• breaking the rules

    From Mark-T@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 24 17:36:45 2022
    Every song writer knows that the cadence of the
    lyrics must match the natural cadence of the
    language. And the rhythm has to enforce that.

    For instance, if 'Sunday' appears, and the singer is
    forced to pronounce SunDAY, that will hurt the listener's ears.

    But occasionally, this rule is breakable.
    As example, Irving Berlin's "White Christmas".
    In natural speech, one would stress:
    "I'm DREAMING of a white CHRISTMAS."

    Not heavy stresses, but still there, subtle. But actually,
    the song is performed as:
    "I'M dreaming of a WHITE Christmas."

    And it works, beautifully!
    Interviewer: "Is that the best song you ever wrote?"
    Berlin: "It's the best song ANYBODY ever wrote."

    So, quiz time, gang: can you find any such examples
    in the GDead opus?


    Mark

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  • From Band Beyond Youall@21:1/5 to Mark-T on Sun Sep 25 07:59:36 2022
    Mark-T <mark-t2@lycos.com> wrote:
    Every song writer knows that the cadence of the
    lyrics must match the natural cadence of the
    language. And the rhythm has to enforce that.

    For instance, if 'Sunday' appears, and the singer is
    forced to pronounce SunDAY, that will hurt the listener's ears.

    But occasionally, this rule is breakable.
    As example, Irving Berlin's "White Christmas".
    In natural speech, one would stress:
    "I'm DREAMING of a white CHRISTMAS."

    Not heavy stresses, but still there, subtle. But actually,
    the song is performed as:
    "I'M dreaming of a WHITE Christmas."

    And it works, beautifully!
    Interviewer: "Is that the best song you ever wrote?"
    Berlin: "It's the best song ANYBODY ever wrote."

    So, quiz time, gang: can you find any such examples
    in the GDead opus?


    Mark


    “His job is to shed light 💡… not to MASTER”


    Probably there’re a lot more examples, particularly in the
    irregular-cadence Hunter and Weir/Barlow canon, but I haven’t had enough coffee yet to think more deeply on this topic…

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  • From Mark-T@21:1/5 to Band Beyond Youall on Mon Sep 26 10:50:52 2022
    On September 25, Band Beyond Youall wrote:
    Every song writer knows that the cadence of the
    lyrics must match the natural cadence of the
    language. And the rhythm has to enforce that.
    For instance, if 'Sunday' appears, and the singer is
    forced to pronounce SunDAY, that will hurt the listener's ears.
    But occasionally, this rule is breakable.
    As example, Irving Berlin's "White Christmas".
    In natural speech, one would stress:
    "I'm DREAMING of a white CHRISTMAS."
    Not heavy stresses, but still there, subtle. But actually,
    the song is performed as:
    "I'M dreaming of a WHITE Christmas."
    And it works, beautifully!
    can you find any such examples in the GDead opus?

    “His job is to shed light 💡… not to MASTER”

    In speech: "His job is to shed LIGHT... "
    Sing: "His job is TO SHED light..."

    Yes, that's an example.
    Acceptable, though not brilliant, I'd say -

    Probably there’re a lot more examples, particularly in the irregular-cadence Hunter and Weir/Barlow canon, but I haven’t had enough coffee yet to think more deeply on this topic…

    A couple of cases in Jack Straw -

    Mark

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  • From Mark-T@21:1/5 to Mark-T on Thu Sep 29 11:33:57 2022
    On September 26, Mark-T wrote:
    Every song writer knows that the cadence of the
    lyrics must match the natural cadence of the
    language. And the rhythm has to enforce that.
    But occasionally, this rule is breakable.
    As example, Irving Berlin's "White Christmas".
    In natural speech, one would stress:
    "I'm DREAMING of a white CHRISTMAS."
    Not heavy stresses, but still there, subtle. But actually,
    the song is performed as:
    "I'M dreaming of a WHITE Christmas."
    And it works, beautifully!
    can you find any such examples in the GDead opus?

    Probably there’re a lot more examples, particularly in the
    irregular-cadence Hunter and Weir/Barlow canon, but I haven’t had enough >> coffee yet to think more deeply on this topic…

    A couple of cases in Jack Straw -

    "Catch the DEtroit Lightning out of Santa Fe"
    (note the irregular stress)
    (correctly pronounced:) https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/Fr-Le_D%C3%A9troit.ogg

    "WE can share the women..."

    Scarlet Begonias:
    "I knew right away she was not like other girls"
    (emphasis on "I")

    Mark

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to Mark-T on Thu Sep 29 13:00:55 2022
    On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 11:33:58 AM UTC-7, Mark-T wrote:
    On September 26, Mark-T wrote:
    Every song writer knows that the cadence of the
    lyrics must match the natural cadence of the
    language. And the rhythm has to enforce that.
    But occasionally, this rule is breakable.
    As example, Irving Berlin's "White Christmas".
    In natural speech, one would stress:
    "I'm DREAMING of a white CHRISTMAS."
    Not heavy stresses, but still there, subtle. But actually,
    the song is performed as:
    "I'M dreaming of a WHITE Christmas."
    And it works, beautifully!
    can you find any such examples in the GDead opus?

    Probably there’re a lot more examples, particularly in the
    irregular-cadence Hunter and Weir/Barlow canon, but I haven’t had enough
    coffee yet to think more deeply on this topic…

    A couple of cases in Jack Straw -
    "Catch the DEtroit Lightning out of Santa Fe"
    (note the irregular stress)
    (correctly pronounced:) https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/Fr-Le_D%C3%A9troit.ogg

    DEtroit is more of an old-timer pronunciation. Canadians have been known to say it that way it too.

    Knew an old bartender from KC, Navy veteran, who always talked about how he served on the DEtroit at Pearl Harbor.

    "WE can share the women..."

    Scarlet Begonias:
    "I knew right away she was not like other girls"
    (emphasis on "I")

    Mark

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