• RIP Lou Ottens: The man who started it all

    From Just Kidding@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 13 00:11:07 2021
    Would the GD phenomenon ever have happened without this man?

    Lou Ottens, Father of Countless Mixtapes, Is Dead at 94 https://1clickurls.com/ZNCR5uT

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  • From Band Beyond You@21:1/5 to Just Kidding on Sat Mar 13 15:35:49 2021
    Just Kidding <JustKidding@comcast.net> wrote:
    Would the GD phenomenon ever have happened without this man?

    Lou Ottens, Father of Countless Mixtapes, Is Dead at 94 https://1clickurls.com/ZNCR5uT



    I coincidentally just rented a documentary about him two weeks ago:
    Cassette: A Documentary Mixtape. Highly recommended.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4236310/

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  • From yoker56@21:1/5 to Band Beyond You on Sat Mar 13 18:06:21 2021
    On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 2:35:51 AM UTC-5, Band Beyond You wrote:

    I coincidentally just rented a documentary about him two weeks ago:
    Cassette: A Documentary Mixtape. Highly recommended.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4236310/


    This documentary didn't mention the Grateful Dead or our tape trading community.

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  • From yoker56@21:1/5 to Just Kidding on Sat Mar 13 18:15:30 2021
    On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 12:11:10 AM UTC-5, Just Kidding wrote:
    Would the GD phenomenon ever have happened without this man?

    Lou Ottens, Father of Countless Mixtapes, Is Dead at 94 https://1clickurls.com/ZNCR5uT


    It probably would have, but at a much different scale and pace. I believe I saw a
    picture of somebody whth a stash of GD reel tapes in "Grateful Dead:
    The Official Book of the Deadheads"

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  • From Band Beyond You@21:1/5 to reisteter.joel@gmail.com on Sun Mar 14 14:41:09 2021
    yoker56 <reisteter.joel@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 2:35:51 AM UTC-5, Band Beyond You wrote:

    I coincidentally just rented a documentary about him two weeks ago:
    Cassette: A Documentary Mixtape. Highly recommended.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4236310/


    This documentary didn't mention the Grateful Dead or our tape trading community.


    Yeah, and...?

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  • From yoker56@21:1/5 to Band Beyond You on Sun Mar 14 09:46:21 2021
    On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 1:41:12 AM UTC-5, Band Beyond You wrote:


    Yeah, and...?

    What?

    It was noted some time ago that there was a significant about of blank tape sales to
    fans of the Grateful Dead, according to a wholesale group, who in turn
    got their info from retailers.
    Something like 15%.

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  • From Band Beyond You@21:1/5 to reisteter.joel@gmail.com on Mon Mar 15 01:01:26 2021
    yoker56 <reisteter.joel@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 1:41:12 AM UTC-5, Band Beyond You wrote:


    Yeah, and...?

    What?

    It was noted some time ago that there was a significant about of blank tape sales to
    fans of the Grateful Dead, according to a wholesale group, who in turn
    got their info from retailers.
    Something like 15%.



    It’s not what the movie was about.

    The Grateful Dead accounted for some sales at some point among some people,
    but otherwise were clearly just a blip fraction in the overall scheme of
    things in the cassette narrative and trajectory, as the NYT quoted:
    “Philips says *100 billion* cassettes have been sold worldwide.”

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  • From yoker56@21:1/5 to Band Beyond You on Sun Mar 14 10:08:58 2021
    On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 1:01:30 PM UTC-4, Band Beyond You wrote:
    yoker56 <reistet...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 1:41:12 AM UTC-5, Band Beyond You wrote:


    Yeah, and...?

    What?

    It was noted some time ago that there was a significant about of blank tape sales to
    fans of the Grateful Dead, according to a wholesale group, who in turn
    got their info from retailers.
    Something like 15%.


    It’s not what the movie was about.

    The Grateful Dead accounted for some sales at some point among some people, but otherwise were clearly just a blip fraction in the overall scheme of things in the cassette narrative and trajectory, as the NYT quoted: “Philips says *100 billion* cassettes have been sold worldwide.”


    It was more about Philips product development team, which Mr. Ottens headed.
    By watching this docu, it was a team effort and not solely Otten's total idea. He was only part of the story.

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