• Engine needed

    From Futility Man@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 23 22:45:24 2018
    This is a long shot but I need an engine.

    I need an engine for a 2009-2012 Kawasaki 750 Teryx side by side ATV. A 2008 will not work, it's a carb model and I need fuel injected. A 2013 will not work,
    it's an 800. 750 engines from other Kawasaki ATVs or motorcycles will not work.

    I will pay cash for a reasonable deal, I'll pick it up if it's a reasonable distance from me. I am in East Tennessee.

    I know about the Ebay rebuilt engines for $3,000. That is not an option I am willing to pursue.

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  • From Mark Olson@21:1/5 to Futility Man on Tue Jul 24 10:35:48 2018
    Futility Man <null@futile.org> wrote:
    This is a long shot but I need an engine.

    I need an engine for a 2009-2012 Kawasaki 750 Teryx side by side ATV. A 2008 will not work, it's a carb model and I need fuel injected. A 2013 will not work,
    it's an 800. 750 engines from other Kawasaki ATVs or motorcycles will not work.

    I will pay cash for a reasonable deal, I'll pick it up if it's a reasonable distance from me. I am in East Tennessee.

    I know about the Ebay rebuilt engines for $3,000. That is not an option I am willing to pursue.

    Sounds like yours isn't rebuildable...

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  • From Futility Man@21:1/5 to Mark Olson on Tue Jul 24 10:52:07 2018
    On 24 Jul 2018 10:35:48 GMT, Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:

    Sounds like yours isn't rebuildable...

    It's rebuildable, but the shop I was talking to told me it wasn't cost effective. I've found another shop that gave more hope but until we start ordering parts, I'm still looking for an engine.

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  • From Mark Olson@21:1/5 to Futility Man on Tue Jul 24 17:21:11 2018
    Futility Man <null@futile.org> wrote:
    On 24 Jul 2018 10:35:48 GMT, Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:

    Sounds like yours isn't rebuildable...

    It's rebuildable, but the shop I was talking to told me it wasn't cost effective. I've found another shop that gave more hope but until we start ordering parts, I'm still looking for an engine.

    I'm with you. I think a used factory engine is almost always better
    than a rebuilt, unless the rebuild was done by a very skilled machine
    shop. And unless the engine happens to be a rare one, the used route
    is frequently cheaper, too.

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  • From Futility Man@21:1/5 to Mark Olson on Wed Jul 25 18:12:45 2018
    On 24 Jul 2018 17:21:11 GMT, Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:

    I'm with you. I think a used factory engine is almost always better
    than a rebuilt, unless the rebuild was done by a very skilled machine
    shop. And unless the engine happens to be a rare one, the used route
    is frequently cheaper, too.

    Apparently these engines developed bottom end problems if run hard with low oil.
    I've found a full rebuild kit with crank, rods, pistons and all the trimmings for a little over $900 and I have a nephew like McGuyver who has offered his help and his machine shop, so unless a new motor falls out of the sky before next week, that's where we're going.

    Someone sent me a link to a motor that had been pulled from a Brute Force, which
    is not a direct swap and the description said it had been pulled in great shape so a drag race engine could be installed. Uh, no. A dollar to a donut says this one had been hammered too. Not taking a chance on that.

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  • From Mark Olson@21:1/5 to Futility Man on Wed Jul 25 23:53:40 2018
    Futility Man <null@futile.org> wrote:
    On 24 Jul 2018 17:21:11 GMT, Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:

    I'm with you. I think a used factory engine is almost always better
    than a rebuilt, unless the rebuild was done by a very skilled machine
    shop. And unless the engine happens to be a rare one, the used route
    is frequently cheaper, too.

    Apparently these engines developed bottom end problems if run hard with low oil.
    I've found a full rebuild kit with crank, rods, pistons and all the trimmings for a little over $900 and I have a nephew like McGuyver who has offered his help and his machine shop, so unless a new motor falls out of the sky before next week, that's where we're going.

    Someone sent me a link to a motor that had been pulled from a Brute Force, which
    is not a direct swap and the description said it had been pulled in great shape
    so a drag race engine could be installed. Uh, no. A dollar to a donut says this one had been hammered too. Not taking a chance on that.

    When you add in the value of your labor, it's probably not the
    cheapest way to go, but at least you'll have a solidly built unit
    that you don't have to worry about having been thrashed mercilessly
    like the Brute Force motor probably was.

    When I had the cylinder head rebuilt[1] done on my wife's EX250 engine,
    I was surprised to find I had spent quite a bit more than I thought
    I was going to when all the miscellaneous bits were added up.

    It was almost enough to have bought a complete low miles replacement
    engine. But I know this one was done right, had really good compression
    (I broke it in like I stole it) and now it's still nice and strong
    a few thousand miles later, so I'm happy.

    [1] I also had the bores honed by the machine shop and I installed
    new rings.

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  • From The Older Gentleman@21:1/5 to Mark Olson on Thu Jul 26 07:16:02 2018
    Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:

    When you add in the value of your labor, it's probably not the
    cheapest way to go, but at least you'll have a solidly built unit
    that you don't have to worry about having been thrashed mercilessly
    like the Brute Force motor probably was.

    The danger with pulling apart an engine that has *known* failures is
    that you invariably find several more (expensive) *unknown* ones.

    I sell a lot of used engines, and the deal is always this:

    "It's here, in the chassis, running. You can come and hear and see it
    run, and if you don't like what you see and hear, you don't need to hand
    over a penny. Oh, and if you do want it, you can help me get it out of
    the chassis."

    I've not had a single one turned down, not in seven or eight years. Not
    one.


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