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Bob Neuwirth, Colorful Figure in Dylan’s Circle, Dies at 82
He was a recording artist and songwriter himself, but he also played pivotal roles in the careers of Bob Dylan and Janis Joplin.

Neil Genzlinger
By Neil Genzlinger
Published May 19, 2022
Updated May 20, 2022, 12:02 a.m. ET

Bob Neuwirth, a painter, recording artist and songwriter who also had an impact as a member of Bob Dylan’s inner circle and as a conduit for two of Janis Joplin’s best-known songs, died on Wednesday in Santa Monica, Calif. He was 82.

His partner, Paula Batson, said the cause was heart failure.

Mr. Neuwirth had an eclectic string of albums, including his debut, simply titled “Bob Neuwirth,” in 1974, as well as a 1994 collaboration with John Cale called “Last Day on Earth” and a 2000 collaboration with the Cuban composer and pianist José
María Vitier, “Havana Midnight.” But he was perhaps better known for the roles he played in the careers of others, beginning with Mr. Dylan.

Mr. Neuwirth said he first encountered Mr. Dylan at the Indian Neck Folk Festival in Connecticut in 1961. Mr. Dylan was still largely unknown then, but, Mr. Neuwirth said years later, he caught his eye “because he was the only other guy with a
harmonica holder around his neck.”

The two hit it off, and Mr. Neuwirth became a central figure in the circle that coalesced around Mr. Dylan as his fame grew. When Mr. Dylan held court at the Kettle of Fish bar in Greenwich Village in the early 1960s, Mr. Neuwirth was there. When Mr.
Dylan toured England in 1965, Mr. Neuwirth went along. A decade later, when Mr. Dylan embarked on his Rolling Thunder Revue tour, Mr. Neuwirth was instrumental in putting the band together.

Mr. Dylan’s contemporaries and biographers have described Mr. Neuwirth’s role in various ways.

“Neuwirth was the eye of the storm, the center, the catalyst, the instigator,” Eric Von Schmidt, another folk singer active at the time, once said. “Wherever something important was happening, he was there, or he was on his way to it, or rumored to
have been nearby enough to have had an effect on whatever it was that was in the works.”

It has often been suggested that as Mr. Dylan assembled his distinctive persona while climbing to international fame, he borrowed some of it, including a certain attitude and a caustic streak, from Mr. Neuwirth.

“The whole hipster shuck and jive — that was pure Neuwirth,” Bob Spitz wrote in “Dylan: A Biography” (1989). “So were the deadly put-downs, the wipeout grins and innuendos. Neuwirth had mastered those little twists long before Bob Dylan made
them famous and conveyed them to his best friend with altruistic grace.”

Mr. Neuwirth, Mr. Spitz suggested, could have ridden those same qualities to Dylanesque fame.

“Bobby Neuwirth was the Bob Most Likely to Succeed,” he wrote, “a wellspring of enormous potential. He possessed all the elements, except for one — nerve.”

Mr. Dylan, in his book “Chronicles: Volume One” (2004), had his own description of Mr. Neuwirth:

“Like Kerouac had immortalized Neal Cassady in ‘On the Road,’ somebody should have immortalized Neuwirth. He was that kind of character. He could talk to anybody until they felt like all their intelligence was gone. With his tongue, he ripped and
slashed and could make anybody uneasy, also could talk his way out of anything. Nobody knew what to make of him.”

Ms. Joplin, too, benefited from Mr. Neuwirth’s influence. Holly George-Warren, whose books include “Janis: Her Life and Music” (2019), said that Mr. Neuwirth and Ms. Joplin met in 1963 and became fast friends.

“In 1969, he taught her Kris Kristofferson’s ‘Me and Bobby McGee’ after he heard Gordon Lightfoot play the then-unknown song at manager Albert Grossman’s office,” Ms. George-Warren said by email. “He quickly learned it and took it to Janis
at the Chelsea Hotel.”

Her recording of the song hit No. 1 in 1971, but Ms. Joplin was not around to enjoy the success; she died of a drug overdose the previous year.

Mr. Neuwirth was also involved in “Mercedes Benz,” another well-known Joplin song that, like “Bobby McGee,” appeared on her 1971 album, “Pearl.” He was at a bar with her before a show she was doing at the Capitol Theater in Port Chester, N.Y.,
in August 1970 when Ms. Joplin began riffing on a ditty that the poet Michael McClure would sing at gatherings with friends. Mr. Neuwirth began writing the lyrics the two of them came up with on a napkin.

She sang the song at the show that night, and she later recorded it a cappella. She, Mr. McClure and Mr. Neuwirth are jointly credited as the writers of the song, which on the album is less than two minutes long.

Ms. George-Warren said that this anecdote was revelatory: Mr. Neuwirth nudged along the careers of artists he admired, including Patti Smith, in whatever ways came to mind.

“Though Bob was renowned for his acerbic wit — from his days as aide-de-camp to Dylan and Janis — when I met him 25 years ago, he epitomized kindness, mentorship and curiosity,” she said. “That is the unsung story of Bob Neuwirth.”

Robert John Neuwirth was born on June 20, 1939, in Akron, Ohio. His father, also named Robert, was an engineer, and his mother, Clara Irene (Fischer) Neuwirth, was a design engineer.

He studied art at the School of the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston and dabbled in painting over the decades; in 2011 the Track 16 gallery in Santa Monica presented “Overs & Unders: Paintings by Bob Neuwirth, 1964-2009.”

After two years at art school, he spent time in Paris before returning to the Boston area, where he began performing in coffee houses, singing and playing banjo and guitar.

Mr. Neuwirth appeared in D.A. Pennebaker’s 1967 Dylan documentary, “Dont Look Back,” as well as in “Eat the Document,” a 1972 documentary of a later tour that was shot by Mr. Pennebaker and later edited by Mr. Dylan, who is credited as the
director. He was seen in Mr. Dylan’s film “Renaldo & Clara” (1978), most of which was filmed during the Rolling Thunder tour. And he appeared in “Rolling Thunder Revue: A Bob Dylan Story,” the 2019 Martin Scorsese film.

Mr. Neuwirth was a producer of “Down From the Mountain” (2000), a documentary, directed in part by Mr. Pennebaker, about a concert featuring the musical artists heard in the Coen Brothers’ movie “O Brother, Where Art Thou?”

“It’s all about the same to me,” he said, “whether it’s writing a song or making a painting or doing a film. It’s all just storytelling.”

He lived in Santa Monica. Ms. Batson is his only immediate survivor.

Mr. Neuwirth could be self-deprecating about his own musical efforts. He called his collaboration with Mr. Vitier, the Cuban pianist, “Cubilly music.” But his music was often serious. The Cale collaboration was a sort of song cycle that, as Jon
Pareles wrote in The New York Times when the two performed selections in concert in 1990, “added up to a shrug of the shoulders in the face of impending doom.”

“Instead of breast-beating or simply wisecracking,” Mr. Pareles wrote of the work, “it found an emotional territory somewhere between fatalism and denial — still uneasy but not quite resigned.”

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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/19/arts/music/bob-neuwirth-dead.html?smid=url-share

Bob Neuwirth, Colorful Figure in Dylan’s Circle, Dies at 82
He was a recording artist and songwriter himself, but he also played pivotal roles in the careers of Bob Dylan and Janis Joplin.

Neil Genzlinger
By Neil Genzlinger
Published May 19, 2022
Updated May 20, 2022, 12:02 a.m. ET

Bob Neuwirth, a painter, recording artist and songwriter who also had an impact as a member of Bob Dylan’s inner circle and as a conduit for two of Janis Joplin’s best-known songs, died on Wednesday in Santa Monica, Calif. He was 82.

His partner, Paula Batson, said the cause was heart failure.

Mr. Neuwirth had an eclectic string of albums, including his debut, simply titled “Bob Neuwirth,” in 1974, as well as a 1994 collaboration with John Cale called “Last Day on Earth” and a 2000 collaboration with the Cuban composer and pianist

José María Vitier, “Havana Midnight.” But he was perhaps better known for the roles he played in the careers of others, beginning with Mr. Dylan.

Mr. Neuwirth said he first encountered Mr. Dylan at the Indian Neck Folk Festival in Connecticut in 1961. Mr. Dylan was still largely unknown then, but, Mr. Neuwirth said years later, he caught his eye “because he was the only other guy with a

harmonica holder around his neck.”

The two hit it off, and Mr. Neuwirth became a central figure in the circle that coalesced around Mr. Dylan as his fame grew. When Mr. Dylan held court at the Kettle of Fish bar in Greenwich Village in the early 1960s, Mr. Neuwirth was there. When Mr.

Dylan toured England in 1965, Mr. Neuwirth went along. A decade later, when Mr. Dylan embarked on his Rolling Thunder Revue tour, Mr. Neuwirth was instrumental in putting the band together.

Mr. Dylan’s contemporaries and biographers have described Mr. Neuwirth’s role in various ways.

“Neuwirth was the eye of the storm, the center, the catalyst, the instigator,” Eric Von Schmidt, another folk singer active at the time, once said. “Wherever something important was happening, he was there, or he was on his way to it, or rumored

to have been nearby enough to have had an effect on whatever it was that was in the works.”

It has often been suggested that as Mr. Dylan assembled his distinctive persona while climbing to international fame, he borrowed some of it, including a certain attitude and a caustic streak, from Mr. Neuwirth.

“The whole hipster shuck and jive — that was pure Neuwirth,” Bob Spitz wrote in “Dylan: A Biography” (1989). “So were the deadly put-downs, the wipeout grins and innuendos. Neuwirth had mastered those little twists long before Bob Dylan

made them famous and conveyed them to his best friend with altruistic grace.”

Mr. Neuwirth, Mr. Spitz suggested, could have ridden those same qualities to Dylanesque fame.

“Bobby Neuwirth was the Bob Most Likely to Succeed,” he wrote, “a wellspring of enormous potential. He possessed all the elements, except for one — nerve.”

Mr. Dylan, in his book “Chronicles: Volume One” (2004), had his own description of Mr. Neuwirth:

“Like Kerouac had immortalized Neal Cassady in ‘On the Road,’ somebody should have immortalized Neuwirth. He was that kind of character. He could talk to anybody until they felt like all their intelligence was gone. With his tongue, he ripped and

slashed and could make anybody uneasy, also could talk his way out of anything. Nobody knew what to make of him.”

Ms. Joplin, too, benefited from Mr. Neuwirth’s influence. Holly George-Warren, whose books include “Janis: Her Life and Music” (2019), said that Mr. Neuwirth and Ms. Joplin met in 1963 and became fast friends.

“In 1969, he taught her Kris Kristofferson’s ‘Me and Bobby McGee’ after he heard Gordon Lightfoot play the then-unknown song at manager Albert Grossman’s office,” Ms. George-Warren said by email. “He quickly learned it and took it to

Janis at the Chelsea Hotel.”

Her recording of the song hit No. 1 in 1971, but Ms. Joplin was not around to enjoy the success; she died of a drug overdose the previous year.

Mr. Neuwirth was also involved in “Mercedes Benz,” another well-known Joplin song that, like “Bobby McGee,” appeared on her 1971 album, “Pearl.” He was at a bar with her before a show she was doing at the Capitol Theater in Port Chester, N.

Y., in August 1970 when Ms. Joplin began riffing on a ditty that the poet Michael McClure would sing at gatherings with friends. Mr. Neuwirth began writing the lyrics the two of them came up with on a napkin.

She sang the song at the show that night, and she later recorded it a cappella. She, Mr. McClure and Mr. Neuwirth are jointly credited as the writers of the song, which on the album is less than two minutes long.

Ms. George-Warren said that this anecdote was revelatory: Mr. Neuwirth nudged along the careers of artists he admired, including Patti Smith, in whatever ways came to mind.

“Though Bob was renowned for his acerbic wit — from his days as aide-de-camp to Dylan and Janis — when I met him 25 years ago, he epitomized kindness, mentorship and curiosity,” she said. “That is the unsung story of Bob Neuwirth.”

Robert John Neuwirth was born on June 20, 1939, in Akron, Ohio. His father, also named Robert, was an engineer, and his mother, Clara Irene (Fischer) Neuwirth, was a design engineer.

He studied art at the School of the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston and dabbled in painting over the decades; in 2011 the Track 16 gallery in Santa Monica presented “Overs & Unders: Paintings by Bob Neuwirth, 1964-2009.”

After two years at art school, he spent time in Paris before returning to the Boston area, where he began performing in coffee houses, singing and playing banjo and guitar.

Mr. Neuwirth appeared in D.A. Pennebaker’s 1967 Dylan documentary, “Dont Look Back,” as well as in “Eat the Document,” a 1972 documentary of a later tour that was shot by Mr. Pennebaker and later edited by Mr. Dylan, who is credited as the

director. He was seen in Mr. Dylan’s film “Renaldo & Clara” (1978), most of which was filmed during the Rolling Thunder tour. And he appeared in “Rolling Thunder Revue: A Bob Dylan Story,” the 2019 Martin Scorsese film.

Mr. Neuwirth was a producer of “Down From the Mountain” (2000), a documentary, directed in part by Mr. Pennebaker, about a concert featuring the musical artists heard in the Coen Brothers’ movie “O Brother, Where Art Thou?”

“It’s all about the same to me,” he said, “whether it’s writing a song or making a painting or doing a film. It’s all just storytelling.”

He lived in Santa Monica. Ms. Batson is his only immediate survivor.

Mr. Neuwirth could be self-deprecating about his own musical efforts. He called his collaboration with Mr. Vitier, the Cuban pianist, “Cubilly music.” But his music was often serious. The Cale collaboration was a sort of song cycle that, as Jon

Pareles wrote in The New York Times when the two performed selections in concert in 1990, “added up to a shrug of the shoulders in the face of impending doom.”

“Instead of breast-beating or simply wisecracking,” Mr. Pareles wrote of the work, “it found an emotional territory somewhere between fatalism and denial — still uneasy but not quite resigned.”

I like a LOT of Bob N.

So sad the folk hero has left us...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0l6WvSs00o

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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/19/arts/music/bob-neuwirth-dead.html?smid=url-share

Bob Neuwirth, Colorful Figure in Dylan’s Circle, Dies at 82
He was a recording artist and songwriter himself, but he also played pivotal roles in the careers of Bob Dylan and Janis Joplin.

Neil Genzlinger
By Neil Genzlinger
Published May 19, 2022
Updated May 20, 2022, 12:02 a.m. ET

Bob Neuwirth, a painter, recording artist and songwriter who also had an impact as a member of Bob Dylan’s inner circle and as a conduit for two of Janis Joplin’s best-known songs, died on Wednesday in Santa Monica, Calif. He was 82.

His partner, Paula Batson, said the cause was heart failure.

Mr. Neuwirth had an eclectic string of albums, including his debut, simply titled “Bob Neuwirth,” in 1974, as well as a 1994 collaboration with John Cale called “Last Day on Earth” and a 2000 collaboration with the Cuban composer and pianist

José María Vitier, “Havana Midnight.” But he was perhaps better known for the roles he played in the careers of others, beginning with Mr. Dylan.

Mr. Neuwirth said he first encountered Mr. Dylan at the Indian Neck Folk Festival in Connecticut in 1961. Mr. Dylan was still largely unknown then, but, Mr. Neuwirth said years later, he caught his eye “because he was the only other guy with a

harmonica holder around his neck.”

The two hit it off, and Mr. Neuwirth became a central figure in the circle that coalesced around Mr. Dylan as his fame grew. When Mr. Dylan held court at the Kettle of Fish bar in Greenwich Village in the early 1960s, Mr. Neuwirth was there. When Mr.

Dylan toured England in 1965, Mr. Neuwirth went along. A decade later, when Mr. Dylan embarked on his Rolling Thunder Revue tour, Mr. Neuwirth was instrumental in putting the band together.

Mr. Dylan’s contemporaries and biographers have described Mr. Neuwirth’s role in various ways.

“Neuwirth was the eye of the storm, the center, the catalyst, the instigator,” Eric Von Schmidt, another folk singer active at the time, once said. “Wherever something important was happening, he was there, or he was on his way to it, or

rumored to have been nearby enough to have had an effect on whatever it was that was in the works.”

It has often been suggested that as Mr. Dylan assembled his distinctive persona while climbing to international fame, he borrowed some of it, including a certain attitude and a caustic streak, from Mr. Neuwirth.

“The whole hipster shuck and jive — that was pure Neuwirth,” Bob Spitz wrote in “Dylan: A Biography” (1989). “So were the deadly put-downs, the wipeout grins and innuendos. Neuwirth had mastered those little twists long before Bob Dylan

made them famous and conveyed them to his best friend with altruistic grace.”

Mr. Neuwirth, Mr. Spitz suggested, could have ridden those same qualities to Dylanesque fame.

“Bobby Neuwirth was the Bob Most Likely to Succeed,” he wrote, “a wellspring of enormous potential. He possessed all the elements, except for one — nerve.”

Mr. Dylan, in his book “Chronicles: Volume One” (2004), had his own description of Mr. Neuwirth:

“Like Kerouac had immortalized Neal Cassady in ‘On the Road,’ somebody should have immortalized Neuwirth. He was that kind of character. He could talk to anybody until they felt like all their intelligence was gone. With his tongue, he ripped

and slashed and could make anybody uneasy, also could talk his way out of anything. Nobody knew what to make of him.”

Ms. Joplin, too, benefited from Mr. Neuwirth’s influence. Holly George-Warren, whose books include “Janis: Her Life and Music” (2019), said that Mr. Neuwirth and Ms. Joplin met in 1963 and became fast friends.

“In 1969, he taught her Kris Kristofferson’s ‘Me and Bobby McGee’ after he heard Gordon Lightfoot play the then-unknown song at manager Albert Grossman’s office,” Ms. George-Warren said by email. “He quickly learned it and took it to

Janis at the Chelsea Hotel.”

Her recording of the song hit No. 1 in 1971, but Ms. Joplin was not around to enjoy the success; she died of a drug overdose the previous year.

Mr. Neuwirth was also involved in “Mercedes Benz,” another well-known Joplin song that, like “Bobby McGee,” appeared on her 1971 album, “Pearl.” He was at a bar with her before a show she was doing at the Capitol Theater in Port Chester,

N.Y., in August 1970 when Ms. Joplin began riffing on a ditty that the poet Michael McClure would sing at gatherings with friends. Mr. Neuwirth began writing the lyrics the two of them came up with on a napkin.

She sang the song at the show that night, and she later recorded it a cappella. She, Mr. McClure and Mr. Neuwirth are jointly credited as the writers of the song, which on the album is less than two minutes long.

Ms. George-Warren said that this anecdote was revelatory: Mr. Neuwirth nudged along the careers of artists he admired, including Patti Smith, in whatever ways came to mind.

“Though Bob was renowned for his acerbic wit — from his days as aide-de-camp to Dylan and Janis — when I met him 25 years ago, he epitomized kindness, mentorship and curiosity,” she said. “That is the unsung story of Bob Neuwirth.”

Robert John Neuwirth was born on June 20, 1939, in Akron, Ohio. His father, also named Robert, was an engineer, and his mother, Clara Irene (Fischer) Neuwirth, was a design engineer.

He studied art at the School of the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston and dabbled in painting over the decades; in 2011 the Track 16 gallery in Santa Monica presented “Overs & Unders: Paintings by Bob Neuwirth, 1964-2009.”

After two years at art school, he spent time in Paris before returning to the Boston area, where he began performing in coffee houses, singing and playing banjo and guitar.

Mr. Neuwirth appeared in D.A. Pennebaker’s 1967 Dylan documentary, “Dont Look Back,” as well as in “Eat the Document,” a 1972 documentary of a later tour that was shot by Mr. Pennebaker and later edited by Mr. Dylan, who is credited as the

director. He was seen in Mr. Dylan’s film “Renaldo & Clara” (1978), most of which was filmed during the Rolling Thunder tour. And he appeared in “Rolling Thunder Revue: A Bob Dylan Story,” the 2019 Martin Scorsese film.

Mr. Neuwirth was a producer of “Down From the Mountain” (2000), a documentary, directed in part by Mr. Pennebaker, about a concert featuring the musical artists heard in the Coen Brothers’ movie “O Brother, Where Art Thou?”

“It’s all about the same to me,” he said, “whether it’s writing a song or making a painting or doing a film. It’s all just storytelling.”

He lived in Santa Monica. Ms. Batson is his only immediate survivor.

Mr. Neuwirth could be self-deprecating about his own musical efforts. He called his collaboration with Mr. Vitier, the Cuban pianist, “Cubilly music.” But his music was often serious. The Cale collaboration was a sort of song cycle that, as Jon

Pareles wrote in The New York Times when the two performed selections in concert in 1990, “added up to a shrug of the shoulders in the face of impending doom.”

“Instead of breast-beating or simply wisecracking,” Mr. Pareles wrote of the work, “it found an emotional territory somewhere between fatalism and denial — still uneasy but not quite resigned.”

I like a LOT of Bob N.

So sad the folk hero has left us...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0l6WvSs00o

Thanks for that song. I never followed Bob N. Love how the first lines set up the song: "Don't tell me 'bout no bottle that got busted / When I threw it at a mirror on the wall...."

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It has often been suggested that as Mr. Dylan assembled his distinctive persona while climbing to international fame, he borrowed some of it, including a certain attitude and a caustic streak, from Mr. Neuwirth.

“The whole hipster shuck and jive — that was pure Neuwirth,” Bob Spitz wrote in “Dylan: A Biography” (1989). “So were the deadly put-downs, the
wipeout grins and innuendos. Neuwirth had mastered those little twists
long before Bob Dylan made them famous and conveyed them to his
best friend with altruistic grace.”

This reminds me of this clip from "Don't Look Back" that K. miraculously found a couple of years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfcmillbcvw

Not sure if they are making fun of the music or really grooving to it, but Dylan points out a photo of Dovovan in the paper he is reading and says "Donovan.....next target," and Neuwirth says (I think) "He'll be our target for tomorrow." Not sure who is
leading whom here.

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On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 3:43:23 PM UTC-4, Willie wrote:

It has often been suggested that as Mr. Dylan assembled his distinctive persona while climbing to international fame, he borrowed some of it, including a certain attitude and a caustic streak, from Mr. Neuwirth.

“The whole hipster shuck and jive — that was pure Neuwirth,” Bob Spitz
wrote in “Dylan: A Biography” (1989). “So were the deadly put-downs, the
wipeout grins and innuendos. Neuwirth had mastered those little twists long before Bob Dylan made them famous and conveyed them to his
best friend with altruistic grace.”

This reminds me of this clip from "Don't Look Back" that K. miraculously found a couple of years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfcmillbcvw

Not sure if they are making fun of the music or really grooving to it, but Dylan points out a photo of Dovovan in the paper he is reading and says "Donovan.....next target," and Neuwirth says (I think) "He'll be our target for tomorrow." Not sure who

is leading whom here.

Actually, watching this again, I think Dylan says both "Donovan...next target" AND "He'll be our target for tomorrow," and Neuwirth just says, "Yeah."

I have actually never seen "Don't Look Back" (or if I did, it was so long ago that I've forgotten). Is there a lot of footage between Dylan and Neuwirth in it? And in "Eat the Document" (I'm fuzzy on that one too)?

I guess Neuwirth must have been a big influence on him, for Dylan to say "He could talk to anybody until they felt like all their intelligence was gone. With his tongue, he ripped and slashed and could make anybody uneasy, also could talk his way out of
anything. Nobody knew what to make of him.”

From that description, I was surprised to find what a pretty song "Busted Bottle" was. It does have its lyrical tension, but it's basically a very pretty song.

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On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 3:43:23 PM UTC-4, Willie wrote:

It has often been suggested that as Mr. Dylan assembled his distinctive persona while climbing to international fame, he borrowed some of it, including a certain attitude and a caustic streak, from Mr. Neuwirth.

“The whole hipster shuck and jive — that was pure Neuwirth,” Bob Spitz
wrote in “Dylan: A Biography” (1989). “So were the deadly put-downs, the
wipeout grins and innuendos. Neuwirth had mastered those little twists long before Bob Dylan made them famous and conveyed them to his
best friend with altruistic grace.”

This reminds me of this clip from "Don't Look Back" that K. miraculously found a couple of years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfcmillbcvw

Not sure if they are making fun of the music or really grooving to it, but Dylan points out a photo of Dovovan in the paper he is reading and says "Donovan.....next target," and Neuwirth says (I think) "He'll be our target for tomorrow." Not sure who

is leading whom here.

I felt Bob N. was rather cruel in his comments about Joan B. in DON'T LOOK BACK....

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