strings made from?
On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 3:42:03 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 12/03/2022 7:31 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 12:52:37 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
On 12/03/2022 5:11 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 8:36:19 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:No, but obsessing over whether or not it is significant is.
On 12/03/2022 2:23 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 7:43:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:Of course you know this from experience.
But there is no reason why an upright acoustic bass part can't be played
on a fretless electric bass guitar (which could sound nearly identical),
You're out of your fucking mind if you think that there's no difference in how and acoustic bass sounds and how ANY kind of electric bass sounds playing the same piece. It's not even close to sounding the same.
A fretless electric bass, especially with muted strings, can sound not
too far off, if imitation is your criteria.
But why should it have to in the first place ? Not everybody is so >>>> anally-retentive about the minutiae of sound.
I don't see the difference between acoustic and electric bass as anywhere close to minutiae. Do you also think that the difference between acoustic and electric guitar is minutiae?
Pleased for you.
I can ALWAYS tell instantly when a recording has electric or acoustic bass, and for me, acoustic is ALWAYS better except for funk recordings.
I actually like this below almost as much as the Beatles version because
it has an acoustic bass.
If you want to split hairs then I have an acoustic bass. And it's not >> upright and it's not
fretless.https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ysf9fppdytbjtl/Ibanez%20Talman%20acoustic%20bass%20w.pickup.jpg?dl=0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1KOwvPgu4Y
It's OK. No better or worse than any other bass line just because of the
instrument.
We get it. You get a stiffy almost exclusively for upright basses.
They have a COMPLETELY different sound than an electric bass, and I'm sure vastly different than your guitar shaped acoustic. A must for rockabilly and jazz. You can't get this kind of sound from anything but an upright acoustic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggi5Tq3XDRIhttps://lmgtfy.app/?q=https%3A%2F%2Flmgtfy.app%2F%3Fq%3Dfretless%2Belectric%2Bbass%2Bupright%2Bsound&iie=1
But what would they all know.
Actually I can do better on by fretless Ibanez than any of these - with muting, scooped EQ and a sharper picking angle I can even get a good
slap bass sound.
And then there is the Ashbory which is pretty much an exact upright sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t33mxAKVj4
https://youtu.be/2CmnKprLoAsgeoffThat thing sounds amazing. I never even tried one -- to my shame.
Now, that's how you minimally maximize your rhythm section, baby!!
On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 10:03:00 AM UTC-4, dennis...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 8:41:39 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:What are the Ashbory's strings made from?
On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 3:42:03 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:https://youtu.be/2CmnKprLoAs
On 12/03/2022 7:31 pm, Bruce wrote:That thing sounds amazing. I never even tried one -- to my shame.
On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 12:52:37 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:https://lmgtfy.app/?q=https%3A%2F%2Flmgtfy.app%2F%3Fq%3Dfretless%2Belectric%2Bbass%2Bupright%2Bsound&iie=1
On 12/03/2022 5:11 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 8:36:19 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:No, but obsessing over whether or not it is significant is.
On 12/03/2022 2:23 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 7:43:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote: >>>>>>>>>>Of course you know this from experience.
But there is no reason why an upright acoustic bass part can't be played
on a fretless electric bass guitar (which could sound nearly identical),
You're out of your fucking mind if you think that there's no difference in how and acoustic bass sounds and how ANY kind of electric bass sounds playing the same piece. It's not even close to sounding the same.
A fretless electric bass, especially with muted strings, can sound not >>>>>>>> too far off, if imitation is your criteria.
But why should it have to in the first place ? Not everybody is so >>>>>>>> anally-retentive about the minutiae of sound.
I don't see the difference between acoustic and electric bass as anywhere close to minutiae. Do you also think that the difference between acoustic and electric guitar is minutiae?
Pleased for you.
I can ALWAYS tell instantly when a recording has electric or acoustic bass, and for me, acoustic is ALWAYS better except for funk recordings.
I actually like this below almost as much as the Beatles version because >>>>>> it has an acoustic bass.
If you want to split hairs then I have an acoustic bass. And it's not >>>>>> upright and it's not
fretless.https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ysf9fppdytbjtl/Ibanez%20Talman%20acoustic%20bass%20w.pickup.jpg?dl=0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1KOwvPgu4Y
It's OK. No better or worse than any other bass line just because of the >>>>>> instrument.
We get it. You get a stiffy almost exclusively for upright basses.
They have a COMPLETELY different sound than an electric bass, and I'm sure vastly different than your guitar shaped acoustic. A must for rockabilly and jazz. You can't get this kind of sound from anything but an upright acoustic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggi5Tq3XDRI
But what would they all know.
Actually I can do better on by fretless Ibanez than any of these - with >>>> muting, scooped EQ and a sharper picking angle I can even get a good
slap bass sound.
And then there is the Ashbory which is pretty much an exact upright sound. >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t33mxAKVj4
geoff
Now, that's how you minimally maximize your rhythm section, baby!!
On 14/03/2022 9:54 am, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 10:03:00 AM UTC-4, dennis...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 8:41:39 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:What are the Ashbory's strings made from?
On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 3:42:03 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:https://youtu.be/2CmnKprLoAs
On 12/03/2022 7:31 pm, Bruce wrote:That thing sounds amazing. I never even tried one -- to my shame.
On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 12:52:37 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:https://lmgtfy.app/?q=https%3A%2F%2Flmgtfy.app%2F%3Fq%3Dfretless%2Belectric%2Bbass%2Bupright%2Bsound&iie=1
On 12/03/2022 5:11 pm, Bruce wrote:They have a COMPLETELY different sound than an electric bass, and I'm sure vastly different than your guitar shaped acoustic. A must for rockabilly and jazz. You can't get this kind of sound from anything but an upright acoustic.
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 8:36:19 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:No, but obsessing over whether or not it is significant is.
On 12/03/2022 2:23 pm, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 7:43:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote: >>>>>>>>>>Of course you know this from experience.
But there is no reason why an upright acoustic bass part can't be played
on a fretless electric bass guitar (which could sound nearly identical),
You're out of your fucking mind if you think that there's no difference in how and acoustic bass sounds and how ANY kind of electric bass sounds playing the same piece. It's not even close to sounding the same.
A fretless electric bass, especially with muted strings, can sound not
too far off, if imitation is your criteria.
But why should it have to in the first place ? Not everybody is so >>>>>>>> anally-retentive about the minutiae of sound.
I don't see the difference between acoustic and electric bass as anywhere close to minutiae. Do you also think that the difference between acoustic and electric guitar is minutiae?
Pleased for you.
I can ALWAYS tell instantly when a recording has electric or acoustic bass, and for me, acoustic is ALWAYS better except for funk recordings.
I actually like this below almost as much as the Beatles version because
it has an acoustic bass.
If you want to split hairs then I have an acoustic bass. And it's not >>>>>> upright and it's not
fretless.https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ysf9fppdytbjtl/Ibanez%20Talman%20acoustic%20bass%20w.pickup.jpg?dl=0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1KOwvPgu4Y
It's OK. No better or worse than any other bass line just because of the
instrument.
We get it. You get a stiffy almost exclusively for upright basses. >>>>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggi5Tq3XDRI
But what would they all know.
Actually I can do better on by fretless Ibanez than any of these - with >>>> muting, scooped EQ and a sharper picking angle I can even get a good >>>> slap bass sound.
And then there is the Ashbory which is pretty much an exact upright sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t33mxAKVj4
geoff
Now, that's how you minimally maximize your rhythm section, baby!!
Silicone rubber. Sound is fun and usable at a pinch, but hard to play
very accurately in tune - due to the short fretboard.
geoff
On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 5:19:09 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
On 14/03/2022 9:54 am, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 10:03:00 AM UTC-4, dennis...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 8:41:39 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:Silicone rubber. Sound is fun and usable at a pinch, but hard to play
What are the Ashbory's strings made from?On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 3:42:03 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:https://youtu.be/2CmnKprLoAs
On 12/03/2022 7:31 pm, Bruce wrote:That thing sounds amazing. I never even tried one -- to my shame.
On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 12:52:37 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:https://lmgtfy.app/?q=https%3A%2F%2Flmgtfy.app%2F%3Fq%3Dfretless%2Belectric%2Bbass%2Bupright%2Bsound&iie=1
On 12/03/2022 5:11 pm, Bruce wrote:They have a COMPLETELY different sound than an electric bass, and I'm sure vastly different than your guitar shaped acoustic. A must for rockabilly and jazz. You can't get this kind of sound from anything but an upright acoustic.
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 8:36:19 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 12/03/2022 2:23 pm, Bruce wrote:No, but obsessing over whether or not it is significant is.
On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 7:43:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>Of course you know this from experience.
But there is no reason why an upright acoustic bass part can't be played
on a fretless electric bass guitar (which could sound nearly identical),
You're out of your fucking mind if you think that there's no difference in how and acoustic bass sounds and how ANY kind of electric bass sounds playing the same piece. It's not even close to sounding the same.
A fretless electric bass, especially with muted strings, can sound not
too far off, if imitation is your criteria.
But why should it have to in the first place ? Not everybody is so >>>>>>>>>> anally-retentive about the minutiae of sound.
I don't see the difference between acoustic and electric bass as anywhere close to minutiae. Do you also think that the difference between acoustic and electric guitar is minutiae?
Pleased for you.
I can ALWAYS tell instantly when a recording has electric or acoustic bass, and for me, acoustic is ALWAYS better except for funk recordings.
I actually like this below almost as much as the Beatles version because
it has an acoustic bass.
If you want to split hairs then I have an acoustic bass. And it's not >>>>>>>> upright and it's not
fretless.https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ysf9fppdytbjtl/Ibanez%20Talman%20acoustic%20bass%20w.pickup.jpg?dl=0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1KOwvPgu4Y
It's OK. No better or worse than any other bass line just because of the
instrument.
We get it. You get a stiffy almost exclusively for upright basses. >>>>>>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggi5Tq3XDRI
But what would they all know.
Actually I can do better on by fretless Ibanez than any of these - with >>>>>> muting, scooped EQ and a sharper picking angle I can even get a good >>>>>> slap bass sound.
And then there is the Ashbory which is pretty much an exact upright sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t33mxAKVj4
geoff
Now, that's how you minimally maximize your rhythm section, baby!!
very accurately in tune - due to the short fretboard.
geoff
How much are they?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
I don't know how much of a Beatles fan she really was. She may have used the reviews as a gimmick to gain subscribers and interest in her own, very un-Beatlesy stuff. However, she gave us fans something to talk about and debate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
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