On Wednesday, 18 June 1997 17:00:00 UTC+10, Michael J. Salo wrote:

see subject.

It's so unbelievably overdone and so pointless. It gets so f---ing
old. I'm going to kill the next generic electro band that puts Robocop
or Bladerunner quotes in the middle of their songs.

So anyway, I'm wondering:

1) who was the first band to incorporate movie samples into industrial/electro music?

and

2) who was the first to shamelessly overuse and make a mockery of the
whole concept?

I suspect front line ASSembly for #2. I won't make a guess on #1.

Silver Bullet used the "20 seconds to comply" robocop ED-209 speech in his 1989 "20 seconds to comply" song. That's the earliest one I know of.

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On Thursday, June 19, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, owen f wrote:

On Wed, 18 Jun 1997 21:39:45 -0400, "Michael J. Salo"
<fstfashn@pacbell.net> wrote:

2) who was the first to shamelessly overuse and make a mockery of the
whole concept?

Well, PWEI uses a HELL of a lot of samples.

And some of Negativland's stuff is JUST samples. I don't know -
sometimes samples can be realy good - you have to be careful with
them.

Favourite sample: The Electric Helfire Club - Mr.44 - "I like girls a
lot. I like pretty girls. I only shoot pretty girls." (don't know
where it's from...)

NP: Wipers - The Pod (What a shitty album - I boughit it because I
liked the case, and now I'm forcing myself to listen to it, to "get my money's worth")

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On Thursday, June 19, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, owen f wrote:

On Wed, 18 Jun 1997 21:39:45 -0400, "Michael J. Salo"
<fstfashn@pacbell.net> wrote:

2) who was the first to shamelessly overuse and make a mockery of the
whole concept?

Well, PWEI uses a HELL of a lot of samples.

And some of Negativland's stuff is JUST samples. I don't know -
sometimes samples can be realy good - you have to be careful with
them.

Favourite sample: The Electric Helfire Club - Mr.44 - "I like girls a
lot. I like pretty girls. I only shoot pretty girls." (don't know
where it's from...)

NP: Wipers - The Pod (What a shitty album - I boughit it because I
liked the case, and now I'm forcing myself to listen to it, to "get my money's worth")

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Im here because I`m trying to figure out what movie clip Chemlab used on "Exile on Mainline" from "East side Militia" I have found the clip on youtube before, so I know someone has posted it before, but I want to see the movie to find out if it is any
good.

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I like the idea of people using movie samples to create "textures" within the music itself. Skinny Puppy did a lot of this.. puppy is also guilty of playing random voice samples from movies, though.

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The movie is Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia

The sample in Exile..
"Get out, god damn it! You son of a bitch, I'll kill you right there! Will you get - god damned move when I say move, you motherfucker!"

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