On Wednesday, 7 September 2016 06:05:57 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:which person was quoted) that were said to be "very dark", may someday also surface?
Now that, after David Bowie's death this year, the previously unreleased 1974 album of his, The Gouster, is suddenly being released this month, I wonder if the similarly hidden 1977 songs Dylan played for a guitarist (Bloomfield or Bromberg, I forget
dark, dark songs,” Soles told Howard Sounes. “None of them saw the light of day. They got discarded because I think they were too strong. They were the continuation of the Bob and Sara tale, on the angry side of that conflict.” One of theseAnd just what is really known about these songs? Anything besides just the slightest descriptions?http://www.uncut.co.uk/features/shelter-from-the-storm-the-inside-story-of-bob-dylan-s-blood-on-the-tracks-15656
"In 1977, while visiting Rolling Thunder tour-mates Steven Soles and T-Bone Burnett, he played a set of songs too frightening to ever be heard again: like Blood On The Tracks 2, with the love torn out. “They were all very, very, very tough, dark,
On Thursday, 8 September 2016 09:12:57 UTC-4, Willie wrote:forget which person was quoted) that were said to be "very dark", may someday also surface?
On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 5:25:37 PM UTC-4, khematite wrote:
On Wednesday, 7 September 2016 06:05:57 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
Now that, after David Bowie's death this year, the previously unreleased 1974 album of his, The Gouster, is suddenly being released this month, I wonder if the similarly hidden 1977 songs Dylan played for a guitarist (Bloomfield or Bromberg, I
And just what is really known about these songs? Anything besides just the slightest descriptions?
dark, dark songs,” Soles told Howard Sounes. “None of them saw the light of day. They got discarded because I think they were too strong. They were the continuation of the Bob and Sara tale, on the angry side of that conflict.” One of thesehttp://www.uncut.co.uk/features/shelter-from-the-storm-the-inside-story-of-bob-dylan-s-blood-on-the-tracks-15656
"In 1977, while visiting Rolling Thunder tour-mates Steven Soles and T-Bone Burnett, he played a set of songs too frightening to ever be heard again: like Blood On The Tracks 2, with the love torn out. “They were all very, very, very tough, dark,
One by-product of this Uncut article is it links to a recent photo of Joni Mitchell, who seems to be out and about some now:
http://jonimitchell.com/news/newsitem.cfm?id=899
I guess these unrecorded songs will join the list of unsolved mysteries. Like video footage of Elmore James, Robert Johnson's death, SNL Pat's gender. There probably is a site for the Dylan hidden treasures.One list at:
http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1157-beyond-the-bootlegs-bob-dylans-unreleased-holy-grails/
I'm sure there's lots more, including of course Dylan's bar mitzvah performance--probably done in his sweet voice. Come to think of it, you also never see the fountain pens he received that day offered up on eBay.
On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 4:07:40 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:In other words, a state, or, in my case, it seems a world, of Utter Dylerium...Everywhere I go I see or hear a quote from one of his songs...
Do you have examples of those you suspect?- number of Dylan items in one's possession
- amount of money and time spent on Dylan
- using the phrase "true Dylan fan" (or equivalent like "true Jew") to distinguish the enlightened from the rest
- obsession with Dylan's personal life
- Dylan shrines or pictorial displays around the house
- notion that Dylan is the messiah and/or Jesus
- notion that Dylan is a prophet sent by God
- notion that Dylan stands alone among the history of the world's artists
- religious and moral rationalizations for idolatry
On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 2:58:14 PM UTC-5, M. Rick wrote:How could I forget Prince?
On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 4:07:40 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:In other words, a state, or, in my case, it seems a world, of Utter Dylerium...Everywhere I go I see or hear a quote from one of his songs...
Do you have examples of those you suspect?- number of Dylan items in one's possession
- amount of money and time spent on Dylan
- using the phrase "true Dylan fan" (or equivalent like "true Jew") to distinguish the enlightened from the rest
- obsession with Dylan's personal life
- Dylan shrines or pictorial displays around the house
- notion that Dylan is the messiah and/or Jesus
- notion that Dylan is a prophet sent by God
- notion that Dylan stands alone among the history of the world's artists
- religious and moral rationalizations for idolatry
The only possible remedy is to (only temporarily, of course) completely withdraw from all things Dylan and focus on music of others, until sanity gradually reappears...
I suggest:
Mozart
Metallica
Nirvana
AC/DC
Bruce Springsteen
Mahler
The Beatles
Songs of faith (we have KTIS in the Twin Cities)
Early blues, such as Robert Johnson
Elvis Presley
Donovan (my late husband played and recorded with him <sigh>...
"Will Dockery" <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:3ae632ae-66df-47dc...@googlegroups.com...Funny. But we all know what happened to Socrates...
On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 9:24:41 PM UTC-4, M. Rick wrote:
On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 11:29:27 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote: >> >True, M.R. seems to be one of the biggest fools we'v e seen come down
the pike in a long while.
It's probably foolish to keep posting here for my own benefit
Well, if it somehow does you good, I reckon you should keep going... a little heckling never killed anyone.
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That's the thing, Will; I see M. Rick (and suspect he sees himself) as more of a gadfly than a troll.
DianeE
I would like to hear these lost songs.So would I...
On Wednesday, 7 September 2016 06:05:57 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:which person was quoted) that were said to be "very dark", may someday also surface?
Now that, after David Bowie's death this year, the previously unreleased 1974 album of his, The Gouster, is suddenly being released this month, I wonder if the similarly hidden 1977 songs Dylan played for a guitarist (Bloomfield or Bromberg, I forget
dark, dark songs,” Soles told Howard Sounes. “None of them saw the light of day. They got discarded because I think they were too strong. They were the continuation of the Bob and Sara tale, on the angry side of that conflict.” One of theseAnd just what is really known about these songs? Anything besides just the slightest descriptions?http://www.uncut.co.uk/features/shelter-from-the-storm-the-inside-story-of-bob-dylan-s-blood-on-the-tracks-15656
"In 1977, while visiting Rolling Thunder tour-mates Steven Soles and T-Bone Burnett, he played a set of songs too frightening to ever be heard again: like Blood On The Tracks 2, with the love torn out. “They were all very, very, very tough, dark,
On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 5:25:37 PM UTC-4, khematite wrote:forget which person was quoted) that were said to be "very dark", may someday also surface?
On Wednesday, 7 September 2016 06:05:57 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
Now that, after David Bowie's death this year, the previously unreleased 1974 album of his, The Gouster, is suddenly being released this month, I wonder if the similarly hidden 1977 songs Dylan played for a guitarist (Bloomfield or Bromberg, I
dark, dark songs,” Soles told Howard Sounes. “None of them saw the light of day. They got discarded because I think they were too strong. They were the continuation of the Bob and Sara tale, on the angry side of that conflict.” One of theseAnd just what is really known about these songs? Anything besides just the slightest descriptions?http://www.uncut.co.uk/features/shelter-from-the-storm-the-inside-story-of-bob-dylan-s-blood-on-the-tracks-15656
"In 1977, while visiting Rolling Thunder tour-mates Steven Soles and T-Bone Burnett, he played a set of songs too frightening to ever be heard again: like Blood On The Tracks 2, with the love torn out. “They were all very, very, very tough, dark,
Strange... these sound like some important songs....I'd forgotten this thread. K's link to the Dylan Holy Grails led to this video, which shows an eerie (I thought) melodic similarity between Neil Young's "Helpless" and "Knockin' on Heaven's Door," which I'd never noticed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 4:23:26 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:forget which person was quoted) that were said to be "very dark", may someday also surface?
On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 5:25:37 PM UTC-4, khematite wrote:
On Wednesday, 7 September 2016 06:05:57 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
Now that, after David Bowie's death this year, the previously unreleased 1974 album of his, The Gouster, is suddenly being released this month, I wonder if the similarly hidden 1977 songs Dylan played for a guitarist (Bloomfield or Bromberg, I
dark, dark songs,” Soles told Howard Sounes. “None of them saw the light of day. They got discarded because I think they were too strong. They were the continuation of the Bob and Sara tale, on the angry side of that conflict.” One of theseAnd just what is really known about these songs? Anything besides just the slightest descriptions?http://www.uncut.co.uk/features/shelter-from-the-storm-the-inside-story-of-bob-dylan-s-blood-on-the-tracks-15656
"In 1977, while visiting Rolling Thunder tour-mates Steven Soles and T-Bone Burnett, he played a set of songs too frightening to ever be heard again: like Blood On The Tracks 2, with the love torn out. “They were all very, very, very tough, dark,
v=2sDGTZRdQdw&t=102sStrange... these sound like some important songs....I'd forgotten this thread. K's link to the Dylan Holy Grails led to this video, which shows an eerie (I thought) melodic similarity between Neil Young's "Helpless" and "Knockin' on Heaven's Door," which I'd never noticed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?
On Wednesday, 7 September 2016 06:05:57 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:which person was quoted) that were said to be "very dark", may someday also surface?
Now that, after David Bowie's death this year, the previously unreleased 1974 album of his, The Gouster, is suddenly being released this month, I wonder if the similarly hidden 1977 songs Dylan played for a guitarist (Bloomfield or Bromberg, I forget
dark, dark songs,” Soles told Howard Sounes. “None of them saw the light of day. They got discarded because I think they were too strong. They were the continuation of the Bob and Sara tale, on the angry side of that conflict.” One of theseAnd just what is really known about these songs? Anything besides just the slightest descriptions?http://www.uncut.co.uk/features/shelter-from-the-storm-the-inside-story-of-bob-dylan-s-blood-on-the-tracks-15656
"In 1977, while visiting Rolling Thunder tour-mates Steven Soles and T-Bone Burnett, he played a set of songs too frightening to ever be heard again: like Blood On The Tracks 2, with the love torn out. “They were all very, very, very tough, dark,
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