• happy birfday keef! THB for keef goober (if he's still with us?)

    From Rachel@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 7 00:10:46 2021
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.



    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Willie@21:1/5 to Rachel on Wed Sep 8 10:48:15 2021
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.



    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been
    Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Rachel on Wed Sep 8 12:22:27 2021
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been
    Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.

    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Willie on Wed Sep 8 12:20:50 2021
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been
    Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.

    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Willie@21:1/5 to Rachel on Wed Sep 8 13:03:56 2021
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been
    Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.

    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Willie on Wed Sep 8 13:16:20 2021
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:03:58 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been
    Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.
    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).

    you can dig up the progression of the poem from aapc, if you're interested, my "workshop" as george dance so generously and aptly called it to suit the purposes for which i apparently employ it.

    just because a dylan fan speaks of bolts, doesn't necessarily mean he is thinking of chimes of freedom.

    in fact, i was mixing and matching the primordial soup of the cosmos, the notorious collegiate primal scream, akin to the big bang, and a mixing of the epic thunderbolts of zeus and hammer of thor,, of which we learned when we were all little children,
    nachon? or i guess i picked up thor living in scandinavia when i was a child, as well, following in the footsteps of the eminent just walkin', who did the same thing recently, in a poem he posted for hitler's birthday, and i had never considered that
    unique approach before, mixing and matching of the mythical gods of different cultures, and liked it very much.

    so there. :-P

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Rachel on Thu Sep 9 05:45:34 2021
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:16:21 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:03:58 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been
    Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.
    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).
    you can dig up the progression of the poem from aapc, if you're interested, my "workshop" as george dance so generously and aptly called it to suit the purposes for which i apparently employ it.

    just because a dylan fan speaks of bolts, doesn't necessarily mean he is thinking of chimes of freedom.

    in fact, i was mixing and matching the primordial soup of the cosmos, the notorious collegiate primal scream, akin to the big bang, and a mixing of the epic thunderbolts of zeus and hammer of thor,, of which we learned when we were all little children,
    nachon? or i guess i picked up thor living in scandinavia when i was a child, as well, following in the footsteps of the eminent just walkin', who did the same thing recently, in a poem he posted for hitler's birthday, and i had never considered that
    unique approach before, mixing and matching of the mythical gods of different cultures, and liked it very much.

    so there. :-P

    as to the power of hammerings, i was also influenced by both the real life events, and by my ideas/theories as to the evolution of language, of which are too vague to even speak at this point, but was sort of thinking of monkeys pounding on rocks to make
    tools, such as stone instrument and the first knives, believing there to be a connection.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Rachel on Thu Sep 9 15:14:35 2021
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:12:44 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 5:45:35 AM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:16:21 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:03:58 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been
    Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.
    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).
    you can dig up the progression of the poem from aapc, if you're interested, my "workshop" as george dance so generously and aptly called it to suit the purposes for which i apparently employ it.

    just because a dylan fan speaks of bolts, doesn't necessarily mean he is thinking of chimes of freedom.

    in fact, i was mixing and matching the primordial soup of the cosmos, the notorious collegiate primal scream, akin to the big bang, and a mixing of the epic thunderbolts of zeus and hammer of thor,, of which we learned when we were all little
    children, nachon? or i guess i picked up thor living in scandinavia when i was a child, as well, following in the footsteps of the eminent just walkin', who did the same thing recently, in a poem he posted for hitler's birthday, and i had never
    considered that unique approach before, mixing and matching of the mythical gods of different cultures, and liked it very much.

    so there. :-P
    as to the power of hammerings, i was also influenced by both the real life events, and by my ideas/theories as to the evolution of language, of which are too vague to even speak at this point, but was sort of thinking of monkeys pounding on rocks to
    make tools, such as stone instrument and the first knives, believing there to be a connection.
    willie kindly pointed out to me that the common expression is lying in wait...however i was employing a metaphor, and didn't feel it proper to fully anthropomorphize it, when likening the subject to a pinball machine.

    i meant the present participle of lay, set in position for use...and in wait, waiting, a hint at a nefarious affair...

    i found this in my favorite dictionary (however i've been noticing some typos in it recently :-///)

    Lay wait: to lie in wait, or in ambush

    with a few handfuls of examples from literature cited, this one being the most apt:

    - Here the cunning animal lay in wait.
    "International Weekly Miscellany, Vol. 1, No. 5, July 29, 1850" by Various

    here, here's another example of the phrase i quickly googled. i like this dictionary, too, btw:

    https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/lay+wait+for

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  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Rachel on Thu Sep 9 15:12:42 2021
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 5:45:35 AM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:16:21 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:03:58 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been
    Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.
    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).
    you can dig up the progression of the poem from aapc, if you're interested, my "workshop" as george dance so generously and aptly called it to suit the purposes for which i apparently employ it.

    just because a dylan fan speaks of bolts, doesn't necessarily mean he is thinking of chimes of freedom.

    in fact, i was mixing and matching the primordial soup of the cosmos, the notorious collegiate primal scream, akin to the big bang, and a mixing of the epic thunderbolts of zeus and hammer of thor,, of which we learned when we were all little
    children, nachon? or i guess i picked up thor living in scandinavia when i was a child, as well, following in the footsteps of the eminent just walkin', who did the same thing recently, in a poem he posted for hitler's birthday, and i had never
    considered that unique approach before, mixing and matching of the mythical gods of different cultures, and liked it very much.

    so there. :-P
    as to the power of hammerings, i was also influenced by both the real life events, and by my ideas/theories as to the evolution of language, of which are too vague to even speak at this point, but was sort of thinking of monkeys pounding on rocks to
    make tools, such as stone instrument and the first knives, believing there to be a connection.

    willie kindly pointed out to me that the common expression is lying in wait...however i was employing a metaphor, and didn't feel it proper to fully anthropomorphize it, when likening the subject to a pinball machine.

    i meant the present participle of lay, set in position for use...and in wait, waiting, a hint at a nefarious affair...

    i found this in my favorite dictionary (however i've been noticing some typos in it recently :-///)

    Lay wait: to lie in wait, or in ambush

    with a few handfuls of examples from literature cited, this one being the most apt:

    - Here the cunning animal lay in wait.
    "International Weekly Miscellany, Vol. 1, No. 5, July 29, 1850" by Various

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  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Rachel on Thu Sep 9 15:50:56 2021
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:14:37 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:12:44 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 5:45:35 AM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:16:21 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:03:58 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been
    Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.
    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).
    you can dig up the progression of the poem from aapc, if you're interested, my "workshop" as george dance so generously and aptly called it to suit the purposes for which i apparently employ it.

    just because a dylan fan speaks of bolts, doesn't necessarily mean he is thinking of chimes of freedom.

    in fact, i was mixing and matching the primordial soup of the cosmos, the notorious collegiate primal scream, akin to the big bang, and a mixing of the epic thunderbolts of zeus and hammer of thor,, of which we learned when we were all little
    children, nachon? or i guess i picked up thor living in scandinavia when i was a child, as well, following in the footsteps of the eminent just walkin', who did the same thing recently, in a poem he posted for hitler's birthday, and i had never
    considered that unique approach before, mixing and matching of the mythical gods of different cultures, and liked it very much.

    so there. :-P
    as to the power of hammerings, i was also influenced by both the real life events, and by my ideas/theories as to the evolution of language, of which are too vague to even speak at this point, but was sort of thinking of monkeys pounding on rocks
    to make tools, such as stone instrument and the first knives, believing there to be a connection.
    willie kindly pointed out to me that the common expression is lying in wait...however i was employing a metaphor, and didn't feel it proper to fully anthropomorphize it, when likening the subject to a pinball machine.

    i meant the present participle of lay, set in position for use...and in wait, waiting, a hint at a nefarious affair...

    i found this in my favorite dictionary (however i've been noticing some typos in it recently :-///)

    Lay wait: to lie in wait, or in ambush

    with a few handfuls of examples from literature cited, this one being the most apt:

    - Here the cunning animal lay in wait.
    "International Weekly Miscellany, Vol. 1, No. 5, July 29, 1850" by Various
    here, here's another example of the phrase i quickly googled. i like this dictionary, too, btw:

    https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/lay+wait+for

    if i'm in err here, will someone please correct me?

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    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Rachel on Thu Sep 9 16:35:35 2021
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:19:12 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:50:58 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:14:37 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:12:44 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 5:45:35 AM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:16:21 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:03:58 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been
    Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.
    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).
    you can dig up the progression of the poem from aapc, if you're interested, my "workshop" as george dance so generously and aptly called it to suit the purposes for which i apparently employ it.

    just because a dylan fan speaks of bolts, doesn't necessarily mean he is thinking of chimes of freedom.

    in fact, i was mixing and matching the primordial soup of the cosmos, the notorious collegiate primal scream, akin to the big bang, and a mixing of the epic thunderbolts of zeus and hammer of thor,, of which we learned when we were all little
    children, nachon? or i guess i picked up thor living in scandinavia when i was a child, as well, following in the footsteps of the eminent just walkin', who did the same thing recently, in a poem he posted for hitler's birthday, and i had never
    considered that unique approach before, mixing and matching of the mythical gods of different cultures, and liked it very much.

    so there. :-P
    as to the power of hammerings, i was also influenced by both the real life events, and by my ideas/theories as to the evolution of language, of which are too vague to even speak at this point, but was sort of thinking of monkeys pounding on
    rocks to make tools, such as stone instrument and the first knives, believing there to be a connection.
    willie kindly pointed out to me that the common expression is lying in wait...however i was employing a metaphor, and didn't feel it proper to fully anthropomorphize it, when likening the subject to a pinball machine.

    i meant the present participle of lay, set in position for use...and in wait, waiting, a hint at a nefarious affair...

    i found this in my favorite dictionary (however i've been noticing some typos in it recently :-///)

    Lay wait: to lie in wait, or in ambush

    with a few handfuls of examples from literature cited, this one being the most apt:

    - Here the cunning animal lay in wait.
    "International Weekly Miscellany, Vol. 1, No. 5, July 29, 1850" by Various
    here, here's another example of the phrase i quickly googled. i like this dictionary, too, btw:

    https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/lay+wait+for
    if i'm in err here, will someone please correct me?
    lying in wait just sounds really bad to me. it makes them sound conscious.

    i was taught you teach a dog to lay down, not lie, that it is different between humans and animals, even though we first domesticated the canine and bred them, and made them our dependents.

    it's complicated...there is a hint of sexuality in there as well. i don't know how to explain it.

    poetic license?

    maybe i'm just all wrong.

    forget it.

    it's just a stupid poem.

    sorry keith.

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  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Rachel on Thu Sep 9 16:50:36 2021
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:47:55 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:35:37 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:19:12 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:50:58 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:14:37 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:12:44 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 5:45:35 AM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:16:21 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:03:58 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.
    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).
    you can dig up the progression of the poem from aapc, if you're interested, my "workshop" as george dance so generously and aptly called it to suit the purposes for which i apparently employ it.

    just because a dylan fan speaks of bolts, doesn't necessarily mean he is thinking of chimes of freedom.

    in fact, i was mixing and matching the primordial soup of the cosmos, the notorious collegiate primal scream, akin to the big bang, and a mixing of the epic thunderbolts of zeus and hammer of thor,, of which we learned when we were all
    little children, nachon? or i guess i picked up thor living in scandinavia when i was a child, as well, following in the footsteps of the eminent just walkin', who did the same thing recently, in a poem he posted for hitler's birthday, and i had never
    considered that unique approach before, mixing and matching of the mythical gods of different cultures, and liked it very much.

    so there. :-P
    as to the power of hammerings, i was also influenced by both the real life events, and by my ideas/theories as to the evolution of language, of which are too vague to even speak at this point, but was sort of thinking of monkeys pounding on
    rocks to make tools, such as stone instrument and the first knives, believing there to be a connection.
    willie kindly pointed out to me that the common expression is lying in wait...however i was employing a metaphor, and didn't feel it proper to fully anthropomorphize it, when likening the subject to a pinball machine.

    i meant the present participle of lay, set in position for use...and in wait, waiting, a hint at a nefarious affair...

    i found this in my favorite dictionary (however i've been noticing some typos in it recently :-///)

    Lay wait: to lie in wait, or in ambush

    with a few handfuls of examples from literature cited, this one being the most apt:

    - Here the cunning animal lay in wait.
    "International Weekly Miscellany, Vol. 1, No. 5, July 29, 1850" by Various
    here, here's another example of the phrase i quickly googled. i like this dictionary, too, btw:

    https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/lay+wait+for
    if i'm in err here, will someone please correct me?
    lying in wait just sounds really bad to me. it makes them sound conscious.
    i was taught you teach a dog to lay down, not lie, that it is different between humans and animals, even though we first domesticated the canine and bred them, and made them our dependents.

    it's complicated...there is a hint of sexuality in there as well. i don't know how to explain it.

    poetic license?

    maybe i'm just all wrong.

    forget it.

    it's just a stupid poem.

    sorry keith.
    i will say, also, as a hen lays an egg, laying an egg, in wait for it to crack...

    that sounds like a plausible defense.

    anyone? anyone? bueller? bueller?

    "Don't let an egg get laid in it by something you can't see." - Bob Dylan

    sorry, bob.

    hey bob? you still read this group?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Rachel on Thu Sep 9 16:19:10 2021
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:50:58 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:14:37 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:12:44 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 5:45:35 AM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:16:21 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:03:58 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been
    Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.
    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).
    you can dig up the progression of the poem from aapc, if you're interested, my "workshop" as george dance so generously and aptly called it to suit the purposes for which i apparently employ it.

    just because a dylan fan speaks of bolts, doesn't necessarily mean he is thinking of chimes of freedom.

    in fact, i was mixing and matching the primordial soup of the cosmos, the notorious collegiate primal scream, akin to the big bang, and a mixing of the epic thunderbolts of zeus and hammer of thor,, of which we learned when we were all little
    children, nachon? or i guess i picked up thor living in scandinavia when i was a child, as well, following in the footsteps of the eminent just walkin', who did the same thing recently, in a poem he posted for hitler's birthday, and i had never
    considered that unique approach before, mixing and matching of the mythical gods of different cultures, and liked it very much.

    so there. :-P
    as to the power of hammerings, i was also influenced by both the real life events, and by my ideas/theories as to the evolution of language, of which are too vague to even speak at this point, but was sort of thinking of monkeys pounding on rocks
    to make tools, such as stone instrument and the first knives, believing there to be a connection.
    willie kindly pointed out to me that the common expression is lying in wait...however i was employing a metaphor, and didn't feel it proper to fully anthropomorphize it, when likening the subject to a pinball machine.

    i meant the present participle of lay, set in position for use...and in wait, waiting, a hint at a nefarious affair...

    i found this in my favorite dictionary (however i've been noticing some typos in it recently :-///)

    Lay wait: to lie in wait, or in ambush

    with a few handfuls of examples from literature cited, this one being the most apt:

    - Here the cunning animal lay in wait.
    "International Weekly Miscellany, Vol. 1, No. 5, July 29, 1850" by Various
    here, here's another example of the phrase i quickly googled. i like this dictionary, too, btw:

    https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/lay+wait+for
    if i'm in err here, will someone please correct me?

    lying in wait just sounds really bad to me. it makes them sound conscious.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Rachel on Thu Sep 9 16:47:53 2021
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:35:37 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:19:12 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:50:58 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:14:37 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:12:44 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 5:45:35 AM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:16:21 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:03:58 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.
    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).
    you can dig up the progression of the poem from aapc, if you're interested, my "workshop" as george dance so generously and aptly called it to suit the purposes for which i apparently employ it.

    just because a dylan fan speaks of bolts, doesn't necessarily mean he is thinking of chimes of freedom.

    in fact, i was mixing and matching the primordial soup of the cosmos, the notorious collegiate primal scream, akin to the big bang, and a mixing of the epic thunderbolts of zeus and hammer of thor,, of which we learned when we were all
    little children, nachon? or i guess i picked up thor living in scandinavia when i was a child, as well, following in the footsteps of the eminent just walkin', who did the same thing recently, in a poem he posted for hitler's birthday, and i had never
    considered that unique approach before, mixing and matching of the mythical gods of different cultures, and liked it very much.

    so there. :-P
    as to the power of hammerings, i was also influenced by both the real life events, and by my ideas/theories as to the evolution of language, of which are too vague to even speak at this point, but was sort of thinking of monkeys pounding on
    rocks to make tools, such as stone instrument and the first knives, believing there to be a connection.
    willie kindly pointed out to me that the common expression is lying in wait...however i was employing a metaphor, and didn't feel it proper to fully anthropomorphize it, when likening the subject to a pinball machine.

    i meant the present participle of lay, set in position for use...and in wait, waiting, a hint at a nefarious affair...

    i found this in my favorite dictionary (however i've been noticing some typos in it recently :-///)

    Lay wait: to lie in wait, or in ambush

    with a few handfuls of examples from literature cited, this one being the most apt:

    - Here the cunning animal lay in wait.
    "International Weekly Miscellany, Vol. 1, No. 5, July 29, 1850" by Various
    here, here's another example of the phrase i quickly googled. i like this dictionary, too, btw:

    https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/lay+wait+for
    if i'm in err here, will someone please correct me?
    lying in wait just sounds really bad to me. it makes them sound conscious.
    i was taught you teach a dog to lay down, not lie, that it is different between humans and animals, even though we first domesticated the canine and bred them, and made them our dependents.

    it's complicated...there is a hint of sexuality in there as well. i don't know how to explain it.

    poetic license?

    maybe i'm just all wrong.

    forget it.

    it's just a stupid poem.

    sorry keith.

    i will say, also, as a hen lays an egg, laying an egg, in wait for it to crack...

    that sounds like a plausible defense.

    anyone? anyone? bueller? bueller?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Rachel on Thu Sep 9 16:57:59 2021
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:50:38 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:47:55 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:35:37 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:19:12 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:50:58 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:14:37 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:12:44 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 5:45:35 AM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:16:21 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:03:58 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.
    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).
    you can dig up the progression of the poem from aapc, if you're interested, my "workshop" as george dance so generously and aptly called it to suit the purposes for which i apparently employ it.

    just because a dylan fan speaks of bolts, doesn't necessarily mean he is thinking of chimes of freedom.

    in fact, i was mixing and matching the primordial soup of the cosmos, the notorious collegiate primal scream, akin to the big bang, and a mixing of the epic thunderbolts of zeus and hammer of thor,, of which we learned when we were all
    little children, nachon? or i guess i picked up thor living in scandinavia when i was a child, as well, following in the footsteps of the eminent just walkin', who did the same thing recently, in a poem he posted for hitler's birthday, and i had never
    considered that unique approach before, mixing and matching of the mythical gods of different cultures, and liked it very much.

    so there. :-P
    as to the power of hammerings, i was also influenced by both the real life events, and by my ideas/theories as to the evolution of language, of which are too vague to even speak at this point, but was sort of thinking of monkeys pounding
    on rocks to make tools, such as stone instrument and the first knives, believing there to be a connection.
    willie kindly pointed out to me that the common expression is lying in wait...however i was employing a metaphor, and didn't feel it proper to fully anthropomorphize it, when likening the subject to a pinball machine.

    i meant the present participle of lay, set in position for use...and in wait, waiting, a hint at a nefarious affair...

    i found this in my favorite dictionary (however i've been noticing some typos in it recently :-///)

    Lay wait: to lie in wait, or in ambush

    with a few handfuls of examples from literature cited, this one being the most apt:

    - Here the cunning animal lay in wait.
    "International Weekly Miscellany, Vol. 1, No. 5, July 29, 1850" by Various
    here, here's another example of the phrase i quickly googled. i like this dictionary, too, btw:

    https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/lay+wait+for
    if i'm in err here, will someone please correct me?
    lying in wait just sounds really bad to me. it makes them sound conscious.
    i was taught you teach a dog to lay down, not lie, that it is different between humans and animals, even though we first domesticated the canine and bred them, and made them our dependents.

    it's complicated...there is a hint of sexuality in there as well. i don't know how to explain it.

    poetic license?

    maybe i'm just all wrong.

    forget it.

    it's just a stupid poem.

    sorry keith.
    i will say, also, as a hen lays an egg, laying an egg, in wait for it to crack...

    that sounds like a plausible defense.

    anyone? anyone? bueller? bueller?
    "Don't let an egg get laid in it by something you can't see." - Bob Dylan

    sorry, bob.

    hey bob? you still read this group?

    speaking of which, hey, what are you now, like 80 years old?

    when was the last time you got laid????

    wanna get married?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Rachel on Thu Sep 9 17:47:17 2021
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:58:01 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:50:38 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:47:55 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:35:37 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:19:12 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:50:58 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:14:37 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:12:44 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 5:45:35 AM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:16:21 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:03:58 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.
    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).
    you can dig up the progression of the poem from aapc, if you're interested, my "workshop" as george dance so generously and aptly called it to suit the purposes for which i apparently employ it.

    just because a dylan fan speaks of bolts, doesn't necessarily mean he is thinking of chimes of freedom.

    in fact, i was mixing and matching the primordial soup of the cosmos, the notorious collegiate primal scream, akin to the big bang, and a mixing of the epic thunderbolts of zeus and hammer of thor,, of which we learned when we were
    all little children, nachon? or i guess i picked up thor living in scandinavia when i was a child, as well, following in the footsteps of the eminent just walkin', who did the same thing recently, in a poem he posted for hitler's birthday, and i had
    never considered that unique approach before, mixing and matching of the mythical gods of different cultures, and liked it very much.

    so there. :-P
    as to the power of hammerings, i was also influenced by both the real life events, and by my ideas/theories as to the evolution of language, of which are too vague to even speak at this point, but was sort of thinking of monkeys
    pounding on rocks to make tools, such as stone instrument and the first knives, believing there to be a connection.
    willie kindly pointed out to me that the common expression is lying in wait...however i was employing a metaphor, and didn't feel it proper to fully anthropomorphize it, when likening the subject to a pinball machine.

    i meant the present participle of lay, set in position for use...and in wait, waiting, a hint at a nefarious affair...

    i found this in my favorite dictionary (however i've been noticing some typos in it recently :-///)

    Lay wait: to lie in wait, or in ambush

    with a few handfuls of examples from literature cited, this one being the most apt:

    - Here the cunning animal lay in wait.
    "International Weekly Miscellany, Vol. 1, No. 5, July 29, 1850" by Various
    here, here's another example of the phrase i quickly googled. i like this dictionary, too, btw:

    https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/lay+wait+for
    if i'm in err here, will someone please correct me?
    lying in wait just sounds really bad to me. it makes them sound conscious.
    i was taught you teach a dog to lay down, not lie, that it is different between humans and animals, even though we first domesticated the canine and bred them, and made them our dependents.

    it's complicated...there is a hint of sexuality in there as well. i don't know how to explain it.

    poetic license?

    maybe i'm just all wrong.

    forget it.

    it's just a stupid poem.

    sorry keith.
    i will say, also, as a hen lays an egg, laying an egg, in wait for it to crack...

    that sounds like a plausible defense.

    anyone? anyone? bueller? bueller?
    "Don't let an egg get laid in it by something you can't see." - Bob Dylan

    sorry, bob.

    hey bob? you still read this group?
    speaking of which, hey, what are you now, like 80 years old?

    when was the last time you got laid????

    wanna get married?

    i used to LOVE fellatio, btw, when i was sexually active, before we, you and i, uh, well, you know what happened....

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Rachel on Thu Sep 9 17:48:17 2021
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 5:47:18 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:58:01 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:50:38 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:47:55 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:35:37 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:19:12 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:50:58 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:14:37 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:12:44 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 5:45:35 AM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:16:21 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:03:58 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been
    Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.
    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).
    you can dig up the progression of the poem from aapc, if you're interested, my "workshop" as george dance so generously and aptly called it to suit the purposes for which i apparently employ it.

    just because a dylan fan speaks of bolts, doesn't necessarily mean he is thinking of chimes of freedom.

    in fact, i was mixing and matching the primordial soup of the cosmos, the notorious collegiate primal scream, akin to the big bang, and a mixing of the epic thunderbolts of zeus and hammer of thor,, of which we learned when we were
    all little children, nachon? or i guess i picked up thor living in scandinavia when i was a child, as well, following in the footsteps of the eminent just walkin', who did the same thing recently, in a poem he posted for hitler's birthday, and i had
    never considered that unique approach before, mixing and matching of the mythical gods of different cultures, and liked it very much.

    so there. :-P
    as to the power of hammerings, i was also influenced by both the real life events, and by my ideas/theories as to the evolution of language, of which are too vague to even speak at this point, but was sort of thinking of monkeys
    pounding on rocks to make tools, such as stone instrument and the first knives, believing there to be a connection.
    willie kindly pointed out to me that the common expression is lying in wait...however i was employing a metaphor, and didn't feel it proper to fully anthropomorphize it, when likening the subject to a pinball machine.

    i meant the present participle of lay, set in position for use...and in wait, waiting, a hint at a nefarious affair...

    i found this in my favorite dictionary (however i've been noticing some typos in it recently :-///)

    Lay wait: to lie in wait, or in ambush

    with a few handfuls of examples from literature cited, this one being the most apt:

    - Here the cunning animal lay in wait.
    "International Weekly Miscellany, Vol. 1, No. 5, July 29, 1850" by Various
    here, here's another example of the phrase i quickly googled. i like this dictionary, too, btw:

    https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/lay+wait+for
    if i'm in err here, will someone please correct me?
    lying in wait just sounds really bad to me. it makes them sound conscious.
    i was taught you teach a dog to lay down, not lie, that it is different between humans and animals, even though we first domesticated the canine and bred them, and made them our dependents.

    it's complicated...there is a hint of sexuality in there as well. i don't know how to explain it.

    poetic license?

    maybe i'm just all wrong.

    forget it.

    it's just a stupid poem.

    sorry keith.
    i will say, also, as a hen lays an egg, laying an egg, in wait for it to crack...

    that sounds like a plausible defense.

    anyone? anyone? bueller? bueller?
    "Don't let an egg get laid in it by something you can't see." - Bob Dylan

    sorry, bob.

    hey bob? you still read this group?
    speaking of which, hey, what are you now, like 80 years old?

    when was the last time you got laid????

    wanna get married?
    i used to LOVE fellatio, btw, when i was sexually active, before we, you and i, uh, well, you know what happened....

    sort of permanently altered the trajectory of my future vaginal activity...(or lack thereof)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Rachel on Thu Sep 9 17:59:11 2021
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 5:48:19 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 5:47:18 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:58:01 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:50:38 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:47:55 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:35:37 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:19:12 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:50:58 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:14:37 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:12:44 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 5:45:35 AM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:16:21 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:03:58 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been
    Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.
    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).
    you can dig up the progression of the poem from aapc, if you're interested, my "workshop" as george dance so generously and aptly called it to suit the purposes for which i apparently employ it.

    just because a dylan fan speaks of bolts, doesn't necessarily mean he is thinking of chimes of freedom.

    in fact, i was mixing and matching the primordial soup of the cosmos, the notorious collegiate primal scream, akin to the big bang, and a mixing of the epic thunderbolts of zeus and hammer of thor,, of which we learned when we
    were all little children, nachon? or i guess i picked up thor living in scandinavia when i was a child, as well, following in the footsteps of the eminent just walkin', who did the same thing recently, in a poem he posted for hitler's birthday, and i had
    never considered that unique approach before, mixing and matching of the mythical gods of different cultures, and liked it very much.

    so there. :-P
    as to the power of hammerings, i was also influenced by both the real life events, and by my ideas/theories as to the evolution of language, of which are too vague to even speak at this point, but was sort of thinking of monkeys
    pounding on rocks to make tools, such as stone instrument and the first knives, believing there to be a connection.
    willie kindly pointed out to me that the common expression is lying in wait...however i was employing a metaphor, and didn't feel it proper to fully anthropomorphize it, when likening the subject to a pinball machine.

    i meant the present participle of lay, set in position for use...and in wait, waiting, a hint at a nefarious affair...

    i found this in my favorite dictionary (however i've been noticing some typos in it recently :-///)

    Lay wait: to lie in wait, or in ambush

    with a few handfuls of examples from literature cited, this one being the most apt:

    - Here the cunning animal lay in wait.
    "International Weekly Miscellany, Vol. 1, No. 5, July 29, 1850" by Various
    here, here's another example of the phrase i quickly googled. i like this dictionary, too, btw:

    https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/lay+wait+for
    if i'm in err here, will someone please correct me?
    lying in wait just sounds really bad to me. it makes them sound conscious.
    i was taught you teach a dog to lay down, not lie, that it is different between humans and animals, even though we first domesticated the canine and bred them, and made them our dependents.

    it's complicated...there is a hint of sexuality in there as well. i don't know how to explain it.

    poetic license?

    maybe i'm just all wrong.

    forget it.

    it's just a stupid poem.

    sorry keith.
    i will say, also, as a hen lays an egg, laying an egg, in wait for it to crack...

    that sounds like a plausible defense.

    anyone? anyone? bueller? bueller?
    "Don't let an egg get laid in it by something you can't see." - Bob Dylan

    sorry, bob.

    hey bob? you still read this group?
    speaking of which, hey, what are you now, like 80 years old?

    when was the last time you got laid????

    wanna get married?
    i used to LOVE fellatio, btw, when i was sexually active, before we, you and i, uh, well, you know what happened....
    sort of permanently altered the trajectory of my future vaginal activity...(or lack thereof)

    what about you ? does your penis have a mate ?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Willie@21:1/5 to Rachel on Thu Sep 9 18:12:00 2021
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 7:19:12 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:50:58 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:14:37 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:12:44 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 5:45:35 AM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:16:21 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:03:58 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been
    Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.
    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).
    you can dig up the progression of the poem from aapc, if you're interested, my "workshop" as george dance so generously and aptly called it to suit the purposes for which i apparently employ it.

    just because a dylan fan speaks of bolts, doesn't necessarily mean he is thinking of chimes of freedom.

    in fact, i was mixing and matching the primordial soup of the cosmos, the notorious collegiate primal scream, akin to the big bang, and a mixing of the epic thunderbolts of zeus and hammer of thor,, of which we learned when we were all little
    children, nachon? or i guess i picked up thor living in scandinavia when i was a child, as well, following in the footsteps of the eminent just walkin', who did the same thing recently, in a poem he posted for hitler's birthday, and i had never
    considered that unique approach before, mixing and matching of the mythical gods of different cultures, and liked it very much.

    so there. :-P
    as to the power of hammerings, i was also influenced by both the real life events, and by my ideas/theories as to the evolution of language, of which are too vague to even speak at this point, but was sort of thinking of monkeys pounding on
    rocks to make tools, such as stone instrument and the first knives, believing there to be a connection.
    willie kindly pointed out to me that the common expression is lying in wait...however i was employing a metaphor, and didn't feel it proper to fully anthropomorphize it, when likening the subject to a pinball machine.

    i meant the present participle of lay, set in position for use...and in wait, waiting, a hint at a nefarious affair...

    i found this in my favorite dictionary (however i've been noticing some typos in it recently :-///)

    Lay wait: to lie in wait, or in ambush

    with a few handfuls of examples from literature cited, this one being the most apt:

    - Here the cunning animal lay in wait.
    "International Weekly Miscellany, Vol. 1, No. 5, July 29, 1850" by Various
    here, here's another example of the phrase i quickly googled. i like this dictionary, too, btw:

    https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/lay+wait+for
    if i'm in err here, will someone please correct me?
    lying in wait just sounds really bad to me. it makes them sound conscious.

    Maybe lying in wait would bring in a word play on it all being a cosmic deception. Nah, keep it as laying.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Willie on Thu Sep 9 18:35:34 2021
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 6:12:02 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 7:19:12 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:50:58 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:14:37 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:12:44 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 5:45:35 AM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:16:21 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:03:58 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.
    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).
    you can dig up the progression of the poem from aapc, if you're interested, my "workshop" as george dance so generously and aptly called it to suit the purposes for which i apparently employ it.

    just because a dylan fan speaks of bolts, doesn't necessarily mean he is thinking of chimes of freedom.

    in fact, i was mixing and matching the primordial soup of the cosmos, the notorious collegiate primal scream, akin to the big bang, and a mixing of the epic thunderbolts of zeus and hammer of thor,, of which we learned when we were all
    little children, nachon? or i guess i picked up thor living in scandinavia when i was a child, as well, following in the footsteps of the eminent just walkin', who did the same thing recently, in a poem he posted for hitler's birthday, and i had never
    considered that unique approach before, mixing and matching of the mythical gods of different cultures, and liked it very much.

    so there. :-P
    as to the power of hammerings, i was also influenced by both the real life events, and by my ideas/theories as to the evolution of language, of which are too vague to even speak at this point, but was sort of thinking of monkeys pounding on
    rocks to make tools, such as stone instrument and the first knives, believing there to be a connection.
    willie kindly pointed out to me that the common expression is lying in wait...however i was employing a metaphor, and didn't feel it proper to fully anthropomorphize it, when likening the subject to a pinball machine.

    i meant the present participle of lay, set in position for use...and in wait, waiting, a hint at a nefarious affair...

    i found this in my favorite dictionary (however i've been noticing some typos in it recently :-///)

    Lay wait: to lie in wait, or in ambush

    with a few handfuls of examples from literature cited, this one being the most apt:

    - Here the cunning animal lay in wait.
    "International Weekly Miscellany, Vol. 1, No. 5, July 29, 1850" by Various
    here, here's another example of the phrase i quickly googled. i like this dictionary, too, btw:

    https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/lay+wait+for
    if i'm in err here, will someone please correct me?
    lying in wait just sounds really bad to me. it makes them sound conscious.
    Maybe lying in wait would bring in a word play on it all being a cosmic deception. Nah, keep it as laying.

    chicken coops open, all trucks must weigh in.... ;-)

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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to Rachel on Thu Sep 9 22:01:55 2021
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:

    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.



    Best version yet.

    😎

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  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Willie on Fri Sep 10 07:49:30 2021
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 6:12:02 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 7:19:12 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:50:58 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:14:37 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 3:12:44 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 5:45:35 AM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:16:21 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:03:58 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.
    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).
    you can dig up the progression of the poem from aapc, if you're interested, my "workshop" as george dance so generously and aptly called it to suit the purposes for which i apparently employ it.

    just because a dylan fan speaks of bolts, doesn't necessarily mean he is thinking of chimes of freedom.

    in fact, i was mixing and matching the primordial soup of the cosmos, the notorious collegiate primal scream, akin to the big bang, and a mixing of the epic thunderbolts of zeus and hammer of thor,, of which we learned when we were all
    little children, nachon? or i guess i picked up thor living in scandinavia when i was a child, as well, following in the footsteps of the eminent just walkin', who did the same thing recently, in a poem he posted for hitler's birthday, and i had never
    considered that unique approach before, mixing and matching of the mythical gods of different cultures, and liked it very much.

    so there. :-P
    as to the power of hammerings, i was also influenced by both the real life events, and by my ideas/theories as to the evolution of language, of which are too vague to even speak at this point, but was sort of thinking of monkeys pounding on
    rocks to make tools, such as stone instrument and the first knives, believing there to be a connection.
    willie kindly pointed out to me that the common expression is lying in wait...however i was employing a metaphor, and didn't feel it proper to fully anthropomorphize it, when likening the subject to a pinball machine.

    i meant the present participle of lay, set in position for use...and in wait, waiting, a hint at a nefarious affair...

    i found this in my favorite dictionary (however i've been noticing some typos in it recently :-///)

    Lay wait: to lie in wait, or in ambush

    with a few handfuls of examples from literature cited, this one being the most apt:

    - Here the cunning animal lay in wait.
    "International Weekly Miscellany, Vol. 1, No. 5, July 29, 1850" by Various
    here, here's another example of the phrase i quickly googled. i like this dictionary, too, btw:

    https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/lay+wait+for
    if i'm in err here, will someone please correct me?
    lying in wait just sounds really bad to me. it makes them sound conscious.
    Maybe lying in wait would bring in a word play on it all being a cosmic deception. Nah, keep it as laying.

    i think laying is the play the stretch of language....also, there since we're talking about the music....there's laying track....which i've heard of, not being a recording industry aficionado myself, but there's that hint, too.

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  • From Zod@21:1/5 to Willie on Fri Sep 10 14:15:09 2021
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:48:16 PM UTC-4, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been
    Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.

    Agreed and seconded.....

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  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Willie on Fri Sep 10 15:45:10 2021
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:03:58 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been
    Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.
    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).

    i just meant about the beatles!!! bob rules, but unless it's OBVIOUS, like god on our side, or whatever, i mean, it comes from ME!!!! (my education and life experience, i guess. i mean, i DO have my own brain, or, well, the remnants of one....) i think
    it's absurd to say, ah, you wrote something other people have said, they must have influenced you. i don't know about the beatles, and i don't *care* about the beatles.

    i like julian lennon, though! :-)

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  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Rachel on Wed Sep 15 08:42:30 2021
    On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 8:41:02 AM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 8:27:58 AM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 8:23:53 AM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 3:45:11 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:03:58 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been
    Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.
    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).
    i just meant about the beatles!!! bob rules, but unless it's OBVIOUS, like god on our side, or whatever, i mean, it comes from ME!!!! (my education and life experience, i guess. i mean, i DO have my own brain, or, well, the remnants of one....) i
    think it's absurd to say, ah, you wrote something other people have said, they must have influenced you. i don't know about the beatles, and i don't *care* about the beatles.

    i like julian lennon, though! :-)
    i was thinking of saying this yesterday, but it was sorta like.....well, i'm not here to save the world or anything....but ringo seems chill....
    it's weird, he hangs around here a lot. remember that time he was at the house of blues, where i met those two girls (women), we got stoned, they gave me a ride home from andré's, not always my favorite place :-//// but it's weird, it depends, haven'
    t been for years, and then also, i mean, i can say this, it's not a secret, i mean, duh, but he was giving a big talk at a brentwood i think it was aa meeting a number of years back.

    obviously nobody was saying it like, omg, can you believe it, a big famous rock star used to have issues with the drink?!?!!??!?!?!

    man, some people never even HEARD of paul mccartney, what WORLD is this????

    help, i've fallen and i can't get up!!!!!!
    i just saw a mention of him in er, that's why i said it...

    oh wow...i just saw about norm....wow....that's so sad. :-///

    bob, this isn't nice you taking a chance with my life like this...ykwim...

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  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Rachel on Wed Sep 15 08:27:57 2021
    On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 8:23:53 AM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 3:45:11 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:03:58 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been
    Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.
    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).
    i just meant about the beatles!!! bob rules, but unless it's OBVIOUS, like god on our side, or whatever, i mean, it comes from ME!!!! (my education and life experience, i guess. i mean, i DO have my own brain, or, well, the remnants of one....) i
    think it's absurd to say, ah, you wrote something other people have said, they must have influenced you. i don't know about the beatles, and i don't *care* about the beatles.

    i like julian lennon, though! :-)
    i was thinking of saying this yesterday, but it was sorta like.....well, i'm not here to save the world or anything....but ringo seems chill....

    it's weird, he hangs around here a lot. remember that time he was at the house of blues, where i met those two girls (women), we got stoned, they gave me a ride home from andré's, not always my favorite place :-//// but it's weird, it depends, haven't
    been for years, and then also, i mean, i can say this, it's not a secret, i mean, duh, but he was giving a big talk at a brentwood i think it was aa meeting a number of years back.

    obviously nobody was saying it like, omg, can you believe it, a big famous rock star used to have issues with the drink?!?!!??!?!?!

    man, some people never even HEARD of paul mccartney, what WORLD is this????

    help, i've fallen and i can't get up!!!!!!

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  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Rachel on Wed Sep 15 08:41:01 2021
    On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 8:27:58 AM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 8:23:53 AM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 3:45:11 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:03:58 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been
    Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.
    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).
    i just meant about the beatles!!! bob rules, but unless it's OBVIOUS, like god on our side, or whatever, i mean, it comes from ME!!!! (my education and life experience, i guess. i mean, i DO have my own brain, or, well, the remnants of one....) i
    think it's absurd to say, ah, you wrote something other people have said, they must have influenced you. i don't know about the beatles, and i don't *care* about the beatles.

    i like julian lennon, though! :-)
    i was thinking of saying this yesterday, but it was sorta like.....well, i'm not here to save the world or anything....but ringo seems chill....
    it's weird, he hangs around here a lot. remember that time he was at the house of blues, where i met those two girls (women), we got stoned, they gave me a ride home from andré's, not always my favorite place :-//// but it's weird, it depends, haven't
    been for years, and then also, i mean, i can say this, it's not a secret, i mean, duh, but he was giving a big talk at a brentwood i think it was aa meeting a number of years back.

    obviously nobody was saying it like, omg, can you believe it, a big famous rock star used to have issues with the drink?!?!!??!?!?!

    man, some people never even HEARD of paul mccartney, what WORLD is this????

    help, i've fallen and i can't get up!!!!!!

    i just saw a mention of him in er, that's why i said it...

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  • From Rachel@21:1/5 to Rachel on Wed Sep 15 08:23:51 2021
    On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 3:45:11 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 1:03:58 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:10:47 AM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
    The Hysterical Bride

    Metallic Pinballs, Sharp and Shiny,
    were First-Fisted, locked in,
    Coiled Springs laying in wait
    for a driven Tail Spin;

    Pulled Back, then shot out,
    like a Bumper Car ride,
    Darting madly across
    the Spread-Eagled Sky −

    Destiny reigned down
    her Torrent Complete,
    door slamming,
    the Pounding of bare-naked Feet −

    Primordial Bolts, from the Power
    of Hammerings,
    Startled, the deer,
    these Thunderous Clamorings.

    the Devil opened his door
    to Light up the route,
    Leaving Directions in there,
    They mapped it all out;

    Our concocted Potion
    of a Best of Luck Chain,
    Soldered together
    with gold Silver Rain −

    Meet Ma’s Modern-Day,
    Midwestern,
    ‘Lectric Lightnin’ Loops,
    The ceremonial conjoining
    of a new Chicken Coop −

    See our Rough, Rowdy Roller-Coaster
    Masters at War,
    delight in the Plight
    of these Sisyphus whores;

    Trapped on a Ping-Pong
    back and forth journey −
    With a cry and a moan
    Begins their Bipolar Tragedy.

    We’re passing out tickets,
    across the Great Divide
    a new revolution,
    with God on Our Side −

    a Royal inborn
    freshwater Splash,
    their ancient Spiny White River
    is Tapped:

    Released it goes Streaming
    through the air waves of Sages,
    Tearing over chiseled Red Rocks,
    it Ravages, Rages.

    Through narrowing Caverns it Echoes,
    It pleads and It screams:

    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −

    They Crashed all Contorted
    into our own Lake of Fire,
    Twisted and Blistering,
    reporting, “Shut up, Don’t cry!”

    The Battle Call rang out,
    remembered,
    A splattering refrain
    The exquisite Luxury of Boredom,
    Tedious, and Plain −

    Haunted and cut-up,
    By her own harrowing Snake Hues:
    The lost diamond ring
    of our Dauphin in blue.

    An empty chasm of Amusement
    for a Stately Royal few
    Just another fucked-up Deranged
    Schizophrenic Jew −

    No choice left, nothing to Do
    But to Sing;
    A Perfectly Executed
    Cult murder Sting.


    A most excellent poem. I think "Chimes of Freedom" came a-visiting for parts of it. Also, weirdly, "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (in your lines that start with "Meet," "See," and my favorites:
    Count
    the Ticking of Clocks...
    Watch
    the karma of Dreams −
    And the Beatles might have crept in again in the the "No choice left, nothing to Do" lines, from "Good Morning Good Morning":

    Nothing to do to save his life, call his wife in
    Nothing to say but what a day, how's your boy been
    Nothing to do it's up to you,
    I've got nothing to say but it's OK

    Glad to see the juices are flowing.
    that's a completely insane hypothesis. i am not even familiar with more than half of the sources you quoted. this is utterly absurd, william.
    please avoid comparing me to such dreg slops in the future.
    Sorry. I see your point (that is, why you were offended).
    i just meant about the beatles!!! bob rules, but unless it's OBVIOUS, like god on our side, or whatever, i mean, it comes from ME!!!! (my education and life experience, i guess. i mean, i DO have my own brain, or, well, the remnants of one....) i think
    it's absurd to say, ah, you wrote something other people have said, they must have influenced you. i don't know about the beatles, and i don't *care* about the beatles.

    i like julian lennon, though! :-)

    i was thinking of saying this yesterday, but it was sorta like.....well, i'm not here to save the world or anything....but ringo seems chill....

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