• Some will rob you with a six-gun/And some with a fountain pen

    From K. Hematite@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 22 21:45:43 2022
    New York Times
    By Remy Tumin
    Nov. 22, 2022
    Henry Bernstein has seen Bob Dylan 27 times in concert and owns three items autographed by him: a copy of “The Freewheelin’ Bob Dylan” album, a photograph of the singer and a “John Wesley Harding” songbook. His favorite song is “Tangled Up in
    Blue.”

    So when Simon & Schuster, Dylan’s publisher, advertised limited-edition, hand-signed copies of the musician’s new collection of essays for $600 each, Bernstein was among 900 fans who went for one. Last week, he received his copy of “The Philosophy
    of Modern Song,” Dylan’s first collection of writings since he won the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2016, with a letter of authenticity signed by Jonathan Karp, the publisher’s chief executive.

    There was only one problem.

    Karp’s signature “looked more legit than Bob’s,” Bernstein said.

    Bernstein was one of hundreds of fans who sleuthed their way around social media, reaching the conclusion that the supposedly hand-signed books had not, in fact, been signed by Dylan.

    “I got the nostalgia bug,” said Bernstein, who already owned an unsigned copy of the book, as well as a Kindle version and an audio version. He added, “If he touches this book — he wrote it, signed it — it feels like the soul of Bob Dylan is
    with me.”

    Instead, many fans suggested that the “autographed” copies of the book had been signed by a machine.

    Justin Steffman, a professional authenticator who runs a Facebook group for collectors, said the autograph was most likely created by an autopen. The machine, which recreates signatures, is used by universities, celebrities and, most notably, the White
    House.

    Handwritten penmanship normally has a flow, Steffman said. But “with a pen machine, it goes from point to point,” he said, adding that the beginning and the end points of each stroke apply more pressure to the page. Dylan’s autograph in the new
    books also appears to have a “slight shakiness throughout the signature,” he said.

    “It does not look like something a person signed; it looks like a copy,” Steffman said.

    As orders began arriving last week, Dylan fans began comparing notes online, and it quickly became clear that something was amiss, Steffman said. Steffman collected images of at least 17 signatures that all looked as if they had been created by a machine.
    Items autographed by Dylan typically sell for $1,500 or $2,000, he added.

    “They started popping up, everyone received them the same day and it was instant — we all realized it was an autopen,” Steffman said. “More and more people shared their copies, and we all put it together.”

    Steffman said Simon & Schuster’s customer service had originally refused to issue refunds and had even denounced “online rumors” about the possibility that the signature was a fake. Twitter and Reddit users also chimed in; a chat board organized by
    a fan encouraged others who had purchased the book to write directly to Karp, the Simon & Schuster chief executive. Fans flooded his inbox, including Bernstein, who, like others, received a personal response from Karp promising a speedy refund.

    By Sunday, Simon & Schuster had issued a public statement that offered few details but acknowledged that Dylan’s signature had been rendered “in a penned replica form.” The publisher said it would give buyers “an immediate refund.”

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  • From Chris Pyle@21:1/5 to K. Hematite on Wed Nov 23 09:07:15 2022
    On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:45:45 AM UTC-5, K. Hematite wrote:
    New York Times
    By Remy Tumin
    Nov. 22, 2022
    Henry Bernstein has seen Bob Dylan 27 times in concert and owns three items autographed by him: a copy of “The Freewheelin’ Bob Dylan” album, a photograph of the singer and a “John Wesley Harding” songbook. His favorite song is “Tangled Up
    in Blue.”

    So when Simon & Schuster, Dylan’s publisher, advertised limited-edition, hand-signed copies of the musician’s new collection of essays for $600 each, Bernstein was among 900 fans who went for one. Last week, he received his copy of “The
    Philosophy of Modern Song,” Dylan’s first collection of writings since he won the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2016, with a letter of authenticity signed by Jonathan Karp, the publisher’s chief executive.

    There was only one problem.

    Karp’s signature “looked more legit than Bob’s,” Bernstein said.

    Bernstein was one of hundreds of fans who sleuthed their way around social media, reaching the conclusion that the supposedly hand-signed books had not, in fact, been signed by Dylan.

    “I got the nostalgia bug,” said Bernstein, who already owned an unsigned copy of the book, as well as a Kindle version and an audio version. He added, “If he touches this book — he wrote it, signed it — it feels like the soul of Bob Dylan is
    with me.”

    Instead, many fans suggested that the “autographed” copies of the book had been signed by a machine.

    Justin Steffman, a professional authenticator who runs a Facebook group for collectors, said the autograph was most likely created by an autopen. The machine, which recreates signatures, is used by universities, celebrities and, most notably, the White
    House.

    Handwritten penmanship normally has a flow, Steffman said. But “with a pen machine, it goes from point to point,” he said, adding that the beginning and the end points of each stroke apply more pressure to the page. Dylan’s autograph in the new
    books also appears to have a “slight shakiness throughout the signature,” he said.

    “It does not look like something a person signed; it looks like a copy,” Steffman said.

    As orders began arriving last week, Dylan fans began comparing notes online, and it quickly became clear that something was amiss, Steffman said. Steffman collected images of at least 17 signatures that all looked as if they had been created by a
    machine. Items autographed by Dylan typically sell for $1,500 or $2,000, he added.

    “They started popping up, everyone received them the same day and it was instant — we all realized it was an autopen,” Steffman said. “More and more people shared their copies, and we all put it together.”

    Steffman said Simon & Schuster’s customer service had originally refused to issue refunds and had even denounced “online rumors” about the possibility that the signature was a fake. Twitter and Reddit users also chimed in; a chat board organized
    by a fan encouraged others who had purchased the book to write directly to Karp, the Simon & Schuster chief executive. Fans flooded his inbox, including Bernstein, who, like others, received a personal response from Karp promising a speedy refund.

    By Sunday, Simon & Schuster had issued a public statement that offered few details but acknowledged that Dylan’s signature had been rendered “in a penned replica form.” The publisher said it would give buyers “an immediate refund.”I

    Wow, just think of the other items out there!

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  • From pcallas@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 23 11:05:22 2022
    I wonder how many lawyers it took to come up with the line that it's "Bob's original signature, but in a penned replica form."

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  • From Just Kidding@21:1/5 to khematite@gmail.com on Fri Nov 25 13:07:59 2022
    On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 21:45:43 -0800 (PST), "K. Hematite"
    <khematite@gmail.com> wrote:

    New York Times
    By Remy Tumin
    Nov. 22, 2022
    Henry Bernstein has seen Bob Dylan 27 times in concert and owns three items autographed by him: a copy of The Freewheelin Bob Dylan album, a photograph of the singer and a John Wesley Harding songbook. His favorite song is Tangled Up in Blue.

    So when Simon & Schuster, Dylans publisher, advertised limited-edition, hand-signed copies of the musicians new collection of essays for $600 each, Bernstein was among 900 fans who went for one. Last week, he received his copy of The Philosophy of
    Modern Song, Dylans first collection of writings since he won the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2016, with a letter of authenticity signed by Jonathan Karp, the publishers chief executive.

    There was only one problem.

    Karps signature looked more legit than Bobs, Bernstein said.

    Bernstein was one of hundreds of fans who sleuthed their way around social media, reaching the conclusion that the supposedly hand-signed books had not, in fact, been signed by Dylan.

    I got the nostalgia bug, said Bernstein, who already owned an unsigned copy of the book, as well as a Kindle version and an audio version. He added, If he touches this book he wrote it, signed it it feels like the soul of Bob Dylan is with me.

    Instead, many fans suggested that the autographed copies of the book had been signed by a machine.

    Justin Steffman, a professional authenticator who runs a Facebook group for collectors, said the autograph was most likely created by an autopen. The machine, which recreates signatures, is used by universities, celebrities and, most notably, the White
    House.

    Handwritten penmanship normally has a flow, Steffman said. But with a pen machine, it goes from point to point, he said, adding that the beginning and the end points of each stroke apply more pressure to the page. Dylans autograph in the new books
    also appears to have a slight shakiness throughout the signature, he said.

    It does not look like something a person signed; it looks like a copy, Steffman said.

    As orders began arriving last week, Dylan fans began comparing notes online, and it quickly became clear that something was amiss, Steffman said. Steffman collected images of at least 17 signatures that all looked as if they had been created by a
    machine. Items autographed by Dylan typically sell for $1,500 or $2,000, he added.

    They started popping up, everyone received them the same day and it was instant we all realized it was an autopen, Steffman said. More and more people shared their copies, and we all put it together.

    Steffman said Simon & Schusters customer service had originally refused to issue refunds and had even denounced online rumors about the possibility that the signature was a fake. Twitter and Reddit users also chimed in; a chat board organized by a
    fan encouraged others who had purchased the book to write directly to Karp, the Simon & Schuster chief executive. Fans flooded his inbox, including Bernstein, who, like others, received a personal response from Karp promising a speedy refund.

    By Sunday, Simon & Schuster had issued a public statement that offered few details but acknowledged that Dylans signature had been rendered in a penned replica form. The publisher said it would give buyers an immediate refund.

    This is one reason why the whole memorabilia scene has no interest for
    me. Why does anyone care about having a celebrity's autograph?

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  • From Zod@21:1/5 to K. Hematite on Wed Nov 30 23:03:07 2022
    On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:45:45 AM UTC-5, K. Hematite wrote:
    New York Times
    By Remy Tumin
    Nov. 22, 2022
    Henry Bernstein has seen Bob Dylan 27 times in concert and owns three items autographed by him: a copy of “The Freewheelin’ Bob Dylan” album, a photograph of the singer and a “John Wesley Harding” songbook. His favorite song is “Tangled Up
    in Blue.”

    So when Simon & Schuster, Dylan’s publisher, advertised limited-edition, hand-signed copies of the musician’s new collection of essays for $600 each, Bernstein was among 900 fans who went for one. Last week, he received his copy of “The
    Philosophy of Modern Song,” Dylan’s first collection of writings since he won the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2016, with a letter of authenticity signed by Jonathan Karp, the publisher’s chief executive.

    There was only one problem.

    Karp’s signature “looked more legit than Bob’s,” Bernstein said.

    Bernstein was one of hundreds of fans who sleuthed their way around social media, reaching the conclusion that the supposedly hand-signed books had not, in fact, been signed by Dylan.

    “I got the nostalgia bug,” said Bernstein, who already owned an unsigned copy of the book, as well as a Kindle version and an audio version. He added, “If he touches this book — he wrote it, signed it — it feels like the soul of Bob Dylan is
    with me.”

    Instead, many fans suggested that the “autographed” copies of the book had been signed by a machine.

    Justin Steffman, a professional authenticator who runs a Facebook group for collectors, said the autograph was most likely created by an autopen. The machine, which recreates signatures, is used by universities, celebrities and, most notably, the White
    House.

    Handwritten penmanship normally has a flow, Steffman said. But “with a pen machine, it goes from point to point,” he said, adding that the beginning and the end points of each stroke apply more pressure to the page. Dylan’s autograph in the new
    books also appears to have a “slight shakiness throughout the signature,” he said.

    “It does not look like something a person signed; it looks like a copy,” Steffman said.

    As orders began arriving last week, Dylan fans began comparing notes online, and it quickly became clear that something was amiss, Steffman said. Steffman collected images of at least 17 signatures that all looked as if they had been created by a
    machine. Items autographed by Dylan typically sell for $1,500 or $2,000, he added.

    “They started popping up, everyone received them the same day and it was instant — we all realized it was an autopen,” Steffman said. “More and more people shared their copies, and we all put it together.”

    Steffman said Simon & Schuster’s customer service had originally refused to issue refunds and had even denounced “online rumors” about the possibility that the signature was a fake. Twitter and Reddit users also chimed in; a chat board organized
    by a fan encouraged others who had purchased the book to write directly to Karp, the Simon & Schuster chief executive. Fans flooded his inbox, including Bernstein, who, like others, received a personal response from Karp promising a speedy refund.

    By Sunday, Simon & Schuster had issued a public statement that offered few details but acknowledged that Dylan’s signature had been rendered “in a penned replica form.” The publisher said it would give buyers “an immediate refund.”

    The Jew must come out sooner or later.

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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 1 05:48:23 2022
    On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 2:03:09 AM UTC-5, fake Zod forged:
    On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:45:45 AM UTC-5, K. Hematite wrote:


    New York Times
    By Remy Tumin
    Nov. 22, 2022
    Henry Bernstein has seen Bob Dylan 27 times in concert and owns three items autographed by him: a copy of “The Freewheelin’ Bob Dylan” album, a photograph of the singer and a “John Wesley Harding” songbook. His favorite song is “Tangled
    Up in Blue.”

    So when Simon & Schuster, Dylan’s publisher, advertised limited-edition, hand-signed copies of the musician’s new collection of essays for $600 each, Bernstein was among 900 fans who went for one. Last week, he received his copy of “The
    Philosophy of Modern Song,” Dylan’s first collection of writings since he won the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2016, with a letter of authenticity signed by Jonathan Karp, the publisher’s chief executive.

    There was only one problem.

    Karp’s signature “looked more legit than Bob’s,” Bernstein said.

    Bernstein was one of hundreds of fans who sleuthed their way around social media, reaching the conclusion that the supposedly hand-signed books had not, in fact, been signed by Dylan.

    “I got the nostalgia bug,” said Bernstein, who already owned an unsigned copy of the book, as well as a Kindle version and an audio version. He added, “If he touches this book — he wrote it, signed it — it feels like the soul of Bob Dylan
    is with me.”

    Instead, many fans suggested that the “autographed” copies of the book had been signed by a machine.

    Justin Steffman, a professional authenticator who runs a Facebook group for collectors, said the autograph was most likely created by an autopen. The machine, which recreates signatures, is used by universities, celebrities and, most notably, the
    White House.

    Handwritten penmanship normally has a flow, Steffman said. But “with a pen machine, it goes from point to point,” he said, adding that the beginning and the end points of each stroke apply more pressure to the page. Dylan’s autograph in the new
    books also appears to have a “slight shakiness throughout the signature,” he said.

    “It does not look like something a person signed; it looks like a copy,” Steffman said.

    As orders began arriving last week, Dylan fans began comparing notes online, and it quickly became clear that something was amiss, Steffman said. Steffman collected images of at least 17 signatures that all looked as if they had been created by a
    machine. Items autographed by Dylan typically sell for $1,500 or $2,000, he added.

    “They started popping up, everyone received them the same day and it was instant — we all realized it was an autopen,” Steffman said. “More and more people shared their copies, and we all put it together.”

    Steffman said Simon & Schuster’s customer service had originally refused to issue refunds and had even denounced “online rumors” about the possibility that the signature was a fake. Twitter and Reddit users also chimed in; a chat board
    organized by a fan encouraged others who had purchased the book to write directly to Karp, the Simon & Schuster chief executive. Fans flooded his inbox, including Bernstein, who, like others, received a personal response from Karp promising a speedy
    refund.

    By Sunday, Simon & Schuster had issued a public statement that offered few details but acknowledged that Dylan’s signature had been rendered “in a penned replica form.” The publisher said it would give buyers “an immediate refund.”
    The Jew must come out
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Obvious forgery reported ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^°

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  • From Willie@21:1/5 to K. Hematite on Wed Dec 7 12:23:33 2022
    On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:45:45 AM UTC-5, K. Hematite wrote:
    New York Times
    By Remy Tumin
    Nov. 22, 2022
    Henry Bernstein has seen Bob Dylan 27 times in concert and owns three items autographed by him: a copy of “The Freewheelin’ Bob Dylan” album, a photograph of the singer and a “John Wesley Harding” songbook. His favorite song is “Tangled Up
    in Blue.”

    So when Simon & Schuster, Dylan’s publisher, advertised limited-edition, hand-signed copies of the musician’s new collection of essays for $600 each, Bernstein was among 900 fans who went for one. Last week, he received his copy of “The
    Philosophy of Modern Song,” Dylan’s first collection of writings since he won the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2016, with a letter of authenticity signed by Jonathan Karp, the publisher’s chief executive.

    There was only one problem.

    Karp’s signature “looked more legit than Bob’s,” Bernstein said.

    Bernstein was one of hundreds of fans who sleuthed their way around social media, reaching the conclusion that the supposedly hand-signed books had not, in fact, been signed by Dylan.

    “I got the nostalgia bug,” said Bernstein, who already owned an unsigned copy of the book, as well as a Kindle version and an audio version. He added, “If he touches this book — he wrote it, signed it — it feels like the soul of Bob Dylan is
    with me.”

    Instead, many fans suggested that the “autographed” copies of the book had been signed by a machine.

    Justin Steffman, a professional authenticator who runs a Facebook group for collectors, said the autograph was most likely created by an autopen. The machine, which recreates signatures, is used by universities, celebrities and, most notably, the White
    House.

    Handwritten penmanship normally has a flow, Steffman said. But “with a pen machine, it goes from point to point,” he said, adding that the beginning and the end points of each stroke apply more pressure to the page. Dylan’s autograph in the new
    books also appears to have a “slight shakiness throughout the signature,” he said.

    “It does not look like something a person signed; it looks like a copy,” Steffman said.

    As orders began arriving last week, Dylan fans began comparing notes online, and it quickly became clear that something was amiss, Steffman said. Steffman collected images of at least 17 signatures that all looked as if they had been created by a
    machine. Items autographed by Dylan typically sell for $1,500 or $2,000, he added.

    “They started popping up, everyone received them the same day and it was instant — we all realized it was an autopen,” Steffman said. “More and more people shared their copies, and we all put it together.”

    Steffman said Simon & Schuster’s customer service had originally refused to issue refunds and had even denounced “online rumors” about the possibility that the signature was a fake. Twitter and Reddit users also chimed in; a chat board organized
    by a fan encouraged others who had purchased the book to write directly to Karp, the Simon & Schuster chief executive. Fans flooded his inbox, including Bernstein, who, like others, received a personal response from Karp promising a speedy refund.

    By Sunday, Simon & Schuster had issued a public statement that offered few details but acknowledged that Dylan’s signature had been rendered “in a penned replica form.” The publisher said it would give buyers “an immediate refund.”
    What a great Subject line for this.

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