I've always associated Mr. Tambourine Man with Bruce Langhorne. Heylin's "Double Life" has this, though, about Dylan's trip in 1964 with Victor Maymudes, Paul Clayton, and "scribe" Pete Karman that stopped in New Orlans for Mardis Gras:le bateau ivre - perhaps Arthur's most fabled illumination), a genesis he finally acknowledged in the 1985 Biograph notes."
"Sure enough, he rolled into his room in the wee small hours with the germ of an idea for a song about a musical muse, a Pied Piper figure wielding a tambourine and offering the singer a trip on his 'magic swirlin' ship' (Dylan's version of Rimbaud's
I went to my copy of Biograph, but it has no notes. Each of the three CDs has a two-page insert in the CD case that has the album cover on the first page, and the CD track listing on the last page, but the middle two pages are blank. Does any one ofyou have Biograph? If so, could you check and see if your copy has notes, not just blank pages? (And if your copy has notes, do they say anything about that line and Rimbaud?)
I'm curious about Heylin's claim. I'd thought about the "magic swirling ship" being a reference to Drunken Boat, but I hadn't considered that the snippet is "your magic swirling ship," meaning that the song is addressing Rimbaud, and that one couldargue that Rimbaud is the tambourine man (even if Langhorne did play on the song and was famous for playing a tambourine).
On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 3:09:16 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:le bateau ivre - perhaps Arthur's most fabled illumination), a genesis he finally acknowledged in the 1985 Biograph notes."
I've always associated Mr. Tambourine Man with Bruce Langhorne. Heylin's "Double Life" has this, though, about Dylan's trip in 1964 with Victor Maymudes, Paul Clayton, and "scribe" Pete Karman that stopped in New Orlans for Mardis Gras:
"Sure enough, he rolled into his room in the wee small hours with the germ of an idea for a song about a musical muse, a Pied Piper figure wielding a tambourine and offering the singer a trip on his 'magic swirlin' ship' (Dylan's version of Rimbaud's
you have Biograph? If so, could you check and see if your copy has notes, not just blank pages? (And if your copy has notes, do they say anything about that line and Rimbaud?)I went to my copy of Biograph, but it has no notes. Each of the three CDs has a two-page insert in the CD case that has the album cover on the first page, and the CD track listing on the last page, but the middle two pages are blank. Does any one of
argue that Rimbaud is the tambourine man (even if Langhorne did play on the song and was famous for playing a tambourine).I'm curious about Heylin's claim. I'd thought about the "magic swirling ship" being a reference to Drunken Boat, but I hadn't considered that the snippet is "your magic swirling ship," meaning that the song is addressing Rimbaud, and that one could
sorry, i copied my biograph, and pilfered the unused booklet, so no notes, but what is drunken boat? where is that from?Hi Rachel!
cuz our ole archnemesis aj was transcribing the lyrics to dignity and he wrote drunken boat, and i wrote him to say it was jerkin' boat (that's what i thought, at least).
On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 6:19:52 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:s le bateau ivre - perhaps Arthur's most fabled illumination), a genesis he finally acknowledged in the 1985 Biograph notes."
On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 3:09:16 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
I've always associated Mr. Tambourine Man with Bruce Langhorne. Heylin's "Double Life" has this, though, about Dylan's trip in 1964 with Victor Maymudes, Paul Clayton, and "scribe" Pete Karman that stopped in New Orlans for Mardis Gras:
"Sure enough, he rolled into his room in the wee small hours with the germ of an idea for a song about a musical muse, a Pied Piper figure wielding a tambourine and offering the singer a trip on his 'magic swirlin' ship' (Dylan's version of Rimbaud'
of you have Biograph? If so, could you check and see if your copy has notes, not just blank pages? (And if your copy has notes, do they say anything about that line and Rimbaud?)I went to my copy of Biograph, but it has no notes. Each of the three CDs has a two-page insert in the CD case that has the album cover on the first page, and the CD track listing on the last page, but the middle two pages are blank. Does any one
argue that Rimbaud is the tambourine man (even if Langhorne did play on the song and was famous for playing a tambourine).I'm curious about Heylin's claim. I'd thought about the "magic swirling ship" being a reference to Drunken Boat, but I hadn't considered that the snippet is "your magic swirling ship," meaning that the song is addressing Rimbaud, and that one could
sorry, i copied my biograph, and pilfered the unused booklet, so no notes, but what is drunken boat? where is that from?
cuz our ole archnemesis aj was transcribing the lyrics to dignity and he wrote drunken boat, and i wrote him to say it was jerkin' boat (that's what i thought, at least).Hi Rachel!
Drunken Boat has some lines that remind me of yours: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/55036/the-drunken-boat
On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 3:33:45 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:Rimbaud's le bateau ivre - perhaps Arthur's most fabled illumination), a genesis he finally acknowledged in the 1985 Biograph notes."
On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 6:19:52 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 3:09:16 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
I've always associated Mr. Tambourine Man with Bruce Langhorne. Heylin's "Double Life" has this, though, about Dylan's trip in 1964 with Victor Maymudes, Paul Clayton, and "scribe" Pete Karman that stopped in New Orlans for Mardis Gras:
"Sure enough, he rolled into his room in the wee small hours with the germ of an idea for a song about a musical muse, a Pied Piper figure wielding a tambourine and offering the singer a trip on his 'magic swirlin' ship' (Dylan's version of
of you have Biograph? If so, could you check and see if your copy has notes, not just blank pages? (And if your copy has notes, do they say anything about that line and Rimbaud?)I went to my copy of Biograph, but it has no notes. Each of the three CDs has a two-page insert in the CD case that has the album cover on the first page, and the CD track listing on the last page, but the middle two pages are blank. Does any one
could argue that Rimbaud is the tambourine man (even if Langhorne did play on the song and was famous for playing a tambourine).I'm curious about Heylin's claim. I'd thought about the "magic swirling ship" being a reference to Drunken Boat, but I hadn't considered that the snippet is "your magic swirling ship," meaning that the song is addressing Rimbaud, and that one
Yeah, I can't read the whole thing either. At least right now. C'est magnifique en français. I do think Rimbaud would have loved your poems.sorry, i copied my biograph, and pilfered the unused booklet, so no notes, but what is drunken boat? where is that from?
i can't read the whole thing....but to me, it seems reminiscent of will, but more fleshed out.cuz our ole archnemesis aj was transcribing the lyrics to dignity and he wrote drunken boat, and i wrote him to say it was jerkin' boat (that's what i thought, at least).Hi Rachel!
Drunken Boat has some lines that remind me of yours: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/55036/the-drunken-boat
On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 7:10:24 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:Rimbaud's le bateau ivre - perhaps Arthur's most fabled illumination), a genesis he finally acknowledged in the 1985 Biograph notes."
On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 3:33:45 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 6:19:52 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 3:09:16 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
I've always associated Mr. Tambourine Man with Bruce Langhorne. Heylin's "Double Life" has this, though, about Dylan's trip in 1964 with Victor Maymudes, Paul Clayton, and "scribe" Pete Karman that stopped in New Orlans for Mardis Gras:
"Sure enough, he rolled into his room in the wee small hours with the germ of an idea for a song about a musical muse, a Pied Piper figure wielding a tambourine and offering the singer a trip on his 'magic swirlin' ship' (Dylan's version of
one of you have Biograph? If so, could you check and see if your copy has notes, not just blank pages? (And if your copy has notes, do they say anything about that line and Rimbaud?)I went to my copy of Biograph, but it has no notes. Each of the three CDs has a two-page insert in the CD case that has the album cover on the first page, and the CD track listing on the last page, but the middle two pages are blank. Does any
could argue that Rimbaud is the tambourine man (even if Langhorne did play on the song and was famous for playing a tambourine).I'm curious about Heylin's claim. I'd thought about the "magic swirling ship" being a reference to Drunken Boat, but I hadn't considered that the snippet is "your magic swirling ship," meaning that the song is addressing Rimbaud, and that one
sorry, i copied my biograph, and pilfered the unused booklet, so no notes, but what is drunken boat? where is that from?
Yeah, I can't read the whole thing either. At least right now. C'est magnifique en français. I do think Rimbaud would have loved your poems.i can't read the whole thing....but to me, it seems reminiscent of will, but more fleshed out.cuz our ole archnemesis aj was transcribing the lyrics to dignity and he wrote drunken boat, and i wrote him to say it was jerkin' boat (that's what i thought, at least).Hi Rachel!
Drunken Boat has some lines that remind me of yours: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/55036/the-drunken-boat
On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 4:58:54 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:Rimbaud's le bateau ivre - perhaps Arthur's most fabled illumination), a genesis he finally acknowledged in the 1985 Biograph notes."
On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 7:10:24 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 3:33:45 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 6:19:52 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 3:09:16 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
I've always associated Mr. Tambourine Man with Bruce Langhorne. Heylin's "Double Life" has this, though, about Dylan's trip in 1964 with Victor Maymudes, Paul Clayton, and "scribe" Pete Karman that stopped in New Orlans for Mardis Gras:
"Sure enough, he rolled into his room in the wee small hours with the germ of an idea for a song about a musical muse, a Pied Piper figure wielding a tambourine and offering the singer a trip on his 'magic swirlin' ship' (Dylan's version of
one of you have Biograph? If so, could you check and see if your copy has notes, not just blank pages? (And if your copy has notes, do they say anything about that line and Rimbaud?)I went to my copy of Biograph, but it has no notes. Each of the three CDs has a two-page insert in the CD case that has the album cover on the first page, and the CD track listing on the last page, but the middle two pages are blank. Does any
could argue that Rimbaud is the tambourine man (even if Langhorne did play on the song and was famous for playing a tambourine).I'm curious about Heylin's claim. I'd thought about the "magic swirling ship" being a reference to Drunken Boat, but I hadn't considered that the snippet is "your magic swirling ship," meaning that the song is addressing Rimbaud, and that one
sorry, i copied my biograph, and pilfered the unused booklet, so no notes, but what is drunken boat? where is that from?
Would this be before or after he had achieved a complete derangement of the senses?Yeah, I can't read the whole thing either. At least right now. C'est magnifique en français. I do think Rimbaud would have loved your poems.i can't read the whole thing....but to me, it seems reminiscent of will, but more fleshed out.cuz our ole archnemesis aj was transcribing the lyrics to dignity and he wrote drunken boat, and i wrote him to say it was jerkin' boat (that's what i thought, at least).Hi Rachel!
Drunken Boat has some lines that remind me of yours: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/55036/the-drunken-boat
On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 4:58:54 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:Rimbaud's le bateau ivre - perhaps Arthur's most fabled illumination), a genesis he finally acknowledged in the 1985 Biograph notes."
On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 7:10:24 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 3:33:45 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 6:19:52 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 3:09:16 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
I've always associated Mr. Tambourine Man with Bruce Langhorne. Heylin's "Double Life" has this, though, about Dylan's trip in 1964 with Victor Maymudes, Paul Clayton, and "scribe" Pete Karman that stopped in New Orlans for Mardis Gras:
"Sure enough, he rolled into his room in the wee small hours with the germ of an idea for a song about a musical muse, a Pied Piper figure wielding a tambourine and offering the singer a trip on his 'magic swirlin' ship' (Dylan's version of
one of you have Biograph? If so, could you check and see if your copy has notes, not just blank pages? (And if your copy has notes, do they say anything about that line and Rimbaud?)I went to my copy of Biograph, but it has no notes. Each of the three CDs has a two-page insert in the CD case that has the album cover on the first page, and the CD track listing on the last page, but the middle two pages are blank. Does any
could argue that Rimbaud is the tambourine man (even if Langhorne did play on the song and was famous for playing a tambourine).I'm curious about Heylin's claim. I'd thought about the "magic swirling ship" being a reference to Drunken Boat, but I hadn't considered that the snippet is "your magic swirling ship," meaning that the song is addressing Rimbaud, and that one
sorry, i copied my biograph, and pilfered the unused booklet, so no notes, but what is drunken boat? where is that from?
Would this be before or after he had achieved a complete derangement of the senses?Yeah, I can't read the whole thing either. At least right now. C'est magnifique en français. I do think Rimbaud would have loved your poems.i can't read the whole thing....but to me, it seems reminiscent of will, but more fleshed out.cuz our ole archnemesis aj was transcribing the lyrics to dignity and he wrote drunken boat, and i wrote him to say it was jerkin' boat (that's what i thought, at least).Hi Rachel!
Drunken Boat has some lines that remind me of yours: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/55036/the-drunken-boat
I've always associated Mr. Tambourine Man with Bruce Langhorne. Heylin's "Double Life" has this, though, about Dylan's trip in 1964 with Victor Maymudes, Paul Clayton, and "scribe" Pete Karman that stopped in New Orlans for Mardis Gras:le bateau ivre - perhaps Arthur's most fabled illumination), a genesis he finally acknowledged in the 1985 Biograph notes."
"Sure enough, he rolled into his room in the wee small hours with the germ of an idea for a song about a musical muse, a Pied Piper figure wielding a tambourine and offering the singer a trip on his 'magic swirlin' ship' (Dylan's version of Rimbaud's
I went to my copy of Biograph, but it has no notes. Each of the three CDs has a two-page insert in the CD case that has the album cover on the first page, and the CD track listing on the last page, but the middle two pages are blank. Does any one ofyou have Biograph? If so, could you check and see if your copy has notes, not just blank pages? (And if your copy has notes, do they say anything about that line and Rimbaud?)
I'm curious about Heylin's claim. I'd thought about the "magic swirling ship" being a reference to Drunken Boat, but I hadn't considered that the snippet is "your magic swirling ship," meaning that the song is addressing Rimbaud, and that one couldargue that Rimbaud is the tambourine man (even if Langhorne did play on the song and was famous for playing a tambourine).
I've always associated Mr. Tambourine Man with Bruce Langhorne. Heylin's "Double Life" has this, though, about Dylan's trip in 1964 with Victor Maymudes, Paul Clayton, and "scribe" Pete Karman that stopped in New Orlans for Mardis Gras:le bateau ivre - perhaps Arthur's most fabled illumination), a genesis he finally acknowledged in the 1985 Biograph notes."
"Sure enough, he rolled into his room in the wee small hours with the germ of an idea for a song about a musical muse, a Pied Piper figure wielding a tambourine and offering the singer a trip on his 'magic swirlin' ship' (Dylan's version of Rimbaud's
I went to my copy of Biograph, but it has no notes. Each of the three CDs has a two-page insert in the CD case that has the album cover on the first page, and the CD track listing on the last page, but the middle two pages are blank. Does any one ofyou have Biograph? If so, could you check and see if your copy has notes, not just blank pages? (And if your copy has notes, do they say anything about that line and Rimbaud?)
I'm curious about Heylin's claim. I'd thought about the "magic swirling ship" being a reference to Drunken Boat, but I hadn't considered that the snippet is "your magic swirling ship," meaning that the song is addressing Rimbaud, and that one couldargue that Rimbaud is the tambourine man (even if Langhorne did play on the song and was famous for playing a tambourine).
On Wednesday, 12 October 2022 at 18:09:16 UTC-4, Willie wrote:le bateau ivre - perhaps Arthur's most fabled illumination), a genesis he finally acknowledged in the 1985 Biograph notes."
I've always associated Mr. Tambourine Man with Bruce Langhorne. Heylin's "Double Life" has this, though, about Dylan's trip in 1964 with Victor Maymudes, Paul Clayton, and "scribe" Pete Karman that stopped in New Orlans for Mardis Gras:
"Sure enough, he rolled into his room in the wee small hours with the germ of an idea for a song about a musical muse, a Pied Piper figure wielding a tambourine and offering the singer a trip on his 'magic swirlin' ship' (Dylan's version of Rimbaud's
you have Biograph? If so, could you check and see if your copy has notes, not just blank pages? (And if your copy has notes, do they say anything about that line and Rimbaud?)I went to my copy of Biograph, but it has no notes. Each of the three CDs has a two-page insert in the CD case that has the album cover on the first page, and the CD track listing on the last page, but the middle two pages are blank. Does any one of
argue that Rimbaud is the tambourine man (even if Langhorne did play on the song and was famous for playing a tambourine).I'm curious about Heylin's claim. I'd thought about the "magic swirling ship" being a reference to Drunken Boat, but I hadn't considered that the snippet is "your magic swirling ship," meaning that the song is addressing Rimbaud, and that one could
I think one has to take Heylin's parenthetical reference as just his personal thought about where Dylan's "magic swirlin' ship" might have come from--not really a claim that Dylan himself necessarily made such a connection. I think all Heylin meant tosay is that in his Biograph interview with Cameron Crowe, Dylan confirmed that the genesis of the song involved "a Pied Piper figure wielding a tambourine" (i.e., Bruce Langhorne)."
Crowe's interview with Dylan was actually turned into a 36-page booklet, with dimensions that allowed it to nestle comfortably in a vinyl box set. That's the version I bought in 1985. The CD version of Biograph that I also have has the identical box,presumably so that the original booklet could still be included with the CDs. In any event, that's not where Dylan's comment about "Mr. Tambourine Man" appears. Rather, in the vinyl version, each of the five vinyl records constituting the set has an
“‘Mr. Tambourine Man,’ I think, was inspired by Bruce Langhorne. Bruce was playing guitar with me on a bunch of the early records. On one session, (producer) Tom Wilson had asked him to play tambourine. And he had this gigantic tambourine. It waslike, really big. It was as big as a wagon wheel. He was playing, and this vision of him playing this tambourine just stuck in my mind. He was one of those characters…he was like that. I don’t know if I’ve ever told him that. I haven’t seen him
So all that Dylan confirmed was that he thinks that Langhore inspired the song. Nothing on Rimbaud--except in Heylin's parenthetical interpolation. I think this might be the kind of thing that for many years used to generate a lot of Heylin-hatredwithin Dylan fandom. And probably still does.
https://newrepublic.com/article/162533/whats-wrong-bob-dylans-biographers-clinton-heylin-review
On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 12:28:13 PM UTC-4, K. Hematite wrote:s le bateau ivre - perhaps Arthur's most fabled illumination), a genesis he finally acknowledged in the 1985 Biograph notes."
On Wednesday, 12 October 2022 at 18:09:16 UTC-4, Willie wrote:
I've always associated Mr. Tambourine Man with Bruce Langhorne. Heylin's "Double Life" has this, though, about Dylan's trip in 1964 with Victor Maymudes, Paul Clayton, and "scribe" Pete Karman that stopped in New Orlans for Mardis Gras:
"Sure enough, he rolled into his room in the wee small hours with the germ of an idea for a song about a musical muse, a Pied Piper figure wielding a tambourine and offering the singer a trip on his 'magic swirlin' ship' (Dylan's version of Rimbaud'
of you have Biograph? If so, could you check and see if your copy has notes, not just blank pages? (And if your copy has notes, do they say anything about that line and Rimbaud?)I went to my copy of Biograph, but it has no notes. Each of the three CDs has a two-page insert in the CD case that has the album cover on the first page, and the CD track listing on the last page, but the middle two pages are blank. Does any one
argue that Rimbaud is the tambourine man (even if Langhorne did play on the song and was famous for playing a tambourine).I'm curious about Heylin's claim. I'd thought about the "magic swirling ship" being a reference to Drunken Boat, but I hadn't considered that the snippet is "your magic swirling ship," meaning that the song is addressing Rimbaud, and that one could
to say is that in his Biograph interview with Cameron Crowe, Dylan confirmed that the genesis of the song involved "a Pied Piper figure wielding a tambourine" (i.e., Bruce Langhorne)."I think one has to take Heylin's parenthetical reference as just his personal thought about where Dylan's "magic swirlin' ship" might have come from--not really a claim that Dylan himself necessarily made such a connection. I think all Heylin meant
presumably so that the original booklet could still be included with the CDs. In any event, that's not where Dylan's comment about "Mr. Tambourine Man" appears. Rather, in the vinyl version, each of the five vinyl records constituting the set has anCrowe's interview with Dylan was actually turned into a 36-page booklet, with dimensions that allowed it to nestle comfortably in a vinyl box set. That's the version I bought in 1985. The CD version of Biograph that I also have has the identical box,
was like, really big. It was as big as a wagon wheel. He was playing, and this vision of him playing this tambourine just stuck in my mind. He was one of those characters…he was like that. I don’t know if I’ve ever told him that. I haven’t seen“‘Mr. Tambourine Man,’ I think, was inspired by Bruce Langhorne. Bruce was playing guitar with me on a bunch of the early records. On one session, (producer) Tom Wilson had asked him to play tambourine. And he had this gigantic tambourine. It
within Dylan fandom. And probably still does.So all that Dylan confirmed was that he thinks that Langhore inspired the song. Nothing on Rimbaud--except in Heylin's parenthetical interpolation. I think this might be the kind of thing that for many years used to generate a lot of Heylin-hatred
writes "Certainly, Heylin sets out to elbow past all other comers, making bullying attempts to clear the crowded field of Dylan researchers, biographers, and armchair obsessives." There are many places where he patronizingly points out someone'shttps://newrepublic.com/article/162533/whats-wrong-bob-dylans-biographers-clinton-heylin-reviewThank you, K (and Will). I must have the Biograph box itself somewhere (I extracted the CD cases and put them in with the other Dylan CDs on a shelf). But I don't even need to find it, because you quoted the passage I would have sought.
What an excellent review of "Double Life." Is it the same one you sent when I expressed being put off by the book after I got it in January? Ah, I checked and see it is (you also sent a more complimentary review). I think Semley is spot on when he
But I'm really enjoying the book. The Beatles have just appeared (Bob missed their Ed Sullivan appearance, seen by 78 million, because the four travellers were in a fleabag motel with no TV). I liked this passage:album with him to Paris, having 'borrowed' it from his brother, Mike McGear [WW: I'd never heard of Paul's brother!], who who had borrowed it from a girl he had been (vainly) trying to impress, someone hip enough to own an import copy. McGear's first
"As with most musical trends, McCartney had the jump on Lennon, who gamely admitted, 'Paul had heard of him [WW: Dylan] before, but until we played Freewheelin' his name did not really mean anything to the rest of us.' Macca could well have brought the
I wonder which Freewheelin' song had the dulcet tones. Girl from the North Country? bob Dylan's Dream? Corinna, Corinna? Don't Think Twice?
I'm on the rollin' river in a jerkin' boat
On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 2:18:03 PM UTC-7, President_dudley wrote:
I'm on the rollin' river in a jerkin' boati *thought* it was on *a* rollin' river...?
On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 5:39:46 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 2:18:03 PM UTC-7, President_dudley wrote:tbh i just copypasted from a generic lyric site
I'm on the rollin' river in a jerkin' boati *thought* it was on *a* rollin' river...?
here's what bob's site has:
I’m on the rollin’ river in a jerkin’ boat
not to say to say that one or more of the recorded versions doesn't say "a"
i just thought the phrase was apt regarding rimbaud
take care, but take it
On Wednesday, 12 October 2022 at 18:09:16 UTC-4, Willie wrote:le bateau ivre - perhaps Arthur's most fabled illumination), a genesis he finally acknowledged in the 1985 Biograph notes."
I've always associated Mr. Tambourine Man with Bruce Langhorne. Heylin's "Double Life" has this, though, about Dylan's trip in 1964 with Victor Maymudes, Paul Clayton, and "scribe" Pete Karman that stopped in New Orlans for Mardis Gras:
"Sure enough, he rolled into his room in the wee small hours with the germ of an idea for a song about a musical muse, a Pied Piper figure wielding a tambourine and offering the singer a trip on his 'magic swirlin' ship' (Dylan's version of Rimbaud's
you have Biograph? If so, could you check and see if your copy has notes, not just blank pages? (And if your copy has notes, do they say anything about that line and Rimbaud?)I went to my copy of Biograph, but it has no notes. Each of the three CDs has a two-page insert in the CD case that has the album cover on the first page, and the CD track listing on the last page, but the middle two pages are blank. Does any one of
argue that Rimbaud is the tambourine man (even if Langhorne did play on the song and was famous for playing a tambourine).I'm curious about Heylin's claim. I'd thought about the "magic swirling ship" being a reference to Drunken Boat, but I hadn't considered that the snippet is "your magic swirling ship," meaning that the song is addressing Rimbaud, and that one could
I think one has to take Heylin's parenthetical reference as just his personal thought about where Dylan's "magic swirlin' ship" might have come from--not really a claim that Dylan himself necessarily made such a connection. I think all Heylin meant tosay is that in his Biograph interview with Cameron Crowe, Dylan confirmed that the genesis of the song involved "a Pied Piper figure wielding a tambourine" (i.e., Bruce Langhorne)."
Crowe's interview with Dylan was actually turned into a 36-page booklet, with dimensions that allowed it to nestle comfortably in a vinyl box set. That's the version I bought in 1985. The CD version of Biograph that I also have has the identical box,presumably so that the original booklet could still be included with the CDs. In any event, that's not where Dylan's comment about "Mr. Tambourine Man" appears. Rather, in the vinyl version, each of the five vinyl records constituting the set has an
“‘Mr. Tambourine Man,’ I think, was inspired by Bruce Langhorne. Bruce was playing guitar with me on a bunch of the early records. On one session, (producer) Tom Wilson had asked him to play tambourine. And he had this gigantic tambourine. It waslike, really big. It was as big as a wagon wheel. He was playing, and this vision of him playing this tambourine just stuck in my mind. He was one of those characters…he was like that. I don’t know if I’ve ever told him that. I haven’t seen him
So all that Dylan confirmed was that he thinks that Langhore inspired the song. Nothing on Rimbaud--except in Heylin's parenthetical interpolation. I think this might be the kind of thing that for many years used to generate a lot of Heylin-hatredwithin Dylan fandom. And probably still does.
https://newrepublic.com/article/162533/whats-wrong-bob-dylans-biographers-clinton-heylin-review
On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 3:37:49 PM UTC-7, President_dudley wrote:
On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 5:39:46 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 2:18:03 PM UTC-7, President_dudley wrote:tbh i just copypasted from a generic lyric site
I'm on the rollin' river in a jerkin' boati *thought* it was on *a* rollin' river...?
here's what bob's site has:
I’m on the rollin’ river in a jerkin’ boat
not to say to say that one or more of the recorded versions doesn't say "a"
i just thought the phrase was apt regarding rimbaud
take care, but take italways nice to see you, doodles! so glad you are still around, and with us (tinu)
takin it easy, and takin it,
rachel
But I'm really enjoying the book. The Beatles have just appeared (Bob missed their Ed Sullivan appearance, seen by 78 million, because the four travellers were in a fleabag motel with no TV). I liked this passage:album with him to Paris, having 'borrowed' it from his brother, Mike McGear [WW: I'd never heard of Paul's brother!], who who had borrowed it from a girl he had been (vainly) trying to impress, someone hip enough to own an import copy. McGear's first
"As with most musical trends, McCartney had the jump on Lennon, who gamely admitted, 'Paul had heard of him [WW: Dylan] before, but until we played Freewheelin' his name did not really mean anything to the rest of us.' Macca could well have brought the
I wonder which Freewheelin' song had the dulcet tones. Girl from the North Country? bob Dylan's Dream? Corinna, Corinna? Don't Think Twice?
But I'm really enjoying the book. The Beatles have just appeared (Bob missed their Ed Sullivan appearance, seen by 78 million, because the four travellers were in a fleabag motel with no TV). I liked this passage:album with him to Paris, having 'borrowed' it from his brother, Mike McGear [WW: I'd never heard of Paul's brother!], who who had borrowed it from a girl he had been (vainly) trying to impress, someone hip enough to own an import copy. McGear's first
"As with most musical trends, McCartney had the jump on Lennon, who gamely admitted, 'Paul had heard of him [WW: Dylan] before, but until we played Freewheelin' his name did not really mean anything to the rest of us.' Macca could well have brought the
I wonder which Freewheelin' song had the dulcet tones. Girl from the North Country? bob Dylan's Dream? Corinna, Corinna? Don't Think Twice?
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