But most cymbals have a stamp of the manufacturer. That's more of what I was asking about. I'm glad to know if a Zildjian is a Scimitar or a ZBT (so I
can run screaming), so in that respect the labeling has become kind of necessary, but you can tell those cymbals without the model printed on them. It's the permanent stamp I'm concerned with - I'm surprised a company like Zildjian would send a cymbal out without one, even if it is meant for a retailer to "rebrand". Know what I mean?
"JVN " <dw...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20010928091056...@mb-mj.aol.com...
I don't know that the cymbals Z made for Manny's were even "seconds". Ihave
seen and played two previously and they were as good as anything else I've heard from Z. The pitch to consumers would have been "this is a cymbalthat
Zildjian makes exclusively for Manny's", not "This is a crappy cymbal thatwe
bought for cheap dollars". That was also at a time where they made acymbal and
it was not labeled "light", "heavy", "dark", or even "ride", "crash" etc.It
was just a cymbal and it was up to the drummer, not the company how itwould be
used (What a concept!). The companies didn't catch on to the idea oflabeling
them with a description/model name until after Bill Crowden in Chicago had great success doing it himself with a rubber stamp in the back room of his shop.
Where there is no vision, people perish. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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