• Sonola Rivoli Accordion

    From R Cole Bouck@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 7 16:19:38 2021
    Looking for a way to get an honest appraisal of this family accordion. Lansing, MI, USA here. Any suggestions?

    Instrument:
    • Accordion Type: Full Size Piano Accordion
    • Color: Ivory
    • Brand: Sonola
    • Model: Rivoli (Model # Unknown)
    • Country/Region: Italy
    • Dimensions: Case = 21.5”W x 18”D x 9.5” H
    Accordion Overall = 19.5”W x 16.25”D x 8.5”H
    Keyboard = 19.5”W x 5”D
    • Weight: Accordion & Case = 28 lbs; Accordion 20 lbs.

    Features:
    • Detailed photos available.
    • Number of Treble Keys: 41
    • Number of Bass Buttons: 120
    • Number of Treble Register Switches: 7
    • Number of Bass Register Switches: 3
    • Includes Straps: Yes
    • Includes Case: Yes

    Condition:
    • Used
    • Excellent vintage condition (including bellows).
    • One minor indentation on front left grill; otherwise, no damage just minimal age-related patina.
    • All straps are in like-new condition, no cracking or splitting.
    • Flat and fast keyboard. No sticking key.
    • Tight bellows. No leaking. No odors/smells.
    • Original hard case with felt-lined interior exhibits no signs of structural or functional damage, just cosmetic wear from normal use.

    Narrative:
    This item belonged to a family member who played quite proficiently in probably the later 1930’s perhaps through the 1940’s.

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  • From Ike Milligan@21:1/5 to R Cole Bouck on Sun Mar 7 21:41:53 2021
    On 3/7/2021 7:19 PM, R Cole Bouck wrote:
    Looking for a way to get an honest appraisal of this family accordion. Lansing, MI, USA here. Any suggestions?

    Instrument:
    • Accordion Type: Full Size Piano Accordion
    • Color: Ivory
    • Brand: Sonola
    • Model: Rivoli (Model # Unknown)
    • Country/Region: Italy
    • Dimensions: Case = 21.5”W x 18”D x 9.5” H
    Accordion Overall = 19.5”W x 16.25”D x 8.5”H
    Keyboard = 19.5”W x 5”D
    • Weight: Accordion & Case = 28 lbs; Accordion 20 lbs.

    Features:
    • Detailed photos available.
    • Number of Treble Keys: 41
    • Number of Bass Buttons: 120
    • Number of Treble Register Switches: 7
    • Number of Bass Register Switches: 3
    • Includes Straps: Yes
    • Includes Case: Yes

    Condition:
    • Used
    • Excellent vintage condition (including bellows).
    • One minor indentation on front left grill; otherwise, no damage just minimal age-related patina.
    • All straps are in like-new condition, no cracking or splitting.
    • Flat and fast keyboard. No sticking key.
    • Tight bellows. No leaking. No odors/smells.
    • Original hard case with felt-lined interior exhibits no signs of structural or functional damage, just cosmetic wear from normal use.

    Narrative:
    This item belonged to a family member who played quite proficiently in probably the later 1930’s perhaps through the 1940’s.

    Sonola was a good accordion. I could tell a lot more if I saw a picture
    of it. you can email me no more than 3 photos because my email server
    has a 100 megabyte limit. accordiondoc@nanospring.com only change "nano"
    to "mind" in the email

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  • From Ike Milligan@21:1/5 to Ike Milligan on Mon Mar 8 11:53:06 2021
    On 3/7/2021 9:41 PM, Ike Milligan wrote:
    On 3/7/2021 7:19 PM, R Cole Bouck wrote:
    Looking for a way to get an honest appraisal of this family accordion.
    Lansing, MI, USA here. Any suggestions?

    Instrument:
    •    Accordion Type:     Full Size Piano Accordion
    •    Color:     Ivory
    •    Brand:     Sonola
    •    Model:     Rivoli (Model # Unknown)
    •    Country/Region:    Italy
    •    Dimensions:    Case = 21.5”W x 18”D x 9.5” H
        Accordion Overall = 19.5”W x 16.25”D x 8.5”H
        Keyboard = 19.5”W x 5”D
    •    Weight:    Accordion & Case = 28 lbs; Accordion 20 lbs.

    Features:
    •    Detailed photos available.
    •    Number of Treble Keys:     41
    •    Number of Bass Buttons:     120
    •    Number of Treble Register Switches:     7
    •    Number of Bass Register Switches:     3
    •    Includes Straps:     Yes
    •    Includes Case:     Yes

    Condition:
    •    Used
    •    Excellent vintage condition (including bellows).
    •    One minor indentation on front left grill; otherwise, no damage
    just minimal age-related patina.
    •    All straps are in like-new condition, no cracking or splitting.
    •    Flat and fast keyboard. No sticking key.
    •    Tight bellows. No leaking. No odors/smells.
    •    Original hard case with felt-lined interior exhibits no signs of >> structural or functional damage, just cosmetic wear from normal use.

    Narrative:
    This item belonged to a family member who played quite proficiently in
    probably the later 1930’s perhaps through the 1940’s.

    Sonola was a good accordion. I could tell a lot more if I saw a picture
    of it. you can email me no more than 3 photos because my email server
    has a 100 megabyte limit. accordiondoc@nanospring.com only change "nano"
    to "mind" in the email
    I have seen the pics. This is a very popular Rivoli model. It seems to
    have the 17" keyboard, as the others I have seen looking just like it.
    The switches show an LMH configuration which rules out the more popular
    (these days) musette tuning which some of the identical models could
    have with the LMM. From the description it would still be great to play
    pop, jazz and Klezmer, not so desirable among players of the Celtic
    genre, though as they say "To each his own", because with great Sonola
    reeds you could accomplish anything.
    From the description and the photos it looks to be in great shape and
    try to get at least a few hundred for it.

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  • From R Cole Bouck@21:1/5 to ronal...@gmail.com on Mon Mar 8 17:16:47 2021
    On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 6:41:48 PM UTC-5, ronal...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 4:19:39 PM UTC-8, rcb...@gmail.com wrote:
    Looking for a way to get an honest appraisal of this family accordion. Lansing, MI, USA here. Any suggestions?

    Instrument:
    • Accordion Type: Full Size Piano Accordion
    • Color: Ivory
    • Brand: Sonola
    • Model: Rivoli (Model # Unknown)
    • Country/Region: Italy
    • Dimensions: Case = 21.5”W x 18”D x 9.5” H
    Accordion Overall = 19.5”W x 16.25”D x 8.5”H
    Keyboard = 19.5”W x 5”D
    • Weight: Accordion & Case = 28 lbs; Accordion 20 lbs.

    Features:
    • Detailed photos available.
    • Number of Treble Keys: 41
    • Number of Bass Buttons: 120
    • Number of Treble Register Switches: 7
    • Number of Bass Register Switches: 3
    • Includes Straps: Yes
    • Includes Case: Yes

    Condition:
    • Used
    • Excellent vintage condition (including bellows).
    • One minor indentation on front left grill; otherwise, no damage just minimal age-related patina.
    • All straps are in like-new condition, no cracking or splitting.
    • Flat and fast keyboard. No sticking key.
    • Tight bellows. No leaking. No odors/smells.
    • Original hard case with felt-lined interior exhibits no signs of structural or functional damage, just cosmetic wear from normal use.

    Narrative:
    This item belonged to a family member who played quite proficiently in probably the later 1930’s perhaps through the 1940’s.
    There are a lot more people on the Accordion Appraisal group in Facebook. And no one can really give you a really meaningful appraisal without actually seeing / playing the instrument.
    Thank you.

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  • From Ronald Long@21:1/5 to rcb...@gmail.com on Mon Mar 8 15:41:45 2021
    On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 4:19:39 PM UTC-8, rcb...@gmail.com wrote:
    Looking for a way to get an honest appraisal of this family accordion. Lansing, MI, USA here. Any suggestions?

    Instrument:
    • Accordion Type: Full Size Piano Accordion
    • Color: Ivory
    • Brand: Sonola
    • Model: Rivoli (Model # Unknown)
    • Country/Region: Italy
    • Dimensions: Case = 21.5”W x 18”D x 9.5” H
    Accordion Overall = 19.5”W x 16.25”D x 8.5”H
    Keyboard = 19.5”W x 5”D
    • Weight: Accordion & Case = 28 lbs; Accordion 20 lbs.

    Features:
    • Detailed photos available.
    • Number of Treble Keys: 41
    • Number of Bass Buttons: 120
    • Number of Treble Register Switches: 7
    • Number of Bass Register Switches: 3
    • Includes Straps: Yes
    • Includes Case: Yes

    Condition:
    • Used
    • Excellent vintage condition (including bellows).
    • One minor indentation on front left grill; otherwise, no damage just minimal age-related patina.
    • All straps are in like-new condition, no cracking or splitting.
    • Flat and fast keyboard. No sticking key.
    • Tight bellows. No leaking. No odors/smells.
    • Original hard case with felt-lined interior exhibits no signs of structural or functional damage, just cosmetic wear from normal use.

    Narrative:
    This item belonged to a family member who played quite proficiently in probably the later 1930’s perhaps through the 1940’s.


    There are a lot more people on the Accordion Appraisal group in Facebook.
    And no one can really give you a really meaningful appraisal without actually seeing / playing the instrument.

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  • From Ike Milligan@21:1/5 to Ronald Long on Wed Mar 10 09:47:48 2021
    On 3/8/2021 6:41 PM, Ronald Long wrote:
    On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 4:19:39 PM UTC-8, rcb...@gmail.com wrote:
    Looking for a way to get an honest appraisal of this family accordion. Lansing, MI, USA here. Any suggestions?

    Instrument:
    • Accordion Type: Full Size Piano Accordion
    • Color: Ivory
    • Brand: Sonola
    • Model: Rivoli (Model # Unknown)
    • Country/Region: Italy
    • Dimensions: Case = 21.5”W x 18”D x 9.5” H
    Accordion Overall = 19.5”W x 16.25”D x 8.5”H
    Keyboard = 19.5”W x 5”D
    • Weight: Accordion & Case = 28 lbs; Accordion 20 lbs.

    Features:
    • Detailed photos available.
    • Number of Treble Keys: 41
    • Number of Bass Buttons: 120
    • Number of Treble Register Switches: 7
    • Number of Bass Register Switches: 3
    • Includes Straps: Yes
    • Includes Case: Yes

    Condition:
    • Used
    • Excellent vintage condition (including bellows).
    • One minor indentation on front left grill; otherwise, no damage just minimal age-related patina.
    • All straps are in like-new condition, no cracking or splitting.
    • Flat and fast keyboard. No sticking key.
    • Tight bellows. No leaking. No odors/smells.
    • Original hard case with felt-lined interior exhibits no signs of structural or functional damage, just cosmetic wear from normal use.

    Narrative:
    This item belonged to a family member who played quite proficiently in probably the later 1930’s perhaps through the 1940’s.


    There are a lot more people on the Accordion Appraisal group in Facebook.
    And no one can really give you a really meaningful appraisal without actually seeing / playing the instrument.

    Estimates of value online can be meaningful, bearing in mind that most accordions are going to need a "reed overhaul" after at most 50 years
    and might need tuning if rust or tobacco smoke etc. got onto the reeds.
    Needing tuning is a problem because there is no easy way to do that.
    Filing the reeds causes uneven response. The best way to tune a reed is
    use sandpaper or fine abrasives while protecting the reed plate. This
    preserves the "reed profile" which is a variation in thickness, while at
    the same time polishing the reed. I don't know any self-styled
    technicians whom I would trust to work on my accordions, though I admit
    I don't know of any who might exist since I live a sequestered
    existence with my 100 or so vintage accordions, but experience, and
    looking at the damage done by idiots on accordions, makes me think these
    people are as rare in the country as the Sasquatch.
    Any issues with the accordion are going to make the sale value a mere
    fraction of what a new one of equivalent quality would be, bearing in
    mind that equivalent quality is a chimera.
    The community of people necessary to mass produce good accordions no
    longer exists.

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