• Roland V-Accordion review

    From ciao_accordion@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 26 06:56:54 2017
    10 years since i reviewed the FR7 FR5 models
    and then helped introduce them for Roland
    during a Coupe Mondiale event here in
    Alexandria VA. (USA)

    now with the perspective of Time it is
    interesting to think on what the Roland
    impact to the world of Accordions has been.

    also interesting to note the unfortunately poor
    level of support the company gave their product,
    and their European operations in general.

    First of all, the good news is that older
    models of the V-Accordion are typically
    available at very low prices for anyone
    interested in experimenting

    this must be tempered with the reality that
    each model has it's "achillies" point, which
    can turn your Roland Accordion into a doorstop.

    FR-3 and 3x models are typically seen below $2000
    often closer to $1200-1500 .. but the weak bass strap
    mounting and plastic is difficult to repair.. in addition
    the power socket is complex (with an internal switch)
    and prone to breaking. That said, the FR3 series easily
    interfaces with MIDI gear, does not suffer from the
    falsebottom of other models aftertouch keyboard,
    uses conventional batteries, and has some truly
    excellent French Accordion voicings

    FR-7 models can be seen as low as $1500,
    and are the most reliable by far of all the full sized
    V-Accordions. They are limited in function but do not
    suffer the bellows balance calibration problems and
    other nagging little software issues of later models.

    FR-7x are often seen as low as $2500, but also suffer
    from the dreaded lines on the viewscreen which
    progressively worsen (and for which there is no cure)
    so although the model does offer a truly improved
    key-action, better matched audio output levels
    (now any wireless can be used) and the USB
    playport (for playback of MP3 accompaniments)

    replacement Viewscreen modules are NO LONGER AVAILABLE
    for the FR7x, which means ONCE YOU SCREEN becomes
    unreadable, if you have not memorized your programming
    and switching scheme, the accordion will be rendered
    unplayable (for professional use)

    the 7, 5, and 7x models all share the old BoatAnchor
    power supply... it must be noted that there is a
    critical component (the actual power supply internal
    switching board module) that occasionally fails, and
    for which NO REPLACEMENT PARTS are available.
    (nor ever will be... Roland USA had been butchering
    new stock for replacement parts to service warranties
    even before the models were discontinued)

    support for repair has worsened as well, now that
    current Roland USA management has declared a policy
    of ONLY PROVIDING REPLACEMENT PARTS through authorized
    Roland Repair centers... so outside of occasional
    availability of the FR-7/8 battery pack at the accessories
    online store, for most people and most situations any
    failure of a critical component will render these devices
    mute and useless (except as funeral urns, and other
    objects D'Art)

    personally, i owe a great debt to Iketuro Kakehashi and his
    old friend and rival Kotoh for their pioneering products
    which fueled MY Midi-mad race to escape the confines of
    my Cordovox infused Rock n Roll youth... i miss them now they
    are gone, and am saddened to see that, while Korg remains
    refreshingly true to their history and roots, Roland has pretty much
    walked away from their legacy as quickly as they could
    since taking the company private

    In conclusion, if you have always wanted to try a Roland,
    prices will likely continue to drop, so even if you only
    get 5 years or so before it dies it is not that much money
    to throw away on a lark (compared to original prices)

    final note, i would steer clear of the 8 series models
    with the ridiculous and problematic stepper motor
    controlled bellows... my information is that fully
    1/3 of the model run has been butchered for parts
    to service the incredible failure rate

    European markets have some additional resources with the old
    Gwerder (fr-3 in disguise) and now the EVO Bugari
    involvement, as well as far more independent and robust
    Repair and Servicing support available in England

    Ciao

    Ventura

    (i currently enjoy a white FR-3 and white FR-7x as well
    as my Excelsior Midivox units and the old Cordovox
    with midi adapter in my electronic accordion arsenal)

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  • From Bob van der Poel@21:1/5 to Ventura on Sun Oct 29 19:31:29 2017
    On Tuesday, June 5, 2007 at 8:24:32 PM UTC-7, Ventura wrote:
    Roland's Virtual Accordions part 1 of 9

    Recently, I enjoyed an evening with the Roland Virtual Accordion,
    and thought I’d share my impressions with you. This is not a full
    review, as I did not have the instrument in my shop for a teardown
    or close physical exam.

    This article represents my personal views only.

    There are basically two models, from which all variants are derived.
    The two platforms share several things in common, significantly in
    the Bass and Chord modes. In the Tradition of the Roland Virtual
    Harpsichord, they have studied and included a whole raft of variants
    so that Students and fanatics alike can have the chance to access
    6 different stradella Key patterns as well as 5 freebass modes.

    This alone is kinda awesome, and i feel in the Spirit of how Roland
    and Mr. Kakehashi have always done things. The average student
    would never be able to afford all those different varieties... only a
    select few have that kind of opportunity in a lifetime. But in the
    VR accordion, you can explore essentially a roomful of
    free reed instruments.

    There was not time to map into the details, so i'm not sure if the
    individual tuning of notes feature extend to the bass as well,
    but if i could run 3 rows of Bass with one counter an octave off
    the prime, and let's see... i'll take major minor and diminished for
    the chords... You all know the first song i'm gonna do is
    "Purple Haze"

    copyright VHM Co. MMVII all rights reserved contact accordion@att.net

    This very interesting. I'm in the "sure would like to try one, but don't want to spend thousands just to see" camp. For now I'll stick with my "real" piano accordion made 40+ years ago. At least I can fix that one!

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  • From Ike Milligan@21:1/5 to Bob van der Poel on Thu Nov 2 11:15:38 2017
    On 10/29/2017 10:31 PM, Bob van der Poel wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 5, 2007 at 8:24:32 PM UTC-7, Ventura wrote:
    Roland's Virtual Accordions part 1 of 9

    Recently, I enjoyed an evening with the Roland Virtual Accordion,
    and thought I’d share my impressions with you. This is not a full
    review, as I did not have the instrument in my shop for a teardown
    or close physical exam.

    This article represents my personal views only.

    There are basically two models, from which all variants are derived.
    The two platforms share several things in common, significantly in
    the Bass and Chord modes. In the Tradition of the Roland Virtual
    Harpsichord, they have studied and included a whole raft of variants
    so that Students and fanatics alike can have the chance to access
    6 different stradella Key patterns as well as 5 freebass modes.

    This alone is kinda awesome, and i feel in the Spirit of how Roland
    and Mr. Kakehashi have always done things. The average student
    would never be able to afford all those different varieties... only a
    select few have that kind of opportunity in a lifetime. But in the
    VR accordion, you can explore essentially a roomful of
    free reed instruments.

    There was not time to map into the details, so i'm not sure if the
    individual tuning of notes feature extend to the bass as well,
    but if i could run 3 rows of Bass with one counter an octave off
    the prime, and let's see... i'll take major minor and diminished for
    the chords... You all know the first song i'm gonna do is
    "Purple Haze"

    copyright VHM Co. MMVII all rights reserved contact accordion@att.net

    This very interesting. I'm in the "sure would like to try one, but don't want to spend thousands just to see" camp. For now I'll stick with my "real" piano accordion made 40+ years ago. At least I can fix that one!

    The Roland is not a "free reed" instrument, it is an electronic keyboard instrument. If an accordion is a free reed instrument, the Roland is not
    an accordion.

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