• Zinc reeds on aluminium reed plate?

    From flybd5@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 4 08:02:19 2020
    Has anyone ever seen an instance of reed plates made of aluminium but the reeds themselves being made of zinc?

    I own a 1940's German accordion that seems to have this.

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  • From Ike Milligan@21:1/5 to flybd5@gmail.com on Tue May 5 07:53:59 2020
    On 5/4/2020 11:02 AM, flybd5@gmail.com wrote:
    Has anyone ever seen an instance of reed plates made of aluminium but the reeds themselves being made of zinc?

    I own a 1940's German accordion that seems to have this.

    No. it has zinc plates? R U nuts?

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  • From flybd5@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 5 07:12:20 2020
    No it has aluminum plates but the reeds are much darker metal. Are you blind?

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  • From Ike Milligan@21:1/5 to flybd5@gmail.com on Tue May 5 14:02:34 2020
    On 5/5/2020 10:12 AM, flybd5@gmail.com wrote:
    No it has aluminum plates but the reeds are much darker metal. Are you blind?

    I would much like to solve your question but this site has no pictures.
    you would need to post a link to a picture of the reeds or send a
    picture to my email address.

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  • From Ike Milligan@21:1/5 to Ike Milligan on Thu May 7 10:34:31 2020
    On 5/7/2020 10:30 AM, Ike Milligan wrote:
    On 5/5/2020 2:02 PM, Ike Milligan wrote:
    On 5/5/2020 10:12 AM, flybd5@gmail.com wrote:
    No it has aluminum plates but the reeds are much darker metal. Are
    you blind?

    I would much like to solve your question but this site has no
    pictures. you would need to post a link to a picture of the reeds or
    send a picture to my email address.

    You're clueless...

    A black hole marks the spot where your deity divided by zero.

    This idiot talks about a black hole dividing by zero as though he were
    an intelligent theiretical phycicist versed in mathematics.
    This is what happens when you hit "reply" instead of "followup"... Any
    idiot can call you clueless without witnesses.

    Ciueless about what? Reeds have to be made of a flexible metal. no one
    would make them out of zinc. They would not even vibrate. A picture was mentioned but not available. Stop wasting time.

    On 5/7/2020 8:11 AM, Juan Jiménez wrote:
    No one has ever seen it, and neither have you.
             Maybe your nomenclature is wrong. Steel can turn black if a
    chemical is
    used to remove rust. Naval jelly or other chemicals containing
    phosphoric acid Will ruin the reeds. The only way to remove rust without ruining the reeds is by hand mechanically without any abrading of the plates. Acid of any kind would ruin the reed plates. The steel reeds
    would also be totally ruined by the chemical.
             In the 1940s German reed plates were zinc to save aluminum.
    An acid
    might have removed the gray oxide from the zinc and turned it silver.
    The entire set of reeds on zinc plates is difficult or impossible to adequately restore because zinc is unstable and will oxidize over time. The white powdery oxide degrades the reed plate and even when it is removed, it seems to come back and the reed will sound bad.
             The accordion is ruined. Sorry. It was probably not salvageable in the
    beginning if it was water damaged.
             Thanks for posting. If you have something to look at post the
    picture
    elsewhere with a URL.
    WHen brains were being passed out to fetuses your zygote thought the
    Maker said "Rain" instead of "brain" anad hid under a tree.

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  • From Ike Milligan@21:1/5 to Ike Milligan on Thu May 7 10:30:35 2020
    On 5/5/2020 2:02 PM, Ike Milligan wrote:
    On 5/5/2020 10:12 AM, flybd5@gmail.com wrote:
    No it has aluminum plates but the reeds are much darker metal. Are you
    blind?

    I would much like to solve your question but this site has no pictures.
    you would need to post a link to a picture of the reeds or send a
    picture to my email address.

    You're clueless...

    A black hole marks the spot where your deity divided by zero.

    This idiot talks about a black hole dividing by zero as though he were
    an intelligent theiretical phycicist versed in mathematics.
    This is what happens when you hit "reply" instead of "followup"... Any
    idiot can call you clueless without witnesses.

    Ciueless about what? Reeds have to be made of a flexible metal. no one
    would make them out of zinc. They would not even vibrate. A picture was mentioned but not available. Stop wasting time.

    On 5/7/2020 8:11 AM, Juan Jiménez wrote:
    No one has ever seen it, and neither have you.
    Maybe your nomenclature is wrong. Steel can turn black if a
    chemical is
    used to remove rust. Naval jelly or other chemicals containing
    phosphoric acid Will ruin the reeds. The only way to remove rust without ruining the reeds is by hand mechanically without any abrading of the plates. Acid of any kind would ruin the reed plates. The steel reeds
    would also be totally ruined by the chemical.
    In the 1940s German reed plates were zinc to save aluminum.
    An acid
    might have removed the gray oxide from the zinc and turned it silver.
    The entire set of reeds on zinc plates is difficult or impossible to adequately restore because zinc is unstable and will oxidize over time.
    The white powdery oxide degrades the reed plate and even when it is
    removed, it seems to come back and the reed will sound bad.
    The accordion is ruined. Sorry. It was probably not
    salvageable in the
    beginning if it was water damaged.
    Thanks for posting. If you have something to look at post the
    picture
    elsewhere with a URL.

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