Looking for references / instructions for converting Italeri kit 291 (M110A2) to Viet Nam
era M110.
Thanks!
Doug
On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 4:13:30 PM UTC-5, Doug wrote:box.
Looking for references / instructions for converting Italeri kit 291 (M110A2) to Viet Nam
era M110.
Thanks!
Doug
I believe it is as simple as using the shorter barrel. Italeri did several versions of the M110, M110A1 and M110A2 that were barrel sprue swaps. They also did a German version that included different tracks and some German add ons, but was in a Revell
Thanks Rob,box.
The kit I have has only the one barrel - OA length is ~9.1 in., excluding the breech.
Would be easy enough to cut the existing barrel to the correct length and insert a section
of tube at the end as the original plastic tube wall thickness is likely too thin. Would
be more economical than purchasing another kit although may not be exactly correct.
RobG <> wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 4:13:30 PM UTC-5, Doug wrote:
Looking for references / instructions for converting Italeri kit 291 (M110A2) to Viet Nam
era M110.
Thanks!
Doug
I believe it is as simple as using the shorter barrel. Italeri did several versions of the M110, M110A1 and M110A2 that were barrel sprue swaps. They also did a German version that included different tracks and some German add ons, but was in a Revell
On Thursday, December 22, 2016 at 8:41:14 PM UTC-5, Doug wrote:Revell box.
Thanks Rob,
The kit I have has only the one barrel - OA length is ~9.1 in., excluding the breech.
Would be easy enough to cut the existing barrel to the correct length and insert a section
of tube at the end as the original plastic tube wall thickness is likely too thin. Would
be more economical than purchasing another kit although may not be exactly correct.
RobG <> wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 4:13:30 PM UTC-5, Doug wrote:
Looking for references / instructions for converting Italeri kit 291 (M110A2) to Viet Nam
era M110.
Thanks!
Doug
I believe it is as simple as using the shorter barrel. Italeri did several versions of the M110, M110A1 and M110A2 that were barrel sprue swaps. They also did a German version that included different tracks and some German add ons, but was in a
Once upon a time, Verlinden did a resin conversion set #423 to make the old M107 or short barreled M110 into a modern M110A1 or M110A2. Any artilleryman using the Verlinden set said that it included the barrel for the M110. I know barrel depot did aturned metal tube, not sure if it is still available.
This site might help you in your project: http://www.modelersite.com/en/1696/italeri-m110--1-35-scale
Testors was the version I built. It included a photo of the built kit and was a straight M110, kit #795 and had a name on the tube BLOOD, SWEAT & TEARS in yellow stencil.
This thread states that what Italeri tries to sell as their M110A1 is in fact, the Testors M110 A-nothing.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/47209/thread/1430057655/What+is+the+difference+between+the+M110+and+M110A1-
There are reports that M107 175mm self propelled gun wearing out their tubes in Vietnam and replacement 8" tubes being brought in by heavy helicopters basically turning them into M110 self propelled howitzers. The 107s went out of service before theM110 series.
The kits are all virtually identical except for the gun tube and the decals. What Italeri tries to pass off as the M110A1 is just an M110. The M110A1 had a longer tube but with a flared end of the tube. But much like the M107 to M110, the M110 easilybecame an M110A1 or M110A2 with a change of gun tube.
If you can guessimate the length of the M110 barrel, just getting a piece of brass or styrene rod the right size and you'd be in business. It is hard to find photos of the actual vehicle since a tube swap upgraded them.
Will cut the barrel and use styrene to fill the end of the barrel. Not having a lathe
will forgo trying to create the OD flare at the end of the tube.
While I prefer accuracy - try not to be too anal about details. Although this build will
be a gift to a good friend that crewed an M110 early in Nam - so he would most likely and
very quickly note any discrepancies.
Thanks again!
On Saturday, December 24, 2016 at 12:17:17 PM UTC-5, Doug wrote:years.
Will cut the barrel and use styrene to fill the end of the barrel. Not having a lathe
will forgo trying to create the OD flare at the end of the tube.
While I prefer accuracy - try not to be too anal about details. Although this build will
be a gift to a good friend that crewed an M110 early in Nam - so he would most likely and
very quickly note any discrepancies.
Thanks again!
Are you sure he'd note discrepancies? I've served on several tanks throughout my career and I doubt I would be able to note anything other than if someone tried to pass off one version for another. And that's only going back the past 30 years, not 50
My comment was based mostly on respect for my good friend and that he is very detail
oriented. However, as you note, identifying discrepancies of any kind other than those of
a gross overall nature may be unlikely. Will advise any comments he shares after
receiving the model - which is going to be a while.
Tank crew member - that is special! Not having the benefit of that experience or anything
similar - how loud is it in the turret when a round is fired? Is hearing protection
required?
Thank you again Rob - very much appreciate you sharing the benefit of your experiences.
RobG <> wrote:
On Saturday, December 24, 2016 at 12:17:17 PM UTC-5, Doug wrote:
Will cut the barrel and use styrene to fill the end of the barrel. Not having a lathe
will forgo trying to create the OD flare at the end of the tube.
While I prefer accuracy - try not to be too anal about details. Although this build will
be a gift to a good friend that crewed an M110 early in Nam - so he would most likely and
very quickly note any discrepancies.
Thanks again!
Tank crew member - that is special! Not having the benefit of that experience or anything
similar - how loud is it in the turret when a round is fired? Is hearing protection
required?
On Sunday, December 25, 2016 at 11:53:44 AM UTC-5, Doug wrote:ear plugs should be worn but weren't because you need to be able to hear other crewmen and the radio. Yes, I am a little hard of hearing.
Tank crew member - that is special! Not having the benefit of that experience or anything
similar - how loud is it in the turret when a round is fired? Is hearing protection
required?
Yes, tanks are very loud. We wore combat vehicle crewman helmets (CVC) which have a fiberglass shell and a headset that allow radio and intercom communication. Itchy and uncomfortable and tighter than wearing a football helmet. When firing, additional
The 120mm cannon of the Abrams is very loud, much more so than the 105 of the M48A5 or M60A3, but those are still loud as well. If you don't have some hearing protection on, either the CVC helmet or ear plugs, your ears will be ringing after the firstshot. Even the machine guns are loud enough to require hearing protection. Additionally, the turbine whine of the Abrams is enough to cause hearing loss. It's an occupational hazard generations of tankers have suffered through.
Thanks Rob - appreciate you sharing your experiences.
Did you see the movie 'Fury'? If so - how accurate were the tank operations and
interactions portrayed? Understand those interactions took place decades ago with older
technology - whereas current tactics would be significantly different.
Was surprised to read after seeing the movie the battle between the Tiger and Sherman used
the last operational Tiger I tank - and was not animated. That is true dedication to
detail!
On Monday, December 26, 2016 at 12:02:50 PM UTC-5, Doug wrote:
Thanks Rob - appreciate you sharing your experiences.ons and
Did you see the movie 'Fury'? If so - how accurate were the tank
operati
interactions portrayed? Understand those interactions took placeago with older
decades
technology - whereas current tactics would be significantly different.and Sherman used
Was surprised to read after seeing the movie the battle between the
Tiger
the last operational Tiger I tank - and was not animated. That is trueedication to
d
detail!
My brother in law asked the same thing about crew interaction. On a
tank, there is still rank as in any unit. The senior person is the tank commander, usually an officer, sergeant first class or staff sergeant.
The gunner is normally a sergeant, the driver a specialist and the
loader a private of some type. Rank is rank and there are crew commands
and responses drilled into armor crewmen that become as automatic as breathing. Grabbing a clerk to stick in the bow gunner spot is odd, but
it would be the least critical position. All he needs to do is shoot a machine gun and mess with the radios.
Of course, their tank battles are much closer than modern day gun
fights. Our "battle sight" is set at 1200m with many engagements
beginning at 3000m (roughly 2 miles).
I also thought the guy freezing instead of firing the gun at the
dismounted troops was odd. Especially with tanks, shooting at fleeting dismounted shapes should come naturally. I also thought the execution of
the German POW was odd.
Looking for references / instructions for converting Italeri kit 291 (M110A2) to Viet Nam
era M110.
Thanks!
Doug
Looking for references / instructions for converting Italeri kit 291 (M110A2) to Viet Nam
era M110.
Thanks!
Doug
On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:13:30 PM UTC-6, Doug wrote:
Looking for references / instructions for converting Italeri kit 291 (M110A2) to Viet Nam
era M110.
Thanks!
Doug
I should have read the replies. 71 inches for barrel length. I'm fortunate to have access to the original M110.
On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 4:36:48 PM UTC-4, scout6...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:13:30 PM UTC-6, Doug wrote:
Looking for references / instructions for converting Italeri kit 291 (M110A2) to Viet Nam
era M110.
Thanks!
Doug
I should have read the replies. 71 inches for barrel length. I'm fortunate to have access to the original M110.
Yeah, we were having this discussion 8 months ago. One of the few real modeling related threads in quite some time. Even Cookie stopped posting his armor reviews of preview kits.
On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 11:12:51 AM UTC-5, RobG wrote:
On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 4:36:48 PM UTC-4, scout6...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:13:30 PM UTC-6, Doug wrote:
Looking for references / instructions for converting Italeri kit 291 (M110A2) to Viet Nam
era M110.
Thanks!
Doug
I should have read the replies. 71 inches for barrel length. I'm fortunate to have access to the original M110.
Yeah, we were having this discussion 8 months ago. One of the few real modeling related threads in quite some time. Even Cookie stopped posting his armor reviews of preview kits.
Thank God. Fairly worthless. As proof I point to his Academy M551 review, in which he gave it great marks. Then after Pawel ripped it, he did a complete reversal on the Gulf War release.
Looking for references / instructions for converting Italeri kit 291 (M110A2) to Viet NamTo really do it justice there's a lot more involved, especially with the middle portion between the barrel and the breech. A quick look at photos will show what I mean. You could just cut off the barrel, but you'll still need to put a slight flare on it.
era M110.
Thanks!
Doug
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