• How many?

    From Richard Jernigan@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 26 19:55:46 2021
    What? This group still exists? Hello, and best wishes to all from

    RNJ

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  • From Steven Bornfeld@21:1/5 to Richard Jernigan on Sun Mar 28 12:41:28 2021
    On 3/26/2021 10:55 PM, Richard Jernigan wrote:
    What? This group still exists? Hello, and best wishes to all from

    RNJ

    "Not dead; just resting!"
    Best to you, Richard!

    Steve

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  • From Andrew Schulman@21:1/5 to Steven Bornfeld on Sun Mar 28 19:11:16 2021
    On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 12:41:31 PM UTC-4, Steven Bornfeld wrote:
    On 3/26/2021 10:55 PM, Richard Jernigan wrote:
    What? This group still exists? Hello, and best wishes to all from

    RNJ

    "Not dead; just resting!"
    Best to you, Richard!

    Steve
    OMG, this is so exciting! At fever pitch now. Good ol' RMCG is rock and rolling once again!

    Thank you, Steve and Richard!
    Andrew

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  • From Paul Carmichael@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 8 14:27:15 2021
    El Mon, 11 Jan 2021 21:39:45 -0800, John Nguyen escribió:

    My first post in RMCG was back in Aug 14, 2001. That's 19 years ago.
    Time really flies!!!

    Mine was in 2021.

    --
    Paul.

    https://paulc.es/elpatio

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  • From JPD@21:1/5 to and...@abacaproductions.com on Wed Apr 14 13:32:28 2021
    On Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 7:18:17 PM UTC-8, and...@abacaproductions.com wrote:
    How many people who posted in the heyday of RMCG which was approximately in 2005 are still tuning in? Five? Twelve? Three?

    Thank you!
    Andrew

    I doubt the RMCG drop-off is due to any fading of interest in CG, but rather to the advent of online video.

    My first RMCG post was in 1994, btw. What do I win?

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to JPD on Wed Apr 14 13:56:22 2021
    On 4/14/2021 1:32 PM, JPD wrote:
    On Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 7:18:17 PM UTC-8, and...@abacaproductions.com wrote:
    How many people who posted in the heyday of RMCG which was approximately in 2005 are still tuning in? Five? Twelve? Three?

    Thank you!
    Andrew

    I doubt the RMCG drop-off is due to any fading of interest in CG, but rather to the advent of online video.


    There's a dropoff in almost all newsgroups. Many newsgroups get almost
    no new messages any more. It's not because of online video; it's because
    of a lack of interest in usenet in general.The great majority of
    internet users these days don't even know that usenet exists.


    --
    Ken

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  • From Gerry@21:1/5 to JPD on Wed Apr 14 19:49:55 2021
    On 2021-04-14 20:32:28 +0000, JPD said:

    On Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 7:18:17 PM UTC-8,
    and...@abacaproductions.com wrote:
    How many people who posted in the heyday of RMCG which was
    approximately in 2005 are still tuning in? Five? Twelve? Three?

    Thank you!
    Andrew

    I doubt the RMCG drop-off is due to any fading of interest in CG, but
    rather to the advent of online video.

    And possibly the aging of the user base.

    My first RMCG post was in 1994, btw. What do I win?

    I read it but likely didn't post until the late-90's.

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  • From Gerry@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Wed Apr 14 19:51:29 2021
    On 2021-04-14 20:56:22 +0000, Ken Blake said:

    On 4/14/2021 1:32 PM, JPD wrote:
    On Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 7:18:17 PM UTC-8,
    and...@abacaproductions.com wrote:
    How many people who posted in the heyday of RMCG which was
    approximately in 2005 are still tuning in? Five? Twelve? Three?
    Thank you! Andrew

    I doubt the RMCG drop-off is due to any fading of interest in CG, but
    rather to the advent of online video.


    There's a dropoff in almost all newsgroups. Many newsgroups get almost
    no new messages any more. It's not because of online video; it's
    because of a lack of interest in usenet in general.The great majority
    of internet users these days don't even know that usenet exists.

    I felt that I was one of the last in rmmgj. Almost all movecd to
    Facebook, but don't seem to have a presence there. There are lots of
    jazz guitar groups, but it has diffused decent discussion.

    Are there any classical groups of value on Facebook?

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  • From Steven Bornfeld@21:1/5 to Gerry on Thu Apr 15 14:49:55 2021
    On 4/14/2021 10:51 PM, Gerry wrote:
    On 2021-04-14 20:56:22 +0000, Ken Blake said:

    On 4/14/2021 1:32 PM, JPD wrote:
    On Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 7:18:17 PM UTC-8,
    and...@abacaproductions.com wrote:
    How many people who posted in the heyday of RMCG which was
    approximately in 2005 are still tuning in? Five? Twelve? Three?
    Thank you! Andrew

    I doubt the RMCG drop-off is due to any fading of interest in CG, but
    rather to the advent of online video.


    There's a dropoff in almost all newsgroups. Many newsgroups get almost
    no new messages any more. It's not because of online video; it's
    because of a lack of interest in usenet in general.The great majority
    of internet users these days don't even know that usenet exists.

    I felt that I was one of the last in rmmgj. Almost all movecd to
    Facebook, but don't seem to have a presence there. There are lots of
    jazz guitar groups, but it has diffused decent discussion.

    Are there any classical groups of value on Facebook?



    rec.music.classical.recordings is still fairly active on usenet. There
    is a group of some of the same people who have migrated over to FB. The
    usenet group still has its share of trolls, but the entertainment value
    has diminished, and the off-topic political posts have become tiresome.
    OTOH, the collections of music these guys (almost 100% male, BTW) have
    is quite astounding. I can't imagine they can listen to it all and
    still have time to post (or eat, or sleep).

    Steve

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  • From Gerry@21:1/5 to Steven Bornfeld on Thu Apr 15 22:52:21 2021
    On 2021-04-15 18:49:55 +0000, Steven Bornfeld said:

    On 4/14/2021 10:51 PM, Gerry wrote:
    On 2021-04-14 20:56:22 +0000, Ken Blake said:

    On 4/14/2021 1:32 PM, JPD wrote:
    On Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 7:18:17 PM UTC-8,
    and...@abacaproductions.com wrote:
    How many people who posted in the heyday of RMCG which was
    approximately in 2005 are still tuning in? Five? Twelve? Three?
    Thank you! Andrew

    I doubt the RMCG drop-off is due to any fading of interest in CG, but
    rather to the advent of online video.


    There's a dropoff in almost all newsgroups. Many newsgroups get almost
    no new messages any more. It's not because of online video; it's
    because of a lack of interest in usenet in general.The great majority
    of internet users these days don't even know that usenet exists.

    I felt that I was one of the last in rmmgj. Almost all movecd to
    Facebook, but don't seem to have a presence there. There are lots of
    jazz guitar groups, but it has diffused decent discussion.

    Are there any classical groups of value on Facebook?



    rec.music.classical.recordings is still fairly active on usenet. There
    is a group of some of the same people who have migrated over to FB.
    The usenet group still has its share of trolls, but the entertainment
    value has diminished, and the off-topic political posts have become
    tiresome. OTOH, the collections of music these guys (almost 100%
    male, BTW) have is quite astounding. I can't imagine they can listen
    to it all and still have time to post (or eat, or sleep).

    Steve

    But no classical guitar group of value?

    So what are the Facebook groups named where the .recordings crew has gone to?

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  • From Steven Bornfeld@21:1/5 to Gerry on Fri Apr 16 11:22:37 2021
    On 4/16/2021 1:52 AM, Gerry wrote:
    On 2021-04-15 18:49:55 +0000, Steven Bornfeld said:

    On 4/14/2021 10:51 PM, Gerry wrote:
    On 2021-04-14 20:56:22 +0000, Ken Blake said:

    On 4/14/2021 1:32 PM, JPD wrote:
    On Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 7:18:17 PM UTC-8,
    and...@abacaproductions.com wrote:
    How many people who posted in the heyday of RMCG which was
    approximately in 2005 are still tuning in? Five? Twelve? Three?
    Thank you! Andrew

    I doubt the RMCG drop-off is due to any fading of interest in CG,
    but rather to the advent of online video.


    There's a dropoff in almost all newsgroups. Many newsgroups get
    almost no new messages any more. It's not because of online video;
    it's because of a lack of interest in usenet in general.The great
    majority of internet users these days don't even know that usenet
    exists.

    I felt that I was one of the last in rmmgj. Almost all movecd to
    Facebook, but don't seem to have a presence there. There are lots of
    jazz guitar groups, but it has diffused decent discussion.

    Are there any classical groups of value on Facebook?



    rec.music.classical.recordings is still fairly active on usenet.
    There is a group of some of the same people who have migrated over to
    FB. The usenet group still has its share of trolls, but the
    entertainment value has diminished, and the off-topic political posts
    have become tiresome.   OTOH, the collections of music these guys
    (almost 100% male, BTW) have is quite astounding.  I can't imagine
    they can listen to it all and still have time to post (or eat, or sleep).

    Steve

    But no classical guitar group of value?

    So what are the Facebook groups named where the .recordings crew has
    gone to?


    I messaged you on FB

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  • From Paul Carmichael@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 16 16:28:08 2021
    El Fri, 16 Apr 2021 11:22:37 -0400, Steven Bornfeld escribió:

    On 4/16/2021 1:52 AM, Gerry wrote:

    So what are the Facebook groups named where the .recordings crew has
    gone to?


    I messaged you on FB


    Is it a secret?


    --
    Paul.

    https://paulc.es/elpatio

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  • From Steven Bornfeld@21:1/5 to Paul Carmichael on Fri Apr 16 15:23:30 2021
    On 4/16/2021 12:28 PM, Paul Carmichael wrote:
    El Fri, 16 Apr 2021 11:22:37 -0400, Steven Bornfeld escribió:

    On 4/16/2021 1:52 AM, Gerry wrote:

    So what are the Facebook groups named where the .recordings crew has
    gone to?


    I messaged you on FB


    Is it a secret?


    No. But I doubt I have to tell you about Delcamp.

    S

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  • From Paul Carmichael@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 17 14:00:48 2021
    El Fri, 16 Apr 2021 15:23:30 -0400, Steven Bornfeld escribió:

    On 4/16/2021 12:28 PM, Paul Carmichael wrote:
    El Fri, 16 Apr 2021 11:22:37 -0400, Steven Bornfeld escribió:

    On 4/16/2021 1:52 AM, Gerry wrote:

    So what are the Facebook groups named where the .recordings crew has
    gone to?


    I messaged you on FB


    Is it a secret?


    No. But I doubt I have to tell you about Delcamp.

    S

    ?



    --
    Paul.

    https://paulc.es/elpatio

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  • From Steven Bornfeld@21:1/5 to Paul Carmichael on Sat Apr 17 14:58:24 2021
    On 4/17/2021 10:00 AM, Paul Carmichael wrote:
    El Fri, 16 Apr 2021 15:23:30 -0400, Steven Bornfeld escribió:

    On 4/16/2021 12:28 PM, Paul Carmichael wrote:
    El Fri, 16 Apr 2021 11:22:37 -0400, Steven Bornfeld escribió:

    On 4/16/2021 1:52 AM, Gerry wrote:

    So what are the Facebook groups named where the .recordings crew has >>>>> gone to?


    I messaged you on FB


    Is it a secret?


    No. But I doubt I have to tell you about Delcamp.

    S

    ?





    Sorry. The Delcamp forum has been around a long time. The moderator is sometimes painted as a petty tyrant; I haven't spent enough time around
    there to know. It is popular, and seems to have a great deal of
    information.

    https://www.classicalguitardelcamp.com/

    The old "Eskimo" list (and I don't know where that name is from--maybe
    they run the forums) went to yahoo and now is basically dead. There are
    a couple of classical guitar groups on Facebook; those I've seen don't
    see a lot of traffic.

    Steve

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  • From Steven Bornfeld@21:1/5 to Steven Bornfeld on Sat Apr 17 15:00:11 2021
    On 4/17/2021 2:58 PM, Steven Bornfeld wrote:
    On 4/17/2021 10:00 AM, Paul Carmichael wrote:
    El Fri, 16 Apr 2021 15:23:30 -0400, Steven Bornfeld escribió:

    On 4/16/2021 12:28 PM, Paul Carmichael wrote:
    El Fri, 16 Apr 2021 11:22:37 -0400, Steven Bornfeld escribió:

    On 4/16/2021 1:52 AM, Gerry wrote:

    So what are the Facebook groups named where the .recordings crew has >>>>>> gone to?


    I messaged you on FB


    Is it a secret?


    No.  But I doubt I have to tell you about Delcamp.

    S

    ?





    Sorry.  The Delcamp forum has been around a long time.  The moderator is sometimes painted as a petty tyrant; I haven't spent enough time around
    there to know.  It is popular, and seems to have a great deal of information.

    https://www.classicalguitardelcamp.com/

    The old "Eskimo" list (and I don't know where that name is from--maybe
    they run the forums) went to yahoo and now is basically dead.  There are
    a couple of classical guitar groups on Facebook; those I've seen don't
    see a lot of traffic.

    Steve


    I'm obviously going senile; yes, the "Eskimo" list today exists (a
    remnant) on Facebook here:

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/2449041278647229

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  • From Steven Bornfeld@21:1/5 to John on Sun Apr 18 13:59:41 2021
    On 4/18/2021 1:54 PM, John wrote:
    On Saturday, April 17, 2021 at 12:00:13 PM UTC-7, Steven Bornfeld wrote:

    Sorry. The Delcamp forum has been around a long time. The moderator is
    sometimes painted as a petty tyrant; I haven't spent enough time around
    there to know. It is popular, and seems to have a great deal of
    information.

    https://www.classicalguitardelcamp.com/

    Mr. Delcamp is strict about members' requirement to post something like at least two messages a month and even more strict about copyright issues. I posted my arrangement of a Puccini aria and a moderator took it down, since even though the music is
    clearly in the public domain, someone else had written lyrics (not the opera's originals) for it, and those were still under copyright. My arrangement included no lyrics at all.

    Delcamp has also arranged and posted a large number of scores, including extensive offerings of Bach, Tarrega and Llobet, free to members who have posted a required number of messages.

    You're right that the forum has a great deal of information, but much of the discussion is helpful especially to beginners. Of the many Facebook CG groups, this one: https://www.facebook.com/groups/203609713179964, has 16,000 members and a fair amount
    of traffic, but again most helpful to beginners. That's why I prize these usenet groups, what's left of them, since the participants tend to have been members longer and are sometimes older, and so offer more seasoned points of view.



    I haven't often seen "usenet" and "seasoned" in the same sentence. Hope
    you and yours are well.

    Steve

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  • From John@21:1/5 to Steven Bornfeld on Sun Apr 18 10:54:35 2021
    On Saturday, April 17, 2021 at 12:00:13 PM UTC-7, Steven Bornfeld wrote:

    Sorry. The Delcamp forum has been around a long time. The moderator is sometimes painted as a petty tyrant; I haven't spent enough time around there to know. It is popular, and seems to have a great deal of
    information.

    https://www.classicalguitardelcamp.com/

    Mr. Delcamp is strict about members' requirement to post something like at least two messages a month and even more strict about copyright issues. I posted my arrangement of a Puccini aria and a moderator took it down, since even though the music is
    clearly in the public domain, someone else had written lyrics (not the opera's originals) for it, and those were still under copyright. My arrangement included no lyrics at all.

    Delcamp has also arranged and posted a large number of scores, including extensive offerings of Bach, Tarrega and Llobet, free to members who have posted a required number of messages.

    You're right that the forum has a great deal of information, but much of the discussion is helpful especially to beginners. Of the many Facebook CG groups, this one: https://www.facebook.com/groups/203609713179964, has 16,000 members and a fair amount of
    traffic, but again most helpful to beginners. That's why I prize these usenet groups, what's left of them, since the participants tend to have been members longer and are sometimes older, and so offer more seasoned points of view.

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  • From Gerry@21:1/5 to John on Sun Apr 18 15:16:50 2021
    On 2021-04-18 17:54:35 +0000, John said:

    Of the many Facebook CG groups, this one: https://www.facebook.com/groups/203609713179964, has 16,000 members and
    a fair amount of traffic, but again most helpful to beginners.

    Thanks for that.

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  • From John@21:1/5 to Gerry on Mon Apr 19 10:49:30 2021
    On Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 3:16:53 PM UTC-7, Gerry wrote:

    Thanks for that.

    You bet, Gerry. Here's one with more members but maybe not as much traffic: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1028451850503937. Most of the others there are either much smaller or localized.

    John R.

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  • From Gerry@21:1/5 to John on Mon Apr 19 21:05:01 2021
    On 2021-04-19 17:49:30 +0000, John said:

    On Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 3:16:53 PM UTC-7, Gerry wrote:

    Thanks for that.

    You bet, Gerry. Here's one with more members but maybe not as much
    traffic: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1028451850503937. Most of the
    others there are either much smaller or localized.

    Thanks. ~25.8k is small, but it may keep me occupied for an hour or two. ;-)

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  • From norton.robert02@gmail.com@21:1/5 to and...@abacaproductions.com on Fri Jun 11 00:52:17 2021
    On Monday, 2 November 2020 at 03:18:17 UTC, and...@abacaproductions.com wrote:
    How many people who posted in the heyday of RMCG which was approximately in 2005 are still tuning in? Five? Twelve? Three?

    Thank you!
    Andrew

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  • From Gerry@21:1/5 to norton....@gmail.com on Sun Jun 13 09:04:38 2021
    On 2021-06-11 07:52:17 +0000, norton....@gmail.com said:

    On Monday, 2 November 2020 at 03:18:17 UTC, and...@abacaproductions.com wrote:
    How many people who posted in the heyday of RMCG which was
    approximately in 2005 are still tuning in? Five? Twelve? Three?

    Thank you!
    Andrew

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